Can you achieve the roider looks without roids?
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Can you achieve the roider looks without roids?
Can you achieve the roider looks without roids?
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He looked so good before
why would u want to
why not?
because you look like a tryhard
Yes
yea this body is perfectly achievable natty, but what the frick is going on with his chest?
Narrow shoulders aka small frame
>perfectly achievable natty
Only for those with very, very good genetics. Even Jon himself was on roids in this picture (at 18 btw).
I think candito would have looked like this(with much bigger legs) if he cut 15lbs, 10 years ago. Just as a 5'7 manlet.
>perfectly achievable natty
why do people keep saying this? i have seen this cope since like 2011 going well above 10 years now. i dont understand how you can make that claim when nobody looks like this without roids yet its "easily achievable"? well why does no natural look like it then and only roiders achieve it? please tell me who is natty and looks like this? surely you have a list of people ready at your hand since its so perfectly achievable. why do people even take roids then when you can look like that natty at like 19 years old or whatever skywalker was at the time
You can if you light and angle fraud.
darkmaxxing helped out for zyzz as well
how do you actually know that no naturals achieve it? Not saying you're wrong, but you're the one deciding who is natty or not in your mind, we all have a different line, but we dont know who is right
It's not that they can't achieve it, but it's not sustainable. Skylkwalker is 8-9% bf in Op's picrel. Have fun maintaining that level of leanness while trying to hold on to muscle mass.
This is the issue with roidtroony frauds. They completely change perspectives of what is normally achievable.
It is possible (the 'look' not the size) if you picked the right parents and have lucky genes.
You also need to be pretty attentive to diet/sleep etc.
Not plausible for most people
this.
It's comical how zoomer morons like
actually believe this is achieveble natty
roidtrannies ruin everything
>the 'look'
Overhead lighting and a low bodyfat?
id rather just achieve the roids look with roids
realistically, no.
unrealistically, if you have top tier genes and you start working out seriously as a teen, by the time you're in your late 30's/early 40s, maybe.
note that we're talking about "the look" here, the muscle maturity, the definition/separation, the rounded shoulders that sans roids take fricking forever to get (if you get them at all)
outside of "the look", you can easily manage something with the same lbm/bf% numbers (assuming equal height as well) as your picrel with 2-3 years of proper training
you won't look as good, because no "the look", but the numbers part is fairly achievable.
what height weight is this? Do I have body dysmorphia if I don't feel big despite having that amount of muscle?
Weight, dunno maybe below 180lbs
Height, 6'4
He was 6'4" 180ish in that pic
He's around 215 at same bf% these days, maybe bit less when he's not blasting