CICO has been debunked

If you listen to this whole podcast and still think it’s about CICO, you have to be fricking moronic.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Slide post, you didn't listen to it yourself.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m re-listening because it’s so informative

      Babe wake up the principles of thermodynamics have finally been broken

      >eat 160 calories of almonds
      >non-soluble fibre forms a latticework in your intestines
      >soluble fibre fills in the gaps of the latticework
      >only 130 calories get absorbed
      that’s one example of a million, maybe learn the science before you start spouting off

      Your body is not a fricking bomb calorimeter.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        cool, now for practical terms to program into one's life:
        what should one do?
        isn't calorie counting still the best approach (+- some calorie absorbtion metric)?
        does this CHANGE EVERYTHING (at all)?

        report back when you listened to the podcast my peon and next time include a management summary
        off you go, shoo shoo

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes ofc. The base principle of CICO and any form of weight loss is energy expenditure greater than energy intake. The human body is complex and various forms of nutrition and conditions can impact how the body deals with all that. No doubt about that.

          I’ve just had enough with morons saying calories (and by extension CICO) don’t matter

          He covers this in the podcast. Every single study shows that calorie restriction doesn’t work and doesn’t lead to long-term weight loss.

          The American food system is poisoned with fructose.

          Maybe try listening to the podcast?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            give a summary if you provoke meaningful exchange
            cant expect everyone to listen a 2h+ podcast in their freetime (or to extend it further into your life, anything at all coming from you if you cant point out specific benefical properties)
            you failed your task peon, that is not how to buy in senior management aka your master

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you failed to answer his question again

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're fat and reddit, disregarded

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >caloric restriction doesn’t work
            Then why aren’t there fat people coming out of POW camps?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >caloric restriction doesn't work
            You sure bout that?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes ofc. The base principle of CICO and any form of weight loss is energy expenditure greater than energy intake. The human body is complex and various forms of nutrition and conditions can impact how the body deals with all that. No doubt about that.

        I’ve just had enough with morons saying calories (and by extension CICO) don’t matter

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          They matter but for anybody running into problems they are not enough and never were which is weight loss statistics are beyond horrendous. If 99% fail there is more to it than just „eat 500 cal deficit per day and you are guaranteed permanent success“

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most people fail because they have no discipline to stick with it and/or too stupid to figure out how to do it correctly

          • 5 months ago
            SwedishBrorsan

            subtracting far below 400 is even lower than the military infantry restriction code
            muscle wasting but at least youre more certain of losing

            even if it may come to bite you in the ass if you keep going for longer periods

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Congratulations, you've just discovered the thermic effect of food.
        But you'll still get fatter if you consume more calories than you've burned and you'll lose weight if you eat less than you expend.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          this is unrelated to the thermic effect of food.
          this is a separate phenomenon.

          is the average IQ on this board 65? my god.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Congratulations, you've just discovered the thermic effect of food.
          Its liek you didn't even read the post

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you going to eat cold day old rice now because of the formation of resistant starches? That's a 40% reduction in usable calories. Or maybe you'll only eat your meat raw because the absorption of the protein and fat of raw meat is reduced in humans due to our evolutionary history with cooking. That's a good 25% reduction. It's not a practical solution for a lot of meals for anyone. Calories in and calories out is still the rule. If you don't absorb the calories then it's less for the calories in portion. Taken to its logical extreme you may as well just eat clay because it's micro rich but you won't absorb almost any calories from it despite it being calorie rich as well. It's a far more practical solution to focus on food volume for the same calories rather than reductions in absoption

        Congratulations, you've just discovered the thermic effect of food.
        But you'll still get fatter if you consume more calories than you've burned and you'll lose weight if you eat less than you expend.

        This is a genuinely dumb reply bro. He's talking about fiber in that post

        here is the Andrew gooberman formula:
        >take 3 studies with a sample size of 10
        >isolate some aspect of each study
        >create a Rube Goldberg machine of logic that connects these aspects to a preformed clickbaity conclusion
        >wait to drink coffee until after you've had your morning shit to triple your testosterone
        >make 2 hour podcast on this conclusion

        Basically this

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cover your food with fiber and you won't absorb it because of "lattices"

      • 5 months ago
        CKO Anon

        https://i.imgur.com/cT3cEIo.jpg

        If you listen to this whole podcast and still think it’s about CICO, you have to be fricking moronic.

        No, CICO wasn't broken, you're just proposing a modification to the CICO model to account for absorbability of certain macros. CICO is law at the end of the day. If you want to create an enhanced CICO model go ahead.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          CICO is asking fat McDonalds amerigroids to learn thermodynamics and statistical representations.

          It is better to cue quality. You can eat any amount of blue berries with no measure and have no difference bother you. Unless youre on keto. Even on keto you can get "full" on strawberries and raspberries but you will still feel quality seeking hunger for a small bite of savory fat.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I only eat NIST peanutbutter jars with 0.00000 degrees of freedom

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I only exercise 2000kcal worth of Joules/meter a day and I am bad at algebra

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Waiter! I did not order one avocado! I ordered one avogadro of potassium! Did you even use the Boltzmann constant and average mean path of molecular collosions in your eggs benedict?
                Bah! How unrefined! I will report you to the RDA!

        • 5 months ago
          SwedishBrorsan

          thats the whole point that people are pointing out about cico being stupid that armchair scientists wont accept
          and its usually moronic vegans who is the absolute most resilient to the information addressed here.

          the cico acolytes are absolutely ignorant about micros and macros and because reaching your micros actually matter
          is why the vegtards join arms in this moronic debate to block out any constructive information addressed about your wound.

          the same idiots who protect mouth breathing recently as if its somehow a new thing to them. Like, you cant fricking make this up

          vegtard
          cico acolyte
          mouth breather

          youre the same people who defended the vaxx like your life depended on it

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Covid vaccine saved a ton of lives and was an enormous benefit to society.
            Cope, I bet you couldn’t get a 90 on an IQ test.
            Always the same with the antivaxx morons.

            • 5 months ago
              SwedishBrorsan

              gottem, i know your kind like the back of my hand

              fricking stupid mouth breathers loose chins and their vaxx and vegtard selfharm diet

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Isn’t it funny how anti-vaxxers always type with no capitals, no punctuation, and a bunch of screeching one-line conspiracy buzzwords?
                No, surely that’s a coincidence.

                Anon, when all the dumb people are in one corner of the room…

              • 5 months ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                youre just trying to rebuild a high ground of artificial iq with your lack of knowledge,
                maybe you should shut your slack jaw and go back to where you came from, your mouth breathing smells like dog.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                We don’t let you make medical decisions for yourself because you’re not mentally fit to do so.
                Now take the jab, loser.

              • 5 months ago
                SwedishBrorsan

                youre going to die from my breath alone

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You would need an AI rectum giga database to begin to apply CICO as well as "not all calories were created equal" discrimination.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        And where does the other 30 cals go... out your butthole. No shit huh, it's called waste. You just explained something literally everyone already knew.... do you feel smart now frickwit?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        podcast is about sugar and processed foods

        talks about fibre

        ???

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Babe wake up the principles of thermodynamics have finally been broken

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You thermo tards are the dumbest cattle since the vaxxers but still below roiders

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Midwit parroting le thermodynamics line.
      Like pottery.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    here is the Andrew gooberman formula:
    >take 3 studies with a sample size of 10
    >isolate some aspect of each study
    >create a Rube Goldberg machine of logic that connects these aspects to a preformed clickbaity conclusion
    >wait to drink coffee until after you've had your morning shit to triple your testosterone
    >make 2 hour podcast on this conclusion

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      true except the podcast is 3.5 hours, and 45 minutes of that is ads for eight sleep and athletics greens
      at least another israelite gets to stack his shekels and control the behavior of the masses…

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    sugar and goyslop is.... le bad for you?? WTF??? based science man! I never knew this!!!!!

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    hate normies who watch a huberman or attia podcast and act like they know shit all of a sudden

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      they do know shit.
      they learned it from listening to Attis and huberman.
      imagine thinking fitness knowledge is so complicated you can only understand it if you have a le Ph.D

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why let israelite into your living room? Better take bullet to head.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only listen to based huberman podcast and not the health grifting shit that he typically does

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    CICO is like believing nominal money is real money and like believing women's no is for sure no and that woman's for sure is for sure yeah.

    MOST HEAT IS WASTED

    Food is a qualitative cue for choices not a quantity that is reifiably easily measured or estimated

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    When i eat in a caloric surplus, i gain weight. When i eat in a caloric deficit, i lose weight. Also, Robert Lustig follows a ketogenic diet and he is fat.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    My pan fried tuna steak sizzles at a molecular speed greater than the speed of sound yet the molecules themselves do not travel very far off of the pan you see when I cook a tuna steak. I take into account the carnot cycle and many models of idealized heat engines. So with my master's degree in mechanical engineering and 20 years of experience at Ford motor company engine design, I have come to realize I am hungry

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      After having sex with twin mechanical engineer hot babe drop outs and a PhD orgy of gastroenterology academics I have learned the word "krebs cycle"

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        After smoking with Native American shamans and forest druids I have found the true diet by sensing the spirit of plants directly from my own psychadelic vril jolting GNOSIS

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          After orgying with the mechanical engineer twins, the gastroenterologists, AND the native american shamans, I now have HIV AIDS

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/QBKr6p6.jpg

      After having sex with twin mechanical engineer hot babe drop outs and a PhD orgy of gastroenterology academics I have learned the word "krebs cycle"

      https://i.imgur.com/wlfzLna.jpg

      After smoking with Native American shamans and forest druids I have found the true diet by sensing the spirit of plants directly from my own psychadelic vril jolting GNOSIS

      After orgying with the mechanical engineer twins, the gastroenterologists, AND the native american shamans, I now have HIV AIDS

      These guys actually get it.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 5 months ago
          SwedishBrorsan

          let those guys go, leave them alone

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just in this thread waiting for the shawn shill to show up with his moronic charts calling. Everyone leftist vegans

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Buy an ad.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >listening to a balding, out-of-shape grifter

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Waiter! Bill please!
    >sir that will be 4 billion genders
    Ah! Inflation!

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