When will we find a cure for aging? I believe dementia will still be a thing, and people's health will deteriorate in other ways regardless if we manage to "stop aging," but it would be pretty cool to see people in their 40s who look like they're in their 20s. We might not cure dementia, but people's minds will deteriorate at a much slower rate. People who are 100 might have the minds of people who are 60, and so on.
I love aging because I love to see roasties decay atom by atom in real time.
whatever helps you cope roastie
If there's a cure for aging I hope I also get to turn into an attractive female while I'm at it.
>We might not cure dementia,
Why not?
>Why not?
If we cure aging, then we could definitely slow down the progression of dementia, but I don't believe we'd cure it. From what I've read, the brain naturally deteriorates with time. Certain brain cells just can't be replaced once they break. I might be wrong, though. I know the brain is capable of repairing itself, but this capability might be limited to some extents.
>Certain brain cells just can't be replaced once they break.
Can't be replaced, or aren't naturally replaced?
I think there's going to be some limit, maybe someone in late stage Alzheimer's will never get their memories back and would be a different person after treatment.
>it's a mere projection created by humans
Can I project myself into a hot girl then?
I mean the categorizations are arbitrary and circumstancial. Physics clearly says humans are just a pile of atoms, not distinguishable from any other pille of atom or inanimate rock. Arbitrarily choosing a certain configuration of that pile of atoms and saying well that's a healthy young human is delusional. Which is the original cause of aging. Piles of atoms aren't meant to stay in the same configuration forever and hoping you will find some magical way of keeping that specific arrangement over any other is delusional. You start from physics and the more you climb the science ladder (chemistry, biology, psychology) the more nonsensical human bullshit you add to the "knowledge".
Humans also have thoughts and feelings. Explain that.
Humans testify to having thoughts and feelings in the same way a sitcom has relationships. Shit is just made up bro.
I agree with you on that point and it's something physics clearly can't explain. It still doesn't take away the physical problem that is aging. There's a difference between saying "how to make human life last longer" and "how to solve aging". The second problem is one that all things in the universe experience simply from being distinguishable material structures that are subject to physical laws.
I think I remember there being immortal organisms, some water life. there's no real reason to not be able to do it. there's no law dictating it isn't possible. you just have to build it in a way which makes that possible, as long as it has access to low entropy energy.
considering everything we're pretty amazing as we already are.
>Arbitrarily choosing a certain configuration of that pile of atoms and saying well that's a healthy young human is delusional.
Why is it arbitrary?
But even if it is I would rather be biologically closer to a cute 20 year old girl than an 80 year old man
It's not arbitrary for humans but it's definitely arbitrary when it comes to physics. It's really just thermodynamics.
>Piles of atoms aren't meant to stay in the same configuration forever
But they're not the same pile of atoms, that's what biology means. It's constantly renewing itself by consuming energy.
So you/re not solving aging, you're just incrementally making human life longer.
If a biological organism can renew every aspect of itself indefinitely then that organism does not age. Aging is a biological process.
We already live freakishly long lives compared to other animals our size.
Naturally, not through some incomprehensibly technological replacement mechanisms. All "scientists" can say about being a centenary is "well just have a mediterranean diet".
what a moronic take. Ok, lets go through your saying that humans are just a pile of atoms. So are machines, and machines can be maintained to last forever; by basically exporting the excess of entropy outside that machine. Humans are machines built by protein structures. Machines can be maintained to last forever, hence human can theoretically be maintained to last forever. Unfortunately, humans weren't designed by humans and we only figured out basic maintanance protocols recently.
yeah, and also life itself is proof that shit can last for billions of years. clearly took various forms so it can deal with environment conditions at each point in time, but still around, so clearly is possible as long as the arrangement "makes sense".
God I hope you trannies are banned from ever being near a tissue culture lab. You're the reason why transhumanism is treated like a meme these days
I'm not a troony IRL.
>You're the reason why transhumanism is treated like a meme these days
I thought it was the eugenicists and moral concerns.
You've been here for quite a while. You don't seem to understand the humour of this website though. Even the previous owner declared he "wanted to be the little girl" on a number of occasions. People aren't going to stop saying stuff like that
Live Hyperborean reaction:
If we can somehow maintain your consciousness while having nanomavhines shred you apart on the genetic level to convert your chromosomes to that of a woman, would you do it even if it's the most painful experience physically possible?
If I can be confident of the safety of the procedure and that I won't come out completely traumatized by the experience I'd consider it but at that point anesthetic probably would probably be good enough to avoid that?
One would hope that anesthesia would be enough but I was just yanking your chain. I would imagine that the procedure could likely be entirely painless because of how small of a scale it would be performed on it may not even register as cellular damage
What do you think such a procedure would look like? It's too early to imagine but still.
If the technology exists such that I can become a biological female I think aging would no longer be a problem and even the concept of parenthood would be obsolete.
I imagine it would be something very reminiscent to what happens to the caterpillar inside the cocoon, total body liquefaction inside of a very well controlled chamber. I imagine it might take quite a long time for the transformation to complete, and also the time it would take to bioaccumulate the nanomachines leading up to the actual procedure. I'm no expert but I imagine that kind of change would probably have to be done layer by layer in a specific order.
Somehow I doubt that's going to be how it works since liquifying the brain seems like a one way to brain death.
Based since parenting is a scam. But there's a lot of people who just get off to the idea of having kids.
>There will just be various degrees of trannies, cooming fruitlessly forever.
At that point are they really trannies if they all pass and have female sex organs?
The concept of parenthood will be obsolete in your lifetime either way considering the development of artificial wombs
>the concept of parenthood would be obsolete.
Then so is the concept of women. There will just be various degrees of trannies, cooming fruitlessly forever.
You do realise that being a pretty girl is only a very transient experience, that lasts ten years at the most even for the most fortunate of women? They then have to transition into being mothers, a different form of female experience.
Dementia is unrelated to aging. It's copper deficiency, it only takes a long time to grow severe enough to be recognized. But there are early signs - time seems to go faster (from the memory loss) you don't know how you got some plaxe, you talked with somebody and don't know what they told you...
Biology is not real, it's a mere projection created by humans. Structures are inevitably subject to entropy over time. Aging is merely a reflection of that.
Getting people to live beyond a 100 with the health of someone way younger would be pretty incredible. I'm just wondering how long it's going to take before we find a way.
universe isnt proved to be a closed system u fricking donkey.
Do not have sex with your girlfriends mom, it makes things really weird.
If she has a hot mom just think about it like this: after a few years your own gf will be the milf you get to frick.
>Do not have sex with your girlfriends mom, it makes things really weird.
Story?
Elaborate, please.
Right looks better than left
it'd be nice if there was a cure for aging in the next 20 years
it seems likely but not 100%
Where's dude wearing shoes gone? I thought he'd have his DNA methylation results by now.
I hope he returns.
Now if only israelites would start hanging themselves...
>Sleep six to eight hours each night
>Inadequate sleep in midlife may lead to dementia
Whenever I sleep for an adequate amount of time my mind is sharp as frick. Forget about nootropics, what you need is some good sleep.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/sleep-well-and-reduce-your-risk-of-dementia-and-death-2021050322508
>cure
No, because to cure is to completely prevent the loss of information over time. But we can slow that rate of loss. I'm sure in many thousands of years we'll be able to make that rate of loss very small.
https://www.oisinbio.com/
Cure for cancer is key to reversing aging.
>I'm sure in many thousands of years we'll be able to make that rate of loss very small
we're already doing that
never we will always be mortal
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Personally, I think the first steps to "curing" aging, Is understanding how aging works. Everything breaks down over time, Some slower than others, Some much faster. We would need to find the one(possibly more) element that causes everything to whither and wittle away. There's also possible stop-gaps like gene/DNA manipulation that are being worked on to "hold us over" until a more concrete solution is found.
What's your opinion on mTOR? Is it useful to slow aging? Sirolimus is worth it? Why are they feeling cold feet about it?
Just accept the sure hand of time.
Maybe I'm moronic but since stem cells are a thing and we could regrow any organ with them, if we just replace organs each piece by piece with fresh new copies then we're good to last forever. Just be peppered for the brain replacement having no continuity of self.
Believe it or not, we will likely be using stem cells and similar treatments in the future for the purpose of reversing aging.
someone on /misc/ told me IST people are smart. for real? i don't see it. have you people heard of herbs?
IST is full of larping DEI midwits who are 140 IQ at best, and about 127 on average.
Why would we cure it. Society needs more dead old people, not more old people being made slightly younger via ungodly science
Which country wouldn't want almost every person to work forever, have no reason to save money for retirement and reduce all healthcare costs by some insane percentage. In most countries pension and healthcare for old people is about 50% of all spending.
That's all it would take for some governments to force people to take an anti aging pill.
This. I didn't even think of any of this. Thanks for the insight, anon.
>Which country wouldn't want almost every person to work forever,
countries with more people than jobs
>have no reason to save money for retirement
everyone has a reason to save for retirement. retirement would mean one's assets grow faster than one's expenses on an unbounded timeframe. but inflation will get faster when everyone is immortal
that's a 13 year old
anon no hentai!