Been doing it on and off for about a year.
(Can't refuse birthday cakes and such for obvious reasons)
I just recently was able to stop wearing glasses as my myopia is reversing by itself.
Now my allergic rhinitis that I've had for 6 years is gone.
My nose remains clear, I have not itching, no immune therapy was necessary.
I win.
SADoids and vegtards, keep coping. It works.
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>SADoids and vegtards, keep coping. It works.
You forgot to mention poorgays. I just don't do it because I can't afford all that high quality meat tbh.
you must be really poor then
i'd rather eat only minced meat, butter, frozen fish and eggs every single day than not do it tbh
what is your food budget like?
75$ a week
moron.
>75/7 = $10 a day
>a pound of ground beef is $5
>butter is dirt cheap
>eggs are too, I get 60 of them for $11 at costco
>scramble 6 eggs with 1 tbsp butter = $1.25
>grill 1 lb of 80/20 ground beef in pan = $5
>add salt and pepper to season for flavor = pennies
There. You have roughly 1500 calories a day with lots of change to spare to boost your caloric needs within your budget.
You have no excuse.
I can afford more than this off the fricking 5% interest I'm making passively in my savings account.
Ayo hol up so you be getting 5% in a savings account? That sounds pretty good. My CD is only just over that. I should really find a new bank.
All about online credit unions my famalam.
Thanks for the tip senpai
Right now interest rates are high so yeah.
Over the long term safe stock market investments like S&P500 average like 7% after considering inflation but idk if it's a good time to buy rn, haven't checked anything in ages.
Where I live a cheap chop costs around 9$/kg which is pretty affordable tbh, but this is only in poor immigrants-run areas and middle-eastern butcher's. In every other place the average price sits around 27$/kg which to this day I can't seem to understand this insane difference.
>muh organic environment-friendly fair-trade high quality label
MEAT IS MEAT.
>Verification not required.
same here, moved to a big city for work, nice neighbourhood but the supermarket meat and butcher prices are insane, getting all the meat i eat from the halal butcher, way cheaper, better cuts and quality, can't figure out why.
buy a strip loin from the market that you need to cut yourself, cut it into 1.5 inch slabs, then eat 1 a day in the morning. Thats what i did for one meal a day. never felt better. I ate it raw though, its easier on your system when its raw, if you know you know.
>raw
>one meal a day
that's straight up insanity
If you are fat, being a carnivore is way cheaper. Once your body adapts you are good to go with some meat and a couple of eggs.
Once you get thin then that is when it gets expensive.
You don't need high quality meat. You can do it for really cheap if you have to. Ground beef is really cheap and so is chicken.
>I just recently was able to stop wearing glasses as my myopia is reversing by itself.
That's funny. I've been doing carnivore periodically the past two years, and is getting my first new glasses in like seven/eight years, so I had a vision test done.
For the first time in my entire life am I getting glasses weaker than my current ones. Only by 0,5 points, but still.
Maybe I should pull myself together and just go full carnivore.
I'm already getting my meat from a local farm butchery, and my food expenses were lower in the periods I did pure carnivore than when doing keto.
I've been eating majority ground beef and eggs for two years, and I'm a total poorgay. It's doable.
How do I into this anon? Do I get 800g ground beef a day or what? When does the hunger go away?
I'm 5'8 around 60kg skinnyfat, fighting skin d
>fighting skin and nerve problems ffs.
Hate the post delay.
I don't count anything, and eat till satiety since it's pretty much impossible to overeat meat without carbs. I find that this usually puts me around 2lbs of beef and a couple eggs a day. For reference I'm the same height as you at 155lbs
eczema asthma and seasonal allergies all gone thanks to carnivore
Also based.
I will also share that my diabetes is in remission, my eczema is cleared, my Hasimoto's is in control, and I no longer feel the intense urge to binge on junkfood all thanks to carnivore.
>ACK
I'm here for a good time not a long time
Fricked up arteries doesn't always mean sudden cardiac arrest resulting in death but long term disability. Not trying to change your mind btw. You can eat only meat for all I care (I'm not a vegetarian)
>but Kelloggs told me that breakfast is the most important meal of the day and to eat sugar flakes for breakfast, so that's what I'm doing. I can trust them because they fund the surveys that I base all of my.opinions on and they give great health advice.
>oh look I have to eat cereal for dinner now. Thanks processed food manufacturers.
There is zero evidence to claim any connection between heart disease and red meat you absolute fricking spanner. Find a single randomised clinical trial to show me. Not fricking surveys or meta analysis of surveys. Actual randomised clinical trials. Oh wait, there aren't any.
Such a trial would be impossible to conduct ethically
many of them were conducted in the late 20th century but they get ignored because they show seed oils are no better than saturated fats and maybe toxic
The conclusion was that:
chloesterol = muh bad vessels
sneed oils lowering cholesterol = muh good vessels
Of course none of the wannabe scientists paid any attention to the molecular mechanism behind this and just based their entire understanding on poor associational data.
Surprise, surprise - phytosterols in seed oils lower cholesterol by interfering with cholesterol receptors and low cholesterol is actually more deadly than high cholesterol.
Almost like it's needed for something, you know, like testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, aldosterone, cortisol and vitamin D production.
If seed oils are good for you, then so are statins in the water supply.
Some of these people here should really google healthy user bias...
>b-but someone in the 60s said fats based on nothing.
>but Harvard scientists who admitted to being paid by processed food Manufacturers said that fat is bad based on nothing.
>it has to be true right?
You're a moron and should have a nice day.
my CAC score is zero. try again gay
blood clots
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246
tl;dr veg oil morons died quicker than meatheads
Why did Ancel Keys hid this data?
Accurate only in that picrel indicates you serve me.
Based fellow carnivore.
wait myopia gets cured by meat?
yes and nofap also lets you read minds
Did two months of carnivore. Everything worker better.
Then I went to live with my parents because sickness and got back to the SAD diet.
Yeah, my sight got worse a few days later.
Gonna go it again. I want to be lean for my birthday. Wagmi
happy birthday anon
i still have time until my birthday.
30 pounds in more than two months.
is doable anons?
How much more
>is doable anons?
yes
are you lifting?
That's ~8-16 pounds if you do a standard 500/1000 kcal deficit.
If you fast for a week you'll easily lose 16 pounds alone.
Just do rolling 48h fasts the next two months.
Could it have something to do with pre-diabetes in the eyes, and the carnivore diet reversing that? At least in my country it's pretty normal for the optician to also check for that when doing a vision test.
Would a carnivore + fermented foods diet be optimal?
I used to make kefir at home.
I don't know if it did much health-wise though I think it helped me change my dietary patterns.
It's probably the best probiotic you can have.
First taste was horrible - next sip days after, my body had adapted and I just instantly craved it.
Very interesting experience.
But I've since stopped drinking it.
Too much work, too much sugar and too much alcohol for my liking.
Once in a while I'll have a crappy store-bought one.
People know about gluten, but not about the laxative/irritating effect of fiber, they don't know about lectin, casein, not about all the little antinutrients, all of which can cause some people issues.
Carnivore eliminates it all, improving digestion and satiety - it delivers tons of protein, tons of important fats, tons of vitamins and minerals, on top of that you have no questionable plant compounds, no heavily processed foods and it can also be ketogenic.
No other diet can deliver like this.
My myopia was caused by sitting in front of a screen for long time periods.
Supposedly your eye has the capacity to remodel from UV light and focus training.
There are some ape studies where it happens quite rapidly too.
As for why it only happened after carnivore for me, I have no clue.
>As for why it only happened after carnivore for me, I have no clue.
maybe because your blood is thinner and you know have all the necessary building blocks to do it. I read on r/zerocarb (yes yes) that some people have complained about old scars starting to hurt and people theorised that your body starts to heal again because now you have everything you need to do it properly.
women also reported that their boobs grew and hips get wider, basically second puberty.
it's wild 😀
what is that supposed to be inside the arteries? looks yummy
On my second month of carnivore now, but no results at all yet. Pretty much just eating grass fed beef every day. Any tips?
Add more fat. Much more fat. A stick of butter (4 oz. of your fat of choice if not butter) per pound of beef
Hmm, I’ve been trying to avoid dairy… Would it completely defeat the purpose of doing carnivore (for health reasons) to add in something like macademia nuts? If so, I’ll add in dairy.
If you're avoiding dairy, eat 4 oz of beef tallow per 1 lb of beef you cook to eat. This will get you into the range that has the highest healing reports from carnivores.
Try some organ meats, eat more fat, like butter or lard, try a fast or light exercise to boost ketosis.
Hairline has always been shit ever since I was a kid since I have a huge head, but it's static and stable, in fact, my hair has grown thicker and stronger.
Workouts are all fine. I tend to ache more and hurt less. It's a really good feeling and I've been advancing quite quickly.
Also I feel like the entire idea of glycogen repletion from sugar is a lie - I feel repleted even when I eat no sugar and I'd bet money that's exactly what you'd find if you tested keto-adapted athletes - glycogen repletion after eating only meat.
Btw., since you asked for it:
https://doi.org/10.2147%2FIJGM.S333004
https://doi.org/10.1093/cdn/nzab133
http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bmjnph-2022-000544
https://doi.org/10.1519/jsc.0000000000001935
https://doi.org/10.1093/milmed/usz046
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.xcrm.2023.101324
https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-023-06749-3
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psychres.2024.115866
Mind you, there are a LOT more and a lot of very recent ones. But they are not hard to look up, so I will leave it up to you.
Low-fiber diets are also frequently used to treat gut issues and eliminating certain plant foods can help people with autoimmune diseases. That's extremely mainstream knowledge.
It just so happens that the carnivore diet does this both while also being able to be ketogenic and providing tons of nutrients, many of which are fairly lacking in most vegetables.
But you'd rather just dismiss it because there is no proper clinical trial yet, while the people you trod after do everything in their power to prevent a clinical trial.
Just get some vitamin C effervescents if you are scared.
I've heard that vitamin C is supposed to be anti-ketogenic, but I am not sure if this is true.
I don't think it would matter either way.
>spam random studies none which prove that miracle cures reported by anonymous online shills happen on carnivore diet
Bro are you even trying? Or are you stupid? Illiterate? Mentally ill? All of those,
Let's go through this very simply.
You will not find trials about allergy or myopia reversal with any diet.
Maybe some correlations with nutrient intakes at best. Maybe some elimination diets for food allergies.
It doesn't matter. If you are asking for that kind of data to believe that the diet can improve peoples health, then you are simply naive and moronic.
And if you go carnivore purely to try to reverse myopia, then maybe you are also moronic.
And if you think that general health is not at all related with health stressors like autoimmune disease, poor digestion and metabolic health, then you are probably also moronic.
As for general health, we know that a carnivor diet can help with autoimmune issues, digestion, metabolic disease, diabetes, as well as mental health. That's simply the merit of it being a 0-fiber, ketogenic elimination diet.
You didn't hear from me how I lost tons of weight and how my health and mental health have dramatically improved because that's the clear expected effect from the beginning. Making a thread about it makes no sense.
Now feel free to cry and call me a shill and a liar.
Plenty of people have similar experiences and they know better, that's good enough for me.
I'm happy with being able to smell spring air and I'll just point out that poor general health and diet put you at risk for anything from acne and exzema, over allergy and autoimmune disease to hair loss, cancer, crohns and obesity.
It doesn't take much to imagine that improving one might improve the other.
Deal with that how you will. I don't care.
>pictures, videos, diaries and patient testimony documenting weight loss, remission of auto immune disease, hair growth, etc. don't count since it's not summarized in le journal
>every doctor arguing for it online is also just a shill
>people who talk about it online in general are just all shills
You will never believe what you don't want to believe, no matter the evidence.
>don’t eat gluten
>skin clears up and I take solid shots that are clean and require no wiping (besides the safety check)
>eat gluten again
>shit 5 times the next day and it’s all tacky
>eat mcgoyslop the day after
>nose turns red as frick again and pimples develop
I think it’s time to fully commit to no gluten, and maybe just go full carni while I’m at it
Get tested for food allergies bro. I figured out my wheat allergy through trial and error but missed the several other foods causing me issues. Although I guess going carnivore would eliminate any culprits anyway...
Started carnivore 45 days ago. I basically only eat steak, eggs, liver, chicken, fish roe, fish, cheese, butter.
I lost 5-6 kg (79 --> 73 kg) (5'10"), my psoriasis has gotten better, my acne got much clearer, I have more energy throughout the day. My body and face is much less "puffy" or bloated. No issues in the stool (>muh fiber). Never been better.
I plan on doing this for at least 3 months, then seeing if I would like to modify it a bit (e.g. add a little bit of fruit or rice) or keep at it.
It's worth transitioning to animal-based if you don't have issues with clean carbs like fruit, honey, maple syrup, dairy
should I be eating raw steak or just seared on the outside?
Seared is tastier
fizeek?
Funny how carnivore diet is marketed only with anonymous miracle anecdotes while that same hoax has existed for about a hundred years (Stefansson, Drinking Man's Diet etc..) and no verified miracle cures exist after all that time. Not even verified case studies. Not a single one. Let alone population level confirmation. People believing shills like OP wake up.
What? Do you know what a case study is?
Lowest level of scientific evidence. No meaty miracle healings reliably documented ever anywhere.
You honestly have full faith in your belief in that? You should test your faith and do a google search. Hell, do a google search on those people you mentioned yourself. You won't, because you don't care about health, you're just a deranged pearl-clutching vegan.
All that does it look for cases that confirm what you want them to confirm. You're just looking for more echo chambers.
ok.
now show me your gums
https://youtube.com/shorts/LK6L6Fq-A2U?si=CC-12kVqYRrTxkOQ
wow, I have been debunked by a talking head shill in a yt short video!
guess my own experience is invalidated...
https://youtube.com/shorts/VgYZEuXqqig?si=953gafaw-PNBOy9e
nah, i aint clicking your shit
post gums instead
?si=b1UuRBhdctJ9Fuin
Keto diets increase glutathione concentrations and meat does contain vitamin C, mainly dehydroascorbic acid, which is more absorbable than ascorbic acid.
It also happens to be able to cross the blood-brain barrier and the mitochondrial membranes.
Glutathione is used to reduce dehydroascorbic acid back to ascorbic acid.
What all this means is that your vitamin C requirements increase dramatically as carbohydrate consumption goes up.
Do note that native Americans were known to consume elk thymus to boost their vitamin C.
Note also, that sailors in times past often did not develop scurvy for months, while others developed it after weeks.
This has to do with the fact that the salted pork they carried had enough vitamin C in it to prevent scurvy.
When it ran out their only food source was hardtack, which had no vitamin C, but rapidly depleted it.
That said, it's not difficult to supplement vitamin C if you are worried and if you happen to be subclinically deficient, you will notice a change after a few days.
I highly recommend against megadosing it like some people advertise, though, as that could in theory cause damage to your kidneys.
In fact, vitamin C supplementation is advisable for everyone on a SAD diet, as our modern fruits are so sweet and depleted nowadays that you have to eat quite a lot of them to satisfy your demands.
This takes up space and massively raises your total sugar consumption - in other words they force you to overeat macros in order to satisfy micro needs, as is the case with many other modern foods.
There is plenty of data that speaks for efficacy of low-carb and ketogenic diets.
Also, last time Shawn Baker tried to get a carnivore vs. vegan clinical trial rolling tons of doctors spoke out and called it "unethical", even though plenty of people already practice the diet.
I call that cowardish bs. They know it would destroy them.
Shawn baker is diabetic.
So you admit that you're less healthy, weaker, and dumber than a diabetic? Because Shawn Baker will always be superior in these qualities compared to you.
Imagine simplong this hard for someone. Wow.
Imagine lifting less than an elderly man and coping this hard wow
Do you lift more than him?
Wait, are you the skinnyfat anon who says you need carbs to lift. Why can't you outlift Dr. Baker? He doesn't eat your "fuel"
>won't answer the question that dismantles the argument
Classic
His fasting insulin was 2.6 mIU/L It is physiologically impossible to be "diabetic" (a condition of hyperinsulinemia) and simultaneously exquisitely sensitive to insulin that your basal insulin is so low. Hyperinsulinemia and diabetes (type 2) go hand in hand, you cannot have one without the other because they are two names for the same metabolic disorder.
>b-b-b-but his blood sugar.
An athlete competing to break records with extreme intensity HIIT. He is physiologically adapted to his lifestyle by maintaining an elevated blood glucose for those efforts. It takes time to mobilize energy from the liver. This glucose sparing phenomena is cropping up all over the place in low carb athletes competing at all levels to varying degrees.
My fasting insulin for the better part of 4 years has been in the range of 3.1-3.4, (except for a single test taken a week before my father died and I wasn't sleeping and under a ton of stress; 7+) My fasting glucose is ~105 on average 3 hours after waking up. Last November I fell off a ladder at work and fricked up my ankle so bad I was in a boot for 4 weeks. I stopped my HIIT for 3 months to ensure I didn't reinjure it while doing rehab. After only 2 weeks of stopping HIIT my fasting glucose precipitously dropped to 65-67. I made no other changes to my diet. Within 2 weeks of resuming HIIT my glucose was back to 100.
Diabetes is just late stage hyperinsulinemia. If there's no hyperinsulinemia there is nobdiabetes.
>9000 words
Yeah Didnt read. I'm only going by his own records he released.
And his fasting insulin is 2.6. Fricking diabetics are not exquisitely sensitive to insulin you fricking moron
>insulin
dude, you can't expect anybody on IST knowing anything about insulin or even insulin resistance for that matter, that would break their whole thermodynamics world view.
give them another 20 years 😀
i applaud your efforts though
Dude look at his A1c you tard. That is in the pre-diabetic range, and .2 away from diabetic
People simp for Baker like no tomorrow idk why
That's literally iron overload. The convention ferritin ranges are bullshit.
>person with eating disorder is unhealthy
Yeah makes sense
>Carnivore here
Thanks for telling us your mental illness upfront
Very brave OP, hope you get better soon
This image has an antidepressant effect. Well done, OP. Your body is thanking you.
Zero carbs? How is your hairline and workouts? Unironical question
>carnivore threads barely get bumped
Why did this diet died so fat bros?
the same mentally ill trannies come in and make the threads unbareable.
>nu IST is now so full of Indians that the consensus is meat is unhealthy and candy is good for you
Pic related is still alive btw :^)
reminds of the threads on "how come oldschool bodybuilders have such flat stomachs"
well because there is nothing rotting in there and the guts aren't inflamed 🙂
I hate the modern swollen ogre look so much
raw heavy cream everyday, we have to go back
and it was probably raw milk, delivered to your door as well. good times
I want to try this diet but I’m scared of scurvy,hair loss and no vitamin c
Why don't you include some fruit and sauerkraut, no carnichud is going to arrest you for wrongthink and put you in a vaccination detention center :^)
Scurvy is not a concern. If it was the inuit would all be toothless and dying.
It was well known before the discovery of ascorbic acid, that eating fresh meat was a cure to scurvy. There's even an account of an expedition in the arctic where the ship got stuck in the ice. Pretty soon all of them started showing signs of scurvy. Some of the men abandoned the ship and went to live with the indigenous people. The others stayed. When they were rescued those that managed to survive on the ship were described as walking ghouls. The men who abandoned all survived. They recovered fully from their scurvy within the weeks after eating all meat and blubber with the inuit.
Vitamin C is used in the biosynthesus of collagen. Considering you'll be eating between 2-3 pounds of flesh per day loaded with collagen that biological requirement goes down.
Secondly, fresh beef muscle,per the USDA FoodData Central, has 9.4mg of vitamin C per 100g, yielding 85mg per day on a 2lb per day diet.
Thirdly, vitamin C competes for cellular uptake with glucose using the GLUT-4 transporter. When on a very carb restricted diet your metabolism has a very high fat flux within your body. Any cell with mitochondria capable of taking up fat will be repleat with energy flux into the mitochondria. The Randal cycle will kick in and citrate will be kicked out of the mitochodria saturating the cytoplasm locking out the insulin receptors on the outer cellular membrane. When these receptors are locked out the glut-4 transporters will not accept glucose for uptake. Ascorbic acid will however passively diffuse through the membrane with quite literally zero competion from glucose. This further reduces the vitamin C requirements by reducing the serum concentration required to compete for transporter access.
There is some evidence that vitamin C requirements on a zero carbohydrate diet are on the micrograms to nanogram level per day compared to the 80+milligrams per day you're getting from the diet.
>Vitamin C is used in the biosynthesus of collagen. Considering you'll be eating between 2-3 pounds of flesh per day loaded with collagen that biological requirement goes down.
Never looked at it this way
How do I even eat 2k calories of meat? Is oj allowed?
2000 calories?!?
I eat 2.5lbs of ribeye every day, 3300 calories, and that's using nutrition data for a ribeye cut to a paltry 1/4" fat cap.
>dude trust me
Well I eat glass everyday and it cured my cancer, boosted my test levels by 346% and completely removed my need for sleep, unlimited energy,
0 x 3.46 is still 0
lol
Sounds like glasslet cope
Bit too crunchy and hard for your weak homosexualy teeth consooming soft sloppy meat all the time?
What if the basis of my diet meat, eggs, and diary but I also eat many fruits some green vegetables, do the latter harm me? Also, what about eating processed meat occasionally?
>processed meat occasionally'
its a junk food, its not great. could be worse.'
>I also eat many fruits some green vegetables, do the latter harm me?'
depends on the person, what plants specifically, and how strong your digestive system is. If you have a chronic illness you might want to get serious about it but otherwise it might not be worth it.
The primary benefit to carnivore is that it provides all of the nutrition your body requires to develop and maintain lean healthy tissue without creating a metabolic state that is driven by insulin.
Insulin controls far FAR more than your blood sugar and having chronically elevated levels of insulin throughout the day through diet or metabolic disorder is the primary driver of disease.
The most easily accessible assessment of your metabolic health is your fasting insulin level (tested 12 hours after your last meal), and your Trig:HDL ratio. Fasting insulin should be no higher than 5. If you're eating lots of fruits and veggies and your fasted insulin is 3.5, and your trigs are low and hdl is high, then you're metabolically healthy regardless of what you're eating. Just be aware that how you're eating can accumulate over time so these are data points you need to monitor over the years.
I was rice, chicken, broccoli, gym, bike, walk everywhere. I was "healthy". But my body fat was getting hard to control. Insulin 10.7. That's not good. Meanwhile my brother who drives a truck overnights who lives on cold cuts, wonder bread, and gas station food with a mountain dew chaser, and whose most vigorous exercise is fricking his wife or mowing the lawn while drinking beer has maintained a fasting insulin of 4 over the 6 years since I became interested in this topic.
6 months after adopting carnivore my fasting insulin was coming back 3.2. When I added vegetables back it started climbing again over the next year.
I'm damaged in some way that plant products so seriously affect my mitochondria that my metabolism becomes deranged in short order.
i tried to do strict carnivore for an year and ate around 1.5 to 2 lbs of red meat every single day and from what i noticed was that my lift significantly decreased and energy levels lowered. i've added medjool dates, honey, bananas and milk back to my diet and i feel significantly better and have way more energy in the gym.
>Carnivore here
bolshe
How do you get that fat and still have shitty legs?
Literally sitting on your ass for 16 hours a day.
>Can't refuse birthday cakes and such for obvious reasons
ngmi