Do I really have to starve myself to lose weight? It feels like it takes forever at a 500cal deficit.
My TDEE is 2000 and I'm eating 1500 a day.
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Do I really have to starve myself to lose weight? It feels like it takes forever at a 500cal deficit.
>TDEE is 2000
how do you know this?
I calculated it
Using an online "calculator"?
How am I supposed to calculate it then?
how much do you weigh?
139lbs or 63kg
multiply the weight in pounds by 15 and subtract 25-30%. That's your diet calories to start.
0.7(140x15) = 1470.
it was close. what is your diet like?
I try to eat almost the same things everyday so it's easier to track calories and macros, it goes like this:
1-2 cups of milk when I wake up
Go to gym
Get back from gym, 2-3 boiled eggs
Skip lunch
Last meal (dinner) is like 200g of rice with 200g of chicken
not enough protein or fibre. space your meals out more throughout the day. substitute some of that rice for beans. eating wheat would be better but it's not the biggest deal. can you get whey protein?
>1 or 2 cups
So some days 100% more calories than others
>2 or 3 eggs
30% discrepancy depending on how you feel
Hardly a fine science anon.
That said if you are not seeing results wtf are you doing, 63kg is miniscule, the difference of even 500g per week should be very noticeable
>no age
>no sex
>no lean mass%
yeah, pretty much accurate, homosexual
Bro unless your fricking sub five foot it not likely you have that much fat to lose. How tall are you?
stick to your calories, maybe try hiit instead of LISS, you will be down in a few weeks/couple of months.
like
said, high volume, low calories foods - this is nerdspeak for eat some damn vegetables - will make a significant difference to hunger. my dinner this evening was an absolutely fricking enormous bowl of curry, and it was only about 600 calories because it was a mix of lentils, chopped vegetables, spices, and tofu(i.e for most people, read “chicken/turkey”). same principle applies to every meal the difference between a small unappetising bowl of oatmeal and a large tasty, varied breakfast is half an apple, some cinnamon, and a tea spoon of chia seeds or whatever. figure out the easiest and most effective ways for you to *enjoy* fruit and veg and you will never need to have a meal that’s too small even on a calorie deficit.
I'm 5'6 and lift 5x a week, I also started doing cardio everyday to make the process faster
kek you are at a more severe deficit than you think
thats total bs
calculate TDEE only with an expert and do all the exams, the online calculator is a bullshit given to idiots.
Back to the question, yes, you need to eat way less than you think
I don't have money to pay for a coach to calculate for my TDEE
I could buy whey protein but I despise beans, I love potatoes would that be better?
>I don't have money to pay for a coach to calculate for my TDEE
just eat less than you normaly do, see what happens, adjust again
>potatoes
yeah. just make sure to weigh your taters and be mindful of your added fat.
>fibre
I would supplement with either psyllium or metamucil if you aren't going to drink the unprocessed stuff. drink 2tbs with your last meal.
>whey
1 scoop and 250ml skim milk 250ml juice of your choice (pineapple juice and vanilla whey is absolutely delicious) plus either a piece of fruit or a homemade muffin. customize this suggestion how you like.
basically just space out your meals and eat more protein. I am 175 6'3 and can eat about 1500 cal per day no problem.
I calculated mine following the rules in the fat loss general and got 2050. This is ignoring all exercise (I work out 6x a week). I eat 1,000-1,500 calories a day (on cheat day I probably eat like 2-2.5k) and this has me still at 2lbs a week. It's fine to use a calculator but if it's not working just cut more until it starts working. I overestimate all the calories I eat and underestimate all of the calories that I burn and doing this is working out fine for me. When I plateaued I just cut my intake more. Just track everything and make methodical progress.
Empirical testing. Eat normally and track your calories to an autistic degree every day for two months. Weight yourself every morning right when you wake up during that two months. Track your weight as the rolling average of the previous two weeks. At the end of the two months you'll know if you were eating at maintenance, surplus, or deficit based on your weight changes and the 1lb ~ 3500 calories formula. Once you have your TDEE, tweak the calories you eat in the direction you want to go. Continue weighing yourself and counting calories, as you TDEE can change over time due to weight change and hormones. Yes, it's a lot of work, and yes this could take months or even years, but it's the non-meme way to gain and lose weight, and it works. Furthermore, the discipline it teaches you makes it second nature. You always hear stories of people that lose weight fast then gain it all back. By learning to do things the slow, consistent, correct way, once you lose the weight you keep it off. I lose 75lbs four years ago and have kept it off by continuing to track my weight and calories and tweaking as needed.
The craziest thing about this whole Pokimane no makeup thing is that she relatively doesn’t even look that bad compared to the difference most other women have between makeup/no makeup. Some girls use makeup to successfully cover up cystic acne and warts and blemishes. They look like different people without makeup. So if Pokimane is bad, there should be so much more outrage for all the other cases.
a bunch of 12 year olds who have never seen a woman without makeup had their minds blown
Craziest part is they’re two completely different angles and lighting also. There’s hardly even a basis of comparison. Right is shit lighting and angle ontop of no makeup completely cherry picked image the only way to compare would be to have a pic in makeup but with the same unflattering conditions
What are you even talking about, she looks fricking terrible without
All women do. You kmow that 90% of men are ugly thing? That shit applies to woman too. It's just they learn to paint a mask on over themselves at the age of 12 so you never know. Not unless or until you have one living with you
Thank you. She looks like some washed out wine aunt blinking in the sunlight after she staggers out of 2 months of rehab. "Natural beauty" my fricking ass.
Yeah because of the harsh daylight fricking up an indoor shot.
She'd look fine in person with decent lighting. The daylight glare makes her skin look bad.
>The craziest thing about this whole Pokimane
I feel sorry for you that you know who these people are.
This. If you think right looks bad for a woman without makeup, you are a confirmed virgin
why are you surprised? most chronically online men are virgins who only know women through IG filters and porn.
>he says as he posts on IST
2 IQ post
Looks better on right
It's a psychological thing. The right projects an imagine of a casual atmosphere and natural sincerity about what's being presented. The left just screams 'narcissistic ego-driven attention prostitute' making it immediately less attractive to men looking for more than a hole. In the game of frick/marry/kill, the left would be the frick, and the right would be the marry.
So are you saying my wife shouldn’t wear makeup on our wedding day
Yes. 1500 calories isn't starving either. You should walk more too
I'm doing 30 minutes of LISS everyday, 1500 is fine for me to eat but it is taking too long
Slow and steady wins the race.
>still an incel
What a waste of effort. May as well stay fat
Incel?
st filthyfrankcel
Use high volume low calorie foods and also drink a lot of water. Both of these will keep you very full with little calories. You shouldn't be feeling hungry on a cut. If you are, then you need to take a look at what you're eating/drinking and make adjustments to give you more volume.
>You shouldn't be feeling hungry on a cut.
Not true. It should be expected to feel some hunger on a cut. And that is fine.
my tdee is 1100, you will never understand true starvation like i have until you eat 400 calories for a week and only lose .35kg
>my tdee is 1100
I call horseshit
Are you a 4'7" women who weighs 70lbs and don't exercise?
my bmr is 1100*** my tdee is more like 1300. point is it’s extremely low and i’ll kill to eat 1500 and still lose weight
43kg, 162.5cm
just don’t get skinnyfat, this could ruin ur metabolism btw
> 43kg
> 163cm
It's over anon. Move to Asia and marry a Filipina. I pray you have a big dick.
>girl
i feel like i’m winning for as long as i can maintain this
Are you a boy or a girl, anon?
My TDEE is like 700. It's difficult to know for sure because those calculators don't account for things like "missing 1 full leg, and 1/2 of the other" and the sedentary category probably doesn't account for being in a wheelchair and literally never walking. But after 7 years of experimenting, it's pretty close to 700.
If I'm doing more vigorous workouts, I can feel when my intake is not enough. My muscles get sore. Not like that good post-workout sore, but a kind of "this didn't happen during last week's workout" sore. Where I can feel my body isn't getting the sustenance it needs to support the muscles that need it to get stronger. It's hard to explain. But that feeling is the best indicator I have of what my actual TDEE is.
Hi Ricky Berwick what’s up man
Height?
I’m just giving up on eating personally. I just did a 2 day fast and broke with a grapefruit and protein powder in water, I got a 4 lbs of cauliflower to use up so that will be my food til thursday then I will be protein powder only until I start to die idk then I will just eat a steak and continue on.
I want to frick the girl in the OP picture
>Do I really have to starve myself to lose weight?
Yes. There is simply no way around it. You should think of it as a lifestyle change, not a diet. Find a shift in your eating habits that you can be comfortable with forever, or you're just going to end up gaining the weight back. Sacrifices will have to be made. No self-improvement comes without sacrifice.
For example, I cut out any drinks that use sugar, and that alone was worth like -400 calories/day. But wasn't that big of a deal. Water, crystal light, sugar-free coffee creamer, diet soda, whatever. It only takes a few weeks to adapt to it. But the longterm effect of -400 calories a day is no fricking joke.
So I'm a 5'5 136 lb woman and I went to have my BMR tested. It turns out the online calculators were right. My TDEE on a day I worked out was 2100, on a sedentary day was 1800. I spent the money so you don't have to.
My second thing is, if you're cutting at 500 cals, I guess 'technically' you'll lose weight eventually but what you need to be doing is cardio. I was losing weight excruciatingly slow with calisthenics bc I'd only be burning 150-200 calories. Id only be burning like 250 maybe with HIIT yoga. But when I started doing that intense cycling like peleton or cyclebar, now I'm burning 350-400 and I'm losing weight rapidly. And my shape is changing. I'm like super recomping.
So high cardio like running or cycling *if you can handle it*. It may be too much if you're not used to starving AND doing heavy cardio. If you can't handle it, add 100 calories and keep going. MAKE SURE TO EAT CARBS BEFORE YOU DO THE CARDIO or you'll die. Kbye.
Thank you. I usually do max incline 15% treadmill at 4mph which burns around 200 calories at 30 minutes or 400-450 in 1 hour, I can't stand cycling or doing stationary bike.
How much weight have you lost so far, femanon?
I'm doing a lot of recomp but about 30 lbs in 3 years. But I keep getting leaner and leaner. So even though my weight is a certain number my measurements change. I look positively ripped right now. If you can afford it, join that cyclebar class shit. If not, join running group. Doing cardio alone in a gym is horrible lol
>woman
Stopped reading there. This is a MALE safe space and you aren't welcome here madam.
anyone subbing to these mid prostitutes tier subs should be printed publicly in a list with full ssn,name and publicly shamed,executed by 2shots in the back of the head
No anon, bullets cost money.
Old fashioned stoning is the way to go.
Can someone explain what's weird about the no makeup photo?
>TDEE
Never going to make it to 12% with baseless bioscience and a shit attitude
If you have kilos and kilos to lose, you can afford to roll 1000 deficits. If you only have 2 or 3 to lose, 500 a day is plenty fast. You are a fat shit who needs to either develop a better work ethic or some patience.
Just fast. Caloric deficit is shit and causes problems. Fasting fixes problems.
Fastgays are so tiresome.
Not eating for a long time is the only thing special about you and you will NOT shut the frick up about it.
Forgive me for actually trying to lose weight and not just wasting time
And I'm sure you're basing this on all the social interactions you have with people irl, right anon? Surely not on single sentences posted by anonymous strangers you have absolutely zero knowledge about.
>lose all your muscle mass
great suggestion
i tried to fast for 2 days, lost like 2kgs on it then binged all it back because i was so hungry on day 3
fasting does not work
That's because you have to learn how to properly break a fast. You need something light but filling to satisfy you.
I'll pull 24-hour fasts from the evening of Saturday to the evening of Sunday. I break the fast with yogurt and cheese, then start eating regularly the next day.
>Fastgays are so tiresome.
Fasting is great, but it's not the silver bullet many fastgays present it as. You need to eat moderately most non-fast days.
I believe the binge phenomenon can be avoided by abstaining from carbs until hormones regulate (you'll know because satiety will return and stabilize) after a fast.
The binge phenomenon lmao why do you people have no control over your actions
What works for me is only breaking fasts at dinner time, so I don't spend the entire day running around eating shit like a maniac. I eat a pretty sizeable dinner, then a few hours later I'm in bed. I might eat a bit more with dinner itself, but as long as it's normal, home cooked food there's no way on Earth I can undo the fast in a single sitting. That alongside some psyllium husk + water to feel more "full" and you can get away with it pretty easily. Basically, don't break a fast in the morning because you will spend the entire day stalking the kitchen like a raptor.
>caloric deficit is shit
>even larger caloric deficit is good
losing weight is a marathon, not a sprint. it's not about starving, it's about adapting a healthy lifestyle and then subtracting a few calories in order to be at a deficit.
who's the seamen deamen on the right
Gross. No wonder females are depressed when they see what men want and what they actually look like. Lol.
how many months have you been doing it for? you're not gonna notice a 500 deficit over a week
Close to 2 months now, I was 69kg and quickly dropped 4kg in 2 weeks but I believe most of it was water weight, then I went from 65 to 63 in the past month then I got stuck on it, fasting for 2 days brought me to almost 61 but I binged it back
nah just do more LISS cardio
No you just cut all carbs and sugars.
You can complain about ketoschizos as much as you want, but you will lose weight.
Unless you are dead, you haven't starved yourself. If you're not losing weight, you need to eat less than what you're eating now. It's very, VERY, simple. In fact, it could not possibly be simpler.
If you lose it faster than 1lb a week, you'll probably just gain it back after you stop. You aren't special, you won't beat the statistics, and you need that long time it takes to lose the weight to adjust to the lifestyle it takes to keep it off.
She look better without nice pale skin not that fake shit
Yes fasting is an efficient way to lose weight and repair the body.