do finasteride side effects go away ? i tried fin last month or so (0.25 mg) and i stop for a couple days because of the side effects then i start taking it again because i really wanna use it to save my hair, side effects i got were insomnia, fatigue, my gyno flares up, itchiness, some anxiety, idk about the last one i already have mental problems, should i continue taking it and see if the side effects go away or should i stop ?
inb4 overweight
i'm skinny but i have gyno from puberty
inb4 low test
my test was higher than 800 ng/dl last time i tested, please talk some sense in me
Sides might go away if you try again and stick with it.
I tried finasteride for about six weeks last year and had pain in my nipples so I stopped for a couple months.
Got back on it and have had zero sides. I'm coming up on 4 months on the drug.
I started to supplement with 40mg of zinc a day hoping it would maybe help lower estrogen enough to prevent the gyno but I don't know of that is the reason why i'm not experiencing any gyno growth/pain atm.
most i tried it for was a week i think but then i get sides then i stop for 3 days then i take it again thats the last month for me
i get them after a week, not sure if they would've gone away if continued thats why i was asking
i admit it im a bit of hypochondriac but i think the sides are real not sure maybe i made a big deal out of it tho
>i get them after a week, not sure if they would've gone away if continued thats why i was asking
Yeah I went through the same shit when I started taking .25mg like 3x per week but I stopped doing that dumb shit I just take 1mg per day sides are watery cum and occasional nipple sensitivity. Both pluses.
The side effects are from starting and stopping
>would you like fries with that
hope it was worth it bro
>an entire generation of already mentally fucked up zoomies decide to get on DHT blockers
technically you are all trannies
You are a baldcel
Rather be bald than some retarded neurotic gay who slathers foam on his head and knocks back chud meds because he's experiencing twinkdeath (AKA the exact same thing that women go through, wanting to deceptively appear as young and fertile as possible, for as long as possible, by any means necessary)
>Rather be bald
Wrong answer
As opposed to castrating myself?
>As opposed to castrating myself?
What did you think balding meant?
It means to you that you should chemically castrate yourself?
Mentally ill chud
yenbow
Balding is permanent irreversible castration. Fin doesn't affect fertility in 99% of people and the 1% who are affected just go back to normal when they come off. It's not like testosterone which atrophies your balls and makes you sterile.
"hims" shill spotted
buy that shit from india for pennies or don't and go bald I don't care lol
Lol. Not at the doses we're talking about chief.
That sounds more like hypochondria than actual side effects if I’m being perfectly honest with you bro.
>getting memed in to using fin by the retards on this website
god people here fall for the dumbest shit sometimes
cope
nothing is more soi than balding
Closing in on 30 with a full head of long, luscious hair.
Now keep coping with your chud pills LMFAO
>just go bald so I can get all the pussy
No.
Out of my friends and associates, I know maybe 3 with pronounced balding, so that's maybe 5%. We are talking at ages 30 plus or minus a few years. So how come all the balding zoomies in their early 20's are on here? Seems like everyone is on a laundry list of drugs
You have to take fin before you're bald retard
post hairline with a timestamp baldy
>post your face to an angry beehive full of proto-balding terminally online zoomies jacked up on chud meds
kek
I said hairline
post your hairline bro you're not receding are you? you're not trying to convince people to not take finasteride because you want them to go bald like you did am I right?
>30 year old hanging out in a balding thread on IST made by a teenager
Ygmi
Yes, the realization that I now share this board with abject retards is a sad and profound one.
>NOOOO everyone not on my chud pills must be balding, every stranger out there is out to get me
No wonder your hair is falling out with this mindset, has to be stressful
thanks for standing up to the trannies, hairbro. it's those ppl that make hairloss stressful in the first place.
>I don't have this condition
>but I will judge you for trying to treat it
retard. if you're not balding why even come into balding threads? count your blessings and fuck off.
how convenient that you can dismiss any criticism either because the person has no hair ("baldcel!") or because they have hair ("you don't know my paaaaaiin"), gay.
the guy is right. you are a bunch of fucking trannies.
That guy has absolutely no stake in this debate.
>you guys
I've never touched finasteride, fuck off.
I am not saying fin is safe or whatever, I'm saying it's easy to judge when you rolled sixes at birth and have never experienced the creeping sensation of dread that comes with losing your hair in your teens/twenties. Most of the narcissistic gays who act like this would be the first to hop on any chud drug at any sign of balding.
well, then listen to me, a bald cunt that tried this stuff telling you: it can mess you the fuck up and it's not worth the risk.
Another (basically) bald guy here. I tried fin. My balls ached for months until I stopped taking it. No idea what else it may have done, pain isn't generally a sign that everythings okay with your body.
going bald is not worth the risk
>30
Yep, you are definitely balding.
I still sometimes get asked for ID when purchasing alcohol since I started clean shaving every other day and growing my hair out.
>I got sides fro 0.25mg of fin
Stfu retard. Literally go have a nice day
How the fuck do any of you survive? Every thread is doomsday for you stupid fucks.
>don't take fin cause omg the sides think of the SIDES
>don't eat literally ANYTHING cause muh goyslop
>don't take supps cause the garden gnomes will get you
>don't cheat with roids otherwise you're a roidchud gotta be natty, also natty looks like shit
>CICO? ngmi
>KETO? ngmi
>is XYZ natty? they're better than you.
>should I bulk or cut? you should kys.
Have any of you fags even touched a barbell?
Things are much more complex and nuanced, yet intuitive and instinctual, here in the real world.
You sound incredibly slow if you're being genuine.
What kind've retarded nonsense is this? What's intuitive and instinctual about screaming goyslop at everything? What's nuanced about going apeshit anytime fin is mentioned?
Yes, so complex. Thanks, Uncle Iroh.
Goyslop is unhealthy, mass-produced, low quality food.
Beans aren't slop, a plastic-lined can of beans with corn syrup and half a dozen preservatives is.
No one is literally vehemently against finasteride, it is fact that chuds are prescribed it, and it is fact that there are side effects.
Stop acting like a sperg. Get off the internet and live
You need to be 18 to post here.
>Have any of you fags even touched a barbell?
welcome to IST, no ones lift except in /plg/ and /fraud/
Why don't you retards do topical? I just don't understand
Doesn't make a difference
topical reduces scalp DHT (the kind that actually matters) more than oral. oral reduces serum DHT more (which can produced side effects). no reason not to use topical other than price
oral fin does not produce side effects in 99% of people and those who take topical have also experienced the same side effects
is it true u can just crash oral fin and put it in some meme hair product?
>enter thread to shitpost about trannies
>don't know much besides that DHT is an important hormone, and that blocking it is probably not a good idea
>google "finasteride is dangerous"
https://elemental.medium.com/my-life-has-been-ruined-by-an-anti-baldness-propecia-finasteride-side-effects-ed8b2fcd1e90
yeah I'd choose balding if it were me
>google “milk is dangerous”
>everything can have some adverse effect so therefore it's fine if I take meds developed for prostate cancer to block DHT and a bunch of other shit that is important for several mental and physiological processes
Your generation already injects steroids at the age of 16 for TikTok views so I guess this isn't a far stretch either
Does milk have the same incidence of users forming online support groups for severe, lasting side effects among its userbase? Not even close. Even if some e exist somewhere it's bound to be several orders of magnitude in difference.
>https://elemental.medium.com/my-life-has-been-ruined-by-an-anti-baldness-propecia-finasteride-side-effects-ed8b2fcd1e90
lmao similar thing happened to me. started taking the pills at 19 and got gyno and ED. luckily that shit cleared up after some time, but it really ruined my first sexual experiences. stay away from this stuff, youngbros.
Can you take it with test and winstrol or does the fin block the winny from working?
I got reflex hyperandrogenicity from fin and got severe scalp burning. I got desperate and a protocol of basically hrt is the only thing that’s calmed the pain down. I have no idea what I’m going to do now. Listen to your body, don’t push through it if it’s not working. I’ve seen insane recoveries on 100mg ru and minox
Also the scalp pain started as an itch. I’m not trying fear monger honestly, but just be careful. You don’t want to have to take actual chud meds just to reduce the pain like me.
are you fat? If so, make it a priority to lose some. Look into saw palmetto
I was taking fking Saw Palmetto for a week or two and maybe it was kind of working because my backne got a bit clearer and I might have noticed less hair on my limbs (which I've later read is sudden shedding when you start DHT blocking), but I've also noticed I feel different and I had unusual headaches unlike those I've had before. I might be imagining things, but when I remembered that 5AR is necessary for some neurosteroid that helps cognitive function, I gave up. I need my brain to be in top shape because I depend on intelligence much more than I depend on having perfect hair. Sucks, but is what it is.
Now I'm looking for alternative solutions. Has link related ever been properly debunked? What are some things I could do to keep my hair intact in spite of DHT? I'm 25 and not balding, but I have thinner hair on top, especially at the crown.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4174066/
First of all saw palmetto doesn't work for hair loss. Second of all if you want to keep your hair intact in spite of DHT then just buy a toupee because you can't or stop being a pussy and hop on fin.
I shouldn't go bald because my father isn't bald, but who knows what I've inherited from my mother's side. Either way, I'm not messing with my brain just to keep some cosmetic trait. All it's good for is attracting the opposite sex, but being a broke basement dweller already cockblocked me out of having any so I don't think I care anymore. I'm all about finding financial success and happiness now, I just hope I'll keep some youthful good looks and not look like every other middle aged man, but whatever. Mind over matter.
Seen that link? It's interesting.
>All it's good for is attracting the opposite sex, but being a broke basement dweller already cockblocked me out of having any so I don't think I care anymore.
>I'm all about finding financial success and happiness now
Lol at you thinking you can find happiness without relationships and think money will fulfill you.
>I just hope I'll keep some youthful good looks and not look like every other middle aged man, but whatever
If you're not balding then you don't need to hop on fin but hair is the single factor that will make you age the most, excluding extreme shit like drug abuse and massive weight loss.
Also fin only reduces one type of 5AR (that is more hair toxic) by 70% without affecting the non hair toxic type so whatever temporary effects you felt from altering your hormones would have stabilized and you would have adjusted in a week. But also saw palmetto literally does jack shit so you imagined all of it or it gave you some sides that you would not get from fin. Never heard of anyone having a headache ever. Also headaches are pain from the muscles around your head, not a lack of neurosteroids so what you said doesn't make sense at all. Hope that helps.
>Lol at you thinking you can find happiness without relationships and think money will fulfill you.
Uh, yeah? Never seen a happy married couple before, and I'm quite solitary anyway.
>If you're not balding then you don't need to hop on fin but hair is the single factor that will make you age the most, excluding extreme shit like drug abuse and massive weight loss.
I get that, but I would like to research other ways to improve my hair. I've seen some supposed hair loss reversal on YT without fin, but I might just take a microdose if I notice my hair going away in spite of anything.
>Also fin only reduces one type of 5AR (that is more hair toxic) by 70% without affecting the non hair toxic type so whatever temporary effects you felt from altering your hormones would have stabilized and you would have adjusted in a week. But also saw palmetto literally does jack shit so you imagined all of it or it gave you some sides that you would not get from fin.
Fin slightly blocks 5AR3, but mostly 5AR2. Saw palmetto blocks 5AR1 as well and common side effects are headache and other mental issues. Don't know effectis it is or isn't, but wiki says that 1mg of fin is equal to 5600-18000 (in vitro-in vivo) mg of saw palmetto, and I was taking 1080mg (two pills of 540mg) every day on my light 150lb frame. I figured it would do something, which would be enough for my ok hair, but I don't think I want to experiment anymore.
>Also headaches are pain from the muscles around your head, not a lack of neurosteroids so what you said doesn't make sense at all.
Never heard that before. Even if it's true, I don't think headaches are a good sign of anything.
>Don't know effectis
Don't know how effective it is*
>Uh, yeah? Never seen a happy married couple before, and I'm quite solitary anyway
If you've decided to die alone and sexless then your hair doesn't matter. Go crazy.
I still care about my appearance, just not as much. And I like having options, so maybe I will need decent appearance for when I'll be older and looking for casual sex or even marriage. I can't predict what I'll want in the future, all I know is my present.
Your options are fin or shit that doesn't work. Go bald and die, I don't care. Don't reply to my post.
You're probably more likely to go bald even with fin than I am without.
>Don't reply to my post.
Stop me if you can.
>I gave up. I need my brain to be in top shape because I depend on intelligence much more than I depend on having perfect hair. Sucks, but is what it is.
and thats where you just might be wrong
I am balding very slowly.
It's been going for 3 years now. You can now see my scalp in bright light.
I am not going on finasteride. I will get a hair transplant in the front when it completely disappears.
When I get married, I will shave it all off. I don't need it any longer.
What do IST anons think?
Letting yourself go after getting married. This hasn't backfired on anyone before.
I will be rich and successful by then, so I think it's fine.
Your woman will stick around but it doesn't mean she will stay attracted to you. My gf straight up tells me every day in bed how much my thick hair turns her on. If I went bald it would crush her. But maybe your wife has low standards so you'll be fine.
>I am not going on finasteride
>I will get a hair transplant
You will be going on finasteride after the transplant.
>Possible side effects are rare, affecting less than 2% of patients, but can include rash, tenderness around the nipples, decreased libido, testicular pain, erectile dysfunction, poor semen quality, depression, moodiness and palpitations.
>affecting less than 2% of patients
the thing that bothers me about fin shills is that they lie. they constantly throw around this 2% side effect profile number from one study that merk themselves did like 30 years ago when they were trialing the drug for FDA approval.
fwiw anything that changes the consistency of my cum isn't going into my body. full stop m8.
then go bald no one is stopping you
Yeah it sucks that it looks like that's where things are headed but like, you guys are cool with drugs that physically change your fucking cum? I mean, bros....
If you want to have a baby you stop taking it and your cum becomes normal then when your girl is pregnant you just take it again
It's not even just about that, like wtf is wrong with you guys lmfao?
>like wtf is wrong with you guys lmfao?
We are balding and aren't attractive enough not to turn 90% of girls off. Fuck you, we're surviving how we can.
I mean I get it dude, but if you're ugly anyways then what's the fucking point? As sad as it is, just get an ugly gf for companionship and jerk off?
I'm not ugly though. I'm just ugly bald
>If you're worried about women they really dont care that much. There's other stuff that matters a lot more.
My gf cares a lot. Young girls care a lot. It's fine if you're a 30 year old boomer who's balding but I'm still laying chicks in hs I need my fucking hair.
Who the fuck is going to go completely bald on top like that when they are in their youth? That's just unrealistic senpai.
>Who the fuck is going to go completely bald on top like that when they are in their youth?
The guy in the fucking picture dumbass
I'm not Justin fucking Bieber I'm just some guy
>The guy in the fucking picture dumbass
Who is the exception, not the rule, which is the point I'm trying to make. I'm not sure I've ever even seen anything like that IRL.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34714971/
Usually those studies combine it with minox but this one didn't, just looked around for a min didn't dig very deep.
>isnt worth doing unless you are using minoxidil
Rosemary/mint is comparable to a 2% solution. Plus I'd bet microneedling helps keto work.
>Show me a success story
There. The wounds are just superficial unless you do too deep and do it too frequently. It seems very promising.
>Hairloss forums have been trying that retarded shit for 20 years
I really don't think they have, I browsed all those forums pretty heavily 10 years ago when I suspected my hairline was changing.
>Who is the exception, not the rule, which is the point I'm trying to make. I'm not sure I've ever even seen anything like that IRL.
You've never seen someone balding IRL? Are you fucking joking?
Not to the degree where they are fucking chrome dome in their youth man. Actually I have seen it, but that dude was dysgenic anyways so who cares. For most guys it's a long and grueling process. They recede and thin out but it happens in degrees, and they aren't bald until they approach their 50s.
A receding hairline is unattractive as fuck and if you start diffuse thinning or crowning it's even worse. Look if you don't care then fuck you but I care about it.
>A receding hairline is unattractive as fuck
You are coping so hard
I feel bad for you
I don't have his head shape, it looks bad on me.
It's more like this. You think he can't lay chicks in HS with those looks?
>My gf cares a lot. Young girls care a lot.
They really don't. If you're funny, cocky, and know how to tease them and get them horny they won't give a shit. If they're into you they might shittest you about it but if you aren't phased by their shit they will 100% fuck you. This obsession about balding is weird because it assumes that if women can't find any faults in you they they will fuck you and that's not how it works. If they can't find any faults they'll make something up and give you shit about it just to see how you react. How you react to shit tests and interact with women is way more important than what you look like.
Ok don't care about anything you said still want hair
Dont worry you will start taking fin when you hair is beyond repair and you start panicking.
No I won't. I'll just cut it shorter if it gets too thin and ride out the rest of my 30s that way, worst case scenario I'll wear a wig whenever I want to go out and get laid, but even then I'll probably be able to pull off a no guard pretty well. I think I'll be alright though. I'm 34 now and it should slow down/stabilize. I'm gonna get a dermaroller anyhow and use rosemary/mint.
>I'm gonna get a dermaroller anyhow and use rosemary/mint.
XD
I don't get what's so funny about it, that treatment has been compared to oral fin in terms of results and I'd like to do anything I can to preserve my good looks.
Have fun wasting your time poking holes in your head and dumping random oils in the wounds. Lmao
>wasting your time
Dermarolling stimulates bloodflow and triggers stem cell production, which both aid in the growth of hair follicles. Mint stimulates bloodflow also, as does rosemary, with the later inhibiting DHT activity on the scalp. Do you really not know about this shit? Or are you just being a fag rn?
Show me a success story of someone stopping balding progress or regrowing hair on that routine. Oh right you can’t because they dont exist. Hairloss forums have been trying that retarded shit for 20 years and it isnt worth doing unless you are using minoxidil. Good luck fucking up your scalp.
There's nothing wrong with being bald. I'm totally bald and its fine. I dont have to fuck with haircuts or grooming or hair products or anything. The only downside is getting sunburned and a hat (which I would wear anyway) fixes that.
If you're worried about women they really dont care that much. There's other stuff that matters a lot more.
Have fun being bald
What's with all the fin/min/balding shit posted in these past few months? Fuck off moshe.
just hide the thread baldfag, your seethe is reflecting off your shiny scalp
I'm in my 20s with a full head of hair rumao. Love how you garden gnomes cry when your shilling is exposed.
ok? congratulations the drug is not for you
Nice job shifting the argument gay, stop shilling this bullshit everywhere and just fucking lift. Most of the stress from worrying about balding just makes it worse anyways.
My condolences fren, don't let all the pharma shilling get to you.
>stop shilling this bullshit everywhere and just fucking lift
stop seething and lift
stop replying to my post and lift
stop jerking your cock and lift
don't reply to my post or I know you're not lifting.
Your writhing is hilarious shlomo.
>don't reply to my post or I know you're not lifting.
Do something about it.
>I'm in my 20s with a full head of hair
I also head full head of hair in my 20s. Then suddenly i went straight to the bald city out of nowhere.
9 years on fin.
Fit
Had sides the first weeks, psycological, after some weeks more, everything gone.
I have a head full of hair, thic and long, so long it can scratch my butt.
Go back and stick to it for a year.
I can't imagine giving a shit about hair.
Why would you voluntarily be a fat piece of shit?
What does that have to do with hair?
>tfw i just got my essential oils and scalp massager in the mail to regrow all my hair while fin trannies cope with their tiny balls
you already have gyno so just go to surgery. try fin topically. take melatonin for insomnia. or just shave and get a hairsystem.