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You need like ten grams of the stuff a day. A pill is what? Half a gram?
So why don't you get proper dosage and get healthier skin and joints?
I eat a balanced diet, I don't need collagen supplements. I'd rather have a bowl of tonkotsu.
>I eat a balanced diet, I don't need collagen supplements
"balanced diet" is an empty phrase used by midwits and doesn't mean anything. you'd have to eat a shitload of thigs like cartilage, connective tissue, etc. to get to the recommended 10 grams per day. even a typical portion of bone broth has like a few hundred mg tops. check the doses of various vitamins, micronutrients, etc. that give the best results in the studies and then check how much of them is in the fhe portions you usually eat
Why would I buy collagen when I eat tons of meat and supplement glycine?
I don't need it. I have decent skin. I eat a shitload of the stuff to help my joints since they're fricked from farm work. I average probably 150g protein a day, mostly chicken, lmao.
because its useless
doesnt do anything for your joints
not a good source of protein for muscle building
waste of money, just buy protein powder
>because its useless
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36516059/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32436266/
>Collagen is overpriced and not effective enough.
>Try glycine
collagen is like 30% of glycine and probably its cheapest source
Collagen is overpriced and not effective enough.
Try glycine, that's the real bottleneck and it has more functions than just muh skin health.
So Glycine supplementation is ok?
They are a meme because the dosage is way to low and they are overpriced.
To make a difference in joint and skin health, you should be eating a few pounds a year, rather than the 100g you get in a bottle of pills.
It's good for your liver and anxiolytic - lots of good benefits.
Ray Peat has good articles on it.
Although excess collagen will not withstand the ravages of pufas and vitamin A.
Because chicken bones can be boiled in water for a couple of hours to get a frick load of the stuff for free?
I've been eating these msm/whatever collagen pills for over a month to see if it'd help my clicking and grinding knee.
Nothing so far.
glucosamine and chondroitin is what you need. They sell a big bottle at costco. Also fish oil
That's the stuff I'm eating. Had to import it.
My msm + glucosamine supp kinda made my left knee clicking gone. It went away after 2 bottles, so far the clicking hasnt return.Mine doesnt have chrondrotin .
2 bottles of how many?
Mine is 250 and I do 4 a day.
Mine is the vegan msm glucosamine from now. Its 40 servings.I said 2 bottles but its more accurate to say 2 1/4 bottles, still got leftovers from the 3rd bottle. Now I just take them whenever I do my random curls, long walk. Try also to supplement vitamin c , as it will help with building collagen.
Type I and III is for hair skin and nails. 25gm a day
All collagen is an incomplete protein. You won't get enough muscle protein syntheses from it. It doesn't have enough lucine.
Type II (15gm) or UC-II (40mg)per day is what you need for joints/meniscus.
Throw in 400-450mg of hyaluronic acid for synovial fluid (joint juice).
Ive been a year buying cans of collagen for joints. It has vitamin C, magnesium, hyaluronic acid and vitamins B. It unironically stopped my hands pain when i cardio rowed and it also helped with my fricked up knee. I dont know what you collagencels are about. Maybe stop buying meme trash and buy actual pharmacy tested stuff. morons.
Dear misinformed moron,
The purpose of collagen supplements is to help the body build collagen. Pic related and highly relevant to frauders. Glycine in collagen is rating limiting for collagen synthesis, and so collagen has to be supplemented to make enough collagen. Additionally collagen levels in the body deteriorate with old age, as there is a chronic deficit of what the body synthesizes versus what is catabolized.
Lots of people report improved joint health and collagen/skin health after supplementing several pounds a year.
Well I must say it works (or a placebo?)
Recently had a TFCC wrist injury, couldn't even pronate wrist without pain. Crippled on most upper body exercises due to this took a few days off, almost no recovery.
Gym bro who's also a arm-wrestler suggested type 2 denatured collagen pills started taking them surprisingly in 3 days rotating my wrist does not hurt that much feels like it's getting better, and I can do movements that very painful on the first few days of injury.
Redpill me on glycine
Overprised. You can buy gelatine relatively cheeper. It's the same thing.
But even that is pointless as collagen is made of amynoacids that are in almost every animal food.
Your body doesn't synthesize collagen if you don't have enough vitamin c.
So the real solution is
>buy gelatin and make gellies with hugh in vit c fruits or berries added
>drink broth from any kind of meat/bones and eat fruits and berries.
>injured joint?
>spam orange jello!
got it chief
when you cook stock the collagen in the bones breaks down over time into gelatin. collagen and gelatin are basically the same thing and have no real differences when it comes to health benefits. its also a lot cheaper. you can buy packets of flavorless gelatin and add it into foods like ramen to make the broth silkier and more authentic to what the original is supposed to be like.
Since I was a kid I've always eaten the gristle off of bones and crunched them for the marrow. Dunno what deficiency I had, but sometimes I still end up in a kick as an adult for the stuff. Good thing I make broth from the bones and skin I'm always left with (chicken legs are super cheap).
Make bone broth instead?
How different is collagen powder compared to gelatin powder?
Gelatin is hydrolized collagen. So if the bottle says hydrolized collagen, it's gelatin. Hydrolized means broken into amynoacids. Your digestion will break collagen into amino acids, but it isn't very efficient at that.
Papaya latex / powder is a very efficient protease if you don't want to cook your gristle. Works on eggs, meat, and protein powders too.
P.s.: we don't absorb collagen, only amino acids it's made of. So gelatin is superior.
Damn, sounds like a scam if I ever heard one
Meanwhile you can just buy some gelatin powder from the supermarket and just add it into some soup or something
decent rundown
You gotta get a powder with all the collagen types. Bovie, chicken, egg albumin, fish and something else...
They all work on different areas/parts.
Bovine is kinda useless beyond hair and nails.
I used bulk supplements to get several types and added vitamin C for cheap.
Do not add EEAs! I made this mistake with about $100 worth of shit and its still usable and good and all that but EEAs are very bitter and salty. Absolutely fricks up whatever you're putting it in, especially 10g worth. I have to add monkfruit sweetener to balance it out but ain't the same-same.
I'm an old man who constantly hate various pains and aches. Collagen daily with tart cherry powder has eliminated so much of it. I recover from my workouts & housework much faster without the soreness.
Before taking collagen my joints would pop and my elbows felt a bit uncomfortable.
After taking collagen for about a month, my joints don't pop and my elbows feel as normal as they can be. No discomfort.
Im not sure whats going on but I would say collagen is great for joint health
Yeah I've had similar results, in healing a bad knee injury after eating 2 pounds of collagen.