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You're not completely wrong. This machine has a lot of benefits.
I'd do more though.
you will look like a cardio gay at the end of the day. resistance on one of these can only go so high.
>resistance on one of these can only go so high
First one of the thread. Keep them coming
The resistance is correlated to the power you pull with. You can get a 2min split with the fan on zero
t. never used a rowing machine
>you will look like a cardio gay at the end of the day.
oh no youll have otter mode (empirically proven to be the most attractive to women)
the horror
>not installing it vertically
for cardio? it's more than enough, i use cheap shit and it works fine but either way all you need to do is row
if you want to have muscle? nah you need more
Yeah. Those 6' 7" 240lbs Olympic rowers? What scrawny losers. I'm much better looking and stronger at 5'6" because I'm so much more muscular and my selfies turn out great (as long as no one is nearby for comparison).
why are you so defensive over your shitty machine lmao
to anyone getting suckered into this garbage, grab yourself a pair of dumbbells go do lunges and ohp this will outweigh anything you do in that machine and you have countless other things you can do with them
You're welcome
Its purely for cardio. Even as a college rower you had to hit the weights a lot
Meme machine.
This, just get a boat and go row on a lake
Don't do that either. Get on a stairmaster if he wants to waste his time. Although I'm sure you'll 2-4x your roi timewise on the stairmaster at any speed you use.
why would a stairmaster waste time
Because real staircases are free, and they are literally everywhere.
Problem with real stairs is that you have to walk down, which isn't good unless u have healthy knees and ur at a healthy weight.
The trick is to run down backwards.
>replace full body cardio with lower body cardio
absolute midwit take
"Full" "body" "cardio"
This is why it's a meme machine.
just say you don't know how cardiovascular workout and gains works
I'll be leaving you the meme machine and the thread alone I guess. Fools and their money will always be parted.
thank you for leaving since you had nothing to contribute in the first place. don't know why you even bothered replying instead of listening/learning.
he right tho these are meme machines
you can keep screeching and hollering your little catchphrase, but it won't ever make it true
im nta but since that's what you necro'd this garbage thread i decided to read what can i say
take the L and frick off back to
already samegayging troony
imagine thinking you can necro a thread on 4cha
now this is samegayging and moronic like buying ops machine
ROW ROW ROW YA BOAT
Someone explain why my biceps get completely gassed while rowing
you probably have awful form. finish the stroke with your lats, not arms.
How the frick do I do that? I'm not some Buddhist monk that can decide what muscles my nervous system choose to use.
think elbows. lead with your elbows at the end of the stroke. its literally the same cue for barbell rows or dumbell rows. you seriously need to row with proper form dude. i mentally cue my stroke likes this: 1. legs 2. abs, 3. lats. then your return to the beginning in reverse (1. retract arms 2. retract back 3. retract legs).
Idk if you're gonna understand this, i suggest looking up youtube videos, recording your stroke form, and asking on reddit if you're that serious.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try at the machine tomorrow.
>anon can’t speed up his heart to accelerate cardio
>anon can’t isolate each muscle and do isometric holds while sitting around
>anon can’t control his adrenal glands to give him that extra boost on lifts
>anon can’t turn off his limiter
ngmi
https://youtube.com/shorts/PddoM_aNUlM?feature=share
you can cycle between muscle groups as you row, but you're probably just cranking arms first each stroke. legs, lats, core/back, arms. if you balance all 4 correctly you will feel the least amount of strain overall, but I like to kind of shift and focus arms or shoulders periodically to work those harder, then return to the full body balance with maybe a little more emphasis on legs or back to let arms/shoulders rest while maintaining pace. if you do it right you can row for quite awhile before crapping out. rowing is unbelievably good.
Debating getting one of these or a fan bike I’m a powershart with no cardio base outside kettlebells
Definitely get the rower
Fan bike is crazy good and will gas the shit out of your heart, but is HIIT only
Rower works for both LISS and HIIT, it's a much more versatile investment for home gym
Since you're a powershart, you will be mostly doing lower intensity, because I doubt your heart can handle HIIT
He's gonna die regardless, even longer distance row sucks ass starting out
If you get a rowerg don't obsess too much over split times til you actually get a decent feel for it
Any advice on these things from people? I spent half an hour on one of these and it said I burned as much calories as I can do in 10 minutes on other things. Not sure how to benefit from it to where it isn't wasting my time
Were you using it hard? Also feel like a lot of machines meme you on how much you burn. I've had recumbent bikes say I've burned several hundred in 30 minutes and there's no fricking way lol
Yeah but using it "hard" I still barely felt anything. At least on other things I'd enter my height and weight and actually get more accurate shit and when I do it I feel fatigued and burn out. Like even just running or walking on an incline seems way more beneficial than rowing.
I'm curious how you were using it now, rowing is pretty damn draining. You either have crazy cardio or weren't exploding through the movement hard enough. The resistance has to do with the speed of the pull since it uses a fan
well I was being explosive on the pull and it still just felt like a brisk walk instead of an actual workout. I think my watts or something, some setting thing, said I was at like 175? Idk, I'm hesitant to go do it again because spending twice as long to burn as many calories on other stuff where I can barely walk or breath afterwards just doesn't seem worth it.
Hmm, idk. It could be strokes per minute too. Maybe look into it a bit and try it again one more time if you're still curious about it, and see if it feels any differently for you on the next go. Not like you're gonna lose any gains from missing another one of your usual cardio workouts to check something out
What was your 500m split time. We'll have a good indicator how hard you are working from this
Also how hard it is isn't purely how high you set the damper on the fan
>tfw I had a treadmill tell me I burned 450 calories on a 15 min warmup run
Thank god you got off that thing you could've fricking died
>tfw the gym techno-necromancer have transformed into a treadmill and performs Drain Life on you
it is quite literally the opposite. idk what you were doing wrong but 30 mins rowing should obliterate a noobie.
there are literally people in this thread saying if you do it right you can go forever and others saying it should obliterate you. i didn't see me doing anything differently than anyone else at the gym on it and it never looks like any one else is completely tanked by it either. I'm just trying to figure out if it's actually worth using to burn calories or if people just like doing it because it isn't as brainless as other forms of cardio and you can look good doing it vs. looking like shit running
you're working like 80% of your body. think about it... pushing with legs, pulling against the resistance with your core and shoulders and finishing with more pulling with your arms. idk if you've ever climbed, swam or grappled but those are the closest you're gonna get to that level of full body usage and they are objectively the top tier for cardio. might seem like you were doing the same thing as others, but my guess is you were not. either that or the machine is of lower quality, which can affect available resistance.
>captcha R0WYP
fricking based
okay sounds like it's just a meme then since I still won't ever get a straight answer
i thought you left, why are you still here, illiterate smoothbrain
I was genuinely asking if there was something I was missing and all the responses here were completely useless and even watching a 10 minute video on it there is nothing that is erroneous enough to where it'd make a difference between being tired or not and "lol just do it harder" sounds moronic when you're going as hard as you can and it feels like a brisk walk. I'm guessing it's something that fatasses just like doing to look at there arms and thinking they're burning a ton of calories effectively.
I just got on my rowerg for like 30 seconds to get a smooth pace and the computer said I was on track to burn 750cals in an hour. What are you used to doing that burns 375 in ten minutes? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just curious since you said 30 minutes was only burning like 10 minutes of work
bro 750 calories in an hour is 125 calories in 10 minutes lmfao
Yes, but 30 minutes would be 375 calories. In your original post you said 30 minutes of work only burned what 10 minutes on your usual cardio does, assuming I've been talking to the same person
Okay so there is actually a way to burn more calories on it. I'm going to try doing stuff I've watched on videos and see if that actually makes it harder. Finally something that was slightly helpful. It still wouldn't burn as much as I do running, but I at least want to be able to switch things up.
It should be a break on your knees. Make sure you set the foot slots at the proper setting for yourself, it should be so that the balls of your feet sit on the raised section
>fatasses just like doing
lmao I have never seen a fattie rowing. you talk like some kind of moron boomer who gets confused after trying something for 3 seconds that doesn't give them immediate gratification.
Sure a long ass text to explain you're too moronic for rowing
>when you're going as hard as you can and it feels like a brisk walk
You're talking like a fricking moron. Why don't you sit your ignorant ass down on a C2 and try to hit 2k meters in 6 minutes and see how much of a "brisk walk" it is.
Every fricking thing you blathered in this thread is the equivalent of saying treadmills are worthless because you never upped the speed beyond 3.5 miles per hour.
>I used the rower machine a single time without even being aware of whether or not I can adjust the resistance on it, so rowing is objectively too easy a form of cardio
Congrats, you climbed the peak of mount dunning-kruger without breaking a sweat
Not sure what you want anon. You can make the machine work as hard as you can, just like running. Try and do a 2k as fast as you possibly can and you'll want to throw up. If you feel nothing after that, then you didn't try hard enough
>go forever
Not a fricking chance.
>obliterate you
Yeah. Big time.
>I rowed like the guys at the gym
Here's a video about how to properly use an ergometer.
Correct!
Incorrect!
Competition of people who know what they're doing and are doing it properly and, guess what? They're EXHAUSTED doing it, in LESS than 10 minutes. Let alone training for 20+ minutes.
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I'm just starting to get into them myself, but what I've heard is that you're supposed to slow the frick down with them, like in the 17-22 full motions per minute, idk if it's true though
True. ~18 strokes is the most efficient for your body's strength and endurance to keep the fast speed of traveling through the water.
Marginally high strokes (20-24 strokes per minute) are acceptable on an ergometer, but will tire you more quickly.
The final 500m of your exercise routine will also be at a higher rate (~24 strokes).
>Any advice
ONLY ROW WITH GOOD FORM
Like, holy shit. You want obvious advice that people outright ignore? DON'T perform an exercise with BAD FORM. You'll get HURT.
People are morons.
for me... it's pic rel
You don’t even need that. You have legs and arms. You can walk and do push-ups.
I only row at max resistance.
It's not resistance. It's more like gears on a bike.
Can you elaborate?
There's a whole page on it at C2's website:
>Many people confuse damper setting with intensity level or resistance. Instead, the intensity of your workout is controlled by how much you use your legs, back and arms to move the handle—in other words, how hard you pull. This is true regardless of where the damper lever is set: the harder you pull, the more resistance you will feel. Because our indoor rowers use wind resistance (which is generated by the spinning flywheel), the faster you get the wheel spinning, the more resistance there will be.
https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/tips-and-general-info/damper-setting-101
Sometimes when I row I have this fantasy that I'm a Greek sailor on the Argo in search of the Golden Fleece, rowing through the Greek Isles. I imagine Orpheus is there playing music. It's an elaborate daydream because I'm not ashamed of it and I've been doing a lot of rowing. It's a kind of creative exercise or meditation that distracts me from the worst parts of the workout and motivates me to do the best workout I can.
Sometimes the fantasy is just rowing an ancient world ferry, transporting passengers across two port towns. In either case, I'm always the underdog or dark horse aiming to be peers to the gods.
based. I pretend I'm a spartan or viking in a berserker trance rowing to war... or one of those weird dark creatures in dreamquest of kaddath rowing to the moon.
i just put on some music that doesn't occupy too much brain space, tune out and picture myself as waves crashing and receding. i find if i actually mentally acknowledge that it's an exertion, rather than something automatic, it becomes way more tiring
>Sometimes when I row I have this fantasy that I'm a Greek sailor on the Argo in search of the Golden Fleece, rowing through the Greek Isles. I imagine Orpheus is there playing music. It's an elaborate daydream because I'm not ashamed of it and I've been doing a lot of rowing. It's a kind of creative exercise or meditation that distracts me from the worst parts of the workout and motivates me to do the best workout I can.
>Sometimes the fantasy is just rowing an ancient world ferry, transporting passengers across two port towns. In either case, I'm always the underdog or dark horse aiming to be peers to the gods.
this - I watch shipwreck / storm at sea videos while rowing and think about using this as cardio to get the frick out of there.
when hitting the treadmill I always daydream I'm chasing women to ravage them
i guess you should be able to reach ottermode with it if you put in enough effort
you won't get any bigger than that though if you're natty though
at some point your gains will hard stall and heavy weights will start being necessary
Spreading the word of blessed row-anon
There are morons, ITT, who think "this is easy" because they're performing the motion but don't realize when they look at the screen their pace is
>4:00 minutes per 500m
"Huh? That's not right? What should it be? 2:00 minutes? Okay..."
>pulls harder
"It's not really dropping very fast..."
>pulls harder
"How LONG do I have to keep pulling this hard???"
>pulls harder, finally reaches 2 minutes
"See!? This is easy! What? Keep this up for another 10 minutes? N-no problem!"
>form is awful, he slumped over, his rate doubles with half the distance, his speed drops below 3 minutes
"THIS SUCKS!"
https://thepeteplan.wordpress.com/beginner-training/
good stuff
Keep in mind
>the man in that video is insanely tall at 6' 8"
>he's a powerlifter who is roided out of his mind for burst strength
>that is 100m, literally 13 seconds, of anaerobic pulling
>"short races" for rowing are 2000m in length
>regular training for those races is quadruple that distance
Brian Shaw would not keep that pace for even 20 more seconds, let alone 20 minutes. It's HARD.
Don't think because you also "rowed as hard as Brian Shaw for fourteen seconds" that it was "easy" or that you're using an ergometer for its intended purpose of long-distance rowing training in building cardiovascular endurance, full-body muscle strength and coordination, at the lowest bodyweight possible.
I want one of these so bad but I have no place to put it currently.
take the sleeping on the floor redpill and get rid of your bed frame
see? you just saved a gigantic amount of room, and you can still lay the mattress on the floor when going to sleep
and effortlessly fold the rower like picrel after you're done, if needed
>take the sleeping on the floor redpill and get rid of your bed frame
No I've done that enough times to know it's fricking awful.
filtered
Filtered from what? Sleeping in the floor? Okay gay.
>just sleep on the floor and invest in this shit machine that'll take up all your floor space and do less than a set of dumbbells
cult
>doing indoor cardio in a small room
I know you've never actually tried it but let me tell you the place will turn into a sauna five minutes in and you won't be able to breathe. It doesn't matter if you open up the windows and there's a hurricane outside or how many fans you can get.
How come you can afford a C2 but can't afford an AC?
>Convince me picrel isn't all I will ever need.
Doesn't work the traps and a handful of other muscles.
Get some free weights/kettlebells and then sit on the sliding seat feet in but without handle and mess with free weights doing traps between intervals to counter this
Shoulders get huge, and are mostly what woman seem to notice if you are dressed up.
It does seem to take a long time to get a 'pump' though - 45 minutes (~4800m) for me, though my pace (500m / 2:30 to 3m) sucks as I am trying to fix some form issues that hurt my wrist.
how does it not work the traps?
You are not encouraged to "shrug" during a rowing motion. That is considered bad form.
I'm pretty sure you'll still engage the upper trap fibers, not as much as the lower ones though.
I just thought traps was a weird example when you have stuff like the chest being neglected even more
You actively use your chest in the recovery phase of the drive by pushing (to no resistance) your arms away from your body instantly, and then holding your hands & arms in that horizontal position to focus on proper form before the catch of a new drive.
For example:
>make a fist
>hold your hands parallel to each other
>hold your hands slightly closer than shoulder-width apart
>reach very far forward; your arms should be completely straight, your elbows in a "locked" state
>pretend you are pushing against a wall
>keeping the hand position and distance equal, "pull" your hands towards your body
>do not raise your shoulders
>to do not "flay" your elbows outwards; lower them
>stop when your hand touch your lower ribs
>your elbows should be placed in a line that is perceived as "behind" your spine
>immediately "push" your hands & arms back into that "reaching" straight position at the start
>repeat this action 100 times, slowly (roughly 20 times per minutes, a full motion taking ~3 seconds)
While you'll find this performs very little comparative exertion on your pectoral muscles, it will very definitely use them to hold position, maintain balance and form, and cause strain on your nervous system to maintain fine-motor control in order to keep your hands and arms in good position with a noticeably higher effort as in the first milliseconds of your recovery phase and the last milliseconds of your recovery phase (in your initial "push" and final "reach" points).
To reiterate: rowing is NOT designed to maximize pectoral "pushing" effort. It is an exercise focused around the opposite "pulling" effort. It does, however, utilize your chest to maintain stability and form during all stages of movement, since your hands and arms need a "pushing" motion to revert to the initial "catch" position (the entire last half of the exercise) and also fight gravity to raise and maintain a horizontal position.
You stupid homosexuals. Shut the frick up and reply to my thread at once:
I know you wish you were 5'6". Me, personally? I am 5'6". I know you envy me. Do it.
Wow, this is the greatest thread I've ever seen, thank you, 5'6" RULER!
Haha, it's no problem, no problem at all. I'm always happy to help a vile lankhomosexual like you to become a 5'6" RULER like me.
Shut the frick up and reply to my thread.
frick off and shill your unfunny thread somewhere else
Gonna cry, lanky, hm? Someone getting a little upset? Need a diaper change, baby? Aww. You're all upset. Maybe what you need is a proper spanking. You have two options: Spanking, or reply to my thread:
homosexual.
so I watched a few videos on how to use a rowing machine and then tried the ones at my gym out and idk guys I did an hour of rowing and didn't really feel anything, I even turned the resistance up all the way, what am I doing wrong??
I feel like I got the form down, but the resistance just felt nonexistent, my cousin swears by this machine but he owns an expensive one and the ones at my gym look pretty beat, I want to like this machine but Idk.
this post again?
It's just bait. He hasn't ever rowed before.
He wanted to bump a thread he was trolling, since it was nearing page 10.
again????
>ask for advice on rowing in rowing thread
>two morons respond with nonsense
I have no idea what either of you are on
So, you only want some lats and no other muscle anywhere else?
You sound really gay.
I was on the rowing team in high school. I hate this thing, no reason to row unless you’re training to be a better rower. It’ll get you fit, but if you’re not fat or a powershitter just lift weights.
based I did it in college and never want to touch an erg again
I'll have to agree. I rowed in both high school and college, and while I'm a total outdoorsman who simply loved being on a scull in open water...
...the erg totally gave me hemorrhoids.
Sure, it'll train your endurance big-time, but it's not worth painfully shitting for years.
>totally gave me hemorrhoids
How the frick were you using the machine? The seat fricking slides. Like, how the frick did rowing give you hemorrhoids?
I don't have a fat ass. And it's not about the sliding motion of the sliding seat. It's about the seat, itself.
And when you spend half your time on that 1inch hard plastic seat while your anus is getting pressed against it with more than half the bodyweight of a 6' 2"+ athlete on it, rubbing and pressing and clenching and whatnot... for hours every day, for years... yeah. It's not great on your blood vessels.
I fold up a towel and put it on the seat
You certainly have defective ass, defective form, or just both
Over a year of doing rowing 5 days a week and I never had such problems
I don't have a fat ass either. I've been rowing for years and don't have hemorrhoids. Maybe you shoulda told your boyfriend to clip his nails before fingering you so you wouldn't have to blame this shit on rowing.
OOOOUUUGH I'M GUNNA ROOOOOOWW
This is the "make a man out of you" fitness machine.
Rowing is the most physically demanding sport.
Mentally demanding too, since most people are morons unable to keep a good form
In the age before engines pilot gig rowing used to be big business.
Got to get your man out to the new boat trying to navigate the shoals before the other guys could.
and another one
last one from me because this shit board doesn't deserve good threads