Do I need rows?

Or can I just do heavy Romanian deadlifts and chin ups for back? Adding rows means I can only do chin ups 1-2 times per week as opposed to 2-3 times per week and the thing is I really love chin ups.

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    romanian deadlifts are for the posterior chain, they will not grow your back if you do them right. You could just do chin ups probably but I don't see what's preventing you from doing both unless you don't take adequate rest, in which case you might as well do anything since youtre fucking your gains anyway

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      RDLs aren't really a back exercise, they work the posterior chain but they're mostly for hamstrings and glutes. Chin-ups are good but chin-ups or pull-ups combined with bent-over row are better.
      >Do I need rows?
      No, but they'll help build your back.

      Why do I always get crazy DOMs in my upper back after doing RDLs if they don't work your back? This is in addition to my hams and glutes and my PT friend said I have good form.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        probably because you're doing it wrong.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          because youre doing them wrong or lifting too heavy to do them right

          PT friend disagrees. I've never injured myself once or had pain either. Are you guys just lifting too light? Your back acts as a support hold for the barbell. It's mechanically impossible for your back not to get worked.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            the motion of an RDL is hip extension, which uses hamstrings and glutes.
            https://www.physio-pedia.com/Hip_Extensors

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If it's holding it would be isometric work which doesn't cause hypertrophy (in any meaningful way). Also the load would be less than optimal because the failure point happens on the hip first, leaving the back far from failure

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >If it's holding it would be isometric work which doesn't cause hypertrophy (in any meaningful way)
              So farmer's carries and dead hangs are useless for forearm growth? And S/B/D are useless for abs?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not useless but far from optimal. If isometrics are enough why are you squatting? Just hold yourself in the lower position, 0 rep gang

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Just hold yourself in the lower position, 0 rep gang
                Thats actually a very good way to train back and abs. Try to hold 180kg front squats in bottom position and then tell me you dont have upper back doms for week.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe your upper back is just weak and your lowerback, hamstrings, and glutes are strong from low bar squats, normal deadlifts, etc.
            Way I look at it is the RDL is taxing the weak link, which is good.

            https://i.imgur.com/EoXFsAj.jpg

            Or can I just do heavy Romanian deadlifts and chin ups for back? Adding rows means I can only do chin ups 1-2 times per week as opposed to 2-3 times per week and the thing is I really love chin ups.

            You don't need to but you should do rows. Maybe add in some chest supported rows or other exercises that are less taxing that will allow you to still do chin-ups more frequently.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          because youre doing them wrong or lifting too heavy to do them right

          holy fuck you DYEL moron morons stop giving advice

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        because youre doing them wrong or lifting too heavy to do them right

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      RDLs aren't really a back exercise, they work the posterior chain but they're mostly for hamstrings and glutes. Chin-ups are good but chin-ups or pull-ups combined with bent-over row are better.
      >Do I need rows?
      No, but they'll help build your back.

      probably because you're doing it wrong.

      because youre doing them wrong or lifting too heavy to do them right

      https://i.imgur.com/W58EY4m.png

      the motion of an RDL is hip extension, which uses hamstrings and glutes.
      https://www.physio-pedia.com/Hip_Extensors

      Fucking idiots

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    RDLs aren't really a back exercise, they work the posterior chain but they're mostly for hamstrings and glutes. Chin-ups are good but chin-ups or pull-ups combined with bent-over row are better.
    >Do I need rows?
    No, but they'll help build your back.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to get soreness in my lower back from RDL but then found out I was doing them wrong, and not activating my hamstrings. Youre likely pulling up with your lower back in contraction, you should instead focus on throwing your ass backwards on the eccentric and then thrusting forward.

    Repeat you should not be feeling major lower back pain from an RDL.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no you dont have to do rows you can do your chin ups 3 times per week instead. You can also change it up and focus on one thing for a while and then change.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    roman deadlifts do work lower back, its not that different from a normal deadlift that it would not
    https://barbend.com/romanian-deadlift/

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dl doesnt train back
    Then explain this morons.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm cumming to this tonight

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're not the first and most likely not the last person who told me that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          joke's on you. dubs and you die tomorrow

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you get to live

          joke's on you. dubs and you die tomorrow

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