logical fallacy, keeping weight down is more likely to keep a stroke from happening.
Therefore using meat fats to cook is more likely to prevent stroke since you are directly promoting weight loss.
>Therefore using meat fats to cook
You don't need to cook it like that
Most meat already have fat on its own
>what if we make conclusions on health based on people self-reporting what they ate last year and don't give a shit of how fat or active they are >what if we categorize McDonald's Big Macs as "red meat" and totally disregard everything else about the meal and entrée
Also a little bit of butter goes a long way. The same can't be said about vegetable oil.
>Also a little bit of butter goes a long way. The same can't be said about vegetable oil.
Both are unhealthy
>butter >unhealthy
it's literally just animal fat, it's not inherently bad or good in any moderated dosage.
problem is there is no moderate amount of vegetable oil, even the smallest drop is multiple portions worth of vegetable's processed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Saturated fats should always be avoided
3 months ago
Anonymous
>t.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Unhealthy according to what? The "study" featuring people self reporting Big Macs as red meat? The "study" from the time where they thought it was saturated fats and not smoking causing heart disease? It's absolutely laughable how flimsy these "studies" are when it's so obvious it was just the FDA trying to encourage people to eat corn and corn byproducts.
3 months ago
Anonymous
> Unhealthy according to what?
The vast preponderance of the evidence
3 months ago
Anonymous
All studies are fake news except for this one youtube presentation by Chris Knobbe
>observational studies
IN. THE. TRASH.
Your dementia is already showing from your chronic K2 and Iron deficiencies.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>search engine with 10s of thousands of studies listed >"observational"
kys
3 months ago
Anonymous
the clinical trials disprove it so theyre wrong and can be thrown in the trash
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he actually thinks there's 10s of thousands >he thinks there's actual human trials not just observational studies run by vegans >inb4 blue zone
Your chronic deficiencies are really affecting your brain.
https://i.imgur.com/015nycn.jpg
>trusting any search engine in 2024 >disregarding good morning sirs SEO shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
I've never seen someone so entirely dependent on reaction images. Don't you have some sort of vegan TikTok to watch?
3 months ago
Anonymous
observational studies on nutrition are unreliable
3 months ago
Anonymous
Say you're underaged without saying it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
observational studies on nutrition are unreliable
3 months ago
Anonymous
especially when the researchers have an agenda
it was really funny when they said steak cause diabetes
3 months ago
Anonymous
thats why outcomes are "adjusted" to fit whatever the agenda of the day is
3 months ago
Anonymous
> observational studies on nutrition are unreliable
According to you
3 months ago
Anonymous
>We repeat that figure: 0 out of 52. To put it another way, 100% of the observational claims failed to replicate. In fact, five claims (9.6%) are statistically significant in the clinical trials in the opposite direction to the observational claim. To us, a false discovery rate of over 80% is potent evidence that the observational study process is not in control. The problem, which has been recognised at least since 1988, is systemic.
https://academic.oup.com/jrssig/article/8/3/116/7030037
fixed but youre still wrong
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he actually thinks there's 10s of thousands >he thinks there's actual human trials not just observational studies run by vegans >inb4 blue zone
Your chronic deficiencies are really affecting your brain.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>trusting any search engine in 2024 >disregarding good morning sirs SEO shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562735/
here's one spoon-fed to ya.
Post body. Surely with all that evidence you look amazing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
total cope.
3 months ago
Anonymous
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562735/
here's one spoon-fed to ya.
>self-reporting observational studies
Why yes i ate 17 ounces of butter on Wednesday the 8th of August at approximately 7:14pm, i remember clearly!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>self-reporting observational studies
aka n=1 studies.
yet >peer-review scientific studies. >scientific empiricism
okay, skeptic, better watch out for the bogey man.
/misc/ is that way.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>scientific empiricism
Uhh ok chud, like I’m going to believe something that was 100% the result of white supremacy
3 months ago
Anonymous
What did you eat on October 4, 2023 at 8:30pm? Cant remember?
Weird, this reply is an observational study question. Just make it up anon, the science will figure itself out
What did you eat on October 4, 2023 at 8:30pm? Cant remember?
Weird, this reply is an observational study question. Just make it up anon, the science will figure itself out
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well as an honest vegan obviously he ate approximately 3 pounds of pineapple
3 months ago
Anonymous
tell that to the vegan posting google.com as a resource
>replying to yourself
all this cope and seethe, yet you're still obese
3 months ago
Anonymous
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562735/
here's one spoon-fed to ya.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Most recent meta-analyses of randomized trials and observational studies found no beneficial effects of reducing SFA intake on cardiovascular disease (CVD) and total mortality, and instead found protective effects against stroke.
saturated fat chads stay winning
3 months ago
Anonymous
smoothie king take
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not him, but fits the bill
3 months ago
Anonymous
>problem is there is no moderate amount of vegetable oil,
Irrelevant. It's roughly the same as butter
3 months ago
Anonymous
Logical fallacy, animal fat does not disrupt normal hormonal processes in the amounts needed to cook.
Vegetable oil does, because you are not meant to ingest multiple portions of vegetable material in less than a tablespoon of a substance.
We can do this all day kid.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Bro science
3 months ago
Anonymous
Agreed, it's bro science that vegetable oil is in any way healthy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I explicitly said it was unhealthy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
calling it broscience is being too lenient on the medical profession as a whole being completely bought out and morally bankrupted by agricultural interests
3 months ago
Anonymous
>vegetable oil becomes norm >obesity rises, IQ lowers, autism becomes more commonplace
UN just announced it wants Muricans to eat less meat and that is a major goal for them in the next couple of years.
It's starting, get on the right side of history.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>there's nothing wrong with the highly processed oil made with vegetable scraps that only exists as a cheap fatty filler to save some israelite 5 sheckles or for frying donuts and fries
Unhealthy according to what? The "study" featuring people self reporting Big Macs as red meat? The "study" from the time where they thought it was butter and not smoking causing heart disease? It's absolutely laughable how flimsy these "studies" are when it's so obvious it was just the FDA trying to encourage people to eat corn and corn byproducts.
>meat fats to cook is more likely to prevent stroke since you are directly promoting weight loss.
There's nothing magical about fat from meat moron. They have the same calories. You're trading inflammation for atherosclerosis.
Obesity is the leading cause of heart disease and all other cardiovascular diseases. Beating out even the heaviest of smokers.
People who cook with animal fats are thinner on average, therefore reducing mortality from all known human diseases.
You can be upset and you can shill, but you're still wrong.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>People who cook with animal fats are thinner on average
Eating fat doesn't make you lose weight
Wtf. That's the thing we expect to see on tiktok
3 months ago
Anonymous
Eating certain fats promotes weight gain from lowering metabolic rate and hormone conversion.
Thus you promote obesity.
This does not in anyway negate CICO and you're coping hard.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh god
I've never said fat is useless
3 months ago
Anonymous
Deflecting, you stated eating fat doesn't promote weightloss.
Eating animal based fats directly promotes the healthiest metabolic rate and therefore promotes weightloss.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Eating animal based fats directly promotes the healthiest metabolic rate and therefore promotes weightloss.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>People who cook with animal fats are thinner on average
3 months ago
Anonymous
>all the people cooking with animal fat from the dawn of time until the proliferation of vegetable oils were fat
3 months ago
Anonymous
...
??? >muh ancestors
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, you know, the ones that lived in the US in the 1920s stupid fricking Black person
3 months ago
Anonymous
Do I seriously need to prove to you that before the late 1970s people were objectively skinnier?
We know this as fact, it was so commonplace to cook with animal fats at this point in history and almost all of those persons are nearly half the body fat of their same age peer today.
You can be mad, but you're going to cope.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>muh magical animal fats were the reason people weren't as fat in the past
Nah, CICO you useless pile of blubber.
3 months ago
Anonymous
A wonder which extremely lowly nutrition but extremely high calorie additive started being put in everything? Any guesses?
3 months ago
Anonymous
HFCS? Basedbean oil?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah pretty much. Vegans defend them because they're vegetables apparently.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>udderly noorished
3 months ago
Anonymous
Interesting strawman. Are you about to suggest the butter has no micronutrients? It's okay, I already answered my question.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>just 7500 more calories to get my daily value of Vitamin k!!
i am noorished. lubricated
actually.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's interesting how vegans are so stressed and brain-fogged they're only capable of straw man arguments.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>THE VEGANS!!!
pic rel. is from my last bulk. Where are your gods now tub tub?
3 months ago
Anonymous
this moron thinks olive oil is "vegetable oil" huh
3 months ago
Anonymous
The doctors says my veins are too noorished.
Fortunately, I know the truth. Those are healthy plaques in my arteries and only inflammation caused by unhealthy foods like fruits and vegetables can cause them to rupture.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon it's pretty clear now that you're emotionally unbalanced due to lack of dietary fat and cholesterol. You're actually so ignorant you actually think olive oil is "vegetable oil" which is just icing on the cake. Way to out yourself as a 90 IQ mouth breather.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you eat olive oil? >oy gevalt, why do you think olive oil is vegetable oil? >you see, brain damage
3 months ago
Anonymous
Are you even capable of original thought? Of course not, you think olives are a vegetable.
3 months ago
Anonymous
yet he still hasn't gotten a heart attack? All that butter should've clogged every artery in his body by now
Why do ketolards think it's ok to rape children?
3 months ago
Anonymous
yet he still hasn't gotten a heart attack? All that butter should've clogged every artery in his body by now
3 months ago
Anonymous
nobody seriously thinks fruits and vegetables are causing heart attacks. Its the seed oils and sugar which people mostly get from junk food
3 months ago
Anonymous
the cheapest crap butter on your propaganda website is still more nutritious than olive oil
3 months ago
Anonymous
this moron thinks olive oil is "vegetable oil" huh
Anon you're arguing with someone who thinks olives are a vegetable.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>bananas
ooga booga Black personboi
3 months ago
Anonymous
great now what nutrients are in seed oils? Surely much more than the evil butter
3 months ago
Anonymous
Actually yes. You can get your TDEE for Vitamin E and K from olive oil alone. Butter will only get you vitamin A. And thats at 2000 calories from it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>olive oil is a seed oil
3 months ago
Anonymous
>"according to our tour guide, Doumanian, the olive oil is made with a very special process where the whole olive, including the pit, is crushed in an ATON 500 olive press, which has capabilities to capture all of the oils and the sensitive phenol contents, to think..."
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's interesting how bad faith you are in your efforts to defend canola and soibean oil.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>olive oil is a seed oil
...
??? >why are you defending canola oil???
Imagine having failed so hard in life that you're an actual butter shill on IST.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No one sane would classify olive oil as a "seed oil". Anyways, I'm skipping out on your moronation. Enjoy your early onset Alzheimer's from your chronic lack of saturated fat.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Does it hurt your feelings, being called out for what you really are?
A butter shill on IST.
3 months ago
Anonymous
post your propaganda website for olive oil and let's see that vitamin K. Which isn't K2 anyway
3 months ago
Anonymous
>get btfo on PUFA sneed oils >swaps to olive oil (MUFA fruit oil) instead
You're hammering your chat gpt posts but you don't even know basic nutrition. You act like an Indian bot.
Don't even bother responding, you got btfo.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>olive oil is a seed oil
post your propaganda website for olive oil and let's see that vitamin K. Which isn't K2 anyway
Uh it is the same for basedbean oil too boys. Even has selenium
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I can tell you're girl brained
3 months ago
Anonymous
AND canola oil. Oh boy the butter boys must be fuming on how shitty their lard looks in comparison.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>so contrarian he's prepared to defend canola oil
3 months ago
Anonymous
>nooooo you must blame all your problems in life on pressed vegetables! you can't just hold yourself accountable! WE ARE THE VICTIMS.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes I'll blame the rise in diabetes and dementia on vegetable oils.
3 months ago
Anonymous
if it were that simple you could make it at home. Its not and you cant. I can make butter at home not canola oil
3 months ago
Anonymous
> zero vitamin A > zero vitamin D > zero vitamin K2 > the vitamin E is added because the canola oil is so toxic
butter is more nutritious as I said. Even your propaganda website agrees with me
3 months ago
Anonymous
You literally cannot get your TDEE on Vitamin D and K2 from butter alone. While you can get your Vitamin E and K intake from from seed oil alone. It is not more nutritious. I can't understand how you are too stupid to understand that. >propaganda website
It literally just lists the nutritional information of foods. Lmao since when did IST get so left wing? It's just data. No need to be upset over it. >Bawwww the numbers aren't fair! They need to fit MY agenda
3 months ago
Anonymous
WRONG THE SHIT IN SEED OIL IS NOT BIOAVAILABLE
3 months ago
Anonymous
it lists nutrients with no regard to their availability to the human body. Vitamin A from carrots is not the same as vitamin A from butter. Vitamin D from mushrooms is not the same as vitamin D from butter. Vitamin K is plant oil is not the same as Vitamin K from butter. These are undisputed facts your propaganda website willfully ignores
3 months ago
Anonymous
post body
let’s see what this superior knowledge of nutrition can do for a person
3 months ago
Anonymous
>when the 1% daily value of Vitamin B1 is 100% bioavailable
3 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/B2ednYT.png
AND canola oil. Oh boy the butter boys must be fuming on how shitty their lard looks in comparison.
Canola oil is just another name for RapeSEED oil. The oil is extracted from the seeds of the plant's flower, not from the plant. >made from vegetables its healthy
Hemlock is a vegetable. But that doesn't mean it's healthy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
sorry my mom said flowers are pretty so that makes you wrong
3 months ago
Anonymous
You have to be 18 to post here.
3 months ago
Anonymous
tell that to the vegan posting google.com as a resource
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hemlock isn’t a vegetable moron. Vegetable doesn’t mean “plant”
3 months ago
Anonymous
all vegetables are plants not all plants are vegetables
3 months ago
Anonymous
>new vaccine scheduled rolled out around the same time as seed oils replace animal fats >diseases increase
C'mon ketoschizo, even you know it's the vaccines that are causing all this shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Olive oil is not a seed oil.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>squeeze the olives >with the pit* (seed)
3 months ago
Anonymous
wheres the metal chelator, chemical solvent, industrial detergents and deodorizing like my other "heart healthy" oils?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Kek. Reminds me of that one butter Infograph which points out how butter has all the nutrients, but if you look closely they all say 0.05%
Whatever makes fatties feel better about gorging on lard I guess.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>gorging on lard
and gorge they will.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Animal fat (actual lard) is good for you, homosexual. Where do you think actual nutrients are in a piece of meat? Its usually stockpiled in the fat, so eat up.
3 months ago
Anonymous
considering the widespread vitamin D deficiency this would be a move in the right direction. Grass fed butter has even more nutrients
3 months ago
Anonymous
But isn't the excess calories largely due to the vegetable oils? I read that somewhere that they do account for a lot if not all of it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
most of the caloric increase in the past half century has been in sugar and refined carbohydrates. But over that time period there has been a larger switch from animal fats to seed oils
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's so obvious why we overeat when you commit to home cooking, even homemade bread with raw ingredients isn't hyper-palatable like the shit they serve in restaurants.
3 months ago
Anonymous
yeah the switch from home cooking to eating out all the time has been pretty drastic
3 months ago
Anonymous
Didnt refute anything I said. Being a leader doesn't mean jack shit. Maybe if you eliminated heart disease with obesity it would matter but stuffing your face with saturated fats means you're going to die in 10 years. End of story. Doesn't matter what your fricking weight is. You're only proving what an idiot you are but using fat lazy fricks as the excuse for their nutrition being the cause.
3 months ago
Anonymous
According to what? Your "studies"? LMAO
LOL
3 months ago
Anonymous
>saturated fats means you're going to die
there's no good evidence saturated fat is any worse than any other fat
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're joking right?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>one time we collected self-reported dietary information from fatties and made conclusions about food they ate based on our vegan sensibilities >we of course completely avoided making any real sensical conclusions, instead we did our best to make the vegan group look healthy and the meat eating group to look unhealthy
Post study. Thanks
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's also plenty of actual scientific evidence that saturated fat is required for hormone production.
>meat fats to cook is more likely to prevent stroke since you are directly promoting weight loss.
There's nothing magical about fat from meat moron. They have the same calories. You're trading inflammation for atherosclerosis.
>what if we make conclusions on health based on people self-reporting what they ate last year and don't give a shit of how fat or active they are >what if we categorize McDonald's Big Macs as "red meat" and totally disregard everything else about the meal and entrée
Also a little bit of butter goes a long way. The same can't be said about vegetable oil.
It's considered a heart healthy oil. If you're suggesting too much of it is bad then you're engaging in "nutritional terrorism." Report yourself to the fbi you sick, hamas supporting, russian hacker, chinese communist!
why hasn't anyone posted the fat tiktok mutt drinking oil? her butthole must be extremely well lubed from all those oily shits (not proud to admit it but would)
Dude it just doesn't fricking matter
You should be eating so much fat that these Boogeyman seed oils are such a low percentage of your overall intake that it just doesn't matter at all whatsoever
This will sound like a doomer American schizo post but it has already evolved into a zero sum game. Food regulations are the only way forward. Lolberts will disagree while they simultaneously pour a hundred hours or more into sourcing better dairy eggs and beef for their families, not giving a damn about public health or those not born with their same 'tism. (I also have this 'tism).
You should be able to buy a sammich, empanada, gyro etc without it being full of seed oil. You should be able to buy enough land to farm without debt slavery if that's what you want to do with your life. The only way this system can be stopped is massive rewilding conservation efforts globally + more room for restorative ranching (family enterprise only) and harsh food regulations against globohomo. It's either that or the pod life lab meat seed oil maxxer types will win. There is no middle ground in the big picture of all this frens.
For now sneed oil is simply cheaper but in time even upscale and family restaurants will not be allowed to use tallow, butter, real olive oil etc. They will price out the land in white countries and prevent you from buying seeds like in the US/Canada during lockdowns. Look at what's going on in Europe right now especially in Brussels, France, the Netherlands, Germany, the governments and financial powers are trying to destroy family farming there because they want the land and want us to eat only what they approve. Against any legitimate questions or reasoning they simply demand it. There can be no compromise then and we must use government while we can.
It's cheap. But consumed in minor doses is largely safe
Do not engage in nutritional terrorism. Doing the basics will keep your health in check
source?
>in minor doses
>graph is 15 years out of date
and?
Damn you're right that's why I've been noticing so many ingredient lists not featuring vegetable oil - oh wait, they do probably more than ever.
>the trend at the end of the 15 years was going down not spiking wildly upwards
If you choose the other 3 options you DIE or get a stroke. It's a lot easier to just lose weight.
logical fallacy, keeping weight down is more likely to keep a stroke from happening.
Therefore using meat fats to cook is more likely to prevent stroke since you are directly promoting weight loss.
>Therefore using meat fats to cook
You don't need to cook it like that
Most meat already have fat on its own
>Also a little bit of butter goes a long way. The same can't be said about vegetable oil.
Both are unhealthy
>butter
>unhealthy
it's literally just animal fat, it's not inherently bad or good in any moderated dosage.
problem is there is no moderate amount of vegetable oil, even the smallest drop is multiple portions worth of vegetable's processed.
Saturated fats should always be avoided
>t.
Unhealthy according to what? The "study" featuring people self reporting Big Macs as red meat? The "study" from the time where they thought it was saturated fats and not smoking causing heart disease? It's absolutely laughable how flimsy these "studies" are when it's so obvious it was just the FDA trying to encourage people to eat corn and corn byproducts.
> Unhealthy according to what?
The vast preponderance of the evidence
All studies are fake news except for this one youtube presentation by Chris Knobbe
>evidence
Links?
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&q=saturated+fat+heart+disease&oq=saturated+fat+hear
>observational studies
IN. THE. TRASH.
Your dementia is already showing from your chronic K2 and Iron deficiencies.
>search engine with 10s of thousands of studies listed
>"observational"
kys
the clinical trials disprove it so theyre wrong and can be thrown in the trash
I've never seen someone so entirely dependent on reaction images. Don't you have some sort of vegan TikTok to watch?
Say you're underaged without saying it.
observational studies on nutrition are unreliable
especially when the researchers have an agenda
it was really funny when they said steak cause diabetes
thats why outcomes are "adjusted" to fit whatever the agenda of the day is
> observational studies on nutrition are unreliable
According to you
>We repeat that figure: 0 out of 52. To put it another way, 100% of the observational claims failed to replicate. In fact, five claims (9.6%) are statistically significant in the clinical trials in the opposite direction to the observational claim. To us, a false discovery rate of over 80% is potent evidence that the observational study process is not in control. The problem, which has been recognised at least since 1988, is systemic.
https://academic.oup.com/jrssig/article/8/3/116/7030037
fixed but youre still wrong
>he actually thinks there's 10s of thousands
>he thinks there's actual human trials not just observational studies run by vegans
>inb4 blue zone
Your chronic deficiencies are really affecting your brain.
>trusting any search engine in 2024
>disregarding good morning sirs SEO shit
Post body. Surely with all that evidence you look amazing.
total cope.
>self-reporting observational studies
Why yes i ate 17 ounces of butter on Wednesday the 8th of August at approximately 7:14pm, i remember clearly!
>self-reporting observational studies
aka n=1 studies.
yet
>peer-review scientific studies.
>scientific empiricism
okay, skeptic, better watch out for the bogey man.
/misc/ is that way.
>scientific empiricism
Uhh ok chud, like I’m going to believe something that was 100% the result of white supremacy
pp
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10495817/
What did you eat on October 4, 2023 at 8:30pm? Cant remember?
Weird, this reply is an observational study question. Just make it up anon, the science will figure itself out
Well as an honest vegan obviously he ate approximately 3 pounds of pineapple
>replying to yourself
all this cope and seethe, yet you're still obese
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562735/
here's one spoon-fed to ya.
>Most recent meta-analyses of randomized trials and observational studies found no beneficial effects of reducing SFA intake on cardiovascular disease (CVD) and total mortality, and instead found protective effects against stroke.
saturated fat chads stay winning
smoothie king take
Not him, but fits the bill
>problem is there is no moderate amount of vegetable oil,
Irrelevant. It's roughly the same as butter
Logical fallacy, animal fat does not disrupt normal hormonal processes in the amounts needed to cook.
Vegetable oil does, because you are not meant to ingest multiple portions of vegetable material in less than a tablespoon of a substance.
We can do this all day kid.
Bro science
Agreed, it's bro science that vegetable oil is in any way healthy.
I explicitly said it was unhealthy.
calling it broscience is being too lenient on the medical profession as a whole being completely bought out and morally bankrupted by agricultural interests
>vegetable oil becomes norm
>obesity rises, IQ lowers, autism becomes more commonplace
UN just announced it wants Muricans to eat less meat and that is a major goal for them in the next couple of years.
It's starting, get on the right side of history.
>there's nothing wrong with the highly processed oil made with vegetable scraps that only exists as a cheap fatty filler to save some israelite 5 sheckles or for frying donuts and fries
Unhealthy according to what? The "study" featuring people self reporting Big Macs as red meat? The "study" from the time where they thought it was butter and not smoking causing heart disease? It's absolutely laughable how flimsy these "studies" are when it's so obvious it was just the FDA trying to encourage people to eat corn and corn byproducts.
thin people get clogged arteries, strokes and heart attacks you moron.
Obesity is the leading cause of heart disease and all other cardiovascular diseases. Beating out even the heaviest of smokers.
People who cook with animal fats are thinner on average, therefore reducing mortality from all known human diseases.
You can be upset and you can shill, but you're still wrong.
>People who cook with animal fats are thinner on average
Eating fat doesn't make you lose weight
Wtf. That's the thing we expect to see on tiktok
Eating certain fats promotes weight gain from lowering metabolic rate and hormone conversion.
Thus you promote obesity.
This does not in anyway negate CICO and you're coping hard.
Oh god
I've never said fat is useless
Deflecting, you stated eating fat doesn't promote weightloss.
Eating animal based fats directly promotes the healthiest metabolic rate and therefore promotes weightloss.
>Eating animal based fats directly promotes the healthiest metabolic rate and therefore promotes weightloss.
>People who cook with animal fats are thinner on average
>all the people cooking with animal fat from the dawn of time until the proliferation of vegetable oils were fat
...
???
>muh ancestors
Yeah, you know, the ones that lived in the US in the 1920s stupid fricking Black person
Do I seriously need to prove to you that before the late 1970s people were objectively skinnier?
We know this as fact, it was so commonplace to cook with animal fats at this point in history and almost all of those persons are nearly half the body fat of their same age peer today.
You can be mad, but you're going to cope.
>muh magical animal fats were the reason people weren't as fat in the past
Nah, CICO you useless pile of blubber.
A wonder which extremely lowly nutrition but extremely high calorie additive started being put in everything? Any guesses?
HFCS? Basedbean oil?
Yeah pretty much. Vegans defend them because they're vegetables apparently.
>udderly noorished
Interesting strawman. Are you about to suggest the butter has no micronutrients? It's okay, I already answered my question.
>just 7500 more calories to get my daily value of Vitamin k!!
i am noorished. lubricated
actually.
It's interesting how vegans are so stressed and brain-fogged they're only capable of straw man arguments.
>THE VEGANS!!!
pic rel. is from my last bulk. Where are your gods now tub tub?
this moron thinks olive oil is "vegetable oil" huh
The doctors says my veins are too noorished.
Fortunately, I know the truth. Those are healthy plaques in my arteries and only inflammation caused by unhealthy foods like fruits and vegetables can cause them to rupture.
Anon it's pretty clear now that you're emotionally unbalanced due to lack of dietary fat and cholesterol. You're actually so ignorant you actually think olive oil is "vegetable oil" which is just icing on the cake. Way to out yourself as a 90 IQ mouth breather.
>you eat olive oil?
>oy gevalt, why do you think olive oil is vegetable oil?
>you see, brain damage
Are you even capable of original thought? Of course not, you think olives are a vegetable.
Why do ketolards think it's ok to rape children?
yet he still hasn't gotten a heart attack? All that butter should've clogged every artery in his body by now
nobody seriously thinks fruits and vegetables are causing heart attacks. Its the seed oils and sugar which people mostly get from junk food
the cheapest crap butter on your propaganda website is still more nutritious than olive oil
concession accepted.
Butter > olive oil >>>>>> seed oils
Anon you're arguing with someone who thinks olives are a vegetable.
>bananas
ooga booga Black personboi
great now what nutrients are in seed oils? Surely much more than the evil butter
Actually yes. You can get your TDEE for Vitamin E and K from olive oil alone. Butter will only get you vitamin A. And thats at 2000 calories from it.
>olive oil is a seed oil
>"according to our tour guide, Doumanian, the olive oil is made with a very special process where the whole olive, including the pit, is crushed in an ATON 500 olive press, which has capabilities to capture all of the oils and the sensitive phenol contents, to think..."
It's interesting how bad faith you are in your efforts to defend canola and soibean oil.
>olive oil is a seed oil
...
???
>why are you defending canola oil???
Imagine having failed so hard in life that you're an actual butter shill on IST.
No one sane would classify olive oil as a "seed oil". Anyways, I'm skipping out on your moronation. Enjoy your early onset Alzheimer's from your chronic lack of saturated fat.
Does it hurt your feelings, being called out for what you really are?
A butter shill on IST.
post your propaganda website for olive oil and let's see that vitamin K. Which isn't K2 anyway
>get btfo on PUFA sneed oils
>swaps to olive oil (MUFA fruit oil) instead
You're hammering your chat gpt posts but you don't even know basic nutrition. You act like an Indian bot.
Don't even bother responding, you got btfo.
Uh it is the same for basedbean oil too boys. Even has selenium
Yeah I can tell you're girl brained
AND canola oil. Oh boy the butter boys must be fuming on how shitty their lard looks in comparison.
>so contrarian he's prepared to defend canola oil
>nooooo you must blame all your problems in life on pressed vegetables! you can't just hold yourself accountable! WE ARE THE VICTIMS.
Yes I'll blame the rise in diabetes and dementia on vegetable oils.
if it were that simple you could make it at home. Its not and you cant. I can make butter at home not canola oil
> zero vitamin A
> zero vitamin D
> zero vitamin K2
> the vitamin E is added because the canola oil is so toxic
butter is more nutritious as I said. Even your propaganda website agrees with me
You literally cannot get your TDEE on Vitamin D and K2 from butter alone. While you can get your Vitamin E and K intake from from seed oil alone. It is not more nutritious. I can't understand how you are too stupid to understand that.
>propaganda website
It literally just lists the nutritional information of foods. Lmao since when did IST get so left wing? It's just data. No need to be upset over it.
>Bawwww the numbers aren't fair! They need to fit MY agenda
WRONG THE SHIT IN SEED OIL IS NOT BIOAVAILABLE
it lists nutrients with no regard to their availability to the human body. Vitamin A from carrots is not the same as vitamin A from butter. Vitamin D from mushrooms is not the same as vitamin D from butter. Vitamin K is plant oil is not the same as Vitamin K from butter. These are undisputed facts your propaganda website willfully ignores
post body
let’s see what this superior knowledge of nutrition can do for a person
>when the 1% daily value of Vitamin B1 is 100% bioavailable
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3335257/
canola is made from vegetables its healthy
Canola oil is just another name for RapeSEED oil. The oil is extracted from the seeds of the plant's flower, not from the plant.
>made from vegetables its healthy
Hemlock is a vegetable. But that doesn't mean it's healthy.
sorry my mom said flowers are pretty so that makes you wrong
You have to be 18 to post here.
tell that to the vegan posting google.com as a resource
Hemlock isn’t a vegetable moron. Vegetable doesn’t mean “plant”
all vegetables are plants not all plants are vegetables
>new vaccine scheduled rolled out around the same time as seed oils replace animal fats
>diseases increase
C'mon ketoschizo, even you know it's the vaccines that are causing all this shit.
Olive oil is not a seed oil.
>squeeze the olives
>with the pit* (seed)
wheres the metal chelator, chemical solvent, industrial detergents and deodorizing like my other "heart healthy" oils?
Kek. Reminds me of that one butter Infograph which points out how butter has all the nutrients, but if you look closely they all say 0.05%
Whatever makes fatties feel better about gorging on lard I guess.
>gorging on lard
and gorge they will.
Animal fat (actual lard) is good for you, homosexual. Where do you think actual nutrients are in a piece of meat? Its usually stockpiled in the fat, so eat up.
considering the widespread vitamin D deficiency this would be a move in the right direction. Grass fed butter has even more nutrients
But isn't the excess calories largely due to the vegetable oils? I read that somewhere that they do account for a lot if not all of it.
most of the caloric increase in the past half century has been in sugar and refined carbohydrates. But over that time period there has been a larger switch from animal fats to seed oils
It's so obvious why we overeat when you commit to home cooking, even homemade bread with raw ingredients isn't hyper-palatable like the shit they serve in restaurants.
yeah the switch from home cooking to eating out all the time has been pretty drastic
Didnt refute anything I said. Being a leader doesn't mean jack shit. Maybe if you eliminated heart disease with obesity it would matter but stuffing your face with saturated fats means you're going to die in 10 years. End of story. Doesn't matter what your fricking weight is. You're only proving what an idiot you are but using fat lazy fricks as the excuse for their nutrition being the cause.
According to what? Your "studies"? LMAO
LOL
>saturated fats means you're going to die
there's no good evidence saturated fat is any worse than any other fat
You're joking right?
>one time we collected self-reported dietary information from fatties and made conclusions about food they ate based on our vegan sensibilities
>we of course completely avoided making any real sensical conclusions, instead we did our best to make the vegan group look healthy and the meat eating group to look unhealthy
Post study. Thanks
There's also plenty of actual scientific evidence that saturated fat is required for hormone production.
>meat fats to cook is more likely to prevent stroke since you are directly promoting weight loss.
There's nothing magical about fat from meat moron. They have the same calories. You're trading inflammation for atherosclerosis.
>what if we make conclusions on health based on people self-reporting what they ate last year and don't give a shit of how fat or active they are
>what if we categorize McDonald's Big Macs as "red meat" and totally disregard everything else about the meal and entrée
Also a little bit of butter goes a long way. The same can't be said about vegetable oil.
Minor doses, yes
Avoid fast food. Meat, rice, pasta and potatoes don't have oil
>It's cheap.
This is why. It's cheap, so restaurants don't have to pay as much overhead. It also has a "neutral" taste that customers like.
It's considered a heart healthy oil. If you're suggesting too much of it is bad then you're engaging in "nutritional terrorism." Report yourself to the fbi you sick, hamas supporting, russian hacker, chinese communist!
>Do not engage in nutritional terrorism
Make me homosexual.
100% of seed oils apologist are wienersuckers
Who cares?
>IMPOSSIBLE to avoid
No one forces you to go to a restaurant
>dude just don't go outside
>dude just don't have friends
>dude never go to social outings
>dude just abandon your family
frick off
>not eating at a restaurant is the same being a hikikomori
yes.
it's cheap as frick and has no taste, so goes with everything.
dont go to restaurants, make your own food with tallow and ghee /thread
Why do need to avoid it 100%? You breathe shitty air and digest microplastics all the time, a splash of veg oil is where you draw the line?
If you avoided any food with vegetable oil you'd be extremely healthy. That shrimple. If the oil is on the label I skip the food. 🙂
why hasn't anyone posted the fat tiktok mutt drinking oil? her butthole must be extremely well lubed from all those oily shits (not proud to admit it but would)
if you eat at restaurants so often that this bothers you, that's your problem. cook for yourself more.
You've been shilling animal fats bad for last centuries and don't know shit because you are gay from the carbs you consume, lmao.
Its vegan/vegetarian so it must healthy… right?
The only people I’ve ever met that work to avoid oils are DYEL
>I'll have a steak, thanks
Dude it just doesn't fricking matter
You should be eating so much fat that these Boogeyman seed oils are such a low percentage of your overall intake that it just doesn't matter at all whatsoever
it does matter. a few percent difference in linoleic acid is enough to cause cancer among myriad other disease
It's easy to avoid. Just don't eat out.
Um chud “science” isn’t actually science unless i agree with its outcome. Got it little chuddy?
Charlie Sheen used this stuff to cornhole the Coreys
Italian pizza places don't use that
>nobody tell him
They put it in absolutely everything because they love the people as I do. What have you done for the cause lately chud?
had a nice bone in ribeye from my local butcher shop for dinner
LARP
its not but okay
This will sound like a doomer American schizo post but it has already evolved into a zero sum game. Food regulations are the only way forward. Lolberts will disagree while they simultaneously pour a hundred hours or more into sourcing better dairy eggs and beef for their families, not giving a damn about public health or those not born with their same 'tism. (I also have this 'tism).
You should be able to buy a sammich, empanada, gyro etc without it being full of seed oil. You should be able to buy enough land to farm without debt slavery if that's what you want to do with your life. The only way this system can be stopped is massive rewilding conservation efforts globally + more room for restorative ranching (family enterprise only) and harsh food regulations against globohomo. It's either that or the pod life lab meat seed oil maxxer types will win. There is no middle ground in the big picture of all this frens.
For now sneed oil is simply cheaper but in time even upscale and family restaurants will not be allowed to use tallow, butter, real olive oil etc. They will price out the land in white countries and prevent you from buying seeds like in the US/Canada during lockdowns. Look at what's going on in Europe right now especially in Brussels, France, the Netherlands, Germany, the governments and financial powers are trying to destroy family farming there because they want the land and want us to eat only what they approve. Against any legitimate questions or reasoning they simply demand it. There can be no compromise then and we must use government while we can.
>globally
the earth is flat though