Carnivores want you to believe that the left image is unhealthy and will kill you and the right is healthy and will cure your ailments
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Normal people will balance both out with a consistent method.
Cope
Normal people aren't healthy though. "Balance" is a logical fallacy anyway, no species eats a balance they eat what they are adapted to eat and nothing else. You've been suckered by food corp marketing.
Fact of the matter is that if you only ate the left image you would get sick. If you only ate the right you would be fine. Dunno why this fact makes people seethe so much, 100 years ago this was common knowledge.
Normal people dont try to justify eating one single food only
Ketoschizos think vitamins are a joke. You'd die moron, and sooner than your clogged arteries kill you.
>You'd die
Just like people were going to die if they don't get the experimental mRNA injections.
Leftists always use death threats to try and get people to do what they want.
I was only commenting on living on bacon only. Scurvy is well documented. But go ahead and do it. I don't care.
>diabetic
>lost medical license
>low test
Lol
Nice try, vegan.
You've literally probed his point. He got it back when he stopped trying to sell meat to his patients. Hmm what a surprise, someone involved in scamming people under the table gets consequences
Does getting attacked by the establishment make people less credible?
>Shows evidence that what he said was correct
>tries to act like its somehow a win
Kek
>ignored the facts that hes got low test and is diabetic
>tries to spin the fact that he lost his license and falls
>shows that baker is an emotional twitter bully
Epic wins all around
>pivots to unrelated topic when he loses
Concession accepted!
>low test
Oh no not muh numbers on muh piece of paper.
I will go plant-based immediately. Thank you plant merchant!
>lower test than a vegan
Ooooooof
>Ooooooof
>Epic wins all around
>Concession accepted!
>If you only ate the right you would be fine
Really now? Why is shawn baker diabetic? Why is his test in the bucket as per his own released medical report?
>eat whole foods
>don't eat too many calories
>Make sure to have balanced food groups, micros and macros
What's so fricking hard to understand? Are people moronic?
>Are people moronic?
I am people.
Hi people I'm people! Nice to meet you!
On the left
>a bunch of carbohydrates that keep you feeling satiated for a maximum of an hour
On the right
>a bunch of fat and protein that will keep you feeling satiated for an entire afternoon
difficult choice
>difficult choice
You don't have to choose. You can eat both.
why do I need carbohydrates if I'm not training in the next 12 hours?
You should eat carb heavy meals before workouts and in the evenings a few hours before bed. so that you get energized before training and tired right in time for bed
Yes. Correct carbs are good for muscle performance. No-one is disputing that.
>Your muscles and brain use carbohydrates for daily functions outside of training.
Incorrect, your body can create its own sugars from non-sugar substances, to fuel the brain. its called glyconeogenesis. That is outside the fact the brain's best and preferred fuel is ketones
low carb performs just as well
low carb isn't NO carb though. Again, I'm not disputing that carbs are essential if you're lifting. Carbs retain water in your body which is carried in your muscles which make them bigger + perform better.
But if you're not lifting, the human body really does not need carbohydrates to function, it especially does not need ANY sugar outside that found in fruit.
>That is outside the fact the brain's best and preferred fuel is ketones
I'll concede this point. I have done keto multiple times and the mental clarity (besides the initial keto flu) is one of the best benefits every time. Gym performance on the other hand is always inferior on keto.
Body builders will carbo load for a full 48 hours prior to a competition. This fact about carbs and muscles is a no-brainer
You can still eat carbs while retaining mental clarity. Fast the mornings, workout in the afternoons after a carb heavy meal, you'll crash right in time for bed
Thanks for the protip, friend. I'll give it a shot.
>Incorrect, your body can create its own sugars from non-sugar substances, to fuel the brain. its called glyconeogenesis.
Which proves that the body prefers glucose so much it'll make its own of you do something stupid like not eat any
>That is outside the fact the brain's best and preferred fuel is ketones
Theres never been any ketogenic society or culture on the face of the planet
Not really it just likes to have glycogen for muscles. The body still has to convert carbs into glycogen just like it does with protein in order to be useful. Meanwhile your brains and organs will happily run off of fat with out any glycogen necessary. The glycogen storage system in our bodies is unique evolution that allows us to endurance hunt. You see it all comes back around to humans being and predominantly hunting and meat eating species. Sure we managed to find the less than 1% of plants the and fungus that don't instantly kill us when we eat them, but all of them come with caveats to eating them. Endocrine disruptors, hormone blockers, uses quite a lot of vitamins to process, carcinogens. They all have significant effects on your body and those effects can be terrible for some and beneficial to others. Garlic is blood thinner. Chocolate, tea, and coffee are stimulants. Onions raise testosterone. S o y raises estrogen. Blue berries cause your blood to carry more oxygen. Almonds and apples contain cyanide. It is a lot more complex than just carbs vs fats.
>The glycogen storage system in our bodies is unique evolution that allows us to endurance hunt.
That isnt how evolution works, and you have no source for that because its simply not factual.
>You see it all comes back around to humans being and predominantly hunting and meat eating species
The fossilized feces we have show that man at over 100 grams of fiber per day.
I don't think you know what a fossil is? You can't tell the composition of something by a fossil only the shape.
You have clearly no idea what you are talking about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolite
>Paleofeces, on the other hand, retain much of their original organic composition and can be reconstituted to determine their original chemical properties, though in practice the term coprolite is also used for ancient human fecal material in archaeological contexts
Not fossilized. Petrified. Learn some paleontology nerd.
So your argument isnt with the facts that show man historically at tons of plant matter, its that I'm dumb because of an essentially interchangeable term. I'm out. You carnivore people are just off.
You really aren't going to convince people to stop. I ate the "healthy" foods all my life and I ended up overweight. I eat the "dangerous and extreme" carnivore diet and have had more energy and been healthier than I have been since I was a child. I don't do this diet because I think it is natural or some shit. After all why would you take advice from a caveman. It was impossible diet most of the time except when a group managed to take down a mammoth. We ate plants mainly out of necessity. We don't have to anymore.
>I ate the "healthy" foods all my life and I ended up overweight.
Fattyfatasfatass-tier lie.
>Starving paleolithic man takes shit so unnatural nature could not break it down for over 10,000 years.
Your muscles and brain use carbohydrates for daily functions outside of training. You DO have obligations outside of the gym, right Anon?
>no species eats
No species has achieved a global space-faring society either. You can't compare humanity to wild animals.
That's a bit stupid considering the entire reason human brain's evolved to become so big and complex was due to scavenging and then hunter-gathering meat. Not only that but brain size shrinks on a vegetarian or vegan "balanced" diet.
The body can produce all the carbs it needs, it doesn't need to be consumed exogenously, especially not from modern unnatural foods that are included in a "balanced" diet.
The truth is that the only balance that actually matters is a balance of protein and fats from animal foods.
>Your muscles and brain use carbohydrates for daily functions outside of training
But what our brains crave is meat and fat, meat is what made us big and smart, not carrots.
Our brains crave all types of foods. Also, what about all other carnivorous animals? None of them have civilization.
lmao
The carnitard is left speechless when confronted with basic facts.
>Your muscles and brain use carbohydrates for daily functions outside of training
>No-one is disputing that
I'm disputing it. The brain only prioritizes carbs to get rid of them, and you don't ordinarily have both ketones and carbs present in your bloodstream at the same time. In those experiments where ketones were artificially introduced into the bloodstreams of people along with carbs, their brains used the ketones first.
Agreed. Glucose is toxic to the brain whereas ketones are building blocks and clean energy. Ketones are so healthy for the brain they can partially reverse alzheimer's.
The body prefers to create its own glucose so that it is stable. It's a legacy fuel that is only needed in limited amounts.
The heart also prefers to use fatty acids. Only when it is damaged does it switch to glucose. The recent pseudovaccine damaged people's hearts and a Japanese study using PET scans showed their damaged hearts were using more glucose than normal.
I guess you can't really get alzheimers if the keto diet kills people of heart attacks at age 60.
>carbs + antinutrients vs protein
guess which I'm choosing
Carnivores will tell you that a 5000 calorie jug of sugar water is unhealthy when your brain and body run on sugar
It is unhealthy if it makes you fat, fricks up your pancreas, or gives you a fatty liver, but some people have metabolism that process it just fine and sugar has been used as a medicine since ancient times. If you are trying to get to a healthy weight and grow muscle at the same time carnivore works great for that.
>when your brain and body run on sugar
As yes, the 99,900 years prior to the industrial revolution and processed sugar where all humans starved and died without sugar.
sugar is glucose, your body needs it, if you don't give it sugar your body will make it, I'm nottalking about table sugar, complex carbs with nutrients and fiber, and fruits that also have fiber and nutrients are great for you because they can give you energy right before a workout while simultaneously being nutritious. Also the more fiber you eat with sugar aka fruits and grains, the lower the glycemic index, and thus your insulin won't spike and you won't crash due to energy being low.
The only people claiming that processed sugar is good for you are schizoids and Bill Gates, stop fighting air.
>99,900 years of human history undo because the sugar industry told me so!
The fact that your moronic ass forgot that humans have been eating grains and fruits for as long as we've existed.
you're still fighting air? Nobody in this thread has claimed simple processed sugars are good,
Some people have sex with animals like donkeys horses sheep and dogs. Don't make it right. You wanna be fat, be my guest. I choose life.
Humans ate grains for like 1% of our evolution. Fruits for much less than that. Most of the fruit we eat today weren't consumed even 200 years ago. Every single fruit and veg in a supermarket is man-made and engineered. They all contain chemical pesticides (even organic ones) because that's the only way they can be grown en mass, and have to be imported from countries with an appropriate climate because guess what ice age Europeans didn't eat fricking mangos and avocados.
I can't believe vegtards actually believe that these foods are natural it's as bad as the flat earth stuff.
did you pull those numbers out of your ass? I admit that grains probably weren't a staple before farming but fruits definitely were.
>I can't believe vegtards actually believe that these foods are natural it's as bad as the flat earth stuff.
Meanwhile you think this is normal and healthful. Ironic as hell
>Every single fruit and veg in a supermarket is man-made and engineered.
This is true. Our ideal diet should consist of the same black angus cattle and Cornish cross chickens that our ancestors hunting on the steppes of Evrope
>Every single fruit and veg in a supermarket is man-made and engineered
Your clothes are manmade and you live in a house dude
If my body makes it naturally, I'm not going to consume it. Same reason I don't take drugs or get vaccines. If you let your body actually function the way it was designed by God, you'd be a whole lot healthier.
>If you let your body actually function the way it was designed by God, you'd be a whole lot healthier.
He said, wearing clothes, sitting on a chair in fron tor a computer, in a home with central heating and a clean water source
Most cheeses aren't safe for carnivore and you shouldn't really eat processed bacon with all the preservatives. Regular un-tampered meat and unadulterated cheeses are healthy. Some people can't process chlorophyll like most people and get very sick when eating it. Why does people eating meat make you seethe?
>Most cheeses aren't safe for carnivore
why?
>extreme diet is extreme
Take a wild guess
you didn't answer the question
why are most cheeses not safe for carnivore specifically?
I'm not him, and I said take a wild guess, which implies you can figure it out yourself based on the fact that its an extreme diet
I don't know the exact science to all of it, but many cheeses use vegetable dies and some cheeses will make you dangerously constipated.
None of what you said is relevant to anything
You are a homosexual and I would wear you around my dick like a wiener ring.
You seem upset
Suck dis dick white boi.
Meat yes, chesse no.
carnicucks are mentally ill.
>not going paleo
>meaningless buzzword that's been retconned 85 times
Where does the need and belief of the one silver bullet to fix all problems come from?
>X diet will cure everything
>X politician fill fix everything
>X invention will solve all problems
>X denomination is the one true denomination
>X art movement will be the last
Unhappiness
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>meat, no plants
HAHAHAHAHA
How can he develop diabetes? What spikes his sugar?
Its caused because the high fat level permeates the insulin producing cells and causes them to be resistant to insulin. Insulin is needed for both carbs and protein. Diabetes isnt accused by spiking blood sugar, its cause by high fat levels impeding the ability of the body to use that sugar properly
Not sure about that. Keto works pretty well for diabetics, even mainstream sources acknowledge that.
Yes, as long as you dont out sugar into the system, the sugar levels dont go up. What are you expecting? Doesn't mean you aren't diabetic. The science is very clear that intramyocellular lipids cause insulin resistance
Don't put*
When you start keto your resting blood glucose doesn't instantly drop, you don't have the same spikes as with sugary meals but your baseline remains elevated for a while.
After weeks or months your resting glucose falls, your resting insulin also falls. For me this shows that it's not just that you eliminated sugar in the short term, it's that your insulin sensitivity rises.
>it's that your insulin sensitivity rises.
It doesn't. It decreases. Its been demonstrated repeatedly, that's the mechanism of action in the body. If you do keto and then take an oral glucose tolerance test would will fail every time. Your glucose falls because you aren't putting glucose into the system and tour body adapts because it doesn't expect it.
>intramyocellular lipids cause insulin resistance
post any human trial supporting this. I won't hold my breath
yeah im sure those unnatural manmade colorful nutrient void shit and indigestible fiber is better than the flesh and animal products coming from your hunt
So natural and not manmade huh
>coming from your hunt
You dont hunt
>
No you dont
>
Nobody does this
>
Don't care about your larp