Carnivore diet thoughts or concerns?

I'm getting mixed signals about meaty diets. Med gays have told me that consuming "too much" meat causes inflammation and have either warned about going over 100g/day of red meat or just consuming "too much" meat in general. I treat myself to one to two 8oz sirlions each week but otherwise keep myself to some chicken, tilapia and roughly 3 eggs per day. Also lift 4 times a week.

What are your thoughts about meaty/carnivore diets, am I being duped here by globohomo science?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Concerns?
    Constipation

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the healthiest diet possible.

      Constipation is caused by fiber. Zero fiber diets cure constipation 100%.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >takes exogenous testosterone
        >natty

        pick one

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You obviously haven't done it then. I've been on it for 50 days now and I've had zero problems after initial adaptation. Once a day, small caliber.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol, no

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some fucking context is missing here given the high percentage of anal bleeding for baseline. Where the fuck was this study done, San Francisco?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Here's the sauce. Study was done in Australia. Highly recommend Paul Mason.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The study targeted people with such symptoms to see how increasing or decreasing fiber would affect those symptoms.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a PowerPoint slide

        This is me Day 1 vs Day 50. 271 to 245. Incredible energy, stable mood, consistent weight loss, and I'm increasing my lifts. What do you want to know about it, anon? I can share firsthand, not just speculation.

        >this is who tells me carnivore is best

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >a PowerPoint slide
          From this presentation: https://youtu.be/xqUO4P9ADI0

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine having opinions on diet without ever having actually tried what you're commenting on. The food is right there, just eat it and see what happens. Moron.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't have to poop large logs 3 times a day anymore therefore I'm constipated
      Do vegans really?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's funny, vegans constantly have digestive issues, they are always either constipated or have diarrhoea, depending on their fibre intake. Plant based with low fibre = diarrhoea, plant based high fibre = constipation. They are always trying to find that balance and it's the main thing they discuss in their circle (among millions of other health problems).

        It fries their brains to contemplate that people can eat close to zero fibre and have perfect digestion, it is a complete debunking of everything they believe which is perhaps why carnivore makes them so defensive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally the single most common side effect of carnivore diet is liquid shits you retard

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know about the meat inflammation thing, but I guarantee you those med fags are not referring to carnivore diet. The studies they are talking about are comparing eating a hamburger vs a double cheeseburger type shit. It's not really about eating "too much meat" it's about eating too much within the context of an more or less ordinary western diet. When you go full carnivore or actual keto everything is different. The thing is, you're never going to get anywhere asking people here because it's one never ending debate. Eventually you'll have to try it for yourself. You should look up Paul Saladino, follow what he says for a few months, and see how you look and feel after. Then you can decide for yourself how to go forward

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is true. The standard western diet is something like 80-90% plant based, and they use these diets to "show" that the miniscule amount of meat in it is causing various things like cancer, while ignoring the massive toxic levels of everything else. It's extremely dishonest but that's the nature of food science; it exists to prop up the food industry which wants to replace meat with processed plant based garbage which is far more profitable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Med gays have told me that consuming "too much" meat causes inflammation
      Wrong. Studies that "show a correlation" between meat and inflammation/cancer/lebad are based on questionnaires, made on old/obese people (because guess what, not that many people get cancer in the first place), and the people who eat meat in those studies smoke much more and do much less exercise than their counterpart.
      In truth, when it comes to nutrition, activating the Randle cycle (by consuming carbs and fats together) is what causes inflammation.
      Consuming pork and such will only promote an inflammation that already exists. Nothing that mTOR can't take care of either.
      >too much meat, too much protein
      No such thing, no human study to back any of that. The "protein causes kidney damage" is some bullshit study based on diabetic rats.
      If anything there seem to be no upper limit to how many protein you can eat.
      >chicken
      Kinda garbage meat ngl

      This, except you remove Paul "honeycucked" Saladinerino, and replace him with Shaun Baker, Bart Kay, Paul Mason, Ken Berry, Harry Serpanos

      i think inflammation is a buzzword and isn't a real issue. by the way you could supplement with milk thistle to help your liver detoxify the meat.

      Bigger buzzword is anti-inflammation and antioxidants from plants/fruits when we have mTOR and grounding.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This, except you remove Paul "honeycucked" Saladinerino, and replace him with Shaun Baker, Bart Kay, Paul Mason, Ken Berry, Harry Serpanos
        I said Saladino just because I think he's probably the most accessible. Shaun Baker is good. Don't really follow those others you mentioned. I guess the point for OP is to just pick SOMEONE in the carnivore sphere and follow what they say for a few months. That's the only way to really get any worthwhile knowledge.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh miraculous negation of negative health effects of meat by eating more meat
      You're stupid.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Red meat is anti-inflammatory, it's one of the least inflammatory things you can eat which is why it resolves so many chronic-inflammation related diseases, aswell as autoimmune conditions.

    I would disregard the opinions of anyone who thinks meat is unhealthy, it's such a braindead thing to believe that can only come from ideological brainwashing, since we evolved primarily eating the stuff. It takes massive cognitive dissonance to believe a species' primary food source is responsible for modern diseases. A lot of people who work in healthcare are frankly midwits and you can't ignore the fact that if everyone ate meat and quit goyslop these people would be out of a job.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Red meat is definitely inflammatory. Not to mention how unnatural the agricultural industry is today. Red meat (specifically mammals) are pumped with too many hormones and god knows what. Definitely effects us humans. To OP, I would definitely suggest limiting red meat and sticking to chicken and non-factory farmed fish. If you want to eat a lot of red meat then go for elk/ red meat from non-hormone pumped cows.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Been on it for around 5 months. Not doing hard-core carnivore, as I still eat fruit and honey. I feel amazing. I eat twice a day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have you been doing it for weight loss? Any stats?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I got down to 180 from being around the 188_190 range. I look noticeably more defined, and I haven't really lost any strength. I usually do classic WL (CnJ, snatch), but am doing kettle bell training for the next few months while I give my body time to reset from all the fucked up training I was doing. I maxed on deadlift about a month ago, and i could still pull 425. My best all tike is 540ish

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is me Day 1 vs Day 50. 271 to 245. Incredible energy, stable mood, consistent weight loss, and I'm increasing my lifts. What do you want to know about it, anon? I can share firsthand, not just speculation.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i think inflammation is a buzzword and isn't a real issue. by the way you could supplement with milk thistle to help your liver detoxify the meat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's used as a buzzword but it's real and can be measured via biomarkers. Inflammation and anti-inflammation are natural processes that are inherent to growth and repair, they aren't good or bad. The problem is chronic inflammation from foods which upsets this balance and inhibits cellular repair. Because almost everyone is chronically inflamed we don't like to think it exists, we pretend that it's normal to be sick all the time and always carrying niggling injuries that won't go away (vegans call it detoxing) but if you give up modern foods and do a diet like carnivore or something similar to that then it can be strange to live without inflammation. It makes everything better from digestion to sleep to mood to injury recovery to skin to immune system.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to look more into it if that's what you think. Cancer is essentially caused by inflammation, its the biggest health issue of our time, alongside microplastics. I recommend you read "The Secret Life of Your Microbiome"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Inflammation is serious. Everything you put in your body causes it. Some things more than others, obviously. Less is best.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looking good. Do you still eat small quantities of fruits/vegs? I want to start going a bit more hardcore soon but don't want to give up good shit like watermelon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks! 🙂 I understand that recently Paul Saladino, who is a big name in the carnivore circle, has started incorporating fruits into his diet, however he is already very fit and lean, so it's probably not bad for him. I choose not to, as I know that by testing my glucose, even small amounts of fruit will raise insulin and impede fat loss. I have no plans to incorporate fruits or vegetables of any kind into my diet for the time being. Watermelon is really sugary, and will almost certainly block your gains if you're doing carnivore. You can't really eat it on keto either, and one of the reasons carnivore works is that it's inflexibly ketogenic. Do it or don't do it. Watermelon is strictly anti-carnivore.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been on carnivore for a while now. It's incredible. The physical and mental health gains are unmatched.

    I just the other day ate some apples and mangos as a treat. It made me feel bloated and wasn't as enjoyable as I had imagined.

    In the future if I want carbs I will probably just eat honey or milk. Plants are garbage. Carbs are overrated anyway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Plants are garbage

      Your brain is truly failing you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your arteries are getting more fucked by the day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"been on carnivore for a while now"
      >"ate some apples and mangos as a treat...made me feel bloated"

      introducing foods into your diet that you haven't had for an extended period of time temporarily has adverse effects, noooo fuckigng wayyyy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The bloat is from fiber. Indigestible waste inherent to whole plant foods. Unavoidable except by avoiding plants.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          and over time you adjust to fiber intake. obviously you're going to be bloated if you have fiber for literally the first time in months or however long you've been on the diet

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and over time you adjust to fiber intake.
            Wrong, you never do.
            Humans do not digest fibers, bacterias in your gut does. And for what? butyric acid and some control of your blood glucose level. You can get the former with butter, and don't need the latter if you don't eat carbs like a dumb cunt.
            At what cost? poopoo troubles.

            So zero benefits unless you're afraid of butter and like spiking your blood sugar. Right, and fruits are supposed to be "healthy". That's not counting the pectins, lectins and other shit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            When you eat fiber you just get used to feeling bloated all the time.

            That's why people who eat fiber are so obsessed with pooping. The physical relief they feel when pooping becomes addictive to them. It's the only time their digestive system feels relaxed.

            On carnivore your guts feel relaxed all the time. You start to take it for granted. Then you eat some fiber and are reminded of what it feels like to have bulky indigestible garbage in your bowels.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're unbelievably retarded if you actually think anything you said here is not 100% disprovable.

              T. 40-60g fiber daily.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                post belly, bloatboy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you can't consume fiber, it's because you're an unhealthy piece of shit and need to retrain your gut bacteria.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >and over time you adjust to fiber intake.
              Wrong, you never do.
              Humans do not digest fibers, bacterias in your gut does. And for what? butyric acid and some control of your blood glucose level. You can get the former with butter, and don't need the latter if you don't eat carbs like a dumb cunt.
              At what cost? poopoo troubles.

              So zero benefits unless you're afraid of butter and like spiking your blood sugar. Right, and fruits are supposed to be "healthy". That's not counting the pectins, lectins and other shit.

              lmao

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been doing carnivore for 5 years, and OMAD carnivore for almost 6 months now. I kinda kick myself that I didn't do it sooner tbh. I've never been particularly unhealthy but it did improve a few things like it got rid of some wrinkles, reversed some dental issues, eyesight a bit better, and made it really easy to maintain low bodyfat, and made my digestion incredible. I don't bloat or fart throughout the day anymore, never constipated like I used to when I ate fibre.

    40 years old, natty, no supplements.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      looking gud

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks. I try to post whenever I see these threads because you ALWAYS get vegtards coming in to shill and agitate for their corporate diets, and they will attack people for not looking good (as if the world isn't already full with millions of "balanced diet" eaters riddled with diseases and obesity.

        It's actually staggering just how many thousands of people have reversed or cured serious diseases by eating a proper diet. Makes you realise just how fucked up the average person's perception of food is.

        I'm generally frustrated that IST has become infested with schizos peddling nonsense

        Take a look at this dickhead, he's actually frustrated that people are getting results eating a natural diet. Imagine being such a fucking golem for gnomish foods that you are triggered by people's success stories. This is the kind of degeneracy we are dealing with.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >eating 100% animal products is natural
          >foods that aren't 100% animal products are gnomish
          >degeneracy

          seek help from (from a gnomish) therapist

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know who was behind cash crops, and who controls all major corporations
            >doesn't realise almost everything he eats was engineered in the last 150 years
            >thinks he's eating a balanced diet when in reality he's malnourished
            >thinks it's just a conspiracy theory
            >doesn't realise his muh balanced is just a corporate diet

            Wake up

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              livestock has been engineered too THOUGH and at no point in human history has any society subsisted on meat or animal products exclusively which is why nothing you say makes any sense BUT its clear this is part of your schizo identity rather than a conscious health choice SO get fucked I care not what you think

              also stop assuming everyone disagreeing with you is a vegan I get most of my calories from meat and dairy but unlike you I'm conscious of the fact I should eat more fruits and veg

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is bullshit though? Almost no livestock globally has been engineered, it's a western phenomenon. Thousands of societies have lived on ONLY meat and or fish for thousands of years. I mean why would you think this is rare? The most famous examples are the Mongols, the Inuits and the Masai, in 3 completely different locations. But in reality indigenous diets anywhere in the world were animal based there's a lot of research on it and famously there's the Weston Price stuff. Indigenous Swiss for example lived on dairy and meat for most of the year and had perfect dental health when studied.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >what is selective breeding

                all your other shit is BS, Inuits are outliers, Masai and Mongols engaged in agriculture - its literally impossible to sustain a large population without staple foodstuffs

                historically access to meat was not secure, thanks for modern agriculture you can buy in it the shops for cheap but THAT is a modern phenomenon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >muh outliers

                Dude. Shut the fuck up and read a book for once in your life. You are getting your information from a fucking app for god's sake. Those apps weigh phytonutrients equal to animal nutrients, which is nonsensical, their idea of nutritional balance is completely arbitrary and not based on science, and you're posting this stuff like it's some kind of authority?

                I'm not here to show you anything, and would actually be a fool to even attempt to explain something that even a fucking log on the ground should see on their own (aka why a balanced diet is superior).

                I'm simply here to tell you that both the veg haters and the meat haters are two sides of the same coin and will eventually be eradicated because of their delusions.

                You don't want to admit that modern vegetables are alien to our diet. You believe in a false equivalence between veg and meat. It's all very dishonest. At the very least you should admit that vegetables should be fermented to be consumed and in as close to their wild form as possible. Wild plants are lower in calories and higher in phytonutrients (still inferior to animal nutrients).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yikes... Never heard of the Inuits or Masai? Maybe uh idk the Mongol horde? Big claims, no facts. Plenty of peoples have subsisted on animal diets and some trounced those they were near.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                sorry, do you actually think the mongols army didn't eat grains? serious question

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                After they captured china sure. Was it a grain base or even a staple as they were still conquering? lolno

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would the mongols carry grain with them over thousands of miles when they could eat their animals and get way more nutrient density? Grain is heavy and nutritionally empty.

                Grain diets were mostly an agricultural peasant thing, the Mongols were a throwback to pre-agricultural people both in terms of diet and physicality (humans were much bigger, more robust, taller and larger in brain volume as hunter-gatherers).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not to any significant degree before 200BCE as shows the stable isotope data of bone collagen

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based. Keep making vegtards seethe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i've been ketovore/carnivore for almost a year, and i can also attest to the digestion thing and not farting.
      my family, in particular my mother - is running about her house coughing up flem constantly, basically screaming to get it out because of a "thyroid" issue and farting once an hour, some horrible putrid gas.
      she thinks she "eats healthy and in moderation" despite putting on like 20kg in the last 2 years.
      eating the way i do and taking a step back to just look at people and see how they act, behave and just their physical state. such a fucking redpill.
      the overwhelming majority of people are sick, and it is their diet.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    can fad diet cunts FUCK OFF

    eat a balanced diet chiefly composed of whole foods and don't let yourself get memed by carnivore evangelists

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >enters carnivore thread
      >complains about carniposting

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm generally frustrated that IST has become infested with schizos peddling nonsense

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          tell that to people itt who benefitted from it, you should try to help them if you think they're doing a meme diet that will harm them

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >see a turd of a thread on my board
        >address it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >REEEEEEEE
          >eat muh balanced diet
          >my work here is done

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >balanced diet
      >complains about meme diets

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh look another "balanced diet" moron. Balance of what, real food to modern garbage?

      To get complete nutrition requires a near carnivorous diet. There's no other way to do it. You need quite a significant amount of animal fats and of course quite a lot of animal protein. You aren't getting any of that nutrition from vegetables. You've been conned by 20th century marketing to think that highly profitable garbage like kale and oats are nutritious and you're displacing valuable animal nutrition with crap like that in the misguided belief that you're eating a "balanced diet".

      >enters carnivore thread
      >complains about carniposting

      These threads always get triggered vegtards desperately clinging to their fad diets and pseudoscience.

      >Plants are garbage

      Your brain is truly failing you.

      Plants are empty calories at best and toxic corporate poison at worst. It's a terrible con to make people believe that the unavailable phytonutrients in plants can be substituted for animal nutrients. It's caused so many deaths.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >To get complete nutrition requires a near carnivorous diet. There's no other way to do it. You need quite a significant amount of animal fats and of course quite a lot of animal protein. You aren't getting any of that nutrition from vegetables. You've been conned by 20th century marketing to think that highly profitable garbage like kale and oats are nutritious and you're displacing valuable animal nutrition with crap like that in the misguided belief that you're eating a "balanced diet".

        completely and utterly detached from reality, wouldn't even know where to start

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        You will post body or leave.

        three (you)s. picrel

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks. Glad you found something that works for you. This works for us. You can go now.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't know where to start because you don't have a fucking clue about nutrition, evidenced from that HUGE GUNT OF FERMENTING CRAP in your pic lmao. I actually went carnivore originally out of frustration at distention and bloat from eating a "balanced" bro diet (in reality a malnourished plant based diet that caused digestion issues).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This has to be a larp. I refuse to believe you can't see how retarded your statement is.

        Plants are poison , how exactly?
        The longest living groups of people in the world eat a balanced diet full of fruit and veggies and meats.
        The longest living people and healthiest people in the world are absolutely NOT carnivores, enough said.

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        You will post body or leave.

        What does my body have to do with eating healthy and moderate amounts of anything?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Another vegtard who looks like shit. And now they're busting out the Cowspiracy bullshit.

          The longest living people eat the most meat. Hong Kong, most red meat in the world, longest living. Longest living in Europe, most meat. Americans eat only 11% of calories from animals. You're repeating braindead vegan propaganda like it still convinces anyone. We can see what happens to people who go vegan - they suffer. We can see what happens to people who try carnivore - they prosper. Why are you subhumans so triggered by this diet? It's very revealing.

          Me at 40, without drugs or supplements, I maintain this bodyfat year round. I could never maintain this sort of bodyfat eating a "bro diet". So why are you telling me how to eat? Like I'd want to be anything like you or your digestive-issues friend?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay so you're a 40 year old moron that acts like a 21 year old and doesn't look like anything special.

            We can see you're not even capable of handling a conversation at 40, much less give any sort of thought to your retarded carnivore ideas.

            Truly, you're a weird fucking person and look like utter shit lol

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              C-can you post your toes up close? I wanna see that pretty nail polish you have on better

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't really have a close up of those colors and I need to touch up my nails and repaint or I would post current.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Btw the longest living groups of people live in the blue zones, and they eat everything. This is just one thing that you got wrong (among many others)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >blue zones
              I haven't engaged in diet discussion in years, and I'm not the guy you replied to, but holy shit I can't believe you retards are still citing that garbage. Its like that Hitler quote where he describes arguing with garden gnomes. Even after he gets them to admit defeat they're back the next day saying the same old shit and denying they were ever proven wrong.

              Gradually...

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Blue zones as a concept is propaganda and largely nonsensical. Much has been written about this lie but in general; Okinawan - pork based diet. Pigs were all killed in WW2 and a study of their diet was done shortly after that which is misleading. Sicily, very much animal based, like all meditteranean diets. Ask anyone from the region they will laugh at this notion that they are vegetarians. One of the most animal food heavy regions in Europe.

              The only genuinely vegetarian "blue zone" is Loma Linda, which isn't actually healthy at all and has a high incidence of modern diseases. Dr Ted Naiman actually came from working in that blue zone institution (Loma Linda) and has talked extensively about it. They seem to be something of a health cult that has normalised chronic disease and convinced itself that it's vegetarian diet is some sort of health panacea.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody here said vegetarian diets.

                It's called BALANCED for a reason, because they're healthy and not tied to one side.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you must have a balance between right and wrong
                Fuck off. You call it "balanced" because that's your propaganda.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The closest suitable name for eating food in a reasonable manner that allows for full diversity of micronutrients and vitamins/minerals - would be called BALANCED. Balanced with meats, veg and fruit. Almost everybody already knows this except fatfucks and other fad diet gay adherents like carnivore or keto.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                A diet of red meat and water is perfectly balanced.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Except one of the side of that balance is toxins you absolute mongoloid.
                Just because some people are resilient to a retarded "balanced" diet for the first 40~50 years of their life if they properly calorie restrict doesn't mean it's good for you.

                The only point of doing true carnivore is to mitigate some kind of allergy or autoimmune disorder. The "healthiest" diet depends a lot on body composition and training/activity habits, but animal protein should be a large percentage of the calories for most people, perhaps 50% or more.

                You do realise that 70% or more of the food comming from flesh is the textbook definition of carnivore, right?

                I'm not here to show you anything, and would actually be a fool to even attempt to explain something that even a fucking log on the ground should see on their own (aka why a balanced diet is superior).

                I'm simply here to tell you that both the veg haters and the meat haters are two sides of the same coin and will eventually be eradicated because of their delusions.

                >I'm not here to show you anything
                Because you fucking can't
                The whole "balanced diet" argument falls out of the fucking windows the moment the Randle cycle is mentioned you absolute cunt.
                If you have nothing useful to say then fuck right off you goofy prick.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You keep saying toxins

                You don't know what the fuck a toxin is.

                Just shut the fuck up you sound like a literal robot reading psudeoscience from Shawn Baker Instagram

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >blue zones
              The common factors linking blue zones are remoteness, spotty record-keeping, poverty, crime, and lower average life expectancy. The age records of the vast majority of "supercentenarians" either were mishandled or are fraudulent.
              >be 40 year old poorfag in tiny village
              >look like you're 60 from poverty lifestyle
              >dad dies at 65, only just began collecting his pension
              >falsify records to show you died instead of him
              >nobody ever checks because you live in bumfuck nowhere
              >continue collecting dad's pension for 40 years
              Wa la, you are now a "supercentenarian".

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I’m Greek. We eat plenty of red meat, pig, chicken, organ meats, fish. A LOT of grilled or oven made food.
              Buffalo, Turkey, Swordfish, Lamb(!), you name it. The most standard salad (what we call Farmers salad, that’s “Greek salad” for foreigners), is comprised of low sugar fruits: tomato, cucumber (peeled because the skin is toxic), green pepper without seeds (because seeds are also toxic and taste like complete shit), olives, and red onion (one from the allium family). The potato was not native to the region nor the tomato. These are modern adoptions. Bread was consumed before but it was ALWAYS sourdough and mixed with wine (wine in ancient times was also watered down before consumption because drinking it raw was uncouth and barbaric). Modern frying with foreign non olive-based oils and less physical activity and the muttification post Ottoman Empire has brought with it a bunch of shit.
              Anyway, barely anyone eats lentils. That is for poor people that live on the street.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Blue zone studies were done in 70s. Times have changed. Now you indeed are one of the fattest people in Europe. Thanks for sharing how it happened. Lot of meat. Got it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Blue zone studies were done in 70s.
                I didn’t ask when the studies were made
                >Times have changed. Now you indeed are one of the fattest people in Europe.
                Not related. Most obese people are in Athens eating tons of fried food and not being active enough because of the heat (before the air used to flow a lot better in Attica prior to all the shit buildings that were erected after the WW2). The fattest and poorest people are the muttified brown ones that aren’t even native to the land. Since time immemorial, the classes have been divided in Athens and modern cooking allows for this difference to be a lot more visible through garbage oils and insulin spiking bread. I’m Ancient Greece, slaves were not allowed to eat meat. I think that’s quite telling.
                >Thanks for sharing how it happened. Lot of meat. Got it.
                You’re a cherry-picking low IQ gay who can’t swallow the fact that he’s wrong. I don’t really care if you get convinced immediately or not. I don’t even know you. But you are making a fool out of yourself I’ll tell you that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh it's the same skinny fat retard who took 3 years to recomp that was shitting up the /fast/ threads. I knew it'd be you again shitting on "fad" diets that work.

          For anyone who's interested this gay thinks he's an expert on weight loss, health, and fitness because he used to be a skinny fat DYEL. He thinks fatasses that are 100+ lbs over weight should eat at 500 calorie deficit and recomp over 10 years instead of just fasting for a few months.

          Despite many anons giving anecdotal evidence and posting body that they succeeded in losing massive amounts of weight in short periods of time WITHOUT yo-yoing, he continues to shit on "fad" diets that actually work. He is probably the veganschizo that never stops crying about keto.

          Also instead of just renaming his body pics in his phone, he always screenshots them like some autist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Found some more pics of this fag. Literally autistic and gay as fuck.

            [...]

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            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's just some gay that stole my pics, whatever that collage is , is just some retarded larper acting as me ( a literal who) for some reason. And I'm not being ironic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Plants are garbage

      Your brain is truly failing you.

      >takes exogenous testosterone
      >natty

      pick one

      I'm generally frustrated that IST has become infested with schizos peddling nonsense

      You will post body or leave.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What would happened if someone tried bulking on a carnivore diet?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Practically impossible to not put on muscle eating mostly meat.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The animal-based diet is the least inflammatory diet.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vegtards getting bodied ITT

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can confirm after having tried evry diet out there, eating all animal foods is by far the best feeling. Everything that's said about no bloating, no farting, not needing to clean one's teeth as often, it's all true. The results speak clearly. We're meant to eat animals and things that come from them.

    I love fermented veggies with my meat, though. Mmmm. Saurkraut.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All meat is fine and a central part of your diet but so are most vegetables.

    Vegetable haters and meat haters will be pitted again one another, after which the balanced-diet master race will clean up the pieces.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ok, show me where are the lectins, anti-nutrients, sugars, fibers, phytoestrogens, natural insecticides, oxalates, peptides in meat?
      That's right, all that garbage is meat-specific! Wowsies! almost as if plant food wasn't food but garbage!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not here to show you anything, and would actually be a fool to even attempt to explain something that even a fucking log on the ground should see on their own (aka why a balanced diet is superior).

        I'm simply here to tell you that both the veg haters and the meat haters are two sides of the same coin and will eventually be eradicated because of their delusions.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >if that saurkraut works
    Fermented is basically predigested. Best way to eat most foods, really. Not taxing on the body, and higher in nutrients. I ferment liver every now and then too. Disgusting, but it feels good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Historically plants would ONLY be consumed fermented. Indigenous diets all over the world were animal based but with fermented vegetables. There aren't really examples of indigenous societies eating whole plant foods raw, because it was incredibly dangerous. The Mexican tribes for example would dip potatoes in CLAY to nullify the anti-nutrients because raw wild potatoes are so toxic they can kill you.

      The importance of fermentation is a big thing that western vegtards doesn't really understand when they bang on about "whole foods". The whole foods they eating have been engineered and bear no resemblance to any natural foods.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, all good points. When I first started getting into this stuff there was almost nobody on IST talking about it. I was considered a weirdo and would get swamped with "enjoy your heart disease!" clueless. Glad to see IST develop they way it has.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only point of doing true carnivore is to mitigate some kind of allergy or autoimmune disorder. The "healthiest" diet depends a lot on body composition and training/activity habits, but animal protein should be a large percentage of the calories for most people, perhaps 50% or more.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    are we posting body & diets now?

    I eat almost no meat because autism, can't handle the texture of almost anything that still resembles meat, most of my protein is from dairy and most of my diet is plants.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    countries known for consuming rice and pasta have the longest expectancy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >appeal to le common "knowledge" he's read on a blog
      Any single data point to back that up, fag?
      You don't because the ricemorons get diabetes too. They just tend to get less fat because they didn't have to survie the constant warring middle ages.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >japan, italy
        what are these countries known for?
        and honk kong has a 1kg of rice consumed per capita

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          1kg of rice per week

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do it.
    It just works.

    I only eat beef, eggs, and some Greek yogurts. I'm healthier than I ever was.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    carnivore diet for 5 months here-few notes -
    >helped me go from 104kg->80kg (22,male,5'10)
    > not only retained, but gained a lot of muscle while in calorie deficit
    >not noticed any health issues
    >i eat 0 processed food. seriously, go to a farmers market you sissies holy shit
    >downside ive noticed is that my sex drive is just vanished, i masturbate once a week now instead of the porn addict once a day
    >downside -home cooking can get annoying. theres only so many cuts of meat,and Hispanices to go with,and healthy ways to cook. use lard or tallow, and butter. stop using that palm oil bullshit.eat eggs,cheese, milk, fish
    >i dont remember what it feels like to feel hungry or have "cravings"
    >disadvantage-salt. youre going to be eating a lot of it. check your cholesterol and blood sugar every now and then
    >tip-learn how to cut and store chicken.BTW the entrails and pearl are a nutrition bomb

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >disadvantage-salt. youre going to be eating a lot of it. check your cholesterol and blood sugar every now and then
      Nonsense, there is no such thing as too much salt. Worst case scenario is you get thirsty.
      Blood sugar? on a carni diet? unless you got some genetic problem nope.
      Check cholesterol? what for? it doesn't indicate anything relevant to your health.
      Next thing you know you're gonna worry about meme shit like A1C too.
      >tip-learn how to cut and store chicken
      Or just fast.
      >BTW the entrails and pearl are a nutrition bomb
      Sure, not needed at all though, but whatever floats your boat.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with globohomo science is that they look at "processed" meats and use that as a reason as to "why meat is bad". If you look at studies that compare processed and unprocessed you'll see a completely different picture. The unprocessed meats even have anti-inflammatory and cancer-protective effects.

    I tried it for a few months and it is the least inflammatory diet I've ever been on. Joint pain gone, no itchy skin, easiest breathing ever in my life due to clear sinuses.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Question for carnivores

    I've gone through periods of strict carnivore diet and other experiments in what I eat (adding cheese, honey, regular meals with carbs, etc). I've seen a lot of good progress with carnivore diet, but I've noticed my body odor tends to get worse during it.

    Is this normal or is something else at work? Any tips?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never had that happen to me, but then again I have to not shower for 2 weeks straight to start stinking so maybe genetics? If anything my fart stink a lot less on carni.

      Also you have to realise that it takes at least 3 months for a diet change to have an impact. And you should change diets over at least 6 weeks, or you could be fucking up your gut microbiome something bad.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Massive amounts of nutrient imbalances and deficiencies that they try to distract you from by shoving vegans in your face. I had one guy tell me that salt takes care of all the nutrients that steak lacks and has massive amounts of proline and glycine (protein)

    They can get their heart attack, I don't care.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore has a bad rep nowadays, I like pulling the same verbal trick as veg*ns and calling it a whole foods animal based diet - which it is, I just really like doing memes. I'll eat some white rice and boiled potatoes for bulking, but otherwise nearly all of my calories come from animal sources. Feels good, man, GI troubles and joint pain are a thing of the past.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm getting mixed signals about meaty diets. Med gays have told me that consuming "too much" meat causes inflammation and have either warned about going over 100g/day of red meat or just consuming "too much" meat in general. I treat myself to one to two 8oz sirlions each week but otherwise keep myself to some chicken, tilapia and roughly 3 eggs per day. Also lift 4 times a week.
    >
    >What are your thoughts about meaty/carnivore diets, am I being duped here by globohomo science?
    If you can afford it, going on a steak/eggs/liver only diet for a month is a good way to slim right the fuck down. But long term it's not optimal.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont get it why americans feel the need to have the all or nothing mentality. Politics, economics and now even food lmao.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      When you're too fucking retarded to think your own thoughts and your brain-mush social media spews fad diets at you all day, it's the natural progression.
      America has the worst culture of social media addiction, but don't act like these people aren't everywhere.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is science conspiring to make ME consume less meat????????????????????
    the natural diet that humans followed for 99% of our existence is the hunter-gatherer diet. a grain-free plant-based diet with meat like once a week
    maybe, JUST MAYBE, our bodies evolved on this diet and this is why science has such findings about the over consumption of meat???

    protein fixation is a product of marketing and relevant only for enhanced professionals and the carnivore diet is the most retarded diet to ever exist, even worse than veganism

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hunter gatherer were gatherer that ate meat once a week
      Lmao imagine saying shit like this with a straight face
      Stable isotopes data shows that if anything prehistoric humans (that means before history, aka before writing was a thing, which coincides mostly to before agriculture was a thing) and proto humans ate mostly meat.
      The only stuff we'd gather were some low carb berries and highly fibrous tubers. Also seasons are a thing you mongoloid, there aren't fruits all year round, unless you're un the equator, which is why people of equatorial descent need up to 20% carbs in their diets to thrive. But bar that exception you don't need anything but meat, salt and water.

      Blue zone studies were done in 70s. Times have changed. Now you indeed are one of the fattest people in Europe. Thanks for sharing how it happened. Lot of meat. Got it.

      >Times have changed. Now you indeed are one of the fattest people in Europe. Thanks for sharing how it happened.
      It literally happened after WW2 when amerifats introduced carbs to them.
      You think they were growing rice before?
      Do you know the topology of their land? There are some place where they can't grow shit but some aromatic herbs, what do they eat there? Grilled cheese and meat. Greeks used to eat a fuckton more of pig and lamb meat, and a moderate ammount of fish.
      Also the myth that they ate lots and lots of olive oil is laughable.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest downside to carnivore is if you cheat on it you'll feel like shit.
    Been doing this for 2.5 years and cheating is like a 24h hangover.
    Also I'm probably giving myself some kind of vitamin or mineral deficiency.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    med diet is a gnomish scam, anytime I visited family in greece there was lots of meat and cheese and breads

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gauchos ate pretty much nothing but meat their whole lives. It’s not gonna kill you (or at least meat qua meat won’t — the meat you buy at the store is quite different from what the gauchos ate). Veggies are great too, though. We’re supposed to eat both.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Veggies are great too, though. We’re supposed to eat both.
      fruit maybe, not veggies

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no you better go tell most humans that have ever lived.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Most humans that ever lived ate bread too. But setting that aside, just because the majority of humans ate something doesn't mean it's good or necessary to eat it. Veggies are famine food at best.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore diet is perfect, just make sure u eat carbs as fruits/honey and eat a good Glycine/methathione ratio with gelatinous cuts and eat enough calcium by drinking raw milk ou eating egg shells.

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