you completely misunderstand what i said, you're pairing the best guy with an average roider, the average bjj manlet will get killed by avearge 250lb mogmaxxed gymbro
Go on /gif/ and watch any video of untrained tards fighting
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I don't have to. I already know and that skinny gay is trying to game the system to avoid fights at his weight class while I'm the guy that routinely brings trouble to people heavier than me. Yea, I have even been hit in the face by a normie he reminds me of and it didn't even hurt or leave a mark. He's an easy fight. Measuring people is not hard.
I'm 5'11 and I weight 203 lbs, he has no chance. Realistically speaking if had to have an unsanctioned fight he'd be dead before he could pull off one of his pantyboy tricks.
>only 135 lbs
This is after cutting water and shit right? He probably has more muscle than most of this board, that includes you who think you're leaner than you are.
>only 135lbs
No. He weighs in at that weight. I guarantee he fights at *at least* 145, because UFC is moronic and weighs its fighters in two days before the actual fight, and I'm pretty sure he said he walks around at like 160
Weight cutting is stupid like that. We now have "lightweights" who could probably fight at middleweight if they didn't fricking mummify themselves before each fight
>this guy gets dehydrated before a fight
Am I seriously supposed to believe your average well hydrated 1/2/3/4 anon can't beat his ass in a matter of seconds? LMAO
I carry a gun, so clown boy is welcome to start some shit whenever he wants >B-but that's not fair you have to beat him at martial arts, specifically MMA
Nah, I don't do martial arts, I play for keeps.
annnnnnnnd now you're in jail....without a gun....next to gay rapists.... well whatever floats your boat man ;^)
Obviously grappling is a whole other thing, a punch is a punch is a punch. I could easily outpunch whoever it is that you mentioned.
I dunno, man. You gotta have good timing to land a punch on a guy who knows how to fight, and as a non-fighter if you're close enough to punch them then they're close enough to grab you, and from there it's over for you.
Bro O’Malley would frick up a rhino they suck at Jiu Jitsu
Are you trying to say "there is a limit to how much technique can out do strength" ? Because if so, I agree, however the difference between 160 pounds (sean o'malley's regular weight) and 200 pounds is not enough for it. Maybe 250 with an emphasis on strength and athleticism/cardio.
He dehydrates before the weigh-in
The weigh-in is two days before the fight. Typically on Friday morning, then they fight on Sunday night
He definitely rehydrates during that time, refills his glycogen stores and all that. I guarantee that if you weighed him ten minutes before the fight, he would miss weight by at least 10lbs, probably 15. And as I said, he walks around at 75kg which is I think 165lbs
absolutely agree, most moronic practice ever.
ONE has it right.
One weigh-in a few days before, one like 30min before the fight, plus some sort of test that determines water weight %. Granted, they have different problems, but at least they force fighters to actually fight at in their weightclass
Well, then you're either walking around too lean for your own good (impeding your training performance and recovery) or gimping yourself by not fighting in the next lower weight class.
The latter is pretty based if you're successful because you're effectively beating up bigger people, but more than likely you'll have a pretty bad time
TBQH I think fighters should just be forced to fight at their walk-around weight
I'm 6'1 240 lbs but the weight difference would likely not make the victorious difference with their sport ruleset
on cold hard pavement where I went berserk 0-100? could go either way, if he didn't get a good solid knockout punch in before I got close he probably dies
I'm curious. I mean, I worry that you're baiting right now, but I still want to ask.
Based on what you're saying, do you think you could out grapple Sean O'malley?
>grappling
See, you're still thinking in terms of the sport. There's a near 100lb difference here for starters, and then you have to take into account the bloodlust, like previously said.
Grappling in an octagon is a controlled environment. Would it be so under a life or death situation on cold hard pavement? Has O'malley ever defended against a guy going balls to the wall, headbutting, biting, poking, and doing what ever he could to hurt him before? What would O'malley's psychological response to this be? What would his brain's response be when his training that didn't prepare him for this starts to fail him? Would he also give up his trained response as well?
Then, wouldn't that advantage the untrained larger attacker? Lots of variables and factors to consider. These guys are tough as nails but at the end of the day, they fight under sports rules in controlled environments with no real threat to their lives hanging on their minds.
In a life or death situation you will not rise to the occasion, you will fall to your level of training. The untrained guy is more likely than not going to throw a couple of shitty punches and freeze up/shell up after getting hit hard once.
Also, the attacks that you train are trained for a reason. You can do them without even thinking, it's just sheer muscle memory and only a bit of conscious thinking about it.
And when it comes to those rule breaks you seem to find precious, please remember that O'malley can do all of those too, but with more precision and efficiency than some untrained lunkhead.
I do apologize for sounding like a pompous butthole though it's a bad habit.
https://i.imgur.com/rKnopgG.jpg
This is why walking around in your cut weight is like being SSJ2 24/7.
You don't have to go through the gnarly cut shit.
thanks for the reaction image i'm adding it to the collection, it's my third dragon ball one i think
fricking epic bro. do you have any friendlier/positive ones? Here's one i use when trying to motivate the bros online
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you are for certain the coolest guy in town for sending like 10 of those. i'm definitely downloadingi a few. many thanks to the dragon ball reaction image poster
Training and especially competing at a high level make you way better at dealing with danger and stress than some random guy with even less experience. Soldiers train and do wargames with limited danger to prepare them for the real thing. MMA is like that for irl fights.
you would get obliterated even harder on pavement than on a mat lmfao. Do you even know what takedowns might be used on you? Do you know how to defend against those takedowns? Can you do both of those things while also guarding yourself from strikes? Can you do all of that while keeping the pressure on because he's 10,000x more experienced than you and any time you give him means you're done?
I'm a strong and lean 6'1 220 and started doing Muay Thai and BJJ recently. The little experienced dudes in that basic ass gym would demolish me in a real fight.
Strength is an advantage in a fight, but skill is way more important. For strength to actually outweigh skill the difference has to be completely absurd, like Brian Shaw, Hafthor, etc. If you're not lean and 300+ lbs your strength will not matter nearly enough to save you from a professional fighter, no matter how small they are
This, nobody who thinks they could beat these guys without training has ever been to a fighting gym. That whole >yeah I’d see red and power through it
mentality goes to bed real quick after rolling a couple times and getting ragdolled by a smaller dude or having the smaller guy punch and kick you at will. Strength and power without training lasts you about 5 unproductive seconds before your lack of coordination and know how catastrophically fails you.
>mom I wont hold back outside the ring >implying pro fighter would hold back
homie, his timing and speed alone would be enough 9 chances out of 10 to put your bulky ass to sleep before you can even put em up
I can outgrapple, outstrike, outfight, outshoot and outsword and outknife every single man on this planet regardless of their height, weight, strength or "experience". Everyone is a phony, except for me of course. I am based like that.
I'm 6'3" 200 lbs and this dude would wreck my shit in a heartbeat. I imagine any trained professional fighter would frick me up. They're professionals. I am not. That's why I don't pick fights with them, or anyone else for that matter.
sometimes i forget not all boards are like /misc/ lol. its like how an indian would always let people know they are Indian on reddit cause theres a huge "cant talk shit about the diversity" on reddit and indians eat it up.
Of course
A more fun question is what size/weight would he not want to fight. Obviously he has a personal limit and wouldn't want to fight, say, Andre the giant or the rock.
... because he would lose horribly
Anyone that has done hard sparring before knows that an inexperienced person will gas out within 60 seconds of a real fight. Being ‘in shape’ from lifting and/or running does nothing to recreate the sort of cardio that actual fighting requires. Every man should experience how humbling that is as a newbie, and then work to achieve some level of combat readiness and maintain it well into old age.
It’d be interesting. I feel like if I did wrestling training hardcore for a year maybe since I’m 6’3 230. The guy is good though. Do not underestimate mma guys’ skills.
I have some amateur experience in combat sports and am way bigger, but this guy is unironically a professional head rocker. I would be very lucky if he would frick up and gave me a chance to at least maul him.
Somebody in one of these threads posted the webm of O'Malley heeming Aljo. It was basically Aljo lunging at him rashly, O'Malley slipping the punch by a couple of inches, and blasting him over the top of his own punching arm. The way Aljo came at him, ie the tard rush, is exactly what an untrained guy would do, only much better because Aljo at least has experience punching people. It doesn't make me very confident about this board's chances in that fight. You would have to be much bigger to even stand a chance.
If he's at 135lbs and dehydrated, it wouldn't be a cakewalk but any big guy (and big by IST standards, not a fat guy but someone double his weight and lowish bf) will just end him.
It would be like playing with a child, a dehydrated and weak child.
If he's at a full 160lbs, well hydrated and fed, then things are different. The weight difference makes up for SOME martial arts skill, but you gotta at least be advanced in a couple of them because the guy is fricking elite.
The Russian in that one photo where he was standing next to one of the captured mass shooters in that theatre over in Moscow would legitimately be a much greater threat to me than that guy.
Yes.
Martial artists are not that tough or fast if you yourself are athletic.
If you have massive reach, height, weight advantage,, frankly all you need to know is to tuck your chin and check leg kicks.
Ground fight may be challenging for equally sized, but any bjj master will admit that beatint e
G. 6'6 sized opponent at 5'10 is extremely hard even for bjj
Dont overhype combat sports.
If an amateur Jake Paul can become competitive in boxing just for views, you can realize that with little training average gifted dude will be up there easily.
Only elite fighters are on their own level, like Tyson, Khabib etc but they are often a mix of genetics, lifelong training, environment and luck of draw, unique among others.
Pfft. I'm not scared if he personally came and challenged me. I'd accept, get annoyed by worshippers like you, and then have to be even more annoyed when you start coping about why I won.
Easy.
I call the police.
And if he gets fussy, I pull out my conceal carry.
Imagine living in the year of our Lord 2024 and thinking you have to lay a hand on some psychopath that wants to kick your teeth in.
Mma homosexuals have a chip on their shoulder that feel the constant need to tell everyone that wasting their time getting beaten to a pulp by their daddy sensei is totally not a waste of time and actually super useful.
Just make enough money to not live around thugs and the problem goes away.
Probably not, I don't do combat sports.
Probably could, I don't do combat sports.
Probably, I don’t fight clownbros though
He could be 5'10 and 120lbs and still kick 99.999% of the world's populations ass what's your point the dude is a professional MMA fighter lmao
also inb4 "I'm 200 lbs 6'3 I'll bodyslam him"
Suga Sean
No he would kill 99% of the population.
troonybuilders are delulu on fighting. Unironically demetrius johnson would wreck this guy 9 times out of 10.
Small guys only chance is to catch him in a submission. And that's the best of the best martial artists
you're out of your marbles pal. Demetrious johnson beats bradley martin 91 times out of 100 via literally whatever he wants.
that's the best guy you pair the best guy with an average roider
DJ is the best guy who's a midget and weighs 125 lbs.
If we even start heading into 200 pound territory with people like Pereira and Jon jones all these roiders would be killed in less than 30 seconds.
you completely misunderstand what i said, you're pairing the best guy with an average roider, the average bjj manlet will get killed by avearge 250lb mogmaxxed gymbro
you only need one good punch in a street fight
And he is very good at throwing that one good punch.
Hooks? It only works if you're caught off guard.
You don't even have a guard if you're untrained
>Holding arms up and not chicken winging is a skill now
pfft, children do this shit
Go on /gif/ and watch any video of untrained tards fighting
I don't have to. I already know and that skinny gay is trying to game the system to avoid fights at his weight class while I'm the guy that routinely brings trouble to people heavier than me. Yea, I have even been hit in the face by a normie he reminds me of and it didn't even hurt or leave a mark. He's an easy fight. Measuring people is not hard.
I'm 5'11 and I weight 203 lbs, he has no chance. Realistically speaking if had to have an unsanctioned fight he'd be dead before he could pull off one of his pantyboy tricks.
I don't think it's bait. A lot of people 200+ pounds think they would be 180+ pounds lean. At some point muscle can overcome skill
Raw power always trumps all but skill and technique can make raw power suddenly become many factors stronger.
Weak twink cope
>only 135 lbs
This is after cutting water and shit right? He probably has more muscle than most of this board, that includes you who think you're leaner than you are.
>only 135lbs
No. He weighs in at that weight. I guarantee he fights at *at least* 145, because UFC is moronic and weighs its fighters in two days before the actual fight, and I'm pretty sure he said he walks around at like 160
Weight cutting is stupid like that. We now have "lightweights" who could probably fight at middleweight if they didn't fricking mummify themselves before each fight
>this guy gets dehydrated before a fight
Am I seriously supposed to believe your average well hydrated 1/2/3/4 anon can't beat his ass in a matter of seconds? LMAO
moronic stupid pussy, i reccomend you not to act like this near people who really do martial arts cause you would get your ass beat up so bad
ok martial farts boy
I carry a gun, so clown boy is welcome to start some shit whenever he wants
>B-but that's not fair you have to beat him at martial arts, specifically MMA
Nah, I don't do martial arts, I play for keeps.
A lot of UFC guys have guns too
Guns are cowards
annnnnnnnd now you're in jail....without a gun....next to gay rapists.... well whatever floats your boat man ;^)
I dunno, man. You gotta have good timing to land a punch on a guy who knows how to fight, and as a non-fighter if you're close enough to punch them then they're close enough to grab you, and from there it's over for you.
Are you trying to say "there is a limit to how much technique can out do strength" ? Because if so, I agree, however the difference between 160 pounds (sean o'malley's regular weight) and 200 pounds is not enough for it. Maybe 250 with an emphasis on strength and athleticism/cardio.
>meanwhile, UFC fighters
He dehydrates before the weigh-in
The weigh-in is two days before the fight. Typically on Friday morning, then they fight on Sunday night
He definitely rehydrates during that time, refills his glycogen stores and all that. I guarantee that if you weighed him ten minutes before the fight, he would miss weight by at least 10lbs, probably 15. And as I said, he walks around at 75kg which is I think 165lbs
ONE has it right.
One weigh-in a few days before, one like 30min before the fight, plus some sort of test that determines water weight %. Granted, they have different problems, but at least they force fighters to actually fight at in their weightclass
absolutely agree, most moronic practice ever.
Left - Khamzat Chimaev, ranked Welterweight and Middleweight
Right - Jalin Turner, Lightweight
Weight classes are an official meme at this point
He's just measured in 3/5lbs
This is why walking around in your cut weight is like being SSJ2 24/7.
You don't have to go through the gnarly cut shit.
True and it works for a lot of fighters, but then you can end up across the ring from some huge guy who cuts 30 pounds just to bully you
Well, then you're either walking around too lean for your own good (impeding your training performance and recovery) or gimping yourself by not fighting in the next lower weight class.
The latter is pretty based if you're successful because you're effectively beating up bigger people, but more than likely you'll have a pretty bad time
TBQH I think fighters should just be forced to fight at their walk-around weight
Sean is one of the best strikers ever in the ufc, he would heem us all
I have over 150lbs on him, I’d simply break him in half like a twig.
in an Octagon? no, probably not
I'm 6'1 240 lbs but the weight difference would likely not make the victorious difference with their sport ruleset
on cold hard pavement where I went berserk 0-100? could go either way, if he didn't get a good solid knockout punch in before I got close he probably dies
>i just see red bro
I'm curious. I mean, I worry that you're baiting right now, but I still want to ask.
Based on what you're saying, do you think you could out grapple Sean O'malley?
Obviously grappling is a whole other thing, a punch is a punch is a punch. I could easily outpunch whoever it is that you mentioned.
Bro O’Malley would frick up a rhino they suck at Jiu Jitsu
>grappling
See, you're still thinking in terms of the sport. There's a near 100lb difference here for starters, and then you have to take into account the bloodlust, like previously said.
Grappling in an octagon is a controlled environment. Would it be so under a life or death situation on cold hard pavement? Has O'malley ever defended against a guy going balls to the wall, headbutting, biting, poking, and doing what ever he could to hurt him before? What would O'malley's psychological response to this be? What would his brain's response be when his training that didn't prepare him for this starts to fail him? Would he also give up his trained response as well?
Then, wouldn't that advantage the untrained larger attacker? Lots of variables and factors to consider. These guys are tough as nails but at the end of the day, they fight under sports rules in controlled environments with no real threat to their lives hanging on their minds.
In a life or death situation you will not rise to the occasion, you will fall to your level of training. The untrained guy is more likely than not going to throw a couple of shitty punches and freeze up/shell up after getting hit hard once.
Also, the attacks that you train are trained for a reason. You can do them without even thinking, it's just sheer muscle memory and only a bit of conscious thinking about it.
And when it comes to those rule breaks you seem to find precious, please remember that O'malley can do all of those too, but with more precision and efficiency than some untrained lunkhead.
I do apologize for sounding like a pompous butthole though it's a bad habit.
thanks for the reaction image i'm adding it to the collection, it's my third dragon ball one i think
>thanks for the reaction image i'm adding it to the collection, it's my third dragon ball one i think
Here have another one.
fricking epic bro. do you have any friendlier/positive ones? Here's one i use when trying to motivate the bros online
you are for certain the coolest guy in town for sending like 10 of those. i'm definitely downloadingi a few. many thanks to the dragon ball reaction image poster
Training and especially competing at a high level make you way better at dealing with danger and stress than some random guy with even less experience. Soldiers train and do wargames with limited danger to prepare them for the real thing. MMA is like that for irl fights.
He looks like he should be kept as a sex slave by gay dudes
>If we fought on a mat I would probably lose
>If we fought on pavement it's 50/50
Literally what is the difference?
a pavement is made from concrete where mat sounds like a regular guy
>berserk 0-100
Everybody thinks they could win a fight if they just go monke mode lol
you would get obliterated even harder on pavement than on a mat lmfao. Do you even know what takedowns might be used on you? Do you know how to defend against those takedowns? Can you do both of those things while also guarding yourself from strikes? Can you do all of that while keeping the pressure on because he's 10,000x more experienced than you and any time you give him means you're done?
I'm a strong and lean 6'1 220 and started doing Muay Thai and BJJ recently. The little experienced dudes in that basic ass gym would demolish me in a real fight.
Strength is an advantage in a fight, but skill is way more important. For strength to actually outweigh skill the difference has to be completely absurd, like Brian Shaw, Hafthor, etc. If you're not lean and 300+ lbs your strength will not matter nearly enough to save you from a professional fighter, no matter how small they are
This, nobody who thinks they could beat these guys without training has ever been to a fighting gym. That whole
>yeah I’d see red and power through it
mentality goes to bed real quick after rolling a couple times and getting ragdolled by a smaller dude or having the smaller guy punch and kick you at will. Strength and power without training lasts you about 5 unproductive seconds before your lack of coordination and know how catastrophically fails you.
>mom I wont hold back outside the ring
>implying pro fighter would hold back
homie, his timing and speed alone would be enough 9 chances out of 10 to put your bulky ass to sleep before you can even put em up
He needs to stop hitting legs for a while, otherwise looks good
Why do martial gays cope so much, ISTbros?
I'm a little bigger than his walk around weight and a Muay Thaigay, and Sean would heem me.
>I'm into the same cult and I know his tethans are just too strong for me
Get a grip
>knowing that a professional at a sport would be better than a hobbyist is cult behaviour
Yes.
I can outgrapple, outstrike, outfight, outshoot and outsword and outknife every single man on this planet regardless of their height, weight, strength or "experience". Everyone is a phony, except for me of course. I am based like that.
I'm 6'3" 200 lbs and this dude would wreck my shit in a heartbeat. I imagine any trained professional fighter would frick me up. They're professionals. I am not. That's why I don't pick fights with them, or anyone else for that matter.
Taller than me
>there are anons on IST who can't even beat this 5'10 dyel fat manlet in a fight
Easily, with a b***h slap
Yes, I'm a jacked Taiwanese boy.
frick i am so fat
>5'11
>191lbs
who cares, hes just another ufc fighter who will come and go in less than 3 bouts. Gone are the true champion days like GSP and Anderson Silva.
Frick is this little b***hboy gonna do, throw a pie in my face?
I'm 6'2, Polynesian, and built like a shit brick house. I wouldn't even break a sweat lol
>I'm 6'2, Polynesian, and built like a shit brick house. I wouldn't even break a sweat lol
sometimes i forget not all boards are like /misc/ lol. its like how an indian would always let people know they are Indian on reddit cause theres a huge "cant talk shit about the diversity" on reddit and indians eat it up.
>Polynesian
>not sweating
Doubt it
laughing squad
Of course
A more fun question is what size/weight would he not want to fight. Obviously he has a personal limit and wouldn't want to fight, say, Andre the giant or the rock.
... because he would lose horribly
Anyone that has done hard sparring before knows that an inexperienced person will gas out within 60 seconds of a real fight. Being ‘in shape’ from lifting and/or running does nothing to recreate the sort of cardio that actual fighting requires. Every man should experience how humbling that is as a newbie, and then work to achieve some level of combat readiness and maintain it well into old age.
yeah id beat him up ez
id suplex him then frick his twink ass
It’d be interesting. I feel like if I did wrestling training hardcore for a year maybe since I’m 6’3 230. The guy is good though. Do not underestimate mma guys’ skills.
no i'm 6'2 134.
Anyone can bang this gay out, its fighting. It can go anyway if its not controlled or un even match.
I'm 200 lbs 6'3 I'll bodyslam him
I have some amateur experience in combat sports and am way bigger, but this guy is unironically a professional head rocker. I would be very lucky if he would frick up and gave me a chance to at least maul him.
Somebody in one of these threads posted the webm of O'Malley heeming Aljo. It was basically Aljo lunging at him rashly, O'Malley slipping the punch by a couple of inches, and blasting him over the top of his own punching arm. The way Aljo came at him, ie the tard rush, is exactly what an untrained guy would do, only much better because Aljo at least has experience punching people. It doesn't make me very confident about this board's chances in that fight. You would have to be much bigger to even stand a chance.
If he's at 135lbs and dehydrated, it wouldn't be a cakewalk but any big guy (and big by IST standards, not a fat guy but someone double his weight and lowish bf) will just end him.
It would be like playing with a child, a dehydrated and weak child.
If he's at a full 160lbs, well hydrated and fed, then things are different. The weight difference makes up for SOME martial arts skill, but you gotta at least be advanced in a couple of them because the guy is fricking elite.
They don't fight on weigh in day. He's probably 150 something in the cage.
Very easily. He could probably land some hits on me and do no damage.
The Russian in that one photo where he was standing next to one of the captured mass shooters in that theatre over in Moscow would legitimately be a much greater threat to me than that guy.
Yes.
Martial artists are not that tough or fast if you yourself are athletic.
If you have massive reach, height, weight advantage,, frankly all you need to know is to tuck your chin and check leg kicks.
Ground fight may be challenging for equally sized, but any bjj master will admit that beatint e
G. 6'6 sized opponent at 5'10 is extremely hard even for bjj
Dont overhype combat sports.
If an amateur Jake Paul can become competitive in boxing just for views, you can realize that with little training average gifted dude will be up there easily.
Only elite fighters are on their own level, like Tyson, Khabib etc but they are often a mix of genetics, lifelong training, environment and luck of draw, unique among others.
This thread
>this thread
Dudes that snap are actually going to be the more challenging fight if they're not consciously there
>could you as an untrained individual beat someone whose full time job it is to fight?
No?
It's just a bait thread to get all of the 240 pound bloatmaxxers to spread their delusions on how they'd "bodyslam" him
Nope, im 6'3 and 220 lbs, but this dude can strike
Pfft. I'm not scared if he personally came and challenged me. I'd accept, get annoyed by worshippers like you, and then have to be even more annoyed when you start coping about why I won.
I like him so i wouldn't even try
He is more like 160lbs in person. Even in the cage, he is at least 155.
Easy.
I call the police.
And if he gets fussy, I pull out my conceal carry.
Imagine living in the year of our Lord 2024 and thinking you have to lay a hand on some psychopath that wants to kick your teeth in.
Mma homosexuals have a chip on their shoulder that feel the constant need to tell everyone that wasting their time getting beaten to a pulp by their daddy sensei is totally not a waste of time and actually super useful.
Just make enough money to not live around thugs and the problem goes away.