I weigh basically 190lb
I am a midget goblin (5'5"). Plan to get limb lengthening to be 5'10" eventually, but sadly I'm going to have to wait a while longer since I fricked up my finances (I literally had the fricking money, but whatever).
Anyways, I am muscular, but not exactly "big". Shouldn't I look big with my weight and height ratio? Short height should make it easier to bulk up, but I honestly feel like a 6'0" guy with my weight would look either the same or bulkier even. Actually ya.. this guy is 190lb, 6'4", AND looks like he has more mass than me. Makes no fricking sense. Like in terms of fricking physics, it makes no sense at all LMAO.
Maybe my body type makes my muscle more compressed? I know some people cheat with steroids, but it still makes no sense why at the same weight and with a height advantage (shorter = easier to bulk up), I STILL look so skinny in Comparison
Wtf?
post body
My camera has the shittiest quality you can imagine. Doesn't properly highlight my details.
Frick that logic. That's a loser's mentality.
>Frick that logic. That's a loser's mentality.
You won't be able to lift the same with limb lengthening, brah. It's a loser's option.
>You won't be able to lift the same with limb lengthening,
That's not even true LOL. Go look at testimonies
It's literally a Soviet technique to make evil bionic super soldiers. Look into it. It came from medical experimentations in USSR.
No, dummy. It's not the same in every country. Success rate varies based on who does it. For instance this procedure is even done in Beverly Hills aka the hub for cosmetic surgeries in America.
Look up where those Beverley Hills people learned it from: Russia.
Ya, no shit, dumbass. That's the ORIGIN from FIFTY YEARS AGO. Probably closer to 60 years. It's not at day 1. A shit ton of progress has been made since then
you have body dysmorphia
You don't want to be average to just above average height anyway. We can't train to be very impressive, nor can we become featherweight moggers in a martial art. You really have your priorities backwards. I would give anything to not be a mesomorphic 5'11" goober, something like a Manny Pacquiao body would be amazing for what I want to do.
You could dominate in some sports if you wanted to, but instead you only look for validation in women (which you'd get if you were good at a featherweight to bantamweight level).
Not op but 5'6 anon here, the problem isn't about women, we can get women by minmaxing and being smart about it (except those with other big failings I guess), the problem isn't validation, it's not being able to speak with most men equal to equal, when someone is noticeably taller they just perceive you a certain way and there's in my experience nothing you can do to change it.
>limb lengthening
>caring this much about your height
Go rope homosexual narcissist
It would suck for his range of motion and weightlifting too, since he'd have to get used to building new muscle for harder ROM (which I can't imagine would be easily adapted to). He's already in a sweet spot where his muscle is easy to gain as a manlet.
>narcissist for caring about my body's aesthetics
>says this while posting on fit
You're a fricking idiot LOOOOL
There's a difference between building muscle and being a homosexual who gets surgery. What next you gonna get botox, some plastic surgery, you homosexual.
These guys are giving you helpful advice OP, why are you going, “reeeee”
I've wanted these surgeries since I first found out at 16. I'm almost 28. There's no way in frick some random ass person is going to talk me out of it
>wanted it for 12 years
>still claims to have 0 money for it
Bitch, you dont want shit.
Fat little manlet claiming giga muscle density. 5'5 at 190 youre a sloppy little nugget
>Bitch, you dont want shit.
They literally cost what you'd pay for a whole home, moron. I'd need like ~300k. I had 230k at 25, but fricked up.
>Fat little manlet claiming giga muscle density. 5'5 at 190 youre a sloppy little nugget
Post body then 🙂
Mog me. Let's see it
You can't back out now.
Why did you run away? Also I genuinely don't mind posting my body. My phone's camera is simply genuinely shit. That's not cope. The cuts I see in the mirror do not translate to my phone.
The first post is telling you to post body and you haven't.
You havent because you look like shit
again, dumbass. My phone's quality is dogshit. It doesn't properly show what I really look like
Does not properly show when there's curves. How I look like on phone == how I look in a mirror
You look like shit bruh. And this my fellow men, is who is giving you advice on /fit
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Lighting was garbage
Lmao you're fat AF b***h
False
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Honestly, I don't remember
You are 30% bodyfat, the guy in the OP is 8%. It's not rocket science
30%? What the frick is this cope? If you saw me in real life, you wouldn't be saying that lol. Again, my camera is shit so doesn't even show my body properly
You are the one coping here, one can't even see the outline of your abs despite you sucking your gut in, plus you have 0 muscle definition. Cut to 140 lbs and you will have the same look as the guy in the OP, atleast definition wise
>You are the one coping here, one can't even see the outline of your abs despite you sucking your gut in
dumb b***h. What part of "my camera doesn't capture me well" don't you comprehend? I know you think that's cope, but I legitimately look better in person than what my phone depicts
You were the one who created this thread complaining that you don't look like the image in the OP. It doesn't matter if you look better in person than in the photo you posted. You admit that you don't look as good as him, and the reason is plain as day: you need to cut. I'm 5'6, weigh 165 pounds, and have actual definition on my chest and and shoulders. You might be stronger than me, but I'm a better weight so I look miles better instantly.
>It doesn't matter if you look better in person than in the photo you posted. You admit that you don't look as good as him
>as good
I'm more so targeting about overall mass
>you need to cut. I'm 5'6, weigh 165 pounds, and have actual definition on my chest and and shoulders.
Post selfie
*talking
They comprehend it fine, OP, they just don't believe that it's relevant here because no camera is so bad as to make you look that fat and undefined if you're actually not. You're coping so hard you don't even realise it, and THAT's your problem. You have to admit it to yourself or you'll never hit your goals.
>no camera is so bad as to make you look that fat and undefined if you're actually not.
You're wrong. Camera quality is extremely relevant and so it lighting.
Lmao you're fat as shit you delusional homosexual
I'm not. The way I look on camera is not how I look in the mirror
>The reason is your moronic gut
You stupid moron. My "gut" is not as bad as it looks on camera. It is mostly muscle. If I focus o trimming it, I won't magically lose 50lb LOL
Reverse body dysmorphia, it's kinda funny kinda sad. Similar to rippetoe who thinks he's only 25%
Dumbass. I guess this stomach is also an example of pure fat, huh? LMAO
you have no idea what you're talking about:
What do you look like if you stop clenching?
I'm not really clenching, lmao. If I clench my stomach, it looks more flat. I was flexing my arms though, but the shitty fricking camera can't even catch THOSE details right either
Dude come on. Nobody's body looks like that unclenched. I started off this thread thinking that you're lying to us but now I think you might just have deluded yourself.
>Nobody's body looks like that unclenched.
What the hell are you talking about? Plenty of people have a more ripped stomach without even clenching
No, I mean that if that's your fat distribution while you're unclenched you have a really weird body.
That lighting was shit. I wasn't home at the time
And yes Ik I should focus on my stomach too, but to say THAT'S 50lb of fat is fricking hysterical
wtf is this thread even?
You literally have breasts hanging of your pecs, just because you have good fat distribution doesnt mean theres not a solid layer of fat covering your muscles. This thread is just a copium for being high bf. Do some cardio fatty
Cope. I have fat for sures, I'm mot denying that, but chest muscle aren't breasts lmao. If anything my chest is too small. I have fat, BUT I also need to bulk up more. Those two concepts aren't mutually exclusive
On this board, we call this dadbod or builtfat. Either way, you don't look shredded because of all the fat. I'm not telling you there's 50 lbs of fat on your belly, but if you want to look cut, you need to go on a cut. You need to lose at least 30-40lbs to look anywhere near the OP pic and you'll need to work your chest more.
I do need to lose some fat, but 30-40lb is an immense exaggeration. Plus I don't want to become skinny again. Defeats the purpose of me trying to bulk.
you're delusional, you will not have proper ab definition until you're down to ~150-155 lbs at your current muscle mass / bodyfat percentage. If you were to cut to bodybuilder-tier leanness, including dehydration, you'd be down to 135-140 lbs, no cap.
You deny it because you're coping, and it's a reason why you will never be lean with this mindset
also, if the guy in the OP would bulk to your bodyfat percentage he'd weigh 250-260 lbs. THAT is the reason for the weight discrepancy, you're comparing a lean athlete to yourself and wrongly assume that you're close in fat percentage
Reminder to newbies that this is the people giving you advice on IST
Think, moron. First 2 pics had lighting so bad you couldn't even see my body hair. That's how shit the lighting was.
you are like 35% bodyfat your ffmi is only like 20 ot 21, which while good isn't anything to write home about.
Scroll down. The first 2 had the most horrid lighting in existence.
This one? The problem isn't lighting you're just fat, you need to cut down to around 150lbs.
meant to post
there's no difference, you've got some rib flare and that's about as far as your definition goes, and the flare is likely from shit posture.
you have a very wide waist which means you're able to carry a lot of fat without getting a muffin top, and you don't have pockets in your love handles, but you are quite fat with relatively normal muscle mass for someone who works out, and at higher bodyfat percentages you can also hold on to more size because it retains more water and glycogen.
i.e someone with an ffmi of 21 at 30% bodyfat won't have an ffmi of 21 at 10%.
You fat as frick b***h
Scroll down 🙂
Mhm
My body fat is nowhere near as much as people say, but people think you have 99% body fat if you don't have a 6 pack which I can easily get by focusing on cutting for like 1-3 months or some shit.
You do not have a 50lb gut and the people hounding you about it are twinks.
Now chill the frick out and tell me how much you bench press.
Thank you for being objective. Helped me calm down. Anyways just being honest, but I haven't bench pressed since my teen years. No spotter. I've literally just been focusing on 60lb dumbbells and pullups with 45lb on my back. Different variations with dumbbells and pullups. Focusing on squats with my 2 60lb dumbbells too. I will look to go more hardcore later on, but not yet. Probably gonna eventually put like 165lb on my back for pushups too eventually. And for the pullups as well. I used to do 100 in a minute and 20 seconds with 45 lb on my back as a 16 yr old. Eventually plan to buy some vests and shit to wear all over my body too. I want to slowly try to become hardcore the way I was in my teen years.
So you're fat and you can't bench for shit?
>can't
I didn't say that, now did I? Fricking pussy that can't even use 60lb dumbbells, kek. Honestly I'm not even in a confrontational mood anymore. I got the anger out of my system. If you want to keep seething, whatever
>100 pullups in 80 seconds
Of course you did.
Stop coping and go to the gym
Learn to read. 100 PUSHUPS in a minute and 20 seconds with 45lb on my back as a 16 yr old. NOT pullups. Pullups are significantly more difficult.
>100 pushups in 80 seconds
Of course you did.
Stop coping and go to the gym
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-push-ups-in-one-minute-with-a-40-lb-pack
Or stay here reeeeeeeing, honestly it's been pretty entertaining. I literally lol'd when I realized you weren't trolling
>https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-push-ups-in-one-minute-with-a-40-lb-pack
Aaaaaahahahahahahah OP is so dumb.
Congrats on your world record, OP.
Holy shiiiiit I actually broke that world record without even knowing. I'm depressed now. I also curled a 20lb dumbbell 1800 times per arm without stopping. That was probably a WR too.
Holy frick I'm actually fricking depressed about that. I wish I never saw that. Welp, I'm pissed again.
>Curled a 20lb dumbbell 1800 times per arm without stopping
Of course you did.
Stop coping and go to the gym
LMAO this guy is so intimidated by my teen version when that version of me doesn't even exist anymore.
Here. Frick it. https://suicideproject.org/2016/10/suicide-short-male/
^A note I wrote in TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
Imagine thinking I made this shit up for SEVEN FRICKING YEARS LMAO
Bruh, I hope you feel better today. The good advices you received still hold true though.
Limbs surgery is moronic and you should cut.
Tbh my torture never ended. I just got better at enduring it.
who stopped you?
also it wasn't a person. Might have been my fear of hell overwhelming me.
>Here. Frick it. https://suicideproject.org/2016/10/suicide-short-male/
>^A note I wrote in TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
>Imagine thinking I made this shit up for SEVEN FRICKING YEARS LMAO
Telling yourself a lie in the moment doesn't make it more true
I knew someone who to this day swears they worked "130 hour weeks" and brings it up any time people discuss "working hard" or anything about professional effort. I lived with them during the period and even drove them to work sometimes. I know that it's an unhinged exaggeration, but there's nothing that could possibly convince them otherwise. When your mind anchors on an exaggeration, it writes it into your memory and makes up justifications for the lie.
You sound like someone who has been struggling with mental health issues for a really long time. You should get help
Here's some help: I simulated your body. To make it look like you, i had to set it to "1 hour a week" of exercise
Seek help
And go to the gym
Holy shit, just shut the frick up with the cope already. You asked for evidence. I don't have a time machine. If you don't think documentation like this is proof, I don't care. I have no idea why my teen version intimidates you that much, but he's gone. He can't hurt you.
>muh emo Tumblr post from high school should be all the proof you need to trust my obviously fabricated claims
No one is intimidated by you, and deflecting actual responses to your original and ongoing confusion over why you look like shit at your weight/height combo with "post body, pussy y u scared?" Is some hilariously on the nose Napoleon complex shit.
90% of responses have not said "I look better than you" they've said "your bodyweight is more from fat then you realize". Put away the hurt and engage with the actual feedback.
Personally? I look better than you. I'm also a hilarious dyel lanklet (6'4" 185). Could you or your fictitious world record breaking teenage self kick my ass? Probably, but this thread isn't "who can beat me up", it's "why do I look like a fat troll?"
It's because you're a fat troll.
Go to the gym
Seek help
>fabricated
Is this really the part of the thread where I do the math to show you that "I did 3600 20 lb dumbbell curls in 2 uninterrupted hours" is something you made up? I know you b***hed out of engineering because "math hard", but you need to have at least SOME ability to reason through things.
Everything about you screams mental health issues.
Seek help.
And go to the gym.
Lmao I can't believe how hard this guy is seething just because he can't cope with what I did as a teenager
>It HAD to be fake!!! My ego can't take it!
>And for the pullups as well. I used to do 100 in a minute and 20 seconds
Even if you meant pushups that's probably with horrendous form.
Your current program seems moronic as well, why dont you go to an actual gym and use proper equipment instead?
You don't look big because you have a high body fat %. It is litterally that simple.
That sound you can hear is laughter, not seething
No, the fact that people don't post bodies, make exaggerated claims, and put words in my mouth is clear signs of seethe. You know it's true.
I stopped growing at about 14 so chances are my plates closed by then too. At 16 it's definitely beyond too late. Nothing I can do about it now besides surgeries at this point
Height doesn't mean jack shit if you're a lanklet. It does if you're an actual body builder though. Not casual muscle, but straight up body builder (230lb-300lb). Also weight classes exist for a reason. End of the day brute force>height and/or skill hence why realistically no one can actually kick a bears ass. Claws and teeth aside, their weight class is what makes them a powerful foe
You're not an actual body builder though. I mean, not in the real sense of the word. You're just a deluded fatty.
>I stopped growing at about 14 so chances are my plates closed by then too. At 16 it's definitely beyond too late. Nothing I can do about it now besides surgeries at this point
What? No, growth plates normally close around 18 and if you stopped growing at 14 its more likely because you didn't produce enough growth hormone.
Maybe, but too late now
Bears are on average 7ft tall and weigh 700lbs, I agree with you but that's a moronic example
Okay, but I don't care lol. As long as the point can get across it's all I really care about
Well here we go, that's north of 20% bf, just cut to 14% and you'll look good
No, I am calm all things considered. Not pissed like earlier, but I'll still address bullshit arguments.
I would scroll down to the third one since the first 2 pics are pretty shit, but yes I should cut too. I'm going to be focusing on my stomach now. I was more or less ignoring that area
>where
for you:
>the fact that people don't post bodies, make exaggerated claims, and put words in my mouth is clear signs of seethe. You know it's true.
use critical thinking and you can figure it out next time without my help
I did though. Stop coping just because my teen version intimidates you. I'm not my teen version anymore. Stop being scared.
>Stop coping just because my teen version intimidates you. I'm not my teen version anymore. Stop being scared.
Boy has anyone ever coped this hard.
No-one's scared of a teenage midget, bro, I promise you.
You are literally in denial about my teen workouts. The evidence speaks for itself.
Lol what evidence? You have presented NONE. I'm genuinely wondering what your IQ is because holy shit, dude. Holy shit.
>Lol what evidence? You have presented NONE
You think recorded myself or some shit? LMAO what the frick do you expect? The best evidence I can give are notes I've written about this that spans for years i.e. suicide notes from like 2015 or someshit like that where I mentioned that exact training, but I KNOW if I post it, you STILL will cope and say I never did that
You are fat, poor, ugly and definitely a virgin. Also you are moronic
Post body. Mog me. Don't pussy out. All these "roasts" without selfies are worthless.
I already mog you by existing. I don't need you to approve anything. You are insecure, fat, and ugly.
That's a pathetic reply and you know it
You are pathetic, a fat moronic manlet virgin. Name one reason your approval matters. You don't matter.
Blah blah no selfie. You're full of shit
Prove you're worthy. You're a delusional fat manlet. Why does your opinion matter?
No one's opinions "matter".
You look like a chubby fridge. You are nowhere near that guy's bf %. You are probably 25-30% bf.
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It costs about 50k in the fist world and if you were already conscious of it at fricking 16 why didn't you just take growth hormone?
You are fatter than him, I told you the last time you made your schizo posts. Cut to his bf% and you will weigh 140lbs
LMFAOOOO I'm not the equivalent to 140lbs of muscle, pussy. You probably don't even curl 60lb dumbbells. Problem is this board focuses on stomach as if that's the end all be all
I curl 80 lbs dumbbells. You are 30% bodyfat and have reverse body dysmorphia, that's why you look smaller than the guy in the OP. Alphadestiny is the same height as you and he recently cut to 150 lbs
>I curl 80 lbs dumbbells.
Post selfie now. You're also an idiot if you think someone of 140lb is my equivalent. You focus insanely on muh 8 back.
I see you've never cut to single digit bodyfat in your life then. You will be surprised how much fat you're holding on to at this moment, and how much weight you will lose. Alpha destiny was 190 lbs at your height when he was bulking and he was quite a bit lower bodyfat than you, you would hit 130-140 lbs in contest condition
>I see you've never cut to single digit bodyfat in your life then
When I was a teen I used to do 3000 situps without stopping. I used to do 10000 pushups with 45lb (in sets). Curl 20lb dumbbells 1800 tomes per arm. Etc.
*1000 per 40 min in sets. 10k is a typo
When I was doing that shit, I was around 140lb. I looked BEYOND skinny at 140lb. That version of me was more dedicated, but NOT stronger than my current self. No, trimming my stomach won't magically make me lose 50lb. That's not 50lb of fat LMAO.
You can even see youtubers that post their shit show a nasty ass beer belly but can mold it into a 6 pack by flexing fyi. That's how I know you're full of shit by thinking that 1/3rd of my weight is fat LMAO.
Stage 2: denial
you know I'm right 🙂
That's not 50lb worth of mother fricking fat LOL. I'm not saying I'm cut the way I was in my teen years when I did the extreme shit I mentioned above because I'm not like that anymore, but to say it's 50lb of fat is fricking hilarious. Post body btw 🙂
>I curl 80 lb dumbbells
post video Black person
>Problem is this board focuses on stomach as if that's the end all be all
Fricking moron you're asking why you weigh so much while not looking good. The reason is your moronic gut.
You might be strong but you are fat, that's it.
Also, you seem to have a wide waist to begin with.
hey guys. Jay cutter doesn't have a 6 pack here and weighed about 300lb more or less. Because he didn't have a proper 6-8pack here, he's actually 30% body fat apparently LMFAO
Yes, you are totally as lean as Jay in this picture OP. The cope is getting sad
You're a fricking moron for thinking not being cut = 50lb of fat. It shows me you're an even skinnier frick than me (which is pathetic since my body is pathetically small too) and that you have no idea how this works. I can refine my stomach relatively quickly just by training the way I used to and I wouldn't lose 50 fricking pounds if I did so LOL. If anything I might even gain weight since muscle is heavier than fat
I have abs at 235 lbs. I look about as fat as you when I'm 290 lbs
Post the fricking selfie already LOL
And again, my stomach has not been my main focus, but it also isn't 50lb of fat either. That's cope on your end. When I was 140lb, I HAD more of a defined stomach, but your dumbass is literally saying ALLLL the extra weight I got was fat when literally my main diet is salmon and chicken LOL
homie you have zero definition, you have a gut, you have breasts and your arms look like they're made of lard. Go on a cut until you see yout serratus and you'll be 150lbs tops
>homie you have zero definition
you stupid moron. I have a lot of definition that my camera doesn't pick up. You not believing me doesn't change that fact. How I look in the mirror is mot reflected unto my camera.
Again, post selfie already, pussy
And again, dumb b***h. For you:
Also, think, idiot. My upper proportions aren't that big. Literally if I grew my chest, shoulders, teres major, latissimus dorsi, and deltoids out more, it would make my stomach look slimmer by comparison. You can't think that far ahead though, huh?
My solution is to try to gain more upper body muscle. Yours is to try to be as skinny as possible.
someone that curls 80lb dumbells wouldn't be afraid to post a selfie. Just saying 🙂
Tubby dwarf is getting mad 🙂
>no selfie
Lol 🙂
Fyi I know I look like shit on camera. In real life with the quality of human eyes, it's like night and day
Then why don't you just stop making threads about being insecure about your limb length? Just deal with your physique and master your strengths while covering your weaknesses as much as humanly possible.
Because that's pathetic. Being short is a deformity
You said you curl 80lb dumbbells, have a 6 pack, and weigh 235lb of pure muscle. If ANY of that were true, you'd have posted a selfie already LOL
I know this may be too difficult for you, but multiple posters are calling you fat
Again, keep coping :).
I am objective. I know I look like shit on my shit camera. Real life I look more defined. Regardless, dumbass above larping as a 235lb body builder that curls 80lb didn't post a selfie for a reason 🙂
The people who call me fat are twinks that want the body of a ballerina
What are your lifts?
I mostly just stick to 60lb dumbbells (various exercises) and pullups with 45lb on my back atm. Will probably work on bicycle situps more often. Will be increasing the dumbbell weight throughout the year. My goal for now is to eventually be able to curl 110lb dumbbells.
And I also want to gain a shit ton more healthy weight. End goal is probably 280lb, but 230-260lb is my "short" term goal
>various exercises
Detail them
There's too many so that's annoying to do. I also don't know them by their formal name. I will consider posting all the pics of the forms I do
😉
This person is 5'10, how much do they weigh here?
Hmmm. I can't tell at all. Somewhere between 160-170lb?
They weigh 154 lbs
leg day skippers should all die
Legs/glutes were ironically their strongest body part
Why is everything a 'haul'? So sick of these socials homosexualry.
Holy shit OP, are you a coffee bean because you clearly came here to get roasted.
Your body fat percentage is high and your musculature is average. That's why you don't look good. It's not your phone; it's your body.
This is cope. Post body, twink
Roasts mean nothing when the twinks don't post selfies to mog
Lol okay here.
Proper diet and ten hours a week for a few years, went from skellymode to this. Still got a way to go but yeah. Doing okay.
>to mog
You're smaller than the average female, you're not mogging anyone
>Plan to get limb lengthening to be 5'10" eventually
Holy shit wat looooooooooooool
Dude limb lengthening is a stupid idea - your nerves will be stretched and in pain the whole time, your muscles won't rebuild properly and you'll be disabled by the time you're in your thirties. Sure you can lengthen the bone but you'll be in too much pain to walk for much of that time, with weirdly short arms compared to your giraffe legs. All for an extra few inches. Limb lengthening is just a trick to get midgets to part with their money, the same way that penis lengthening is designed to do that for dicklets.
Couldn't care less about your "bro science".
1. Surgeon
+
2. Testimonies
Completely disagree with you
You mean the surgeons who make shitloads of money off idiots like you AND the idiots like you think it's great? Well, I'm sold.
Those testimonials happen within a year of the surgery. Ask them again in five years. This is just pure cope, buddy.
moron TESTEMONIIIIIES
Also they can't fricking lie because then you could sue them, moron and they could also lose their license. Frick off with your bro science horseshit
Lol seethe harder, homosexual. And learn how to read.
Yes, they're happy with the results NOW. They give the testimonials shortly after the surgery. Then the pain starts getting worse and worse, the complications set in - but by that point their testimonials are already on the website and convincing morons like you that they're fine. And the doctors have their money so don't give a shit, or tell them "come in for more surgery to fix your complications, that'll be an extra $5k" etc.
Yours is the bro science, bro. You're willing to do everything except eat right and work out to improve your body, and you've convinced yourself that limb lengthening will solve your problems when actually they're just going to make them worse.
I'm autistic too, buddy, I get the moronation, but your moronation here is so bad that you've saving up to ruin your own life. Stop.
>learn how to read
Tb'h I didn't read 99% of your post LOL. Why? Because 1. You're not a fricking surgeon 2. You have no first person testimony 3. Credibility varies based on location/surgeon 4. Bro science = /= real science
Some random frick isn't going to convince me to not get them. It's set in stone
Aight well ruin your own life then, lol, you deserve it. Peace out motherfricker.
Peace out, moron
No shit he'll look bigger than you. LL isn't going to grow your clavicles, arm length or torso moron
I know that, you stupid dumb homosexual. I'm just saying that you'd think taller people would need more weight to bulk up, but in the end even at the same weight I look skinnier. You'd think I'd be able to bulk up much more than I have. Instead I look like a skinny frick. That guy in the OP is a shit example though since that guy uses steroids.. though this might have been before then
Yeah their bones are longer, that means much more cross sectional area to fill out evenly. Any gains they make will be much more visible from far away than a manlet like you.
Well aware, dumb Black person. Could probably still kick your ass though
Yet you can't mog me. Rip
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this is how I know this board is filled with twinks. BMI is trash and a meme because it looks at body and weight ratio. That's it. Doesn't look at muscle mass. Doesn't look at body fat percentage. According to BMI, literally EVERY body builder would be morbidly obese even when they have say 4% body fat percentage
You're right that every body builder registers as obese - but so does every fatass.
Guess which one applies to you. Clue: you've got it wrong.
>so does every fatass.
This isn't fatass tier:
🙂
Lol. Yet another fail from the twink. What a fricking loser. Post body btw. Mog me, b***h. Oh wait. You can't. Lel
I literally posted body earlier and mogged you.
This is me.
That's not a good body, moron. I'm not saying it's trash tier, but it's definitely not intimidating, Lol. Even mine is better. "b-but I kind of have abs!". Big deal, b***h. In my teen years mine were more defined. Me teen version was weaker than my current. More defined abs doesn't magically change that
>Even mine is better
Holy shit you are legitimately either blind or moronic lol. Has anyone on this board ever coped so hard?
Eat better. Go to the gym. That's literally all you have to do.
Dumb b***h. This:
Is patheic
This:
Is stronger than you. Now I'm not saying it's not pathetic too. It's just not as pathetic as yours
>b-but muuuuuh abbbbbsssss
Shut the frick up, twink. That's not some grand achievement. I literally had more when I was 16. I just no longer cared when I got older plus had to restart recently from 0 (few months ago). I can easily cut it just by focusing on it instead of once in a blue moon
OP are you trying to pretend you're not OP here?
Why are you so angry - everyone else in this thread is laughing, I promise you. This is the funniest sperg out I've seen on IST in ages.
>are you trying to pretend you're not OP here?
Why the frick would you think that exactly?
>everyone else in this thread is laughing
the only other person that had the courage to post their body is a twig. I'm getting laughed at by a bunch of femboys with even WORSE bodies than THIS:
LOOOL
Again though, I'm nothing special, but if THAT guy is the best this board has, this board needs to disappear just from the sheer embarrassment of you posers infesting it
Lol I'm not the best this board has, I'm just in better shape than you. Mine is toned, your is kinda flabby and midget-esque.
I find it hilarious how hard you're coping, and how unnecessarily angry you are. Thank you for the entertainment. I'm off to the gym.
>I'm just in better shape than you. Mine is toned, your is kinda flabby and midget-esque.
You literally only have abs over me and are focusing on that as if it's the end all be all. That's fricking sad, dude
Kek okay you're literally blind or coping and I still don't know which. You've not been to the gym in ages, clearly, your macros are probably fricked and rather than improving yourself you're sperging out against everyone here while they laugh at you. THAT's fricking sad dude.
You're not working out. In a year I'll be much bigger. In a year, you'll still be a sperg ranting about how no-one sees your body in the same deluded light you see it.
Lift something. Sort out your macros. It's literally that simple.
You're coping for thinking your body is anything to strive for. All I'm saying is I can kick your ass
Not really, dude. No. I'm 6'2 and training to fight. Maybe if you fell on me from a great height you'd defeat me. Use a set
>training to fight
>training
Day 1? Lol. You know it's true, dumbass.
>use a set
Weak ass telling me to use a set LOL
Month 6.
You're on day 0.
*most of my muscles are bigger. You're just heft. It's largely fat in your case, with a tiny bit of muscle underneath from your teen years.
6 months of karate in a controlled environment. Aaaaaahhhh LMAO
>most of my muscles are bigger. You're just heft. It's largely fat in your case, with a tiny bit of muscle underneath from your teen years.
Definition of cope
OP look in the mirror, I'm begging you. You are a tubby midget. You are coping. You are seething when anyone tries to tell you otherwise. We're all laughing and having a great time at your expense. I don't even do karate, what the frick are you talking about kek?
>moron focusing on "muh abs" again
don't pretend that's not what you're implying, weak pussy
Lol again I HAVEN'T MENTIONED OR IMPLIED ABS ONCE. Anyway, I legit have to get to the gym. Adios moron, it's been a lot of fun from my point of view. Get to the gym and also try fork putdowns x failure
>I HAVEN'T MENTIONED OR IMPLIED ABS ONCE.
It's called reading between the lines, moron hence your emphasis on "tubby". Fricking idiot LOL
This one, stupid ->
And no. That's not 40lb of fat. Maybe like 10lb. Literally all I have to do is focus on it for a few months. Not go anorexic like you and lose weight. The solution to cutting isn't to "be a skinny frick". You can get big and be cut. I just haven't focused on cutting since my teen years.
>haven't focused on cutting since my teen years.
And it shows you lard boy, you fatty pig, you cake snorter, you tendies muncher
It doesn't. This is cope. Literally the ONLY area with fat is LITERALLY just on the stomach area and that fat is 5-10lb at MOST. Not 40lb+. Saying otherwise shows me you lack the ability to be objective and are self conscious over being incredibly underweight. Post body (unless you're the same homosexual above that thinks 6 months of karate means anything).
Dude that bro literally told you he's never done karate, are you moronic?
Oh goodness, that makes such a big difference!!! kek
He didn't specify the exact training, but chances are it's some bullshit in a controlled environment that doesn't translate well to a street fight
Kek being a midget doesn't translate well to a street fight either. I mean, low center of gravity maybe? that might help? But you're going to get your ass handed to you by anyone who's over 5'10
I thought you said you had calmed down - are you sperging out all over again? Go outside.
>That's not 40lb of fat
it's about 40 lbs but 10-15 of it is water which you'll lose quite quickly.
It's not. You lack the ability to use your brain. It's 5-10lb max. Think about what you're saying, moron. You're basically saying I have the equivalent to a 50lb dumbbell worth of fat in my stomach LOL. You have bo idea what the hell you're even talking about.
Here's an example of a guy that lost 50lb. You're saying my stomach is THAT fat. LOOOOOL fricking BLIND. Not to shit talk this guy because I have no beef with him and have no problem with it in itself, but just saying you suck dick at guestimating
You have 10lb on your face alone
Lol. I pissed you off so much you're just looking to make any random roast rather than be objective.
I dont think youve pissed anyone off pal, they're just laughing and calling you moronic. It's a clown show and you're the star attraction
>You're basically saying I have the equivalent to a 50lb dumbbell worth of fat in my stomach
yes, you do.
>You're saying my stomach is THAT fat.
yes, it is, you have birthing hips which means it accumulates more evenly, your example has relatively narrow hips compared to you which creates that look, you've got roughly the same amount of fat.
>yes, you do
You're an idiot. Stopped reading there
No. Again. THIS
is not the same as THIS ->
Simple compare and contras exercise. Do the stomachs look the same? It's not hard to figure out, but if you'd rather roast because you're pissed rather than be objective, than there's nothing more to say
You don't seem to understand what body fat percentage means. You are saying that your total body weight is 190lbs, you look like you have around 20% bf which means that around 20% (38lbs) of your body is composed of fat. This is just a guess though if you know you're exact bf you could do a more accurate calculation.
>You are saying that your total body weight is 190lbs, you look like you have around 20% bf which means that around 20% (38lbs) of your body is composed of fat.
No, YOU don't get it. You are ASSUMING it's 20%
yeah I am just guessing based on how your body looks if you know what the actual exact number is feel free to post it.
I don't actually know how one measures that. I'm genuinely curious myself. It's not 20% though, lol.
Huh? You know Jay Cutter only trains 2 hrs a day, right? You don't have to literally live training. Most of his time body building is actually from eating itself. Dumbass
Bingo
I clearly did, but keep pretending otherwise
How many hours a week do you train for?
>"I clearly did"
Where? You're just seething and assuming that everyone's as angry as you. They're not, we just like laughing at morons.
just look up a bf calculator online you have to measure your waist and neck.
Listen you're really hung up on that one guy telling you to drop 50lb. Just lose weight and you'll look better
Ya. Don't want to lose weight though, want to gain a shit ton more, but I will be cutting too. Have slowly been building up my work ethic. Eventually I might be able to return to my teen levels of dedication.
You're 5'5 you'll never be big, lil manlet. Best you can do is an obese meatball or a girl sized twink. You'll never make it.
OP you said you are 190lbs and you look like you have 20% bf which means you have around 40lbs of fat, sure you can get big and be cut but you have to change your diet from what it currently is because it clearly isn't working for you
PS I didn't mention abs once, moron. kek
You don't have anything other than that over me, dumbass LMAO
Lol point out the areas in which you're better than me; I'll wait. My biceps are bigger, most of my ; I bet you've never done a leg day in your life, your lifts are shit.
>Lol point out the areas in which you're better than me
No they aren't. How much do you weigh? How many LBs do you curl?
and here's mine ->
I legit can define it if I want to in like idk. 1-3 months or some shit? I'm just guessing, but point is it hasn't been my focal point. I hate being a midget, but would hate having your body as is even more.
Fricking kek. Good God, man. I'll keep my body, thanks. Why are you even here? Did you want us to help you with your cope?
Nope, but don't pretend you have a good body. If 5/10 is a average, I give yours a 5.5 and mines a 6. Jay cutter for instance would be a 9.9-10. We're not at that level, but I would be able to absolutely frick you in a fight.
>a
omit that
Lol no I'd just hold you at arms' length while you swing at me with your midget arms.
Again, this isn't a cartoon, weeb :). You're not a skyscraper.
Yes don't post the one where my camera decided to show more detail right?->
Lol
Lmao, are you so mad that you have to (you) me twice? Get a grip you lard-boy
Post selfie, twink
>body and weight
*height and weight
Pretty sure your fist wont even be able to graze my chin you midget
Real life isn't a cartoon, weeb. Drop the anime for a second and touch grass.
BMI is inaccurate because it tells short people they are skinnier than they actually are and tall people they are fatter than they actually are so if anything you are probably more overweight than 31 bmi suggests
This might be a clue, friend:
Kek
a IST flavored schizo thread? nice
I really don't understand how these guys who claim to be reasonably over 6 foot with bulging roid muscles are so relatively lightweight.
Either they're not that tall or roids fail to pack pounds on other places they should or some shit. I know their body fat is basically 0, but muscles are heavier.
Ya idk. Steroids are weird like that.
Holy shit op you are profoundly moronic what even is this
Funniest thread on the board, keep it going fat goblin
Post body 🙂
Isn't it funny how only me and another person has posted a selfie? Just shows how 99% of this board has even worse bodies including this homosexual. Yikes.
OP rn
This, but unironically. All the twinks laughing haven't posted a single selfie which is evidence in itself that you have more pathetic bodies.
Is this not true :)? Of course it is. And the funny thing is I only recently started training from scratch again while you weak homosexuals had years only to look worse. That's sad. Only reason I had stopped all those years ago was also because my height fricked my head. If not, I'd already be at the end goal.
>He's still going
kek I know, right? I'm sort of astonished. If he had spent as much time and energy lifting and fixing his diet maybe he wouldn't be such a lardass
>Shouldn't I look big with my weight and height ratio?
Fat makes you look smaller and weaker. You really don't want more than 12%. I reckon you have the muscle to look significantly bigger if you get down to a more human level of body fat.
>Short height should make it easier to bulk up
Not at fricking all. You also have smaller muscle bellies and a smaller digestive system with which to fuel them. I am honestly miring your bulk. I'm about the same height and I'm stuck at 145lbs.
what is this shit thread
what mental illness causes this
You're probably fat, what's your bodyfat %? I'm 5'6 140 lbs and I look noticeably muscular, if you don't you're just fat.
>body fat %
Legit I'm curious what the actual percent is. How does one check? My doctor doesn't do that shit. He just goes by the dumb BMI crap. I think I remember a device in middle school that checked that shit so I might buy one if I see it online
Buy a cheap scale that can do it, supposedly they're not precise enough but mine seem to work just fine and fit with what I'm looking in the mirror.
From you're pic I'd say you are 20% to 25%, I've been there, with a not too harsh diet it'll take 3 to 6 months to get to a comfy 15%
If you don't mind schizo stuff, it's worth trying binaural nutrition s height subliminal
because he's leaner than you fatty
>limb lengthening
So youre telling me youre a troon. Willing to mutilate your body because youre unsatisfied with its aesthetic
Correct, but it's worse, and more justified than troon surgery. Troons want to change to the opposite form. I want to enhance my current form.
ITT: Midget brownoid with manbreasts hoping some surgery will turn him into the tall nordic chad in his pic
>6'4"
>190lbs
That homie gotta slim frame or something?
At 6'4" and 195lbs I had abs but was way slimmer, less muscle volume than that guy.
I should have used another example. That dude in the op cheated with steroids
Or idk. Might have been cretin and then straight up roids. Regardless he used enhancements. Not an actual natural guy.
Either way I would have expected him to weigh more, like 200-210 or something.
Yeah. I get what you mean. It's hard to wrap my head around it too. It's like a natty has to weigh 30-50lb more or some shit like that just to have similar gains.
>this guy still thinks people are saying he looks bad because of the "lighting"
Considering the fact that people keep using pics 1-2, it's obvious they don't look at pic 3 before responding. I'm not saying pic 3 is amazing, but it's not "obese/pork/lard". That's not an opinion. That's being objective. This board gets a hard on with abs and that's the only area I have with some fat. Not 50lb like some people claim due to seething.
Limb lengthening will destroy you as a man. Men are meant to embody strength, not beauty. Breaking stretching your bones will leave you far weaker and permanently unable to do certain things, leaving you less of a man despite being taller. Don't do it anon.
No c**t on this planet is worth the hell you're going to go through if you get that surgery. Do not do it. You will absolutely regret it.
Lol. They literally started it by calling me obese and saying I have 50lb worth of fat which is complete nonsense. They might as well have said 3000lb of fat. Would have been just as nonsensical. The twinks that shit talked asked for it.
Actually, after reading some of your replies to people, go ahead and do it. You deserve what you're going to go through.
Been a while since a good schizo thread
I don't want to trash talk you, but the reality is that there are no 5'6 190 pound lean naturals. I'm not sure if you claim natty or not.
Go onto yt and watch alphadestiny. You can go to his catalog of vids from when he was 180 or 190 and claimed he was 12 percent bodyfat and also his lean states where he dropped down to 150s multiple times. He looks much better at the lower weight. Even he was trolled for not realizing that he was actually fat at 180-190. Even he didn't admit .. until he cut and realized how fat he was.
I know you posted a "bad pic" but compared to AD you don't look more muscular than he did at that same weight.
It's 2023, i'm sure you can find a camera that will get you a better pic.
Again, I'm no fan of AD but he is probably the best example of someone of similar height who held similar weight and has a body that is close to what you're looking for.
>reality is that there are no 5'6 190 pound lean naturals. I'm not sure if you claim natty or not.
You fell for the twink propaganda. Idk what else to tell you. Not even trying to be an butthole here, but you don't need steroids to get big, Lol. That's cope. You need to destroy muscle while training and eat foods with proteins. There's no magical reason why this wouldn't work.
There is no way the guy in picrel is 190 lbs. I weigh 200 lbs at 6’5 and look much smaller than that
you are very likely not as lean though, he looks absolutely diced so I'm buying the 190 lbs. I lose a shitton of water weight when I even go from 12% to sub 10%
The guy in the OP is 190 lbs at 8%, probably walks around at 210-220 lbs ~12% (still lean with full ab separation) and will be bulking to mid 200s bodyweight (250-260 lbs) before he loses his abs. Stage-ready bodybuilders lose a shitton of bodyweight, it's similar with fighters who just cut imminently
Yea he is definitely lower bf than me but, and correct me if Im wrong here, shouldnt I still look bigger than him (not in muscle mass but just body size) seeing as I have more fat which is less dense than muscle and therefore takes up more volume. Unless if he is doing some serious camera frauding I don’t understand how he could look that big at 190
low bodyfat makes you look bigger since it brings out muscle definition (it's a bit of an illusion). Also, you should always think in equivalent bodyweight seeing as a high-bf% skinnyfat 220 lbs guy will look smaller than an athletic 190 lbs by virtue of weight distribution - the skinnyfat guy will hold a lot in his gut while the athletic guy will have it in his shoulders/pecs/arms, making him appear bigger
You look like a typical fat Mexican.
>Plan to get limb lengthening to be 5'10"