Does this shit do anything?
There’s a very nice girl from my work, who is a lesbian (irrelevant but thought I’d add this detail), who says this stuff helps her hair and skin feel better. Also it helps blemishes and scabs heal faster.
What say you?
I also drink bone broth
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I use it as a glycine source because isolated glycine makes me feel weird. I think it does improve my hair and nails as well.
I'm using Primal Kitchen after reading this report on heavy metal contamination in collagen:
https://www.mamavation.com/food/gelatin-collagen-jello-benefits-brands.html#Heavy_Metals_in_Collagen_Gelatin
Shit, I've been having the shit ones for like a year to help with my knees. I'm dead now, aren't I?
Wow this was really eye opening. Did the brand that the totally independent “study” in the article recommend any sponsored links? I have my credit card in hand just tell me what to buy Stephanie in digital marketing.
Buy an ad. We have this thread like 2-3 times a week and its always the same brands.
the whole point of the eat 1g protein per lb of bodyweight is that you dont have to worry about shit like that. your coworker goes from 60g to 80g cause lmao girl and notices a difference. you going from 150 to 170g wont do shit
Why is this shit so expensive
Women.
I think they help. Been using them for 5 or so months. Joints feel better, my hair and nails feel smoother.
I got the last big tub at the grocery store yesterday. It was 20 bucks off, so they were a good deal.
>It was 20 bucks off, so they were a good deal.
This. I buy them in bulk whenever they go on sale
Or I forget to scan a tub during self checkout 🙂
Buying in bulk is where it's at.
Collagen supplements are a scam, yes. Literally debunked countless times, you won't put collagen on your skin because your input collagen, or peptides, or collagen precursors.
Yet people will spend $$$ for that because COLLAGEN but hey masses aren't able to read or comprehend a fricking paper and/or are highly functional illiteraters
meme
Link the debooking
>Literally debunked countless times
>https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/considering-collagen-drinks-and-supplements-202304122911
it doesn't debunk anything, it just says that its effectivness isn't backed by quality studies and more research is needed, while not presenting any proof that it doesn't work. did you just type "collagen doesn't work" into google lmao?
>it just says that prayer's effectiveness isn't backed by quality studies and more research is needed, while not presenting any proof that it doesn't work.
I can't help functional illiterates, sorry for that.
dumb esl
It wasn’t “debunked” however one study showed that eating collagen doesn’t directly get more collagen into the body, however that same study showed that it did indirectly add more collagen because it signals the body to create more collagen of its own.
Learn to read the abstract homie
No, rodent studies show the collagen peptides which escape digestion are directly added to skin, tendons, etc. Some collagen will be broken down into amino acids and one of them, glycine, is very important for collagenous tissue too.
I wonder if i can buy it from some chinese factory in bulk for cheap
Do not ingest the asiatic dust.
I would never trust some no-name Chink supplement. Probably just capsules of quikrete.
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Don't buy melamine powder bro.
i've been putting this in my coffee every morning for about a year now and i think it works decently. my eyebrows are darker, no wrinkles, no acne, hair is a little thicker, joints feel pretty good
Age?
Collagen supplements are just expensive incomplete protein. Literally just eat more animal protein instead.
Chatgpt:
Collagen is primarily located in the connective tissues within muscles, such as tendons and fascia, rather than within the muscle fibers themselves.
In general, muscle tissue contains less collagen compared to connective tissues like tendons and ligaments.
Me: (You) are a moron
this guy said eat more animal protein but (You) are a moronic npc who needs GPT to think for him
>pic rel
Why would I think for myself when I can refer to chatgpt which has at its disposal all of humanity’s discovered truth so far
Or why would I believe some chud on the internet vs AI which doesn’t lie and literally knows everything
most girls don't even know how to take care of their hair so i doubt she knows what she's talking about.
There's ZERO Point in doing this.
But your chicken and veef with bones and render the tendons.
Eat skin.
Ravioli! t's so solved a
nd debunked!
Bone broth made from simmering chicken carcasses is rich in collagen, as it leaches out from the bones and connective tissues during the cooking process. However, the bioavailability of collagen in bone broth can vary depending on factors such as cooking time, temperature, and the specific components of the broth.
On the other hand, "Vital Proteins" collagen peptides are hydrolyzed collagen, which means the collagen molecules have been broken down into smaller peptides through a process called hydrolysis. These peptides are easier for the body to absorb and utilize compared to intact collagen molecules found in bone broth.
Therefore, in terms of bioavailability, collagen peptides from products like "Vital Proteins" are generally more readily absorbed by the body compared to collagen from bone broth. The hydrolysis process breaks down the collagen into smaller peptides, increasing its solubility and bioavailability, which means it can be more efficiently utilized by the body for various functions, including skin health, joint support, and muscle repair.
While bone broth is still a nutritious source of collagen and other beneficial nutrients, collagen peptides may offer more concentrated and easily absorbed forms of collagen for supplementation purposes. Ultimately, the choice between bone broth and collagen peptides depends on individual preferences and dietary needs.
thank you ChatGPT
"Vital Proteins" in particular is now owned by Nestle and suddenly tests positive with high levels of heavy metals: lead mercury cadmium etc. Factory farmed bone byproduct usually has this problem because the absolutely abominable goyslop they feed the cattle forces toxic loads into the flesh and bones of the animal. Your female coworker is probably going to have trouble conceiving or at least her kids will have brain development problems.
>buy company
>replace all the production equipment with my old shit so I can contaminate the stuff
yeah makes sense moron
More like they changed the diet of the livestock to save money, moronic illiterate Black person.
She has marine collagen
Also your bold statements requires sources
eat chicken feet will do the same thing.
No
When my mother doesn’t get her usual amounts of collagen her old-lady purple spots come back
They go away again when she resumes dumping collagen into her food
I eat a lot of collagen and everyone says I look younger, so idk.
My main sources are ground meat (the cheaper the better because = more connective tissue and skin, or ask your butcher to add more of the gnarly stuff) and I make sugar free gummi bears with 200 bloom gelatin (actually dystopian gummy bars like in that train movie but without bugs).
>I make sugar free gummi bears with 200 bloom gelatin (actually dystopian gummy bars like in that train movie but without bugs)
Come on anon, post the recipe please
Nice Quads
idk what to tell you it's just 100g gelatin dissolved in 500ml liquid, usually I do 420ml water and 80ml sugar-free syrup plus a cap liquid sweetener (8ml?). Pour in bar molds and let set. Can use milk, too.
>100g gelatin dissolved in 500ml liquid
wtf? I do 10g of gelatin per 400ml, won't 10x the gelatin amount turn it into concrete
>10 g.
You need at least ~55 g/d if relying on gelatin alone for a decent collagen and glycine intake.
You're making jello, I'm making gummi bears, well bars. They're still softer than the commercial bears.
only if you use chinese "gelatin"
Thanks mate, that's a great starting point for a recipe.
I'm thinking about what other flavours/supplements I can add to create a power gummy bar. Cheers
Without collagen your joints basically can't repair themselfs. So yeah use it if you don't have an other option of collagen source
Just eat protein, FFS. It's the fricking same.
https://examine.com/research-feed/study/9KGG79/
Every single study supporting "minor improvements" is LITERALLY financed by the collagen manufacturers
That's collagen II that's different from collagen I and III and you'll build it anyway with your fricking regular protein intake
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/considering-collagen-drinks-and-supplements-202304122911
>https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/considering-collagen-drinks-and-supplements-202304122911
this isn't a debunking you absolute moron.
no
I would drink bone broth with collagen+ tsp of gravy + ground black pepper as a post-post workout drink. I ended up buying glycine on its own since thats basically what helps with muscle recovery along with helping hair/skin/nails. Glycine is great for dreams too.
I am going to buy a tub of collagen to see if it helps with my loose skin, I know 100% it wont fix it but any help at all would be appreciated, especially since it is going to take at least a year before I have funds for a tummy tuck. Wouldnt mind if it helps with connective tissue pain too.
>eat 20g daily
>forehead wrinkles gone
>chud lines gone
Idk works on me and it's like only 30 bucks pro month
I'll keep it
I'm not saying it's a miracle supplement or anything but it's helped my shoulders and knees feel much better. Less clicking and creaking when stretching and less fatigue. It also definitely helps my nails grow quicker. It's a net positive for how cheap it is compared to other supplements.
Can I just buy gelatin since it's much cheaper?
Indeed
that's what I'm doing
The hydrolyzation process makes the collagen more bioavailable compared to the collagen found in food rich in it (bones, skin, tendons, connective tissue). Gelatin, which is made from those, is partially hydrolyzed collagen and it's much cheaper than the completely hydrolyzed version. Even though, the collagen is less bioavailable in food, it's a bad idea to replace it entirely with collagen supplements like gelatin because of the other components in food, which make it overall superior.
You can easily find evidence of glycine and collagen showing benefits. You won't get enough eating regular protein and you should aim for at least 10 g of glycine.
No. It doesn't do anything. Supplements don't do anything because they're not medication. They can only have a positive effect if you are deficient in the nutrients.
Collagen is just a protein. Like every other protein you eat, it gets broken down into amino acids in the stomach and small intestine, then absorbed into your body. Then your body makes its own collagen from the amino acids it got from the assortment of proteins you consumed. It doesn't know whether you ate collagen or you ate some other kind of protein. It just uses the amino acids it gets. If you were somehow deficient in glycine, go ahead. But, it's unlikely if you actually have an adequate diet.
Pretty much everyone is functionally deficient in glycine: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29559876/