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Ok I'll bite. How so?
It checks your libido because of its interactions with zinc.
Actually, you're all moronic. Zinc blocks the absorption of COPPER.
TAKING THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME IS NOT GOOD.
I take zinc for a few days in a row, then I take a break and take none for two days, then I take copper for two days, then I take a break for two days, then I take zinc for a few days again.
NEVER ON THE SAME DAY.
I'm not a doctor. This is not advice.
gives you brain damage and you become too moronic to fap
makes you a-sexual
Reduces zinc levels -> lower test.
I don't see how castrating yourself to achieve nofap is somehow a positive, when the whole point of nofap is to, supposedly, learn how to control your testosterone urges.
It doesn't actually seem to impact test levels even though it moderates zinc. Meanwhile zinc alone can lead to a copper deficiency. If you want to be safe increase your zinc from dietary sources alongside it.
Also it seems to take a week or so to kick in and you can halve the dosage afterwards.
or you can toss your pills out the window and consume your god-given maximum bioavailability and perfect ratio of copper:zinc in raw oysters
Copper inhibits zinc absorption.
Zinc is highly linked to sex drive.
For me its quite noticeable that my sex drive is higher when I eat beef (which is high in zinc) compared to eating chicken.
I'm trans btw if that matters
I'm only taking this after finding white hairs in my beard from deficiency. What are you on about?
does it help?
can it reverse white hairs?
I'm only 32 and have a lot of white hairs. 32 is still young. right guys?
37 and not a single gray hair, head is full of hair tol… life is wonderful old bros
would you say that the lack of gray hair is due to copper or some other secret?
I take copper 100% RDI daily in a multi-vit for years and my father is 65 and also keeps most of the hair coloured, so partially copper and partially good genetics.
You should not grey until you hit 55 like my boomer parents.
People low in copper are protected from hair loss basically. Ive observed it many times, people who go grey very early most often always have excellent hairline and hair density. That's because copper is highly estrogenic and leads to collagen overproduction which fricks up your scalp. Most people who lose hair are low in Zinc and high in Copper (one goes with the other). So don't take Copper, it's really easy to have too much and it's a blessing to have little. And hair loss is cured by Zinc mostly, never take finasteride.
This sounds too good to be true, but I think it is. I've also seen that people who go grey early have excellent hairlines which they keep until very old age, but white.
Take zinc bros!
source??
he pulled it out of his ass. I know I lot of people who are greying and balding in their 30s
Makes your dick drop off
>copper
might as well grab your tv remote, break it and then eat the circuit board inside it
weird how I just bought some
>trace element
Couldn't I just suck on a penny for 10 minutes?
Because the you'd get zinc moron. Imagine being so stupid you argue the complete opposite thing
only if its from 1982 or earlier
Someone should post a full copper QRD since Im pretty sure Ive fricked up my levels after I heard taking loads of zinc can aid fighting off common sickness.
Did a similar thing which was why I bought copper (2 mg) to correct the issue and discovered its untold effects. RDA is 0.9 mg, which is what's in multivitamins, so there's no reason to take the full dose once visible effects are apparent.
What were some effects you noticed that led you to find out you had low copper levels? What did you notice after you started taking it?
Ive had this on/off again cough that keeps popping up every few months. Still want the added benefits of zinc, but dont want the cough(if thats whats causing it). Trying to find the right balance I guess.
Felt worse the days I took zinc than the days I didn't and in addition the zinc seemed to be causing kidney stones, an effect that I hadn't previously experienced when I started taking it, even though I was using the same stack. They cleared up when I didn't take zinc, which was tied in to a realization that the dosage I was using (50 mg) was actually excessive and that I'd been taking it so for way too long. With your cough, excessive long-term zinc intake can lead to immunosuppression, so it's worth re-evaluating whether it's still beneficial.
>Felt worse the days I took zinc than the days I didn't and in addition the zinc seemed to be causing kidney stones, an effect that I hadn't previously experienced when I started taking it, even though I was using the same stack. They cleared up when I didn't take zinc, which was tied in to a realization that the dosage I was using (50 mg) was actually excessive and that I'd been taking it so for way too long. With your cough, excessive long-term zinc intake can lead to immunosuppression, so it's worth re-evaluating whether it's still beneficial.
Source: pulled it out of their ass
How the frick would they know this wasn't caused by something else in their diet?
I think it's an anti zinc shill
I took a lot of zinc too, too much and it reduced my copper and resulted in PVCs and PACs, very annoying. Taking 2mg Chelated Copper now most days trying to fix it, only been a week though. You also can't take copper for too long btw.
copper? i barely even know her!
Seems like a thread for me. The side effects of taking too much Zinc(15mg from A-Z and 30mg on its own, plus I eat a lot of eggs) for me were:
>huge anxiety that I never feel normally
>shaky hands
>very sleepy
>flaky skin and dandruff, even on beard and brows
>frequent coughs
>lower back pain
>higher blood pressure, I almost felt like someone is choking me
It all dissapears after 2-4 days when I stop taking Zinc. It needs to be cycled imo.
Jesus Christ did the cat live???
yea nice try shlomo just like vaccines right mr lampstein
Wait hold on, if copper lowers your sex drive, then it has to have some kind of chemical effect on your body. Women use copper IUDs as contraception, is copper literally castrating you? At least temporarily.
Also I answered my own question, the copper in IUDs is a spermicide, doesnt actually effect women as hard as it does men.
Copper IUDs work because copper has anti-microbial effects, it's why they used to use brass doorknobs. A copper supplement isn't pure copper though since it's meant to be digested.
I think maybe it would be good to maybe just take it on gym days(I only go 4 days a week) as a kind of maintenance. Possibly less. Copper arrived from Amazon yesterday and I wanna make sure I dont take too much of that either. I wonder if doing something like CZZCZZC for days in a week would be beneficial so you can get the best out of both without the negatives.
I was cycling copper and zinc before I bought a combined zinc-copper supplement. That's when I first noticed that I wasn't horny on the post-copper days. The zinc-copper supplement was business as usual. At the beginning of the month, since it was NNN, I decided to go copper only since I had leftover copper to see if it had an actual effect or if it was just all in my head, and it actually had the same effects.
SEE
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Anyone tried this before? I know that soft-chemical castration sounds like an extreme measure for porn addiction, but you aint know how bad it is
I have a near physical dependence on it after gooning since 12, and going without leads to vomiting and pain in the testes
shits fricked man, i need something to keep the urges down for the rough first months
Just take Finasteride like all balding trannies here and make yourself impotent permanently.
I'm old school coombrained, I take care of myself and community but keep my masturbatory habits to myself
I've made great progress, but relapses are painful now
I have done some more research, zinc and copper are inherently linked, taking copper depletes your zinc and taking zinc depletes your copper. Giving yourself a temporary zinc deficiency through taking a lot of copper sounds really moronic on paper but im not your doctor. I guess go look at the symptoms of hypocupremia and decide if gooning is worth graying out over.
Zinc dosages are higher than copper dosages though. When you take zinc supplements your body produces metallothionein proteins which neutralize both it and copper to prevent heavy metal toxicity, but copper is present in much smaller quantities in a typical diet, so when you take high doses of zinc for an extended period of time the metallothioneins produced end up neutralizing the copper in your diet leading to a deficiency. Unless you're megadosing copper at zinc levels, which you shouldn't, the effect the other way around wouldn't be equivalent.
>soft-chemical castration
There's some bullshit for that as well that medieval monks used but you don't want to take it.
If you're talking about chaste berries they sound like mumbo jumbo
Wish I could just ask a doctor for something to keep urges low
>Wish I could just ask a doctor for something to keep urges low
they'll probably turn you into a woman
Hence why I don't go.
They'll send me to therapy for what amounts to a substance abuse problem caused by an addictive personality.
>keep urges low
Take aromatase inhibitors. Both test, estrogen, and even progesterone modulate what we consider "horniness" but estrogen in particular is responsible for the "down bad" kind of desperate horniness that you usually cave to. As long as your testosterone isn't cripplingly low, nuking your estrogen won't kill your libido, but it will help you to control your libido rather than be controlled by it.
Idealab's Gonadin is a great start for lowering estrogen
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/gonadin-liquid-steroid-optimizer-for-lab-r-d.15620/
The high copper dosages are probably preferable to nuking your estrogen. This is a terrible idea, you would be better off going to a therapist, even if they try and sissy hypno you.
>preferable to nuking estrogen
>this is a terrible idea
You have no idea what you're talking about. Anyone who has access to the internet, and is on IST, has excess estrogen. Full stop. It's just not a thing to actually get your estrogen low enough to have adverse symptoms in civilization. Most of what people actually experience is a lowering of stress hormones, which makes them more aware and therefore more uncomfortable with reality.
Its not that I dont agree with you that people could probably use less estrogen, its that there are better ideas than using an AI to make yourself effectively sterile. Bringing your estrogen to nearly zero is objectively different to using enough of an AI to lower it to points that might be desireable.
>AIs make you sterile
You've been memed by modern medicine.
you fricking idiots have zero understanding of what estrogen does
And you fricking idiot have 0 understand of what an absence of estrogen does.
Also, SSRIs reduce libido heavily, citalopram is easily found online if you dont want to go and beg a therapist for it.
>If you're talking about chaste berries they sound like mumbo jumbo
I tried it it didn't really work and sucked, also it apparently lowers test so it's a moronic idea.
Have you tried fasting away your urge to stroke your dick? I have been on a cut for a while now and I have nearly no urge to jerk off. I just dont eat enough to expense calories for nut.
Unfortunately I have been chronically malnourished linked to smoking and jerking off
A breakthrough in my addiction was realizing I was confusing hunger/bathroom signals for arousal and the post-nut haze suppressing them afterwards
It's a similar principle. If you don't have enough calories your body won't put what you have towards getting you to bust a nut. If you don't have excess zinc, same deal, it's not going to put it towards coom.
Copper doesn't inhibit zinc uptake. Your body prioritizes zinc uptake over copper. That's why taking too much zinc for too long will frick your shit up unless you add copper beyond the trace dietary amounts you normally get.
Whenever I pop 30mg of Zinc before bed I wake up with morning wood. How does that work?
your nuts are full
how many copper pipes I gotta lick to get an effective does?
Just shove one up ur ass for drip feeding copper
I don't think Home Depot will appreciate that
didn't work. i just ate some sunflower seeds but now i'm watching troony porn
that picture says 100 grams that's 2/3rds of a cup
im taking caps with 20mg of zintch and 2mg of copper. seems about right but thinking it might be too high copper. Didnt even notice it had copper when I first bought them.
2mg sound very little
you sure it's enough?
I take zma pretty much daily.
Saw a grey hair in my beard.
Started drinking water from a copper cup.
I don't know if it's actually gone but I haven't seen that grey hair in months.
Ye4s, it ''cures'' lowering zinc and consequently rising aromatase overexpression then e2
Copper and zinc need to be balanced and supplemented together if you want to take them.
Protip: you don't need them
Stop with this internet meme of ''life changing supplements'' like ashwagandha, racetams, boron, etc
This one actually works though
And I didn't even notice it was good for hair until the other anons mentioned it, and realized that grey hairs I've had popping up occassionally just stopped in the past few months in connection with my copper intake.
You people will do anything to not improve yourselves huh
Any copper rich foods that I can eat to get my RDI of it?
Beef liver has a moronic amount of it (18 times the RDA in 1 4 ounce serving) that it's advised to eat it only once weekly. Oysters and cooked shiitake mushrooms are also high in copper, and 18 cashews are enough to hit RDA.
oysters are the best, literal god given ratio of zinc to copper but also the most bioavailable. a dozen oysters has something like 9x your rda for zinc plus something like 3mg copper which is only 3 or 4 days' worth. a dozen oysters a week is the actual secret to longevity
Do you eat the canned version?
no, i live by the water and buy unshucked raw farmed oysters for a dollar per
>coper
minerals don't really do anything
bros... I take a zinc suppliment everyday... how fricked am I...