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>roid
>work hard, look juicy
>someone finds out you roid
>they think all your progress was exclusively due to drugs
the worst part? they're at least 80% right.
try 100%
ok but why do you care what people think
i'll do you one better: why care about any thing?
Because I've seen High School Musical twice. We're all in this together.
If you didn't care what people think you wouldn't roid unless you're genuinely insane like Rich Piana
nah bro I did one cycle like 3 years ago and like I don't wanna continue taking roids because when you run more cycles it's a choice for life and I don't wanna commit to that but workouts are so much better on gear, better pumps, better recovery, better overall well being, shit feels really good when you're doing it just for yourself but at the same it's damaging to your body so it's not a tradeoff I'm willing to make long term
How much of the gains did u keep after going off?
actually much more than I expected, I was always told I'd just lose all gains but I feel like I kept more than I'd have gained if I trained natty during that time, also during that time more veins showed up around my arms and biceps and they stayed, strength wise I also kept a decent levels of strength
the biggest problem is initial period because when you T level drops, so does your E2 level, which makes you drop a lot of water weight so you think you're rapidly losing your gains and it will continue losing at this pace (you won't) and most people at this point just jump back on gear
>confidence
>feel good all the time
>horny all the time
>superior strength
>superior size
Yeah sooo attentional lol
>low t
>copes with roids
Many such cases
nobody is low t on roids dyel browncel
If you weren't low t you wouldn't have to roid
Remember roiders are no better than trannies
because it’s instinctual moron. you’re literally autistic or mentally ill if you don’t care what people around you think
lol what kind of cope is this, roiders literally destroy their health because they want people to think they're muscular
turbo insecurity
Why else would I roid?
Practical reasons:
>Lifting for a short time and being dissatisfied with progress
>Having a shitty program that you don't follow to the t and wondering why you're not making progress
>Wondering why you have a small chest when you don't even bench 2.5 plates
>Thinking you need roids to do 2/3/4/5
>Not comprehending the difference between novice/intermediate/late-intermediate stages of lifting and how to avoid plateaus
Psychological reasons:
>Bullied throughout childhood, leading to fixation on physique like a cartoon villain
>Anti-social/introverted, thinking you need to change your body rather than your attitude to make people approach you
>Insecurity/body-dismorbius preventing you from loving yourself and accepting yourself as you are
>Seething about your appearance being compounded by poor hygiene
moronic reasons:
>Thinking Tren/D-Bol will reduce the amount of effort you need to do to get big
>Thinking a single cycle will make you look any different
Reasons I personally think you shouldn't do it:
>You haven't even squatted 400lbs, so you literally don't know what it's like to lift heavy and how that makes lifting psychologically taxxing. A heavy single or double is worlds different than 10 reps, and if you cannot handle it, even if you take roids you won't be able to push your body to the extent you'd need to to reap the benefits.
>Indicated by your self-esteem, lack of lifting history, lack of strength, lack of goal, lack of programming, You literally are not psychologically ready to do a cycle
Same, but I don’t consider roiders to be people
Why would I want to roid?
Do I want to look good? Yes
Do I want a similar physique to your image? Yes
Do I want to live long and be healthy? Yes
Do I have to get there NOW? No
Am I okay with working out hard and slowly getting results? Yes
Roiding is for pathetic cucks with no will power, determination or virtues, if you can only achieve your goals in life by taking shortcuts/cheating you will never succeed in anything.
>Do I want to get there NOW? No
Mate you will never get there without roids lmfao. Lift for as many years as you want. Not gonna happen
the only things from that picture you can't achieve without roids are the disproportionate dumb-looking delts and the level of vascularity at that bf%
Absolutely delusional.
t. doesn't even lift
My genetics are good enough that I am happy with my natty limit. I don't sit in front of mirrors posing like some homosexual so I haven't developed body dysmorphia like you morons
how long have you been lifting? couple months? you will see that people that roid are the most dedicated with the gym and have been lifting for long enough to see that natty lifting is a meme
>dies
>heart defect
>never did any cardio
>never did any physical activity as a teenager
>took absurd amount of roids
>while taking absurd amounts of drugs
>while drinking
>goes to thailand and takes EVERYTHING
>roided to the bone and high as a kite goes to frick ladyboys in a fricking sauna
OMG HOW COULD HE DIE???
Because he was a fricking moron, not the roids fault
>you
>dies
lol whats your point? so if i stay natty im gonna live forever, oh heckin basedrino thanks guys! ill never touch those nasty steroids because drugs are bad mmkay!
Think again. Natty here
im sorry bro but to me that just looks like a gymcelling unimpressive pshysique, but i hardly think anyone looks impressive natty, dont get me wrong you look good, but you dont have that wow factor that only roids give you
>dont get me wrong you look good,
>You look good
That's what I set out for isn't it? So without steroids, I got exactly what I wanted. So I'm content. That debate ended right there. I don't think anyone argues that natural physiques can look "more impressive" than roided, but ffs you can still. Look. Good. This is only after 1.5 years of lifting on a strength program, without focus on hypertrophy, so there's still so much I can do to my physique to make it grow and develop.
Let it be shown that you do NOT need to use roids to have a good physique. QED.
>you do NOT need to use roids to have a good physique.
Noone has ever implied that
And you feeling good about yourself is the most important. I'm 6'3, been training 10 years and roiding for 2, and I can't take my tanktop off during sex because of body dismorphia. I literally haven't worn a t shirt in a decade and have to wear jackets even in summer
Worst part is, the bigger and more shredded I become, the worse I feel when I look at my body
Interesting how you answered that anon's body pic with a pic of Zyzz instead of your own.
thank god I'm not so dopamine brainrotten I think that looks bad
You look like a melting tumor.
Once you start getting you're squat up, you too will make it anon.
Gyno
you will never be a woman
ahahahahahahahaha for real, looking good man
Based transphobia. I'll transition back shortly.
The real jujutsu was the Kaisen we made along the way. I think I feel a song coming on
I AM natty. My small chest (breasticles) confirms that.
Goals for this year - commit to a proper chest program. I definitely under hit it by not benching as much as I could have. I only benched once or twice a week. Gonna make it so I bench twice a week guaranteed, then add some dips and cable crosses because I hear those're really good.
We're all gonna fricking make it brother
Hell yeah brother!
you don't look bad but too lean for a natty. Also super unfortunate chest genetics.
Your fancy collagé is missing the picture in which he is ded lmao
Partially true.
Roids are fine if you have a goal. Otherwise you are ruinibg your body for showing off to nobodies for few months
>Do I have to get there NOW? No
>Am I okay with working out hard and slowly getting results? Yes
This is the noob misconception that's behind every anti-roid post. They think any natty can look like a roider with enough time.
idk how much time you think you have on Earth, but its less than you think. Get it done today or look back wondering where your life went.
It's moreso that the difference between a great natty physique and an enhanced physique isn't worth pinning
>top 1% natty gets the same results as any moron who eats dbol's for breakfast and does some curls at home
you're comparing apples to pineapples. if the same industrious natty pinned he would be men's fizeek material.
The downside of steroids is rapid aging of your skin, something every roider experiences
>inb4 Mike O'Hearn
The man has work done on his face, you can see he got botox injections, good for him but it's clear that he would look his age or older without the work he had done.
Liver damage and hair loss is obviously highly dependent on your genetic makeup and I give it to the roiders that the normal person probably does more damage to their liver with getting shitfaced twice a week than someone running a Dbol cycle.
>Mike O'Hearn
He's natural. Notice those who know him at the gym and irl all back up this claim?
Yes, for a good reason. Roids seriously affect negatively pretty much every organ of your body. And for what, just looking good or lifting more? Frick your vanity
How do some people look so good roider? Like the guy in the pic has a great balance of fat and muscle, and doesn't look too big or too lean at the same time, like his physique is just right for a roider.
Good genetics, he looked amazing as a natty as well
i'm a gay twink so i'm quite happy with the physique a moderate amount of natty work will get me, and hair/skin aging are extremely undesirable
this physique looks disgusting to women
you're literally destroying your body for homosexuals
stay natty frens and remember ottermode is all you need
This is the light that all riders see when it's already too late.
>no you don't understand everything you do in your life you must do for the approval of women
There's no better reason to roid for most men. Unless you are a pro athelete or actor/performer, the only other reasons are worse. Huge muscles do not improve quality of life.
being a fake and gay roidtroony will always mean you are a fake and gay roitroony. No matter how you try to spin it.
I would if it weren't for the premature balding
Why shouldn't I do just one anavar cycle in the spring? Talk me out of it
t. natty
do it i dont care
post updates under the pseudonym of an anavar related pun
>Because you bench less than 300
>Because you think you NEED roids to bench 300
>Because you squat less than 405
>Because you think you NEED roids to squat 405
>Because you deadlift less than 495
>etc.
No wonder you're tiny.
Nobody ever offered me any roids
>lift for health and functionality
>avoid steroids because I'm not there to impress gays (actual and clout seeking dickriders)
The only people who roid have complexes or their job is a sport.
Dude aint even big
Why roid? I mog 99% of the population without it.
The main appeal of roids to me is that you can be lean and big. In order for me to have abs as a natty I need to cut to like 160-170 lbs at 5’11 which is really fricking small.
More of a money issue for me
False. I'll never roid because I don't take short cuts.
enjoy being late
You'll die at 29 like joesthetics. So what are you arriving early for
Girls don't like roided physiques anyway. So what the hell are you destroying your body for?
>Girls don't like roided physiques anyway
This is simply not true my man. Whoever repeats this line is just coping
I’m personally glad at this point. It’s so much easier to stand out. I believed that but didn’t care since I already had a long term girlfriend. Even she said the whole ‘I don’t like too much muscle’ routine (didn’t tell her I used gear, Kek). You can’t go by what women say. She is way more turned on now that I have a top tier physique despite me being a pretty good natty before. And the attention from women has increased a ton. And it’s like more sexual. I was decently good looking and 6’3 before so I had some attention from women but it’s night and day after multiple cycles. And the type of interest is different. Before it was more I want to get to know this guy and date him now it’s more tinged with lust. Cannot believe how prevalent the myth is. The main reason is people think you do one cycle and look like jay cutler or even the rock, when the reality is 90% of guys on gear either you’d have no idea they’re using or they’re fat
None of this ever happened. Post body and before and after
here you go, moron.
>when the reality is 90% of guys on gear either you’d have no idea they’re using or they’re fat
While this IS true, it's also really just one more argument against using roids to begin with.
Why would he die at 29?
>girls don't like roided physiques
... and?
>destroying your body
In what way? You do realise you don't HAVE TO roid like you're preparing for the olympia
I don't encourage roiding but it's obvious most people ITT have no idea what they're talking about or what roids do
i like progressing as a natty. for me it's about the numbers (lifts) mostly and the satisfaction of lifting more.
its like an RPG game. roiding is using a temporary stat elixir to buff your stats.
natty progression is leveling up
I've wanted to, but then I think about what happens when I stop, and that just seems like a horrible fate to consign myself to
I'll admit that sometimes I do wish to be roided just to go way beyond my current strength. But I train too much cardio for that
Na, I just don’t know were to get them. I’ve been told it’s not cool to just ask a big guy at my gym if he can hook it up lol
Why do people who roid seem so desperate for validation from natties
Boogie has outlived EVERY roider that IST idolizes
your 'gains' are fake, you've accomplished nothing
Steroids substitute hard work, so a normie would be impressed by your "size", but anyone who has lifted for at least 6 months knows that your gains are fake since once you stop pinning, you'll just deflate within 2 months.
>roids substitute hard
It's the opposite, are you moronic
You train twice as hard eat twice as much since you recover faster allowing you to go wven further and lifting even heavier
>you'll just deflate within 2 months
Only if you're elite bodybuilder level that's so past the natural limit you need huge quantities of roids just to maintain the size. Otherwise if you stop roiding but keep training and most importantly eating like before, there will be barely any changes in your physique
Literally only men like this body type. You gay or something? You trying to attract dudes, gay?
Lol frick you europoor. Your european white women are being fricked by muscular indian refugees with big brown wieners
>I want to shrink my balls , go bald and die in my 50's at best
sorry I don't say this
I somewhat agree but it has frick all to do with cowardes. I would put the temptation of roiding in the same group as the temptation of going on a murder/rape spree but then you realize how moronic it would be and the long term consequences are not worth the temporary satisfaction. What I'm trying to get at here is that you're a low impulse control Black person brain Neanderthal.
Roiding isn't worth it unless you're already juicy af and/or strong af natty. If roiding won't take you to the world level then there's zero point to bothering because you don't have the genetics. The vast majority of roiders don't even look like they are on gear. They look roughly average, but will die sooner than natties.
Id rather die early and live like a brad tier gym bro than be a genetic dead end incel who was stuck at 1/2/3/4 for 5 years because I have the skeletal structure of a woman. Roids also masculinized my face and took me from a low 4 to a solid 6. I wouldve probably killed myself already if it wasnt for roids
>Roids also masculinized my face and took me from a low 4 to a solid 6.
Imagine roiding for this
>taking roids to be mid
many, many such cases
Post body
>roids masculinized my face
post age and cycle
I got news for you buddy. The ugly dyel incel (all by your own admission, mind you) is the real you. The roids are a cope.
How this post was supposed to upsell anyone on roids, I have no idea. Seems like just another argument against it if anything. But you can't outrun the reality of who and what you are forever.
yea tell that to all the b***hes who sucked my dick and worshipped my abs and were obsessed with me. I guess that is a cope and I shouldve just roped at 18 and died a virgin like I originally planned.
"I got news for you buddy" jesus christ bro you must be such a homosexual in real life
>yea tell that to all the b***hes who sucked my dick and worshipped my abs
It still sounds like you hate yourself. Even if those fantasies were true, still didn't change who you were inside anon. You can still make it. Just love yourself.
No bro I dont hate myself and those arent fantasies. Roids saved me from being a bitter seething incel on the verge of roping. And Ive come off them and been totally fine since then. Getting a taste of normiedom and respect from having a good fizeek lifted me out of a dark place bro. Roids arent just always "le bad" you literally fell for DARE propaganda
What will you do when they wear off?
>Noone has ever implied that
Literally every seething incel on this board is saying "natty lifting is a joke". Every day, there's at least 2-3 threads saying why you need roids to look good and make progress. Countless screenshots of idiots who had no idea how to program and look DYEL are used to confirm ideas that drug-induced lifting is the only lifting worth pursuing. So yeah, everyone is explicitly saying you need roids to have a good physique. Those people have never lifted properly.
>And you feeling good about yourself is the most important.
based.
>I guess that is a cope and I shouldve just roped at 18 and died a virgin like I originally planned.
Unironically yes, you should have. You're a walking false flag.
>Looking good is everything in dating.
And you shouldn't need to roid to look good enough to date in the first place. If you do, you're genetic trash.
Tbf, one's ability to respond well to anabolics is actually a sign of good genetics. Some people don't have a good response.
>just accept your circumstances and give up before exhausting all other options
Will never understand this mindset. You probably pay all your taxes and apologize to the cops when they pull you over. You pushover
It doesn’t even matter who the real him is because everybody is gonna judge him on what he looks like, including women. You can be some weak homosexual with nothing going for him and if you look good you’ll slay pussy with ease. That’s the whole appeal of looking good.
If you want to be a better person, do it for yourself but don’t expect women to give a frick when it’s all said and done. Looking good is everything in dating.
Haha man that sucks. Glad I don't need to wreck my organs to have good lifts or look decent. Hope you can fraud long enough to pass on your genes. You might be a skelly by nature but the world needs morons willing to burn themselves to ash for their goals
It's this kind of mentality that's so sad. How people must be at their absolute lowest point in order to think sacrificing years of their lifespan for momentary acceptance. No drug is gonna teach you to love yourself anon.
In a fair system I'd agree. But biology is anything but fair. A longer life does not equate to a better one, and people are better to those they see as attractive. If that anon can cut his lifespan in half to snag a woman he loves, have some kids he can be proud of, and kicks the bucket at 50, I'd say that's a life worth living. The value passed on being a willingness to sacrifice and risk all for your best chances. If he succeds, he's right. If he fails, then he went down giving it his all. A warning to other frauders that it's not enough to get big.
I did a mild test cycle and went from dyel to looking good, and it's all stayed on except the water weight 1+ year later. No hair loss genes and got no hair loss. The only reason not to do a cycle is if you have hair loss genes, in which case it's over for you anyway
Based cheater. Now just tell all the normies you are natty because they will seethe because they aren't willing to do anything to make their lives better.
Its like how fat people get mad at skinny people or dumb people get mad at smart people. "Natty lifters" have mental illness and will sperg out if confronted with the reality and would rather spend a decade spinning wheels to get mogged by an 18 year old on SARMs that did some pushups.
hope you're future children don't develop your insecurities anon
children?
Yeah, he's not going to have any, because he'll be infertile.
>You're the king of the highway
you are an idiot
>I have bigger traps than the roider
Sad!
if it didnt make you age at warpspeed id be hitting some hgh and trenboloni sandwiches no doubt.
the guy in OP's picture is 22 years old btw
I want to roid but I have no idea where anyone would even procure such substances
No. Roid effects will not pass onto my children, so I fight with every last breath to maximize my natty testicles' epigenetic competency. I eat, lift, and sleep for the unborn. Clowning around with inflated strength (and ultimately heart problems) is not for me. My authenticity was already proven by my natty ancestors, so I do them honor by lifting with what I have.
>Deep down all men want to troon out but they are just too cowardly
there's nothing brave about destroying your literal manhood and making yourself dependent on HRT injections for life to even resemble a male, while adding another annoying chore into your life, as if shit like brushing your teeth or shovering regularly wasn't insufferable enough
Honestly yes, if you care about getting pussy then having a fake natty physique will increase your SMV a lot even if you're ugly.
Only obstacle I had was money but now I got a job and gonna hop on 500mg test a week once I get my bf down to 12%.
Natty lifting is torture and I've been only lifting for a year.
>boohoo lifting without exogenous test is too hard
You realize you can get to a sloppy 3/4/5 at 15-20% bf and most people without body dysmorphia in the real world will think you're big and strong? Lets add a chemical dependency to your hobby, amazing. If it actually is your hobby and not something you do for external validation, it just doesn't make sense.
Nobody cares about 1/2/3/4 or even ur dogshit sloppy 2/3/4/5 while being a fatfrick. Men complimenting you doesn't mean shit.
The problem with natty lifting is never being able to be big and lean with abs, any girl will choose a skinny/ottermode dude over a bloated frick like you.
>muh I don't lift for women and only for health
Then why are you following a power shitter/bodybuilder routine while bulking with unhealthy diets? If you didn't care about women or normies validation then you should be doing cardio a few times a week for ur "health" meme, homosexual.
Sloppy? I've seen ripped people do 3/4/5 because they're athletic college dudes in their prime. The idea that people need to be on roids to even get 4 plates is moronic as hell to me. Programming slows down as you progress into the intermediate phase, doesn't make progress 0... Anyone who's seen that dyel 155lb asian guy bench 405 knows that it can be done.
>Nobody cares about 1/2/3/4 or even ur dogshit sloppy 2/3/4/5 while being a fatfrick
>Thinks 2/3/4/5 requires being a fat frick
See? This is how I know you don't lift, or haven't lifted for more than 3 months.
>Men complimenting you doesn't mean shit.
Nothing will when you hate yourself this much. How do you make yourself immune to compliments? By seething. Therapy will help you more than steroids ever will.
>The problem with natty lifting is never being able to be big and lean with abs
Yet many natty lifters have just that, only difference is they're not arnold. You know Ronnie Coleman, the biggest guy in recent years, struggled to find a gf because of how monstrous he looked?
>any girl
Incel wording
>will choose a skinny/ottermode dude over a bloated frick like you
Nobody's telling you to be fat.
>If you didn't care about women or normies validation
It's stupidly easy to impress normies, and fun fact- most people you want to impress ARE normies. I felt small as shit after cutting, yet people still call me "the jacked jock". Brotha, you don't have to look like Arnold to be big lol.
The amount of seething in this anon is insane.
>Yet many natty lifters have just that, only difference is they're not arnold.
Post a natty that looks like this or even Zyzz, I'll wait. Also post your body aswell, DYEL.
>You know Ronnie Coleman, the biggest guy in recent years, struggled to find a gf because of how monstrous he looked?
Nobody is talking about being Ronnie or Jay size, even if you wanted to look as big as a Mr Olympia you wouldn't be able to because those guys have 0.000001 genetics on top of blasting GH, Insulin, grams of test and orals with a fully dialed in diet and training, most fake natties are doing 300-600mg of test which will never get to their size.
See:
>Uses Zyzz as a bar
Zyzz was relatively small compared to other bobybuilders who've used em. Seems to me like you think any brother who looks good must be on roids
>6' 210lbs 6% bf
>small
I mean sure dude but not really small by any normie standards holy shit
>He's huge compared to normal dudes
>He's small compared to roided dudes
>But at least he's still huge compared to normal dudes
>Being huge compared to normies is what matters
>Natty lifting does that
The inanity of roid trannies never ceases to amuse me. Does natty lifting work or not? Pick one. There are people out there who have valid reasons to roid. You don't. I can tell.
Natty lifters can always choose to roid, but roidtrannies will never be able to truly call themselves natty, even if they stop.
>natty
>uncut
>unvaxxed
My body is a pristine temple.
Not everyone is mentally ill, bud
>too cowardly
too intelligent u ment bot - only morons literally shoot themselves at functioning balls for host of ridiculous side effects
>but u can, like, u know, trt maaan
so instead of beating up muh balls up u want me to cut them off bot? I know u want me to but u can eat shit bot, ain't going to lol
True
KEK most wouldn't even get to that even if they roided. You also need the genetics for that. Most roidedcels look like dyels
Roids are an iq test. If you play that card to break a world record you are smart. If you roid to have a 350 lbs squat and muh shoulder caps you are a lazy failure and should just quit.
It is an IQ test and you failed.
>Roiding a bit to get ahead in life and claiming fake natty and maintaining your health
Based and literally everyone smart is doing it. Billionaires are doing it.
>Blasting grams and killing yourself to look like a "freak" that "obviously roids"
moronic
Now this is some cope. This is a lot of cope. Post your billions roiding made you you flaming homosexual. Kek.
with your 2 digit IQ it would be hard to explain anything to you sirs. I didn't say people became billionaires by roiding (although tons of people become millionaires by roiding and getting movie roles or influencers etc). I am saying that people that have everything in the world still envy the physique only obtainable with steroids.
Easy to restore natural test function. 99%+ of people return to normal function in less than a year off roids with zero PCT effort. With shit like HCG you can keep it even while on cycle much less worry about restoring it after.
>"maintaining your health" by destroying your capacity for natural test production (and fertility)
moron
Tldr
I'd like to be consistently jacked rather than deflate like a balloon 4 months out of the year and then totally lose all my gains when the heart attacks start kicking in your late 30s.
>live fast die young bro
They all died like b***hes begging for one more year of their life and it's too late at that point. Every single roid troony goes on the cardio kick at the end then dies.
Most roiders generally don't look good or aesthetic either way. Judging roiders based on social media is like judging women's looks based on porn. Your average gym rat roider ruins his health for mediocre results.
This is true for me. I have been considering roiding but I just don't have the guts to do it. I just keep thinking that it will frick me up long term and I won't have any endogenous test in the future, or any kids etc. And the fear of future consequences keeps me at bay, otherwise I'd start frauding today, I have no ethical qualms with "cheating nature" or "not going through the labor like everybody else". Just that I don't wanna be fricked up in the future for some temporary gains, shich will probably go away as soon as you stop roiding (and no, I just don't wanna be the kind of guy whose whole existence relies on a needle forever)
Anti-roider here. Let's talk about the truths and falsehoods of steroids - Mythbusting about steroids
>Steroids are bad
Why. It depends on how you use them.
>Steroids take effort away
If used properly, they actually increase the amount of effort you have to put in. Idiots who've never pushed themselves who start a cycle will make gains they would've made naturally, just faster. To see "beyond" natty gains, you'd have to have some history of lifting so you know how to push your body properly.
>Steroids are the coward's way out
People are human, and everyone has their own reasons for cycling. Unfortunately, 90% of the morons on IST do it for the worst possible reasons - body dismorbius culminated by years of inceldom. Drugs might serve as an escape (isn't guaranteed), but when they wear off, that shit will come back and double down hard.
Other people use steroids to achieve athletic goals. But depression/body-dysmorbius are terrible reasons to start doing cycles.
>steroids are cheating
Life isn't a game. No rules are being broken.
>Steroids in competition are cheating
Nobody disputes this.
>Steroids can kill
True, but most of the shit that kills people on steroids are blasting ridiculously high doses of them without ever coming off cycle. There WILL be negative health consequences, don't get me wrong, but you can still live a full life after you come off cycle. Assuming you come off cycle. Otherwise...
Now, with all that said, why am I opposed to steroids?
>Different life goals
I'm in a sport (rock climbing) where weight/strength ratio matters. I do not want to carry around a bunch of extra muscle mass I don't need. Cycling will actively impair my ability to climb.
>Rapidly accelerating aging
Being on steroids makes you look like a greek god. But the moment you cycle off, it takes its toll. Your hairline recedes/you go bald. Your skin ages. You look 40 by the time you're 25. It's insane how much this shit damages your appearance. Looking like a god in my late 20's is NOT worth looking like I'm 50 when I'm 30.
>Complications related to steroids
The complications of steroids don't kick in until later in life, and I don't want to have to deal with that.
>Never struggled to find gf
Basically this. My natty physique was all I needed on tinder, and I never struggled to find people to hook-up with. People think you need steroids for the hookup body- You don't
>all this cope
Up yours, OP. I don't even take creatine.
>
Nah im good
Give me $ and ill roid, hou homosexual
No I don’t. I have more important things in my life than growing my flesh beyond what nature intended because gay men and 0.0000000001% of women find it attractive.
Deep down all roidies want to roid but they're just too courageously.
deep down roiders want to be natty again but they are too cowardly
>too cowardly
more like i don't want to get gyno and go bald.
I don't care about roiding if you reached a genetic peak (so around 10 years of training) before roiding, I can't respect you otherwise.
>deep down all natties want to be bigger but don't wanna inject poison and destroy their natural test production
wow stunning intellect OP, you really showed them
BELIEVE IT
to answer your question last thread, it's Jujutsu Kaisen you autist
Mom said to chill with workout so I dont get too big, told her what she's picturing are roidgays. For once I agree with her about aesthetics - very very rarely do you see a roider that looks balanced, most are extreme in some way which makes them look freakish and unnatural, I think this is because to roid is often a low iq move(not thinking ahead) so they cant plan out their physique goals and they often just "go hard" and frick around, then end up with giant traps, huge biceps, no forearms, giant quads, tiny calves, huge chest with subpar abs etc.
there are exceptions where roids make the look complete, but very rarely
>Text cloud connects to his post id information
So you have a tiny dick nice dude
I did a mild bbc cycle and went from dyel to looking good, and it's all stayed on except the water weight 1+ year later. No hair loss genes and got no hair loss. The only reason not to do a bbc is if you have hair loss genes, in which case it's over for you anyway
Reminder
natty lifting is a maymay
Who is top?
All this proves is that women look better untrained.
I don’t know where to get any bro or I would
If you are too lazy to find UGL sources online that literally ship directly to your house you are also probably too lazy to have a responsible cycle or be consistent in the gym/with your diet. If you really want it you will get it. The same with anything else in life (job, money, girls etc...)
Lol bro I’m bigger than you natty
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I am a coward for not wanting the side effects of roids. Yes.
Verification not required.
Life is all about finding something that is worth really pursuing anon. If lifting isn't for you and you don't think the risk is worth it then I totally understand. I just hope you know at some point if you actually want to live and not be an NPC (like most people) you are going to have to take a risk at some point for something you think is worth it. Honestly you are better off just running or biking or doing calisthenics and twink maxing with abs if you are afraid of taking lifting seriously.
If you only want to do what is normal and safe you might as well suck start a shotgun instead of spending the next 60 years being a wageslave.
Why are you so pissed off?
The cons outweigh the pros. Nothing to be risk adverse about.
and what are the cons anon? you think testosterone is going to turn you into a troony because you listened to obese people on IST that literally never post body?
Spiritual servitude, emasculation, etc. Same shit that happens when you take any other hardcore drug.
I think the key issue at play is that anyone would honestly argue in favor of drugs despite the enormity of the risks. How little value can people find in their lives such that they need to administer poison? People who peddle steroids as the answer (note that not all steroid users do this, in fact it's usually the incels doing it) are as ridiculous as the homeless fricks in LA peddling heroin acting like it'll solve their problems. Yeah it's gonna make you pretty fricking happy in the short term, but your life off drugs won't be much different than your life before them, and will probably be much worse
>hardcore drug
>testosterone
Dude 80% of IST is taking SSRIs, benzos and israelite stimulants like Adderall every day that are 10000x more dangerous and shitty for you. People are just afraid to do anything "against the rules" because they are sheep/goyim/cattle whatever you want to call them.
Steroids will never be legal because they actually make your life better and are cheap.
And then you become 100% dependent on them for life because your balls shrivel up and no longer produce testosterone.
>Making your life better
> Roid trannies are dying arround 50-60
Ur death date is genetics unless ur blasting so much gear
Roids should be legalized
Roid trannies will never be real men
I do want to roid.
badly.
but I'm risk adverse.
I like my heart being a healthy size.
I like not having a police record.
I like my reproductive organs working correctly.
I like being able to pass drug tests.
I like having, at the very least, the illusion that I know what I'm putting in my body and that Ivan didn't accidently mix the wrong poorly labeled raw materials together incorrectly in a bathtub.
And I KNOW each of those statements are unlikely. However the risk is there, it can't be denied the risk is there and unfortunately, that's what stops me from roiding.
Also I have no idea where I'd even get any and this post is NOT A REQUEST FOR INFO
To follow this up, I wish they would legalize it.
if they did I'd get the following:
1. Id know it was manufactured correctly because big pharma would now have the greenlight to produce it and competition would drive new and amazing innovation in it.
2. I could be medically monitored during cycles
3. No risk of losing my job due to drug test or police record.
4. My balls / heart / and other victims of my substance abuse might be more easily monitored / taken care of as capitalism would ensure the legalized roids I take have these concerns in mind when private industry take the reigns for the sake of profit.
If you write your post like you're on reddit you're a homosexual frick you. If you put spaces between each individual thought and CAPITALIZE words like this you're a homosexual. You're a homosexual frick you.
i don't want to convince you or anything but
>I like my heart being a healthy size.
test alone won't really enlrage your heart, I have normal sized heart at 31, been using gear for years
>I like not having a police record.
in most countries using/possession for personal use is legal, only possession of large quantities/intent to redistribute is prosecuted
>I like my reproductive organs working correctly.
this is actually a concern but hcg alleviates this issue, and all the people blasting shit ton of gear (cbum, hall, shaw etc, basically the biggest players in the game who blast a frick ton of gear) got their wives pregnant just fine without issues
>I like being able to pass drug tests.
okay that's valid, you won't
>I like having, at the very least, the illusion that I know what I'm putting in my body and that Ivan didn't accidently mix the wrong poorly labeled raw materials together incorrectly in a bathtub.
this is largely dependent if you can get a good source
Appreciate the honest report for that anon, but I want to point out
>>I like my heart being a healthy size.
test alone won't really enlrage your heart, I have normal sized heart at 31, been using gear for years
Using a sample-size of 1 is a terrible idea. Cardiac hypertrophy isn't guaranteed, but it is a legitimate medical concern that affects a substantial amount of steroid users. Prolonged use dramatically increases this risk. Moreover, reproductive issues aren't the only issues at play.
Substantially increased risk of:
>Liver tumors
>early heart attacks
>strokes
>Kidney failure
With all that said, for every top athlete in the olympics who was juiced to frick and lived a long happy life, there have been lives ruined by the same dosages. There is a reason the medical community unanimously discourages their use.
BELIEVE IT
>Be me
>walk into walGerens
>No roids available
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>natty for 34 years
>all my lifts stalled for months
>injected 300mg testosterone yesterday
>two hour back/bi workout today
>all my lifts went up, went so hard that I have bruises under my armpits
>feel like i am cumming all over my body
>hungry as frick
This is so unbelievably based.
Deep down every roider wish they had my 170 lbs dyel physique
My goal is to be healthy. I would happily take drugs that were safe & helped me achieve my goals. I dont know of any, and I value my life more than you do I guess.
I don't want the sides nor do I want to buy from chinks/wet backs who will put anything in a jar. if it was legal and regulated I'd be all over it. not injecting my body with shit I bought with Bitcoin.
Anon I would never buy from randoms either. The shit I buy with Bitcoin is made in legit laboratories and pharmaceutical grade. If you are a total sperg you could even buy the shit and then pay a reputable lab to test it and be 1000000% sure it is legit but the good websites and good labs already do this shit and wouldn't waste the time or money destroying their reputation to send you bunk chemicals that are insanely easy and cheap to manufacture.
If you are a total gay about Bitcoin transactions they will take a list of other options like money orders or zelle or whatever the frick. You are just making excuses.
It will never be legal because it's a cheap drug that actually works and makes you feel good.