CICO is a myth, otherwise fasting wouldn't work. People are regularly losing 2 pounds per day fasting which is 7,000 TDEE. The reality is that a pound of fat is actually only about 15-20 % fat, the rest is water and sodium bound to it. So weight loss is actually about unbinding the fat at an atomic level and flushing it out, which fasting does through absorbing metabolic water.
Redpills on dry fasting?
I don't trust fat peoples advice. Let alone a schizophrenic redditor.
You just described CICO, but are claiming it's less efficient than assumed.
OP is absolutely a gay
bro science
yeah exactly you can't just change the reality of your body's chemistry by making a post on IST
This is like if I make a post on IST about how gravity is not real because of my opinion
Calories are just a chemical unit of energy that is consumed and expended by various living organisms
If they don't get enough calories/food, they lose weight, and vice-versa
Unbinding the fat from what buddy?
>cico is false
>btw if I dont eat any food I start losing weight
???
That's true for the starting week of all weight loss is at least 70% water. Neurons actually innervate white fat and signal it to start the uncoupling process with epinephrine. CICO isn't a myth it's just an oversimplification regurgitated as dogma. It will work regardless of how unsound it's methodology is.
Yeah my first week of the yearly weight loss until late spring I lost 15-20lbs.
Only about 6lbs of it was fat and I was eating daily, I was just doing an absurd amount of exercise to get back to zero.
The idea that you have to fast is completely unfounded and there is zero real world evidence it does anything.
All that matters at the end of the day is that you have a negative caloric intake even if its a few calories. It still activates all of the same processes that "fasting" says it does, but there is actual evidence.
About two days into an extreme caloric deficit you start waking up after only a few hours of sleep and begin to get absurd amounts of energy.
>About two days into an extreme caloric deficit you start waking up after only a few hours of sleep
that's cortisol you get this from overtraining too
>and begin to get absurd amounts of energy.
that's probably you metabolizing your own fat
>that's cortisol you get this from overtraining too
Well yes, excessive cortisol happens from excessive exercise, but you are forgetting the other factors.
All reputable sources have stated that for long term weight management a mixture of reducing food or increasing physical activity is needed.
At some point the loss of nutrients from excessive food restriction is a huge factor in overall wellbeing.
By re-eating (doing exercise and eating to reach a minimal plateau) you can still gain crucial nutrients and hormones for long term weight management that you can't sustain from the same in excessive fasting.
Add in the principles of the zig-zag diet where two days a week you eat every so slightly above maintenance and the long term ability to keep weight off increases even more so simply because of the mental wellbeing increasing to a more sustainable level.
There is a decent amount of evidence on this.
Meanwhile most "fasting" is met with extreme highs and extreme lows. In principle it's much the same as the people that do extreme diets and just end up binge eating later.
unrelated, I'm not fat don't care.
300lb Ketolard:
>bro I can eat unlimited calories and still lose weight. I used to be 400lbs now I'm only 300lbs (no proof)!
>but also you need to constantly fast...
What is it then? Unlimited calories or caloric restriction?
Keto has always been about caloric restriction. I guarantee that anyone who claims they eat “unlimited calories” are really eating at, or below their TDEE. If they just counted calories for the day.
>every gram of weight lost is 100% fat
>cico doesnt work
>if you dont eat youll lose weight
Average anti-cico tard.
>So weight loss is actually about unbinding the fat at an atomic level and flushing it out, which fasting does through absorbing metabolic water.
you really think that people have pure fat on their body? jajajajajajaj
It's all water+metabolites
>CICO is a myth, that's why consuming 0 calories a day causes you to lose weight.
CICO isn't a myth but morons on the internet read "muh thermodynamics" and think that's all there is to it.
It's a documented fact that when people go on calorie-restricted diets they reduce their physical activity to compensate. The same is true in the other direction, too - when people go into calorie surplus they do more physical activity. I've experienced this in my own life: when I'm bulking I love walking on the treadmill before and after gym. I put on some tunes and slip into daydreams about things I want to write or whatever. But when I'm cutting I fricking despise the treadmill and can't wait to get off it. It's the difference between voluntarily doing 50 minutes of powerwalking or dragging myself through 10.
That's just one factor.
CICO "works" but if all you do is CICO then for some people they're gonna be so affected by compensatory factors that their food intake is like 1200 calories a day and they're still fat. Whereas other people will be eating 2,500 calories a day down from 3,000 and shedding weight like a husky sheds fur.
CICO is literally just the very first piece of the puzzle but Black folk on the internet act like "muh thermodynamics" is all that you need to know.
>"but it IS all you need to know, just keep reducing your calories!"
Literally how you develop an honest to god eating disorder, lmao. If you're reducing your calorie intake to fricking 700 calories a day so that you can lose weight then being fat isn't your biggest problem. At a certain point your calorie intake hits a healthy minimum and you need to find other ways to get the fat off - e.g. more exercise, different foods, whatever.
>It's a documented fact that when people go on calorie-restricted diets they reduce their physical activity to compensate.
Oh, and the magnitude of this effect varies from person to person.
I ate 2 ounces of Uranium, now I never need to eat again. Ketolards mogged again!
>fasting proves CICO works
>therefore CICO is a myth
imagine being this fricking moronic