can someone explain to me why seed oils=bad. >inb4 its heavily processed

can someone explain to me why seed oils=bad
>inb4 it’s heavily processed
what exactly about it being processed makes it bad? Like what happens inside your body when you digest canola or vegetable oil as compared to something like olive or avocado oil (what I normally use)

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's mom science, they see a perfectly safe chemical process and it freaks them out because they're midwits.

    • 4 weeks ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      Read a book retard

      • 4 weeks ago
        SwedishBrorsan

        I'm trans btw, if that matters

        • 4 weeks ago
          SwedishBrorsan

          im sure youll be trans one day too

          Canola is marketed as "OmEgA9" with a profile looking more like olive oil

          > increases LDL (bad) cholesterol level
          > Development of heart disease, some cancers
          > Depletes Vitamin E levels rapidly
          > Tremendous increase in disorders like systemic lupus, multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, pulmonary hypertension and neuropathy
          > Paralysis of the skeletal muscles
          > Spasms of the respiratory system
          > Blocking enzyme function
          > Shuts down our immune system

          take into consideration that just about EVERYTHING store bought has this shit jammed into it in one way or another

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ray peat has a lot to say about them. Basically they fuck up your metabolism, make you fat, give you cancer and other diseases

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ray peat
      Lmfao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cancer gives you cancer

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eating too many calories makes you fat. You people keep shifting the blame: fat, sugar, seed-oils, hormones. CICO is all that matters.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i have no idea how it works but i started cooking food exclusively with beef tallow and bacon grease and ive lost a ton of weight and i feel way better and when i eat something with seed oil in it i can like instantly tell and i instantly feel like irritated and sluggish.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its also not placebo because i didn't assume that seed oils were bad and i just did this as an experiment.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It could still be a placebo retardo.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i am aware, it is less likely then if i assumed that seed oils were bad tho. but thanks for the input.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how does that prove it’s not placebo?
        Did you not know which food was cooked with seed oil and which one wasn’t?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it reduces the psychological bias i have against seed oils if i didn't conclude ahead of time that they were bad, it does not prove that it was not a placebo, it reduces the likelyhood. you are being autistic. please go outside and touch grass and talk to a woman.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i have no idea how it works but
      this is the type of retard we're dealing with

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i have no idea how it works but i started cooking food exclusively with beef tallow and bacon grease and ive lost a ton of weight and i feel way better and when i eat something with seed oil in it i can like instantly tell and i instantly feel like irritated and sluggish.

        The loser "needs proof" vs the winner "I felt it"
        unironically, if you're so retarded as to not listen to your body and instincts, you are the NPC that's made fun of on so much here.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          more people need to listen to their body

          earlier today i made has browns with bacon grease, and i was like "this would be good with some mayonaise". so i had a tiny bit of mayonaise and instantly i felt irritated and sluggish before i had even swallowed the mayonaise and i don't think it was placebo because i had totally forgotten that this mayonaise had basedbean oil until after i put it into my mouth and felt awful and then remembered "oh shit this must be because of the basedbean oil"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah. I don't know if my body is just lying to me sometimes though. I listen to it anyways, but do I really need to throw-up when I eat sour-kraut? Whenever I taste pumpkin pie? I gag. Grilled cheese sandwich? I gag. I've even been starting to get sick of eggs 'cuz I've been eating them for 2 meals a day for the better part of a year by now.
            I think the only food I will never get sick of is medium rare to rare steak.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://chriskresser.com/how-industrial-seed-oils-are-making-us-sick/
    Here's a good article that goes over most of it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Biased articles using cherry-picked data don't prove anything, the consensus is that seed oils are safe.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The 'consensus' is also bias, there's not much to gain by going against sneed oils.
        On the other hand supporting the food industry status quo is a big incentive, a fuckton of products use seed oils. If they are exposed as harmful it'd be extremely costly

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So your evidence is
          >I believe it could be true
          >therefore it is true

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's research that shows seeds oils are harmful.
            But even if there weren't, it's just logical.
            Humans didn't evolve eating anything like this crap, why would you think it isn't harmful? Have a little sense

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >But even if there weren't, it's just logical.
              Lmfao, I would guess you waved goodbye to logic a while ago.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tired of talking to midwits like you.
                Just drink seed oils and die.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The consensus is that IQ isn't heritable, too. If you want to show yourself out by taking the ponens to my tollens on that, well, be my guest.

      • 4 weeks ago
        SwedishBrorsan

        What consensus? The statistics show that we're dying prematurely since the introduction of seed oils

        Lars Bern has been warning is about this since several years ago

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Checkmate chuds, the Science is settled and seed oils are necessary for Our Democracy and equality for Colored Bodies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >https://chriskresser.com/how-industrial-seed-oils-are-making-us-sick/

      >"BHA, BHT and TBQH come with problems on their own (10, 11, 12, 13)”

      LITERALLY IN THE FIRST FUCKING SOURCE (source 10):
      >”There is no sufficient data available at the moment to draw a conclusion regarding the safety of BHA when referring to its endocrine disrupting effect."

      From source 11:
      >”since [BHA and BHT] have further been observed to INHIBIT chemical carcinogenesis in various organs when administered to rats concurrently with carcinogens (5,6,17), they have been considered as ANTIcarcinogenic agents. However, BHA was recently found to be carcinogenic in the rat forestomach (9), and when antioxidants were given to rats after carcinogen exposure, they enhanced carcinogenesis in some organs while exerting an inhibitory influence in others (5–8). Therefore, antioxidants have both hazardous and nonhazardous effects in rodents, and by analogy also possibly in man.”

      What they are saying here is that they have both positive and negative effects.

      Source 12 bases the carcinogenic properties of BHT and BHA on the previous article, making this source completely redundant.

      I’m a little bit too retarded to understand what they are saying in source 13, but a quick google search finds that tBHQ is a metabolic product of BHA, meaning that it is pretty redundant to talk about when BHA is also discussed

      Also:

      >"They’re derived from genetically modified crops."

      This sentence right here is an immediate red flag that you are dealing with a complete fucking retard, and should immediately discredit the entire article. It shows such a complete lack of knowledge on how chemistry (and biology) works.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good job checking their alleged sources. Kresser is a garden gnome just like Teicholz, they have no reservations knowingly lying about this as long as it kills white people.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that the guy who looks like he has aids and got destroyed by that vegan on Joe Rogan's podcast?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the omega3:omega6 ratios are completely fucked in most sneed oils

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This except not most, but all.
      Even flax seeds which are high in omega 3 are high in the wrong type of omega 3, ALA. EPA and DHA are the two types that raise your omega 3 index, ALA get's converted to EPA but only in miniscule amounts.
      All seed oils will tip your 3:6 ratio out the fucking window unless you eat lots of fish as well.
      Humans never had this problem because we weren't able to get 10,000 seeds, press the oil out of it and consume it. Animal fats have an almost pefect ratio of omega 3 to 6 which is what we would regularly consume (granted free grazing, not grain fed).
      A low omega 3 index has many problems, most common cardiovascular complications, inflammation, depression and even lower cognitive function.
      It's a massive problem because everyone cooks with seed oils, you buy deep fried shit from restaurants and fish consumption in comparison is very low.
      However you can still use seed oils as long as it's not making up a sizable portion of your fat intake. Using a tablespoon of olive oil for your salad is fine as long as you use butter or lard for baking your potatoes instead of drizzling them with more seed oils.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Which oils are considered "seed" oils? Is it just all plant-based oils?

        Olive oil is not a seed oil, it's a fruit oil, it doesn't come with the PUFA and issues that seed oils do.
        Same with coconut and avocado oils.
        You can consume large quantities of olive oil and have a perfeclty healthy balance of omegas. Problem is, much of the olive oil you buy in a supermarket is bunk and cut with other shitty oils. If you can source true 100% pure olive oil, go for it.
        Personally beef tallow and coconut oil are all I use.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Olive oil is not a seed oil
          They grind the entire olive, seed and all.
          >You can consume large quantities of olive oil and have a perfeclty healthy balance of omegas.
          No you can't, for the reasons already stated in

          This except not most, but all.
          Even flax seeds which are high in omega 3 are high in the wrong type of omega 3, ALA. EPA and DHA are the two types that raise your omega 3 index, ALA get's converted to EPA but only in miniscule amounts.
          All seed oils will tip your 3:6 ratio out the fucking window unless you eat lots of fish as well.
          Humans never had this problem because we weren't able to get 10,000 seeds, press the oil out of it and consume it. Animal fats have an almost pefect ratio of omega 3 to 6 which is what we would regularly consume (granted free grazing, not grain fed).
          A low omega 3 index has many problems, most common cardiovascular complications, inflammation, depression and even lower cognitive function.
          It's a massive problem because everyone cooks with seed oils, you buy deep fried shit from restaurants and fish consumption in comparison is very low.
          However you can still use seed oils as long as it's not making up a sizable portion of your fat intake. Using a tablespoon of olive oil for your salad is fine as long as you use butter or lard for baking your potatoes instead of drizzling them with more seed oils.

          Stop posting wrong opinions about shit you don't know about.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Omega ratios and fat content of olive oil is nothing like seed oils. Olive oil is fine.

            >Stop posting wrong opinions about shit you don't know about.

            Take your own advice cunt.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Alright you mouth breathing cunt, let's go through the motions
              Olive oil has 9x more omega 6 than 3
              Ideal omega 3 to 6 is 4:1 respectively
              So you're already completely wrong from the fucking start.
              Omega 3 from plant sources barely changes that index because as fucking stated here >>>>

              This except not most, but all.
              Even flax seeds which are high in omega 3 are high in the wrong type of omega 3, ALA. EPA and DHA are the two types that raise your omega 3 index, ALA get's converted to EPA but only in miniscule amounts.
              All seed oils will tip your 3:6 ratio out the fucking window unless you eat lots of fish as well.
              Humans never had this problem because we weren't able to get 10,000 seeds, press the oil out of it and consume it. Animal fats have an almost pefect ratio of omega 3 to 6 which is what we would regularly consume (granted free grazing, not grain fed).
              A low omega 3 index has many problems, most common cardiovascular complications, inflammation, depression and even lower cognitive function.
              It's a massive problem because everyone cooks with seed oils, you buy deep fried shit from restaurants and fish consumption in comparison is very low.
              However you can still use seed oils as long as it's not making up a sizable portion of your fat intake. Using a tablespoon of olive oil for your salad is fine as long as you use butter or lard for baking your potatoes instead of drizzling them with more seed oils. <<<< plant sourced omega 3 is almost entirely ALA which doesn't change your index and barely converts to the useful types of omega 3 that do.
              Unless you can refute any of the above, go tell your fucking dad to swallow his load next time so we don't have dumb cunts like you sprawling around with shit for brain opinions.
              Got it fuckhead?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *1:4 respectively
                Before dumb fuck tries to play that card on me.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >granted free grazing, not grain fed
        Where the fuck would I find this? I doubt there is a single cow in my entire country (perhaps outside of some meme breeds in zoos) that is not fed compound feed. I doubt it's even possible to raise modern meat breeds without modern fodder.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He doesn't have boundless fields of grazing cattle

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >implying they are not fed compound feed as a supplement to grazing
            I don't actually know lmao, but I imagine they do. There's simply not enough calories in grass for the growth rates of modern meat breeds.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >implying they are not fed compound feed as a supplement to grazing
            I don't actually know lmao, but I imagine they do. There's simply not enough calories in grass for the growth rates of modern meat breeds.

            And anyway, as a European I can hardly get my hands of cunt country meat.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just looking at that thumbnail should be enough

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't, but some grifters have found a niche there and it makes them money. Since retards who fall for these kinds of people are NEETs and other losers, they will also be found on incel boards like this one.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Food cooked with coconut oil and ghee taste better.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which oils are considered "seed" oils? Is it just all plant-based oils?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basically they go rancid and oxidise. They get deposited in your fat cells which causes them to oxidise

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you let your seed oils get rancid and then consume them that's on you, not on seed oils. You can see and smell it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They oxidize before they even reach the store shelf and no, humans cannot smell rancidity in seeds oils that have been bleached and deodorized.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they heat the shit at 400c for like 12 hours in a giant vat to remove the rancid stench before putting it on the shelf.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They oxidize before they even reach the store shelf and no, humans cannot smell rancidity in seeds oils that have been bleached and deodorized.

            Alright buddy, what about cold pressed sneed oils? It's pretty much all I could get at the store except if I went looking for the cheapest trash available.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you mean olive/avocado oil those aren't seed oils. They are better, but not as good as tallow and ghee

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >what about cold pressed sneed oils

              Doesn't exist.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Obviously we can, you can literally try this yourself. Seed oil on the shelf is not rancid.

          they heat the shit at 400c for like 12 hours in a giant vat to remove the rancid stench before putting it on the shelf.

          Yea, they remove toxic smelly compounds during processing. This is a good thing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            weak b8
            IST will fall for it anyways though

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heat alters oil quality.
    Also fatty acid composition.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what exactly about it being processed makes it bad?
    because the ones processing it want you to be miserable and take 500 different kinds of medication.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      brainlet-tier reply

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here is the actual answer:
    Seed oils get processed heavily, literally boiled above fryer temps for hours, and treated with various cooling and heating procedures in order to make the oil "flavourless" otherwise it smells awful. This process alters the chemical, stretching it out into mono-unsatured fats, 'mono' being a one chain bond, which is weak and unstable. For this reason, seed oils oxidise easily, which is why you don't leave seed oils out in sunlight for long, otherwise the chains oxidise, making the oil bitter and reintroducing the smell. Chemically, olive oil is the strongest and healthiest of seed oils because the processes are much less intensive. When you eat seed oils they can be broken down by the body and absorbed, but our body isn't made to consume that many seeds worth of oil, or such small seeds at all. The broken down components of seed oils can latch to our brain cells and more importantly our telomeres, the cells responsible for aging. Once there they can still oxidise which harms the telomeres and speeds up aging. Vegans don't eat butter and subsidise everything they eat with seed oils which is why the age so much faster. Regular animal fat and butter don't oxidise like this because they aren't processed, and have stronger bonds. Fat don't go mouldy or break down in this sense, it develops a hard crust which can be shaved off to reveal fresh fat. It's also why you hear stories of giant mounds of butter being lost in an irish swamp, found again after decades and still being edible underneath the hardened husk.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Inflammatory, oxidative, loaded with unnatural chemicals, full of anti-nutrients (seeds are the most well defended part of a plant for obvious reasons). Those are the main reasons, which you could have easily found out on your own.

      And it has nothing to do with that moron coca cola addict Ray Peat. Any sensible diet has at its core animal fats, that's where we get bioavailable fat-soluble nutrients, it's crucial.

      How did both of you manage to cram so much wrong shit into one post?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you're wrong
        >doesn't say why
        Nothing of value here

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know why you say wrong shit, maybe you're a bit stupid, or you're baiting or whatever. You can just google that for example telomers aren't cells, and seed oils aren't "oxidative".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >telomeres
            Ya I fucked that one up. I meant mitochondria in the cell. Seed oils cause damage to mitochondria, which over time leads to "age-related" illnesses ie parkinsons, alzheimers and heart failure. Specifically brains diseases because your brain has more mitochondria than any organ.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You didn't just fuck that up, you fucked everything up. I was just giving an example. "Mono" does not mean what you say it does either. Google it.
              That part about mitochondria is bs too, btw.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're wrong
                >doesn't say why
                >just google it bro
                Nothing of value

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bro, mono doesn't refer to single bonds, it means there's one (mono) double bond. Single bonds aren't more unstable and they aren't created by "stretching" due to the processing.
                Next time, google instead of talking out your ass

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it isn't a single bond it is a single DOUBLE bond
                >IT ISN'T ONE PAIR OF SOCKS IT IS TWO SOCKS
                Did I need to fucking spell that for you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why you did spell it out and it was unbelievably retarded:
                >This process alters the chemical, stretching it out into mono-unsatured fats, 'mono' being a one chain bond, which is weak and unstable.
                You should have learned why this is wrong in middle school.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you were doing okay until you started talking about telomeres, aging, and veganism, then everything you said just went to sheer retardation

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most intelligent seed oil conspiracy theorist.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Inflammatory, oxidative, loaded with unnatural chemicals, full of anti-nutrients (seeds are the most well defended part of a plant for obvious reasons). Those are the main reasons, which you could have easily found out on your own.

    And it has nothing to do with that moron coca cola addict Ray Peat. Any sensible diet has at its core animal fats, that's where we get bioavailable fat-soluble nutrients, it's crucial.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mommy blog science because it's basically just the modern day version of "evil spirits fucking my shit up." If you want to know for sure you're going to have to research what mainstream biology says about things like cell respiration, ATP, etc and then compare it to what guys like Ray Peat and mommy bloggers say. That's it, no hand holding tldr explanation is going to satisfy. Brush up on organic Chem and college biology, read studies, decide for yourself.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >falling for the >seed oils are bad meme

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PUFAs retard.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't bad in moderation. Many IST users just love to contrast with popular culture on everything to feel more intelligent than everyone else. 10g of oil a day isn't going to cause you to suddenly turn into jabba the hut.

    • 4 weeks ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      > TaKe SoMeThInG tHaT eXiSt In JuSt AbOuT eVeRyThInG sToRe BoUgHt In MoDeRaTiOn

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't buy processed food then. Is that too difficult for you lil buddy?

        • 4 weeks ago
          SwedishBrorsan

          > dont buy in moderation, is that too difficult for you lil buddy ?
          now you can eat in moderation since you dont eat them at all

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you struggling with the concept of only eating something occasionally? It's not difficult, but judging from the logical extreme straw man arguments, wojaks and ReDdIt TyPeCaSe I think I can see why you can't grasp it

            • 4 weeks ago
              SwedishBrorsan

              how much seed oil do you think you need to be considered too much ?
              stop talking about things you have no fucking clue about you fucking degen

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Around 10g, 20g max but will vary person to person.
                >degen
                You're 17 aren't you

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                calling you a degen for good reasons makes me 17, now let me know about your humble consumption of "moderately digesting 10g of seed oils" ?
                you put something in your mouth and suck on it ?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? Obviously you digest all of it? Look its clear you're thick and have been sold on a concept you don't understand well enough to explain. I'll leave you to think on the fact that being a contrarian doesn't mean you're intelligent.

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                you couldnt answer that simple question ? fucking have a nice day retard
                something so simple as HOW YOU FUCKING DIGEST 10G is that so fucking hard for you to answer ?

                seed oil brain probably been sucking up gutter slop all week

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im very curious what an incel swede looks like. Post body gay.

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                im apparently an incel because i talk about seed oils, the retardation is reaching cosmical levels

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because i talk about seed oils
                Not the same anon but you nerds and virgins might as well keep shilling out nofap as a solution to increase all lifts. You guys are the same with IST when it comes to describing theory

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                i havent mentioned my lifts at all in here, stop being so fucking retarded! HOLY FUCK

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >too stupid to understand the statement
                >you are being retarded!
                are you stupid or trolling?

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                whats your statement if its not literally x increases y ? typical mouth breathers thinking theyre talking big words
                with even the simplest sentence imaginable and fail to see how stupid they look in the process

                juggling more balls than your mom can is obivously difficult for you, maybe you should try to read my messages
                before replying to that one guy that mentioned lifts in this thread instead of behaving we're the same person

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wat are you on about you absolute nerd? im telling you to elaborate on why seed oils increases or decreases your lifts and all you are doing is telling people they are stupid for not understanding 1+1 or some dyel nerd shit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                baka.. still dont even read what im writing

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                for one youre name fagging.
                two, you never cite any sources. You might as well just write up alex jones as your source.
                three, you are ramblemaxxing about seed oils on a fitness board with strangers.
                I feel pathetic just writing this out, im x-ing out this thread.

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                https://biblioteket.stockholm.se/titel/1136082
                http://libris.kb.se/bib/8m5gvnvv6rzb529p
                https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-human-nutrition-influences-severity-corona-virus-montagnini

                Lars Bern has been covering these typics for about a decade or longer, he should provide you plenty of nuanced answers

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                baka.. still dont even read what im writing

                >post citations about effects of virus on health
                >posts a linkedin account as citation
                >see! seed oils decreases all your lifts!

              • 4 weeks ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                > post citations about effects of virus on health
                posted book reference and author/scientist
                > posts a linkedin account as citation
                the same books and author
                > see! seed oils decreases all your lifts!
                never said anything about my lift, only one mentions of lift in this thread and its not from me.

                stop trying to use your brain, its retarded

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >only one mentions of lift in this thread and its not from me
                >we are just talking about how seed oils affects your health, nothing about how it is bad for you or not

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same damaging things that happen when you eat saturated fat but to MUCH LESSER EXTENT. I've yet to see a single seed oil panic schizo presentation showing any comparison on effects, the fuckers trying to get people to eat more saturated fat know they are lying, that's why they leave comparisons out. They're also garden gnomes to a large part, so there is their motivation for doing this: kill white people.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plants are living things, immobile, but alive. Like all living things they want to propagate, so they do things that may promote that but they also do things that will defend that. Seeds are their methods of reproduction, so they make them dangerous to consume.

    After all, several vegetables and fruits contain toxins in different amounts, where do you think we get cyanide and ricin from? Processed from plants.
    >Side note: this is what I like to bring up when people say dumb shit like something is good cause "it's natural"
    >In that case Socrates died a natural death
    This is death by a thousand cuts, as is most junk in the grocery store. Is this small serving size they put on the nutrition facts bad for you? No. Is that serving size consumed hundreds of times over years bad for you? Sometimes it is.

    That doesn't mean all plant based oils are bad for you, olive oil (only buy extra virgin) is made from the meat of the fruit, not the seed, same with avocado and a few others. I'd recommend having duck fat and ghee on hand as well for cooking; it's all good for you.

    As with most things; if it's not something you could make yourself then chances are you are okay to consume it if your body agrees with it. On the other hand you can't make vegetable oil, but you can make olive oil: people were making it as long as 8,000 years ago.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What exactly do you eat if anything previously alive is excluded? Water and minerals?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Utilizing toxins is their method of defending their seeds, smooth brain, they need something since they're immobile. The animal kingdom has any number of methods, generally physical like claws, antlers, etc. but also venom of course. Plants on the other hand use chemical methods of defense.

        >There is no evidence they are bad but I can make up a story that implies they might be bad so they are!!!
        Retarded logic

        >can't refute it
        Lemme guess I need to do all the legwork for you and give you
        >source?
        >source? got a source?
        Wanna know what's worse than seed oils? The cancer on this board.

        I even softball handed you an easy example that many seeds have some amount of cyanide in them. The fact you didn't even know that is sad.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So you're saying olives make the olive tasty for animals but fill the seed with toxins?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They don't want the seeds destroyed, but it's beneficial for the seed to move, so yes, the meat of fruits is generally made to be appealing so it can be spread.

            There's nothing in there to refute. Try making a coherent point first.

            Stay mad

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >nooo what do you mean seeds are proven to be healthy plants don't want you to eat them so they are toxic I'm sure of it!!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said seeds have toxins, but yeah, many plants do as well.

                If you don't believe me then go out in the wild and eat some random shit and prove me wrong.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >some seeds are toxic
                >thus seeds proven to be healthy are bad for you
                Flawless logic.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you used to eat lead paint chips as a kid?
                >Say some seeds have toxins
                >OH SO ALL PLANTS AND SEEDS ARE BAD
                I would recommend you practice your reading comprehension. It's good to be on IST but don't forget to exercise your brain too. Or just an hero and save me the trouble of a (You)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah gotcha, you just wanted to mention that some seeds have toxins even though that has nothing to do with seed oils.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Seeds have toxins
                >Seed oil is made from seeds
                >These two things have nothing to do with each other
                You deserve Reddit gold for being this obtuse, intentionally or not

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it´s bait, my friend. Redirect your anger towards self productivity.

                ...it must be bait, right?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You keep switching your argument back and forth.
                As you stressed yourself, only SOME seeds have toxins.
                Seed oils don't.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's nothing in there to refute. Try making a coherent point first.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There is no evidence they are bad but I can make up a story that implies they might be bad so they are!!!
      Retarded logic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        alright buddy I got a source for you I eat a stick of butter a day and you eat 8 table spoons of basedbean oil a day we do this for a month and see which one of us feels better.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Seed Oil's origin story is that they were making it as TANK LUBRICANT and then the war ended and they had so much they decided to just start selling it as a food product
    This is all I need to know.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are there people here so aggressively defending seed oils

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I guarantee you that people who get extremely autistic with food are all dyel nerds. Literally every scientist and doctor as well as you virgins here on IST are all dyels talking about how much you increased your lifts in 1 week just cause you didnt eat 1g of carbs or some stupid shit

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's pretty compelling outcome studies that the whole foods containing these types of oil (nuts legumes and whole grains) lower risk of disease. So I eat those. I'm okay with avoiding the refined oils that come from them though.

    In general, your body is ill-equipped to process everything that's been refined, concentrated and distilled only in recent history. That includes heroin, sugar, flour, cocaine, and probably seed oils.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk what exactly it is someone said its makes you have too much omega something in your body or some shit.
    There's probably some truth to it bc I've cut down my seed oil consumption (still have it just not as much) and I no longer sunburn or get really bad acne

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I no longer sunburn
      Your body has started increasing production of melanin or something?

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what do you typically use to cook w in a non-stick pan if u can't use basically any oils?

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If the oil isn't produced mechanically it's garbage.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If nothing else it seems silly to eat oil from things that humans don’t normally eat, specifically cottonseed and rapeseed/canola.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the most effective answer to OP's question:

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EVOO is still king
    and no, evoo doesnt have the seed, only the fruit

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i need a huge blackpill. me any my gym bros are literally eating the best diet for gains rn and we made HUGE gains to the point that i can sell the diet and become a millionaire for how effective it is. The only problem is it was some sneed oils in it:
    >4 pieces of white bread
    >2 tortilla wraps with 4g pufas per wrap
    i think its fucking canola
    >some zero calorie mayo with little sneed oils

    I'm i going to die? i feel unironically good but i don't want to die in my 30's

    • 4 weeks ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      its safe to say that a lot of people dont know what feeling good even is to begin with since this is all youve ever known
      try being without it for 3-4 months and start baking your own bread and see if you feel any different

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >falling for bait
        >shiggy diggy doo

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's literally no reason not to eat a fuckton of vegetable oils aside from
    > hurr a lot of calories, few nutrients
    > le olive oil is better
    If your diet is otherwise fine, you can fucking drink this shit instead of water.

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