>CICO is real
>I live with a roommate, we're both around the same height and weight
>We basically eat the same stuff every day
>I don't do alcohol, drugs, he does
>I train, he doesn't
Still, I'm all flabby skinnyfat and he's just skinny with visible abs. What gives?
Why do people everywhere refuse to accept there's an element of genetics into play? I'm not saying I should give up, but saying that guy needs to same effort to have a good body than me is plain bullshit. He looks better than me without lifting a finger and I try hard.
Start doing drugs and alcohol
If I do alcohol I shit all my gains and my belly becomes alienlike
I lost
>start doing drugs and drugs
first of all you can't compare yourself to other people because you simply donut know what they do when you aren't around. For instance he could go to the gym when you aren't around, frick women for cardio, run, even doing pushups and shit before bed can result in a superior body to yours. inb4 we spend every waking moment together, you are gay.
>you simply donut know what they do when you aren't around. For instance he could go to the gym when you aren't around, frick women for cardio, run, even doing pushups and shit before bed can result in a superior body to yours
I'm not gay. We live together dude. He doesn't have this weird fitness secret life. He hates exercise
You eat more than he does. Stop coping, mr. secret eater.
it's always the same answer, yet anyone who wants to test CICO for themselves can do an experiment where they eat the exact same foods as someone else for a month and watch what happens to their respective weights. no one ever does it because they know it will fail, or they'll blame water weight, etc.
>I'm not gay.
Yeah OK buddy let's just scroll back up to the top of this thread to see who was OP
i'd post again but last time very homosexuals got you konw very homosexual like
>because you simply donut know what they do when you aren't around
This. There's a lot of dumb frick know-it-alls on this board when in reality they're just entitled morons that have no observational or self assessment ability
I can almost guarantee OPs roommate skips meals and when they do eat (supposedly the same thing together at a dinner table…) that he often doesn’t have the same portion as OP.
OP claims they do everything together meanwhile this homosexual could be walking to work, going on runs, coming home before OP and going on a run or walk, etc and I’m sure they’re both either students or have jobs or both which means there is almost daily a time when they’re apart for about 8 hours in which case we can assume the dude either skips lunch or has something small like a 150 calorie snack.
OP just wants to be told CICO isn’t real so he can feel justified in his shitty feelings, quite possibly give up. He is asking for permission from randoms on IST to feel how he feels. Would you believe what someone who can’t even think for themself says? If he actually believed CICO didn’t work he wouldn’t make this thread. He’d think “yup, this guys lucky and I gotta work harder” and then that’s it.
Every skinny homosexual I have known barely ate. They skipped meals often. Sometimes they’d have a stretch of a few days or a week where they ate three times a day. It’s almost entirely small meals amounting to under 500 calories each. Skip breakfast or lunch and that’s easily at most 1000 calories for the day.
These are the skinny homosexuals who swear they’re a “hard gainer”.
Contrastingly, fat morons do the same shit. “Oh I swear I’m in a deficit” meanwhile they’re lying to themself about how much they are, not counting fluids and condiments and ignoring the extra sanwhich they had as second lunch.
Also look at this fat moron homosexual mcgee sack of rat shit telling OP he’s correct and calling anyone disagreeing a gaslighter. That geek is either a fat b***h or he’s attempting to gaslight OP into giving up.
Yeah, skipping meals is a big one. I can eat a huge amount but some days I barely get hungry so they balance out.
And then there's all the random ways you burn calories throughout the day or don't that are hard to measure, probably this is why people used to be skinnier without specific exercise of diet.
>you are gay
OP is a gay tho
>Why do people everywhere refuse to accept there's an element of genetics into play?
because it's a useless distraction. Your roommate's condition has nothing to do with your condition. This is even more important to impress on fatties.
genetics is like 5% of it, for most of us they arent that important as were not trying to be the next mr olympa or professional athelete. I was skinnyfat/chubby my whole life, then something snapped, like a giga autism moment and i said enough, went to the gym 5 days a week and counted my calories so i was in a deficit and got in 100 ish grams of protein a day, and now im low body fat with visible abs and defined muscles. Stop with the excuses youre not a genetic anomoly that can solve world hunger and needs to be studied by harvard medical school.
>anomoly that can solve world hunger
You know how much food is thrown away in first world countries?
>You know how much food is thrown away in first world countries?
That's because our tax dollars subsidize excess food production for national security reasons. If we spent even more money shipping that excess to the third world in refrigerated containers it would not only waste additional tax dollars but it would cripple the remaining agricultural industries of those third world shitholes.
leave you Black person
I'm 6'0 and 165 lbs. I'm not fat. I'm just skinnyfat
you are fat
i'd post imagines of me but i'm pretty lazy
Skinnyfat is worse than fat, moron. It means that you're fat but with zero muscle tone, so you look small.
you sound fat
Nah, I actually struggle a lot with gaining weight. Currently 60kg trying to go up to 65.
sure you are you hungry...im tired of getting put into rehab now
World hunger doesn’t exist moron.
Gotta move more, you lazy piece of shit
Won't save him if he keeps shoveling sloppa down his gullet.
why do you sound so fat
Yes, genetics affect calories out. People who are not bright can't figure that out.
>I'm all flabby skinnyfat
CICO over the long haul determines your weight. That it is flabby weight has to do with you being a lazy frick.
i can burn 4 lbs a week via CICO but you are a fat homosexual so glhf
CICO and metabolic theory ate mutually exclusive. Since he believes in calories effecting weight loss, I rightfully told him that he should move more and eat less, as per his dogmatic belief system.
post body
i post my anorexic body every time and they all shut the frick up. it is boring
99% of people who complain about cico are emmentaler elementals, fat familiars, thrush thralls, soda servants and gluttonous golems.
i dont care what you fat fricks think. even after being foreced in paintient i am stil skiller than you fat fricks LUL
Does he walk a lot or work a physical job?
i mean i used cico to go to 13 bmi but i figure most will deny it as they want to be fat lol
I drink, smoke weed, eat 5000 calories of ice cream a week and I'm lean and can probably rape you and do full body twice a week and fricking hate lifting (6'0 200lbs)
sound fat and ugly
i'm 6'2 playing foot ball so when i walked to you i'm sure you wouldn't b***h up
6'2 is absoutely nothing. 6'5 is the height where shit gets weird. I'd frick you up while eating ice cream
you sound so fat you'd trip over your own feet you fat frick
>We basically eat the same stuff every day
You eat more than him, stop fricking lying fatfrick
that guy is a joke he sounds like 5'1 and anyone can literally just hold their arm out and he cannot do anything
>same stuff every day
>equating with Volume of stuff
you're a moron
to be legit cico is proper if you wanna be ana as it is the only way to do it.
I've been 14 bmi so if you want to argue it post body
Genetics, my half brother is the same
>doesn’t count cals like an autist
>occasionally works out at a local park doing pull ups or soccer (he’s 22)
>eats whatever mom cooks or orders Uber at least thrice a week
>eats out a lot with uni friends
>never been above 12% bf in his life, despite not caring much for diet or routine
It’s mostly genetics. People who scream cico don’t know what it’s like to flounder for years
here's the thing i an gain/lose 20lbs/wk literally...the fat of the matter is you expend energy you lose sources of energy you fat mother fricker
>muh cico muh genetics!
I have abs and probably mog you, but I have to work twice as hard to keep it. Also jfl at “gain lose 20bs a week”
Kys gaslighters you won’t post body
I can run 40 miles but we don’t do the same. I’m anorexic and you look fat
>that skinny
>no abs
Yeah this is what cico does to people kek. You look like you have an ED and the bmi of a teenage girl. Good job I guess
>I’m anorexic
yeah, I can tell
Imagine being that thin still with belly pooch. Loll
meh i have cum cutters so the homosexuals would like it but no i do need fat since like i said i was a runner
Looking fertile with that belly anon. Don’t lock your doors
sorry not interested in homosexuals as you all tend to be well...homosexuals
Says the anorexic Black person that browses women's mental illness threads
nah that's the IST thread but you an find me there too, much like yourself you pathetic homosexual
It's not like you could stop them.
>starving yourself
>still being this soft
bahahahahaha
>gaslighters you won’t post body
You got that picture off reddit you turbogay. What, did you think no one would reverse image check your shit?
oh he is fake? i'm the legit graptfruit can guy but if we got lazy guys i'm not going to bother
i guess i could post the SH stuff to verify but that' more /b/ related
Not only is OP being gay by larping as another man's 2 year old picture, the actual person in the picture is actually a CICO enthusiast.
This level of irony is honestly quite priceless.
they probably have good genetics but they brainwash themselves to think they had to go the extra mile/struggle to get where they're at.
happens a lot with good looking people. they have no idea what it is for some people.
I mean if I was ripped by just breathing, I probably wouldn't say "it's genetics", i would say I train a lot and eat religiously. humans are weird
Yeah, I don’t do that shit. I’m
and just to remain this lean I basically have to eat like a teenage girl. Don’t look like this anymore but I’ve been lean before; it wasn’t easy. It wasn’t just “cico” I had to be constantly moving just to not gain a bit of fat
Since discovering alcohol I can’t get the full 6 anymore
This is IST idk why they have tk gaslight so hard.
Average CICO hater.
Frick these homosexuals, CICO is literally cope for midwits to feel smart.
>oh it's thermodynamics
>frick u bro I measure everything
>I'm so smart calories in calories out
Lol everybody knows you should eat less and work out to get leaner
Fricking morons repackage that as "CICO" and add "thermodynamics" and they think they're unassailable sages.
>if I was ripped by just breathing, I probably wouldn't say "it's genetics", i would say
Frick you, you stupid fricking bigger. I'm in shape through plenty of effort, I just don't constantly cry about it like a fricking woman. Stop it with the triple decker fudge "genetics"cake after every meal and maybe you'll find it easier to lose weight and get muscle.
>flounder for years
the point of CICO is track things well enough to maintain a consistent caloric deficit or surplus, to have a consistent affect on your body. Metabolism, half twins, roommates, and the biology of elves has nothing at all to do with this. It's our body, it's your tracking, it's your eating, it's your exercise. If your special snowflake metabolism causes a particular caloric deficit to not be enough to lose weight, then actually tracking your calories will tell you that, and you can then adjust your diet. It takes as little as one week to see how your body is responding. If you floundered for years it has nothing to do with CICO, it's simply because you weren't doing it. If you have some deficit of willpower then the answer is not to reject CICO, but to supplement it with something else - like a whip.
I posted my body dude. I’m not claiming to have a special metabolism at all, I’m saying as a person who was never naturally athletic and had below average genetics I literally have to do thrice the work as my half bro who doesn’t care for fitness
I’m not making excuses for fats. I’m saying there’s way more at hand to a body than “muh cico” why can’t we just accept that so we can do better going forward? I’ve been lean as posted, for me? It took gruelling diet and workouts to maintain that. , whilst my bro was even leaner than myself and , as said, didn’t even really eat healthy or workout hard
Does cico work for some people? Sure
Does it explain how some people maintain leanness with little to no effort ? No
>Does cico work for some people? Sure
No, CICO works for everybody. CICO also doesn't explain why one person has a higher BMR or builds muscle easier or distributes more fat to his belly vs. elsewhere. CICO also doesn't tell you the time of day, or tell you whether it'll rain tomorrow. What you should do is accept it so that you can talk about that other stuff if you want without encouraging people to remind you about basic stuff like this.
i posted my old body, have you ever been sub 12? bf unless you post proof i don't care to listen to you tbh, so far the only cicogay in here is an anorexic grown man so forgive me if I find your peoples advice kinda dissapointing
BMR is a joke i'm 6'2 and my bmr is only 1500 so why are all those goblins so fat
>takes as little as one week to notice
I am a skinnyfat like op but do not want to fall into making excuses that defy cico, i'm 168 at 6'.. will eating less in just 2 weeks make visible progress? this is kinda inspiring
imagine genetics matter god damn you sound fat
Yup. I feel your pain OP
Lifting 2.5 years great diet never had visible abs in my life, MOGGED by my half bro who does chin-ups with shitty form in our nearby park and plays soccer on weekends. He’s had abs since like 7 and doesn’t know what macros or calories are.
People just gaslight here bc it seems cool to them that it’s “so simple brahnjust cico! Cico!” Meanwhile they are probably also skinnyfat
Genetics >> muh cico
Granted, young dudes who are somewhat active benefit a lot from this
>the internal combustion engine is bunk
Some people need to look at the speedometer to know how fast they're going. I can go by engine sound. Driving principles are the same for both
>>We basically eat the same stuff every day
Not pictured: OP's pre-workout snack, post-workout milkshake, second helping (because OP worked out especially hard), dessert...
I only posted body to point out an ana can literally run 20mi a day. I starve and can run but wh can’t you
No one cares what you think senpai, you are a man with ana. Go back to tumblr
sound fat ignored
Keep starving yourself and reading thinspo kek
doesnt change how fat you are god damn dont eat my food what are you doing why are you eating my food no stop
most sane cico spokesperson
>oh some people have slower or faster metabolisms" peop
This is just fact. It could be as much as 500 calories a day difference between a fast and slow metabolism.
But you can adjust by simply eating more or less.
Room mate
>extroverted, party guy
>spends most of his nights outside walking around the city, gets his 10k steps in
>spends hours dancing in clubs, more anaerobic light cardio
>occasionally has sex with women, gets more cardio in
>takes stimulant drugs that are thermogenic and help him have endless energy to run around
>eats decently, we assume
Result : lean, cardio body
OP
>goes to the gym 3/4 times a week
>exclusively lifts weights to the tune of 150calorie deficit per 30mins workout
>does no cardio at all
>goes back home to sit on his ass all day
>is a shut in neet that doesn't walk the streets of his city, let alone dance or party outside
Gee...I wonder what it could be? OP putting in 3hrs max a week of lifting weights, or his room mate who probably walks 40-50km a week on his party lifestyle and sheds his eaten calories like butter by simply being alive...
If it's true that you guys eat the same amount of the same thing, then he fricking clears you in activity level by miles each week. Lifting is not enough if you want to be lean.
tl;dr did you frick him or not
>adding your own headcanon to prove OP wrong
Very sad
unless you are actually counting calories with a scale your shitty anecdote means nothing
i can burn like 8 lbs of fat in a run but yeah
>around the same height and weight
> basically eat the same stuff every day
>around
>basically
>why are we different?
moron.
Anti-cico warriors ITT: OP and a guy who was once sub 12 bodyfat and admitted he had shit genetics / motivation and how hard it was to get that. lean
Cicochuds: a grown man weighing 120lbs soaking wet in boots
hmm..
you realize most anorexics have a heart rate of around 35bpm right? when i was 13 bmi my heart was only doing 29. and i didn't get fat because i wasn't some fricking pig who eats food
CICOtards
Behold, the embodiment of CICO:
Vs. CICO hating mogger:
post body i did you fat mother fricker
Mentally ill anorexic calling me fat
Keep eating your 1/2 banana 2 egg whites meals and running miles
uh oh someone's blood sugar is dipping
also calling someone who is mentally ill as a CICO person seems pretty pathetic for your purpose
that is diabetic talk not ana
uh oh you better have another doughnut fat boy your sugar keeps dipping you're getting cranky
i dont eat so i dont have insulin spikes like you ya fat frick lul
uh oh someone's memory is getting foggy
maybe you should have done that cardio instead of eating more sugar fatty
fail on your part my point still stands, i can poke fun at you and you will take offense to it. I have already decided so yeah
though not blue board posting that's for b ya know
uh oh itty bitty baby doesn't understand how to count
lazy response
bitty baby you want your sugar?
you're becoming so unresponsive
nah thread got boring since it is just your bad banter and no one else gg wp ll
>bro we basically eat the same
>except he is larger than me
>and taller than me
>so CICO must not exist
理解不明はずやろw
おkれもだめなのか
i mean can you really make fun of people who literally decide to starve themselves to death. it sounds pointless since you know kek
>
CICO just works you're just a brainlet bigger who can’t into basic math and science if you can’t figure that out
all i know is the anorexics i met inpatient were all doing CICO meanwhile those that didn't weren't skinny kek
Yeah cuz anorexics know exactly how to gain or lose weight and they want to lose weight.
i didn't want to be inpatient so if i could not be skinny while eating that amount i would, but you know physics
Yeah I understand my ex gf was anorexic. 5’6 and 95lbs
yeah i'm in cali so they can legally just lock me up and sadly done it a few too many times.
cest le vie
Eat more wanka
no when you are inpatient they make you eat this shitty fatty prison style slop and verify you eat it al, and make sure you don't throw it upl
Why are you anorexic as a man? Isn’t that embarassing?
no i was raised around nothing but women. i mean i had the whole cheerleader squad doing what they wanted with me, but sure tell me was it bad kek
btw, yes, they did dress me with their clothes.
they did and did makeup but that started in middle school and i required payment as a degen
if you're not weighing your poo how do you know how much weight you'll lose? mass in mass out truthers unite
poop is like a few oz (100-200g) at most meanwhile you can piss out 500g so if you are focused on poop you have a bigger issue
Bro I eat the same thing every single day and weigh myself pre poop pre morning water and food post morning piss every day
well i mostly eat 600 calories a day and i end up inpatient every few months so i think CICO works.
A. What jobs do you work
B. What is the height difference
C. Did he do sports as a kid, and did you
Having a good body composition has less to do with cico, but yeah you can forcefeed yourself to get fat or starve yourself to get skinny. Show me someone who's actually gotten a good body composition with cico, all I see are coping idiots who went from fat to skinny fat and somehow it's an accomplishment.
What planet are you on moron, literally every famous and successful bodybuilder on stage follows a restricted diet to get to where they are on show day.
Literally every famous and successful bodybuilder are all on copious amount of drugs. It clearly works too, somehow cicotards aren't able to make the connection though, that someone's hormones greatly effect their body composition, and that their hormones are genetic or environment related, and no amount of force feeding or starving will change that. Again, find me someone who goes from bad body composition to good body composition with cico. You'll just find people who went from fat to skinny fat, or skinny fat to anorexic.
you are dumb even with roids you'll only burn about 200 calories extra. lifting does not burn energy as you homosexuals sit around waiting so often
80% of IST uses steroids or SARMS.
And they come and talk about cico lmao
>>I don't do alcohol, drugs, he does
>>I train, he doesn't
if hes social, he does 'train'
any time i go to a party, its an easy 3k minimum calories burnt.
doing moderate cardio for 30 minutes gives me the same and sometimes greater daily calorie burn than strength training.
15 mins gives you an hour of gym lifting assuming they hit hard and you were only going at a 120bpm pace kek
>any time i go to a party, its an easy 3k minimum calories burnt.
what the frick kinda parties you go
>hey joe let's go to the club, but there's one catch, we're gonna run on the club treadmill for 2 hours to burn 3000 calories!
i think he was implying sex as cardio but i cannot speak for him
>what the frick kinda parties you go
any multi-hour house party where people walk around while drinking copious amounts of alcohol
>clubs
clubs less so, unless youre dropping moves on the dance floor
>while drinking copious amounts of alcohol
some alcohol has a shit ton of calories and carbs
you'd need to walk for 8 hours to burn that much
you are a fricking moron. same people that go to these parties are skinnyfat zoomers. it's all genetics
you can burn off alcohol (2x pint of vodka) in about 6 hours how fat are you
i dunno my sisters taught me if you're going to a club is a for a reason. maybe they were prostitutes but who else goes to clubs
>but there's one catch, we're gonna run on the club treadmill for 2 hours
That's a bit mean but I guess you could call her that.
Ok moronic homosexuals
I’m 6’. 76KG here
This is the result of eating in a deficit 1650 cals a day for four months
IT DID NOTHING
>moobs
>wide ass hips
>fat arse and thighs
Oh wow cico. 1650 cals at 183cm & I’m still fat. Thanks so much!
Any cicotard that looks at this and seriously think that it's a result of eating too much food and that the solution is to starve yourself needs a fricking iq test.
Fixing that mode is probably one of the hardest things in life
If you are fat, you lose wieght and you become skinny
If you are skinny you eat food and become fat
If you are skinnyfat you can't win. You will always be both, if you lose weight you'll be skinnier with lots of fat everywhere. If you gain weight, it'll go 100% to your belly
But i guess genetics dont matter
If you're skinnyfat you can lose weight with CI<CO, and you can gain with wit CI>CO. Nothing changes. Nothing's special about skinnyfat. Stop pointlessly resisting the truth about CICO so you can pursue whatever other interests you have, like ignoring your weight while changing your body composition with exercise.
CICO's not going to help you learn Kazakh, either. There's a lot it doesn't do.
sound fat
Look at ops photo a bit above. He is genetically fricked, he’d be cutting abs bulking spinning wheels for years even trying to remotely look good
What’s it the result of then moron? He has visible moobs and beer belly.
I don't fricking know but it sure as hell isn't cico. He's 67kg which is about 167 pounds, at 6 feet, the average american man was in 1960 was 160 pounds approximately, at 5 foot 10. If you still do not understand how someone can be a similar weight, yet a wildly different body composition, you are a moron, plain and simple. And if you think the solution is to just eat more or less I don't know what will get through to you. Pic related 1960s beach.
tl'dr sorry for you loss or sorry for you win
>if you think the solution to [body composition] is to just eat more or less
No, the solution to changing your weight is that. CICO is how you change your weight. That's it. That's all it does. The muscle you have is the muscle you've needed for how you've been living. If all you do is deny reality in front of a computer, not much is demanded of your muscles.
Why does every cico advocate argue so obtuse like this? What does it take to get through your thick skulls that advising someone to eat less to lose weight when he's already at a healthy weight, but just skinnyfat, is moronic advice? No one argues that energy balance has to be true for one to maintain, gain, or lose weight, that is self-evident, but it isn't good advice just as telling a losing team in a basketball match that all they need to do win is score more. All it is really is just a justification to blame someone for not trying hard enough, and act like you're actually helping them or saying something genius as muh thermodynamics. Pic related are the average weights of americans in 1959, americans at his height are his weight, now find me one beach photo of americans where someone looks like him.
i mean if you are fat sure cico doesn't work. but if you aren't it works you know.
are you saying his genetics give him that body desposition and not being a lazy couch potato skinnyfat neet?
Cico gays answer me this:
Would CICo rewlly fix this eternally skinnyfat mode?
Look at this specimen. He’s gonna be stuck in the SF limbo forever unless he rouds but even roids wont make your hips narrower
Look me in the eyes and tell me: you woke up in ops tomorrow.. how do you fricking fix this without roids? Tell me
>Would CICo rewlly fix this eternally skinnyfat mode?
What is there to fix? He's a healthy weight. If he wants to put on muscle he needs to change his diet (what he eats, not how much). If he wants to lose fat he needs to change his diet (what he eats, not how much).
cico gays answer me this and ill paypal you $10 bucks
how the frick would CICO help this man?
>Just cut bro!
He is 76 kg which is not even overweight bmi for a 6foot man. won't do shit
So what does he do? put money where mouth is, ignoring that anorexic though
CICO is about gaining or losing weight. He doesn't care about weight, so he shouldn't focus on calories.
What he should do is touch grass, lift, bike, run, anything, because that's how you get muscles that make it look like you do those things.
t. lost weight, lost belly, lost arms, while gaining legs, because all I did last year was freeskate.
>eating in a deficit
how much of a deficit?
what did you start at?
how did you track calories expended?
meanwhile not some homosexual troony because i'm just a guy willing to get his dick sucked for letting a girl play barbie
jelly much? to this date I have an open relationship with a 10/10 stacy yoga instructor with hard rock abs, she used to be one of them cheerleaders
no why would i lie? as if my life is good but i can recall the good memories
as for the rock hard ab girls yes my sister's friends but i guess you never had access
IST wouldn't understand when you play football in highschool i think but yeah still the same girls wanted to do that same shit LULE
For CICOtards
https://www.livescience.com/health/exercise/why-is-it-harder-for-some-people-to-build-muscle-than-others
>Have you ever wondered why some people struggle to see results, even if they bulk on protein and pump iron to their limits? Muscle growth is controlled by genetic factors, as well.
>Everyone has a variable mixture of two muscle fiber types that are specialized for different exercises. Fast-twitch fibers are geared toward powerful, explosive movements, whereas slow-twitch fibers support sustained, endurance exercises and joint stabilization. Fast-twitch fibers grow more readily than slow-twitch ones, so people who struggle to put on muscle mass may have a smaller proportion of these.
CICO is the guiding principle in weight control. That's it.
What that weight looks like is determined by training or not training.
cico works i mean literally ever anorexic uses it
Your solution to the skinnyfat guy who's at a "healthy" weight for his height is to become anorexic..
nice bait but no he should learn to stop being fat huhg
this. They don't understand if that guy eats less his arms will become even skinnier, just for a negligible decrease in belly fat.
I unironically think the solution is just becoming a mega fat frick and stop caring at that point
CICO is simple. just eat less than 1300 calories and you will get skinny. it is a fact you fat fricks
i eat 600 calories and get locked up every 6 months so it seems to work
i laughed at the guys who laughed at me when i can run 40 miles and they said it was bad
ok look you are all fat and this could be a copyposta at this point. but you are fat and you know you are fat. and you are wasting my time
again, no one cares what you think, you are anorexic yet still have 0 abs and a pooch. you are nothing bro
invalided
post abs.. oh wait
btw i can literally walk 2 miles with that and do 80 but you are a lame homosexual
2 whole miles! holy frick you must be on gear you're an animal!
more than you handstanding kek
i'm a grown ass man.. when tf would i ever need to handstand you ana homosexual?
eat something with sugar, the low calories are affecting your brain
wasting my time you do not
why is this one guy so hard posting lol so boring to me anyways
>imagine having a bmi of 12 but no abs
its OVAH
>the only spokesperson cico has is an anorexic man child who still looks doughy and soft at 120
absolutely brutal, cicogays btfo once again.
The jokes literally write themselves, you have
>an anorexic man who still doesn't have abs
>people advising a skinny fat guy who's at a completely "healthy" weight to just eat less bro!
>that op's roomate is lean because he parties really hard
will never understand why they can't just admit its more than cico at play
I mean op didn't even fricking mention much about his roommate, yet cicosoldiers have been sure to include their headcanon of his roommate such as:
>He's just really tall and can eat anything!
>he must be working out like an IFBB pro when op isn't looking
>he parties so hard he burns off all the calories
kek. what a complete joke
I think energy balance is regulated by the body much like things such as ph in the blood or blood sugar. Your body readily changes it's metabolic rate due to environmental factors to maintain homeostasis (studies like the minnosata starvation experiment prove this) and the only reason cico works is because of gross overeating, or undereating. So you have people grossly overeating or undereating going from fat, to skinnyfat, to anorexic, or vice versa, thinking it's an accomplishment. It really just ends up being a cope spiral where anything that doesn't work is simply not cicoing hard enough, and if it does work it was simply cico.
>250kcal deficit for a month
>loss 2lbs
GROSS UNDEREATING
bro that's a can of chips. That's 15min on a rowing machine.
kek you're not tracking 250 calorie deficit with any accuracy at all, and you can gain or lose 2 pounds day to day. It's also within the amount the body can regulate to maintain energy balance, in other words eating 250 more or less calories is not going to do jack shit to your weight. You'd have to have a way greater surplus or deficit to gaurantee that even with the inaccuracies of tracking, that you're within your target range even with a margin of error, and that it's enough that it is outside of the body's capabilities to still maintain an energy balance. The cicoadvocate literally advises you to destroy your metabolism in other words, you can do all that orthorexic tracking or you can figure out how to change your environment and diet composition so you can eat to satiation while being a good body composition, like literally every other fricking human has ever did for thousands of years to be lean.
250 is half a pound at best how fat are you
Can cicotards not read either? I'm responding to the claim that
>250kcal deficit for a month
>loss 2lbs
yeah well fat people dont actually diet no surprise there. 250kcal/wk except they eat one snack which is 170-250 calories
The effects from drugs aren't free. They cost you energy from food like anything else. This little guy parties harder than you lift.
who needs drugs you sound pathetic
>We basically eat the same stuff every day
I think "basically" is doing a lot of work here
If he does a lot of drugs good chance he burns calories just twitching around.
When I used to do MDMA I'd lose my appetite and not stop moving for hours.
they eat 500% and say it is the same
>cut to anorexic bmi
>still have gyno and no abs
CICo bros..
you laugh but i can run much further than you wish you could so why would i care
you can't even deadlift the bar, humble yourself son
and that matters how, i could just grab a device that ends yours life.
i mean didn't you all like guns an stuff. i mean they solve your problems right
I've been saying this since I came to the realization. Everyone is the results of what they choose to do like 90% of the time. Let me say it again: What you do with your time determines your future; but the remaining 10%, and this is what FRICKS you, is Genetics. Genetics can frick you hard. It is what it is.
the rope response how unique
>What you do with your time determines your future
and just how old were you when you figured out this fact?
That actions have consequences.
cico is legit because they force us to eat inpatient but sure ignore that you fat fricks
fat people act like they know how to lose mass when only skinny people know how to do it
but funny it is easy, just don't eat.
i feel that pain but i can get to 13 bmi because frick eating you homosexuals
height? current weight?
You bi? I wanna frick you into submission lil twinky
sadly not bi as i find you homosexuals ugly
Post tummy x
already did but i'm a runner so i actually need fat as you know we can burn 10lbs of a fat in a day
How about you run into my bed little gay
Wasn’t asking. Post tummy so I can frick you
this isn't anime you pathetic homosexual go frick on discord
>the anorexic schizo is now talking to himself
lol
why is IST homosexual so pathetic i mean i can literally find a girl but why are you all so pathetic
post your discord enough flirting
im gonna ruin ur tight twink hole
was that true real but still i have a wife meanwhile you cannot even find a beard
>don't even have the courage to @ me
weak
zz the truth remains
Your rejection hurts more than any girl. you ruined my day.
i'm getting very bored and you are getting really lazy
i'd talk in multiple languages but i figure you dont understand them but have fun
That one anorexic troony literally responding to yous within seconds. Sad
not a troony but you can keep imagining i guess you homosexual
btw ISTx can do notifications but i guess you're acting ignorant
No they can’t moron you’re thinking of reddit
Zero iq Midwit
how dumb are you really? this has to be bait right even the 4cx userscript has notifications you dumbass
So no cicogays can dispute OPs claim besides the starving troony?
Thanks I guess
Have sex Incel
you realized mostly married men wrote ISTx right kek
Grrr anorexo troon
dont know the lore what is that
ah boring result of you having nothing left to say ok.
very boring now so i guess this thread will go thread but i hope you won't hurt yourself with some random dildo i figure you're going to buy online
no i'm just a person from IST but that guy kinda well you can read the context
Uh ok, makes sense
I don’t have energy to argue more lol homie I wish you well on your quest
ditto is is a waste of time anyways not like our opinions changed about me being being choosing to starve etc
hope you sleep well brother
>metabolic speed is not covered by the CO
moron. Move more and eat less, tubby.
Uh ok, makes sense
I don’t have energy to argue more lol homie I wish you well on your quest
He probably has better genes than you, I probably do as well, lol.
my BMR is 1550 at 6'2 so people are acting like their body is buring as hot as the sun an they have to eat foo all the time those fat fricks
That's way too low, how much do you weigh?
CICO is real. You both eat about the same amount of calories, and both maintain about the same weight. If you want to build muscle, macros and training are just as, if not more important that just straight calories.
The difference is is that he burns 500 extra calories a day having sex, while you "lift" and burn maybe 100. You need to either train harder or start having sex, OP.
>Still, I'm all flabby skinnyfat and he's just skinny with visible abs. What gives?
he has lower bodyfat then you you fricking moronic fricking dingus because people have different bodyfat %
>Why do people everywhere refuse to accept there's an element of genetics into play?
Mechanistic world view. Welcome to the post-modern era.
Btw, if you try to argue against their axiomatic dogma, they will get really, really angry. See ITT.
He has lower bf%, if you are the same weight, CICO doesnt have to do with anything, lift more
The idiots who whine about CICO lack the braincells to even figure out what ''CICO'' stands for, they focus on the CI and not the CO.
If two people eat 2000kcal a day, it doesn't mean both of them burn 2000kcal a day. You have different weights, body composition, muscle mass, bone density etc. Someone who is skinnier and more muscular is going to burn more calories and because they have a healthier body they have higher testosterone which allows them to maintain more muscle and lose more fat.
Even if we assume that it's true that one fat frick eats the same calories as a healthy skinny person (not true 99.99999999% of the cases) you are not going to get the same results because his test levels are triple yours. Your test levels are of that of a fat woman. You need to get your weight and body in check and fix it before you can compare it to someone who looks much better than you.
guess you're just genetically cursed to be fat forever bro gg
suicide is your only option
These. If you can't figure out CICO, you should probably have a nice day.
You should give up.
you eat more than he does, fatties ALWAYS underestimate how much food they eat, fatass.
Cico doesn’t say anything at all about genetics.
You clearly have a much worse metabolism than him.