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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    i've been taking it for about 3-4 months or so now and my hair is still falling out. switched from fin thinking it was gonna be better but i'm still shedding just as much as i was.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's supposed to be normal as it's pushing out weak hairs for the stronger ones to come in, although 4 months seems a bit long but maybe not. I'd give it 6 months to be sure.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's supposed to be normal as it's pushing out weak hairs for the stronger ones to come in, although 4 months seems a bit long but maybe not. I'd give it 6 months to be sure.

      i’ve been on fin 5 years and dut 10 months, dut has ruined my hairline. my test is now outside upper end of the reference range

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        DHT causes way more balding, it isn't your elevated T levels from blocking 5ar bud.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao you fricking moron

      did you switch from fin to dut just like that without tapering off? they have 2 different mechanisms so all the shit you stopped with fin is now being reversed and you lost ground

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        dut does the same thing as fin ALONG with blocking type 2. there's no reason to taper off of fin. the only thing that would do is make your hair start falling out faster because it's no longer doing it's job. why the frick would you taper off? think about it scientifically for one fricking second and you'll realize how moronic you are

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          fin blocks type 2, dut blocks 5ar type 1 additionally, but type 1 has no effect on hair follicles. they're both pretty much the same thing as far as hair is concerned, but dut has much longer half life and can be taken less frequently

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fin blocks up to 40% of DHT at your hair follicles while dut blocks anywhere from 50-80%. It can’t bring back nearly dead hair follicles (nothing short of estrogen can) but it will regrow everything else.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Fin blocks up to 40% of DHT at your hair follicles while dut blocks anywhere from 50-80%
              it's about 40% for fin and 50% for dut. I think 80% was for subcutaneous dut injections
              > It can’t bring back nearly dead hair follicles (nothing short of estrogen can) but it will regrow everything else.
              I remember seeing come conclusions that estrogen is actually pretty shit for regrowth, or even hairloss protection. did some quick search and it's e.g. even worse than 2% minox here. https://dpcj.org/index.php/dpc/article/view/dermatol-pract-concept-articleid-dp1002a39

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                80% was for 2.5mg dut.
                Im

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                really wonder why places don't perscribe 2-5mg dutasteride with how effective it is versus the typical 0.5mg

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it better OP?
    I’ll change if you convince me

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The clinical trial showed better hair regrowth than finasteride (which isn't unreasonable as it's better at blocking DHT). But then dutasteride went off-patent so no one bothered getting FDA approval for it for hairloss

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        it doesn't lol, unless you're taking for prostate only. they both have a similar effect on hair. it only reduces scalp DHT by half, just like finasteride, despite completely nuking it systemically. 5ar type 1 has no effect on hair

        only because of much higher serum concentrations due to much longer half life of dutasteride

        >*brutally mogrifies your testicles into raisins*

        5ar inhibition actually increases testosterone, moron

        Why is it better OP?
        I’ll change if you convince me

        doesn't really matter, but both work much better when applied topically. finasteride has to be used daily, dutasteride can be applied once a week, but microneedling is required

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off Derek

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            seriously, roidtroonying aside, this guy has probably the best hairloss content on the internet, better than 99.99% of actual doctors. Haircafe is also decent, but he's a gigavaxxed vegan liberal luntatic with orange man bad derangement syndrome.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              All hair advice in 2023 basically boils down to taking troony drugs to stop your hairloss. That's what derek is on, Finasteride, a troony drug.

              Really, this is all just a symptom of people trying to cling to their youth because Industrial Society interrupts the power process so people never feel like they're ready to move from adolescence to adulthood. Otherwise hair loss wouldn't be viewed as this extremely bad thing and would just be accepted as the natural evolution of life.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Julius Caeser cared about hair loss.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Rome was the most population dense place of the time, Caesar was likely suffering from proto-oversocialization. We know he had self-esteem issues when he famously compared himself to Alexander and was discouraged by the idea of not having accomplished as much at his age (feelings of inferiority)

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I still have enough libido to jack off three times a day on fin. if you can't handle it maybe you were never meant to have hair

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you're jacking off 3 times a day you have worse issues than hair loss...

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I can't be low test because I'm a porn addict
                lmao

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                roidtroonys and homosexuals will deny this, modern men are completly feminized and broken

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's sad
                But many such cases...
                It's crazy what industrial society will do to a mfer

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'd understand taking this in your 20s, maybe early 30s but 35+ and clinging to hair is just sad, you need those hormones as you grow older and for what? You should have a family at that age already.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have a family and trest my hair loss.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you need those hormones as you grow older
                for what, enlarged prostate? also, blocking DHT in the serum just to limit it in the scalp is really stupid

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                A lot of people are studying well in to their 30s now, it isn't the 1900s where people were established between 18 and 20 anymore and women have more choice other than just the 5 guys who live on their street now we have a globalised world.

                I don't get this weird argument about starting a family meaning time to let yourself look like shit and there is 0 chance you'll ever be in the dating market again with sky high divorce rates

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >All hair advice in 2023 basically boils down to taking troony drugs to stop your hairloss. That's what derek is on, Finasteride, a troony drug.
                finasteride is literally the opposite of troony drug as it increases natural test. oral 5ar inhibitors are one of the least effective treatments at that as the DHT reduction in the scalp caps at about 50% even with dut and you can achieve much more than that with using them topically with barely any systemic effect. not to mention topical anti-androgens, which block any androgen from attaching to hair follicles, not just DHT

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >finasteride is literally the opposite of troony drug as it increases natural test
                lol, testosterone is less androgenic than DHT and you will have less free testosterone because DHT suppresses SHBG

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >testosterone is less androgenic than DHT
                it only matters during puberty, after that it only causes balding and prostate hyperplasia. DHT is useless for important male characteristics, like muscle, anyway. people with a genetic defects, without 5ar, were much more muscular than their twins and even blocking DHT completely leads to more, not less, muscle mass
                >you will have less free testosterone because DHT suppresses SHBG
                lol it's the other way around
                it's all pointless, because, as I mentioned, blocking DHT in the serum, instead of a targeted application of 5ar inhibitors, or anti-androgen, is moronic anyway, which you conveniently ignored

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >yeah bro just let your hair fall out at 25 so you can look 40 at 30. That way you can focus on being a man and working hard for mr rubenstein’s company!!

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no you don't get it!!! your ENTIRE value as a person is your hair, so buy my guide right now to find out how to keep your hair and stay relevant!

                shut the frick up, freak

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                No one is selling a guide on how to put a tablet in your mouth and hair is consistently voted by women the single most important aesthetic feature of a man and people make subconscious decisions about a man based on his hair or lack of. Attempts to downplay the importance of hair are bald cope and they'd apply this shitty logic to anything.

                It's only acne who cares
                It's only rashes who cares
                It's only dry flaky skin who cares
                It's just your teeth bro most food is liquid now
                Your eyebrows? Not needed just lift weights

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                holy shit you are literally a female brained wimp.
                just troon out now and save everyone the trouble.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >5ar inhibition actually increases testosterone, moron

          Temporarily. But the risk is precisely that. If you have an excess of testosterone it might aromatize into estrogen.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's a risk of having high testosterone in general, nothing specific to 5ar inhibitors, and easily remediable with low doses of SERMs or AIs

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >it's a risk of having high testosterone in general, nothing specific to 5ar inhibitors
              but 5ar reduced steroids are AI's

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't dutasteride molecule too big to be absorbed topically?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            that's why you need to microneedle beforhand. it's similar size to ketoconazole, which still gets absorbed to some extent, you just need to rub it in for a few minutes

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also riskier though.

      Way stronger. Also, Dutasteride blocks type 1 and type 2 5α-reductase inhibitors. Fin only blocks type 2.

      There is some inconclusive research suggesting type 1 is more important for stuff like neurosteroids.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >*brutally mogrifies your testicles into raisins*

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will my hairline regrow if take this or will it just prevent my hair from retreating further?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      depends, most people it just stops hairloss and you need minoxidil to regain hair, some people actually do regain hair from it

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      depends. some people experience some regrowth, some don't. optimally you also need also some growth stimulant, minoxidil, microneedling, stemoxodine. just have in mind that taking your systemic DHT to basically 0, while reducing it only by 50% in the scalp isn't the most effective way to go about hairloss.

      Finasteride permanently fricked up my dick and balls. And so there's no way I'm getting on this shit because it's basically Finasteride on steroids.

      >There's 0 scientific research supporting that, crazy moron.

      I don't give a frick.

      it can give you ED if you are already low test and DHT is the only thing keeping everything running, but the half life of finasteride and all of its substrate is like 48h tops. the side effect rates were often higher in the placebo group

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it can give you ED if you are already low test and DHT is the only thing keeping everything running, but the half life of finasteride and all of its substrate is like 48h tops. the side effect rates were often higher in the placebo group
        It can be because of so many different reasons from imbalance of type of 5a reductase to aromatisation to body just not liking crash of DHT

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finasteride permanently fricked up my dick and balls. And so there's no way I'm getting on this shit because it's basically Finasteride on steroids.

    >There's 0 scientific research supporting that, crazy moron.

    I don't give a frick.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >permanently
      this homosexual nocebo'd his dick to death

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It could also be low testo or high cholesterol in his case. For the latter he should get on a statin and cialis which unclots your penis blood vessels.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop lying, baldcel. Fin doesn’t have any lasting effects because it has a half life of 6 hours and a very well understood mechanism of action. Fin saves lives.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nonsense. A bullet through the brain has a 0.001s half life and permanent death as a side effect.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          > permanent death as a side effect
          Source?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          The moe for a bullet is death though so not a side effect.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being a hairlet and having to chemically castrate yourself hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also Hairlets will never know the superhero feeling of being on Masteron or Primo.

      Only a baldcel in denial would enter a thread like this. Post hairline.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but that doesn't even make sense.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's because it's a common baldy cope.
          They can't stand the fact that there are people with hair who are mocking them for taking troony meds in a vain attempt to pass as normal.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's because it's a common baldy cope.
          They can't stand the fact that there are people with hair who are mocking them for taking troony meds in a vain attempt to pass as normal.

          A non-balding person wouldn't even know what fin/dut are.

          POST HAIRLINE

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Literally this, most fricking bald people don't even know fin/dut let alone people with hair.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's literally the opposite of it, retad. you're avoid wasting testosterone to 5ar

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also Hairlets will never know the superhero feeling of being on Masteron or Primo.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tried it for a while but went back to finasteride cause for the first time I felt like my dick became slightly desensitized, could have been a ton of other factors, even nocebo but the moment I went back to fin it went away.
    Since fin works fine and I got a norwood 0 hairline at 29 I can't complain. To whoever might be reading this, def give dutasteride a shot if finasteride didn't work for you

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    So my balls are swollen and it's been painful ever since I started taking Finasteride. What do?

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    dut gave me insomnia so i went back on fin after 2 months. i want to try it again if fin stops working as much

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything has side effects. My bald head isn't that bad.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like my dad hairline. I scare the frick out of zoomzooms.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it over for me? Can finasteride fix this? 🙁

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just a cowlick.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        nah it's a very visible and worsening bald spot/thinning hair. here's a view from the top

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just shave it bro and pick up some weights while you're at it

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Believe it or not I do lift kek but I climb a lot as well so I've got more of a otter/twunk thing going on and I think shaving my head would make me look mega gay

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've had absolutely zero results from Fin, switched to dut a couple months ago, also no results. I use minoxidil, also no results.
    My hair has been slowly diffuse thinning for like 10 years and nothing seems to help. Any hair pros to help me?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      whats your dosage? for fin and dut? might need to up it
      also
      it's androgenic alopecia
      so all androgens not just dht
      you might try out ru58841 (just dont apply it in the evening)
      or you might need a combination of 4 different things

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The normal dosage, previously 1mg fin and now 0.5 dut. I suspect I may not have androgenic alopecia but something else that's unrelated to DHT. I already tried taking vitamins, like 50mg zinc per day, vitamin d, etc, nothing seems to change much.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          could be but then its usually diffrent pattern like diffuse thinning or patches
          or you might be overly sensitive to testo binding and you need to block the receptors with something like ru

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rosemary oil + microneedling. scalp massage to increase blood flow. abstaining from masturbation and too much sex. not being sedentary.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >want to grow your hair back?
        >stab yourself in the head, dont jerk off, go for a walk

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >scalp massage to increase blood flow
        >abstaining from masturbation and too much sex. not being sedentary.
        lmao. blood flow or the other shit has no effect on male pattern balding whatsoever. it's caused by DHT

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          And guess what massively increases the conversion of testosterone to DHT? Masturbation...

          You can't see the forest for the trees. You can't smell your own shit on your knees.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And guess what massively increases the conversion of testosterone to DHT? Masturbation...
            it doesn't. all the flactuation are so small, they're basically negligible. it's also funny how you cherrypicked a single thing out of all the other bullshit you claimed

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I've had absolutely zero results from Fin, switched to dut a couple months ago, also no results
      use it topically. also RU58841.
      >I use minoxidil, also no results.
      get oral minox. if not, tretonoin or/and microneedling

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    i put DHT gel on my wiener and im balding haha

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love being a handsome bald man. I never have to worry about any of your troony pills. I don't even pay for haircuts. Keep coping, hairgays. There's no gym for your face.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      i feel the same way man, im visibly balding but im handsome and have a good skull shape, i used to take fin but realized i waited too long so now i dont even worry about it, feels good

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >handsome bald man
      >Keep coping
      lmao, the only one coping is you
      >troony pills
      and you're moronic at that, as they're literally the opposite lmao
      and I don't even have hair nor do I take finasteride pills. all the cope and delusion was just too hilarious to not respond, so have a (You)

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      How did she managed to get a good quality uncompressed unproccessed lookimg pic with am iphone ?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't even pay for haircuts

      homie you can't go out the house without shaving your head don't pretend that isn't an inconvenience as opposed to the occasional hair cut

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's over. Norwood IV?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just a mature hairline. You're fine.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        just let it grow bro, totally normal

        >tfw not sure whether you're taking the piss or I did a very poor job at taking a pic portraying just how bad my hairline is

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's all in your head, man, literally. all the hair is in your head

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      just let it grow bro, totally normal

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're good bro, you have a teenagers hairline.

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am taking spironolactone. It competes with DHT so less DHT binds to hair folicles.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I really hope you're taking it topically, otherwise you're basically lowkey trooning out. there are much better antiandrogens too

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spiro has weak binding affinity, plus it's a diuretic.

        What do you suggest, smart asses? It's stronger than dut. And i'm doing orally.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's stronger than dut
          it isn't and it uses a completely different mechanism than 5ar inhibition
          >What do you suggest, smart asses?
          finasteride if you really insist on oral application. otherwise a strong topical antiandrogen, like ru58841 or pyrilutamide. optionally, you can also apply fin or dut topically. if your hairloss has progressed already, you should also add minox (oral is better in this case). who the frick told you to take spironolactone btw? they only get balding women on it due to it killing test

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ru58841
            Don't do this unless you like heart failure.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dude, trannies literally take this drug specifically to grow proto-breasts. drop your fake and gay superior attitude, or nevermind, keep it. you'll learn soon enough, lol.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spiro has weak binding affinity, plus it's a diuretic.

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fin 1mg and min 1.25mg is all you need. Anything more you should just shave bro

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >more 5ar2 inhibiton which is good
    >more 5ar1 inhibition which is a mixed bag
    I’m staying on fin only for now.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    1.25mg Fin daily
    Dutasteride mesotherapy monthly
    Monixidil 5% nightly 6x/week
    Tretinoin 0.25% nightly 6x/week
    Microneedling 1.5mm 1x/week
    Caffeine shampoo.

    Probably close to the perfect stack.

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I'm on a 5AR inhibitor, will the hair I am able to grow back using minoxidil require me to continue using minoxidil, or will it stay even if I stop using minoxidil since I'm on a 5AR inhibitor?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Min and Fin have to different mechanisms of action. Whatever gains you've made on Min, must be maintained with Min. Whatever gains you've made with Fin, must be maintained with Fin.

  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    2 out of every 3 posters coming into these threads to mock hairlets will be meeting the norwood reaper too

    >B-BUT MY MOM AND DAD AND GRANDPA/GRANDMA ALL HAVE FULL HE-
    all it takes is one distant relative.
    tick. tock.

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