Can someone explain to me why people from here dominate the weightlifting and wrestling sports?
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Can someone explain to me why people from here dominate the weightlifting and wrestling sports?
No gays so they can wrestle a dude for 8 hours a day and not feel weird about it.
Drugs
All top level athletes are on something. This entire region over-performs in weightlifting and wrestling. Isn't it worth looking at? I mean, enough Africans and Jamaicans ran fast enough for us to look into why they were so good at it.
What's happening in the Caucasus and Iran to create these weightlifting and wrestling champions?
It's harder to test there vs west, where testing is more stringent. Local federations protect athletes, countries track drug testers using visas
Makes sense but it's happening across multiple countries. I'm sure it's harder to test in South America too, but you don't see South Americans dominating anything outside soccer.
They don't have know how. Ex soviet/eastern countries have know how
It's 10x harder to do drugs in most western countries because of stringent random drug tests. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, just much much harder
venezula and colombia are getting gold medals in weightlifting in lower weight classes.
>What's happening in the Caucasus and Iran to create these weightlifting and wrestling champions?
These places maintained the Aryan spirit whereas Europe gave it up
other lands aren't worth talking about.
everyone is on drugs bro, this isn't the reason
it's because those sports are just more popular there, simple as
same reason america is the best at basketball, it's because nobody else gives a shit about it.
>it's because those sports are just more popular there, simple as
I wonder if it's really as simple as that.
yeah it seems like there's always some random area that dominates at a given event and it changes over time. it's not JUST popularity but other factors, drugs, poverty (boxing for instance has always been whatever group is poorest in america at the time)
>same reason america is the best at basketball
*Germany, chud.
>whites coping
kek, THE OTHERS ARE CHEATING
>strongman
WHITES ARE JUST SUPERIOR
Shorter, stockier, better leverages
Individual sports vs Team sports
These countries suck at team sports but excel in individual sports. See chess as well
Most interesting post. Why is that?
too high test to cooperate
not a thing
don't make bad posts in the future
Kek
But on a serious note it seems that one of testosterone properties is that it INCREASES cooperation
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26124701/
Testosterone is associated with cooperation during intergroup competition by enhancing parochial altruism
>In sum, the present data demonstrate that the behavioral effects of testosterone are not limited to aggressive and selfish tendencies but may imply prosocial aspects depending on the context. By this means, our results support the previously reported findings on testosterone-dependent intergroup bias and indicate that this social hormone might be an important factor driving parochial altruism.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229062238_New_Evidence_on_Testosterone_and_Cooperation_Reply
The best explanation I've seen is that testosterone makes challenges seem fun. Obviously that can lead to a lot of status jockeying in lieu of an extended challenge, but for things like hunts and wars, the challenge is external and teamwork prevails.
Original Aryan genetics
Do you guys honestly think these countries drug test people as stringently as others?
Wrestling is so fricking gay.
>THEY CAN'T BE BETTER THAN US, THEY MUST BE CHEATING MORE THAN WE DO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>No dude, whites are the strongest, look up the winners of strongman competitions
Irano-Caucasus peoples are white.
kek tell that /misc/gays. And also this board. I don't care about being called white or not. My skin is light. Also not gonna define myself over that.
There's an old tradition of strength and conditioning called varzesh-e-bāstāni, or zurkhaneh, where they swing giant clubs and other unstable levers. This simulates the unstable weights you deal with when wrestling. Other cultures that do lever based strength training as part of a historical tradition (Russians and kettlebells, Indians and maces) tend to do well in weightlifting and wrestling for their weight classes, but these guys do it the most
You'll note that a lot of people use Bulgarian bags as wrestling and grappling assist, because it simulates a flip or throw. A near side shield cast with a meel is like that, but with a bigger lever arm and one handed.
Tldr. Better training modalities ingrained into the cultural tradition
Achievable natty?
Wow, what a beast
certainly with enough extra helpings of rice and kabob
https://youtube.com/shorts/ivwRmMMHP6M?feature=shared is a good example of what a decently conditioned person can do. Those clubs are 16kg/35lb each, but at the end of a meter long lever. It's humbling.
>Indians and maces) tend to do well in weightlifting and wrestling for their weight classes
no
What?
Great Gama?
drugs and shallow hip sockets ?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5068300/
>Testosterone causes both prosocial and antisocial status-enhancing behaviors in human males
The entire premise of "sports" are high test males cooperating at a high level
Iran seems such a cool country to visit, really central Asia and Caucasus seem amazing throughout.
>state sponsored doping
>wada not allowed to enter or test
>just blast all year round and chill
same china same russia, same in uae middle east shit
already solved
sports are memes
Judy here is right
It is cultural, for example in Dagestan were Khabib comes from everybody wrestles freestyle. I live in the EU, i ve only met one (1) wrestler in real life outside of the Gym.
Genes just like everything else.
An area with some of the hairiest, high dht people. Comparable phenotypes in Europe also perform. I would say genetics + culture.