Yea bro apply the cancer chemical to your biggest organ so you can stay in the scorching summer sun all day and slowly cook your skin over the course of your life.
Don't forget the monoi/coconut oil so you have an even frying surface.
thats from sun not fruit and honey
also I think he eats too much meat in proportion to carbs so he prob has high cortisol
unironically hed look better with MORE sugar and a little more body fat
he still looks good tho and Im sure hes healthier than any other nutrition grifter
>5+ years older >I-i-it's meat and honey!!1!1
ITT: zoomer retards that don't understand the effects aging.
thats from sun not fruit and honey
also I think he eats too much meat in proportion to carbs so he prob has high cortisol
unironically hed look better with MORE sugar and a little more body fat
he still looks good tho and Im sure hes healthier than any other nutrition grifter
You mean don't fall for the 400g carbs per day meme. Meat has been eaten for millions of years, it's the healthiest food that exists.
The carnivore diet gets you bald like your idol sv3rige you retards. You get too much cysteine, tryptophan and methionine so you are growthmaxing (ie cancermaxxing). You get too much iron and probably all around metals so your hairs get white.
It's called OPSAD: one pound of sugar (honey and fruit) a day
>paul salad is borderline exclusive carnivore from 2018 to 2022 >it's the sugar
absolute retards
>Eating a literal pound of fruit and honey every day is being "borderline exclusive" carnivore
Fucking kek. You aren't even a tad ashamed of your obvious retardation, are you?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>paul salad is borderline exclusive carnivore from 2018 to 2022
Not a carnivore dieter, he slathers honey on all his meat and fruitmaxxes, what he cut out was veggies, grains, and dairy.
>176g of protein >247g of carbs >230g of fat >"it's the carbs!1!!!!!1!1!1!"
this is you brain on ketones
HEHE NOOTRIENTS already had that hairline when he was vegan, the dude started balding in high school
Yeah, and his carnivore diet didn't reverse shit even though it's "the best diet on earth" according to him, very convincing.
Goatis went bald when he was a mentally ill vegan. Eating meat cured his mental illness and anxiety but he took things to a retarded extreme for the youtube views.
How do we know saladino didn't get vitamin A poisoning from eating too much liver as a carnie?
>eating meat cured his mental illness
Guy is fucked in the brain regardless of the diet, I watch him for entertainment.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And adding on this paul salad has been shifting more towards carbs, it was an even worse macro breakdown before
>paul salad is borderline exclusive carnivore from 2018 to 2022
Not a carnivore dieter, he slathers honey on all his meat and fruitmaxxes, what he cut out was veggies, grains, and dairy.
Goatis went bald when he was a mentally ill vegan. Eating meat cured his mental illness and anxiety but he took things to a retarded extreme for the youtube views.
How do we know saladino didn't get vitamin A poisoning from eating too much liver as a carnie?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Im pretty sure his ageing is just from baking out in the sun all day as a white guy. Tanning is good for your health, but it can make your skin look leathery and older.
He really does look fine, and totally healthy. If he were doing a vegan diet he would look significantly worse.
>The carnivore diet gets you bald like your idol sv3rige you retards. You get too much cysteine, tryptophan and methionine so you are growthmaxing (ie cancermaxxing). You get too much iron and probably all around metals so your hairs get white.
I don’t know if it applicable in this situation but this is true. This board is a collection of some the most miserable, cynical, cock sucking losers on the internet.
Yeah, he's got cooked skin and grey hairs from being le ketolard carnitard! Couldn't ever be age or too much sun...
Please fucking die already, Moxyte.
Why not both? Why does it have to be either one thing or another? Fructose is 10x more damaging to cells than glucose. And no, a1c tests are not sensitive to fructation as they are glycation.
where tf does this meme come from? fructose is superior to glucose bc it doesnt cause nearly much of an insulin spike and it raises the metabolic rate
in the cell, fructose is processed exactly the same way as glucose it just skips the first couple steps of glycolysis
glucose gets converted into fructose anyway when it goes through glycolysis
there is no mechanism by which fructose is harmful
His blood numbers are genuinely fucked. Luckily he is active and slim but eventually he'll have a cardiac episode
only his cholesterol and ldl really
and high total cholesterol alone is not really bad in itself especially if youre middle aged, its normal for cholesterol to rise as you get older
also just as test ranges have been lowered to a preposterous degree over the decades, so has cholesterol (largely in order to sell statins)
the mean for men of all ages in 1960 was 220mg/dL and dropped to 203 by 2000
mind you 203 is still considered above the modern "reference range" which considers 199 to be the upper end, which like I said, is insane https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/articlepdf/201671/joc50099.pdf
sneed oils lower cholesterol and ldl while raising risk of cardiovascular disease dramatically
you actually want "high" (by todays fraudulent standards) cholesterol and ldl, saladino is fine basically
youre joking right?
I thought we were all on board at this point that PUFA is the worst thing you can possibly consume but in case you seriously think its good, heres some studies (the youtube and twitter links are summaries of the studies theyre paired with for those of you who are lazy fucks)
also read peats articles on the matter if you want more of a biochemical/endocrinological background raypeat.com/articles
minnesota coronary experiment is potentially the most rigorous nutrition experiment ever conducted and proved beyond a doubt that saturated fats lower coronary events vs unsaturated/polyunsaturated:
>meat is unhealthy due to saturated fat
Prove it. You can't
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lee Hooper 2020 and all the litarature that shows that meat increases ldl and apob
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the post youre replying to is arguing that saturated fat is good you illiterate cretin
Lee Hooper 2020 and all the litarature that shows that meat increases ldl and apob
ldl is supposed to be high relative to hdl, you only see suppressed ldl these days bc peoples diets are so full of PUFA
in the past before PUFA was in everything total cholesterol and ldl used to be way higher than it is now
see:
where tf does this meme come from? fructose is superior to glucose bc it doesnt cause nearly much of an insulin spike and it raises the metabolic rate
in the cell, fructose is processed exactly the same way as glucose it just skips the first couple steps of glycolysis
glucose gets converted into fructose anyway when it goes through glycolysis
there is no mechanism by which fructose is harmful
[...]
only his cholesterol and ldl really
and high total cholesterol alone is not really bad in itself especially if youre middle aged, its normal for cholesterol to rise as you get older
also just as test ranges have been lowered to a preposterous degree over the decades, so has cholesterol (largely in order to sell statins)
the mean for men of all ages in 1960 was 220mg/dL and dropped to 203 by 2000
mind you 203 is still considered above the modern "reference range" which considers 199 to be the upper end, which like I said, is insane https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/articlepdf/201671/joc50099.pdf
sneed oils lower cholesterol and ldl while raising risk of cardiovascular disease dramatically
you actually want "high" (by todays fraudulent standards) cholesterol and ldl, saladino is fine basically
>All the meat you eat today was specifically bred by humans too so you are not saying anything
What bullshit argument is that? What matters is what we actually ate, and that we should eat as close to that as we can now.
[...] >there is no mechanism by which fructose is harmful
Of course there is and it's called glycation.
most glycation is caused/catalysed by lipid peroxidation, ie PUFA
it also usually happens bc there is a lack of CO2 in the cell protecting the free amino groups on proteins (CO2 binds to amino groups on proteins forming protective carbamino groups), which leaves them susceptable to attack
a lack of CO2 is caused by impaired OXPHOS metabolism
more sugar being metabolised means more CO2 means less glycation
ie restricting sugar will increase glycation by interfering with metabolism and introducing more proteins susceptable to glycation and PUFA (even if you try to restrict PUFA, more overall fat consumption means more PUFA)
Can you explain what Ray Peat is advocating for on his website? It seems like schizobabble to me and I'm somewhat versed in this. Starch bad or sugar good?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Disordered eating
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
sugar good
starch is sugar
sucrose is slightly better than starch, but starch is also okay if your gut can handle it
saladinos meat and fruit diet is basically ripped off from peat, except saladino is a grifter so he will never admit that the sugar in honey and fruits is the same as table sugar and that starch is also just pure glucose
also peat advocates seafood, especially shellfish, which Ive never seen saladino eat
>minnesota coronary experiment is potentially the most rigorous nutrition experiment
No is not lmao, the minnesota experiment was a trash failed study that had high attrition rate which means the study had no statistical power, it was also confounded by transfats and it only had a follow up of 12 months, is no wonder the authors didn't wanted the study published due to how utterly trash it was
Oh that retard joseph everett, that video was already thoroughly debunked in this video
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28864332/
PURE is a trash study that compared countries with high poverty with rich countries, you are clueless
Here's two bigger meta analysis on the subject with over 1 million people each
"Diets high in saturated fat were associated with higher mortality from all-causes, CVD, and cancer, whereas diets high in polyunsaturated fat were associated with lower mortality from all-causes, CVD, and cancer."
"SFA was associated with higher all-cause mortality in NHANES and with CHD mortality in our meta-analysis"
https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(20)30355-1/fulltext
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32307197/
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Follow the science you gay ketos! >you mean this science?! >NOOO NOT LIKE THIS, I mean THIS science study that supports MY view point, all other science studies that don't, don't count.
Post body, thats all that needs to be said. You can yammer about your religion all you want but at the end of the day, reality doesnt care about your feelings or delusions and will inevitably remind you where you are. >inb4 starts posting bunch of images of other people to cope
>and high total cholesterol alone is not really bad in itself especially if youre middle aged, its normal for cholesterol to rise as you get older"
Yeah no this is bullshit, the diet he's trying to "copy" from, the hadza diet the people there have way lower cholesterol numbers, hunter gatherers generally have much lower cholesterol than modern humans in standing civilizations
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109704007168?via%3Dihub
The optimal LDL cholesterol is below 70, anything above that and there's evidence of formation of atherosclerotic plaques. Quit looking at averages when the average person is in fact unhealthy, like the actual insane mental gymnastics for you to say high cholesterol is good when the average american with high cholesterol gets heart attacks(#1 killer next to cancer) and needs to be on statins lmao
they're not dying from heart attacks cringelord, also if you're the exact guy I just replied to how you gonna say that when onions paladino is trying to emulate them? all these carnivore/keto/paleo retards are trying to appeal to hunter gatherers in the first place on what a healthy and "manly" diet is, though they're not actually following the exact diet they just shill for being gay for eating as much domesticated factory farm meat as possible
You are assuming elevated cholesterol is causal instead of a symptom of underlying chronic illness.
it is, seen it with my own blood tests. when I tried keto years back my cholesterol levels skyrocketed and for the first time I got chest pain, a common symptom that people get from high cholesterol. so what a surprise when i stopped keto and eating as much meat, my cholesterol levels went back down and I stopped getting this chest pain. I wasn't even fat btw, that's the crazy part, i was 18 bmi at this point in time and was a lot weaker than I am now. these heavy meat eating diets are a scam and they can only temporarily work on the most obese people trying to lose weight, where they falsely attribute better health from just losing weight to their diet
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
cholesterol in itself is actually protective, this has been agreed upon for decades, it's when they're oxidized that they're harmful. and high cholesterol is a thyroid problem, no shit your cholesterol jacked up during keto, you need carbs to activate your thyroid
>no wonder hunter gatherers die early
This is probably the dumbest post ITT.
Imagine being such an NPC that you can't even fathom a reason why HUNTER-gatherers would die during adulthood. Hmm maybe from the HUNTING?? Maybe from getting GASHED OPEN from animals with CLAWS and TEETH?
The hunter-gatherers you're talking about have no heart disease and plenty of elders, by the way.
Yes, high cholesterol is a symptom of eating foods with cholesterol. What kind of pseudo intellectual comment is that
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Yes, high cholesterol is a symptom of eating foods with cholesterol. What kind of pseudo intellectual comment is that
Blaming cholesterol for heart disease is like blaming firemen for fires because they are always there when fires occur.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>high cholesterol is a symptom of eating foods with cholesterol
This is a fringe conspiracy theory. Even Harvard says this is wrong lol.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol/ >The biggest influence on blood cholesterol level is the mix of fats and carbohydrates in your diet—not the amount of cholesterol you eat from food.
Of course this is a retarded statement from Harvard, but I'm just showing how outdated/fringe this "dietary cholesterol impacts blood cholesterol" meme is.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Of course this is a retarded statement from Harvard, but I'm just showing how outdated/fringe this "dietary cholesterol impacts blood cholesterol" meme is.
It's not retarded. Macro mixing leads to chronic elevated blood sugar and inflammation that will cause glycation damage to the cardiovascular system, requiring cholesterol to repair damaged cells.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wow your post is full of complicated words I am 100% sure you don't understand at all. Everything you are describing is caused by "high blood sugar" which is caused by overeating and being inactive. You don't have to "mix macros" to achieve this, you just have to eat like shit.
If you eat a meal of fatty steak with a baked potato and butter, you are obviously mixing macros. But that meal is not going to cause you to have a high blood sugar or "glycation damage" (lmao you don't even know what this means).
If you eat a meal of goyslop with refined seed oils and wash it down with some shitty HFCS soda, you are again, obviously mixing macros, but that's (obviously) not your primary problem. The problem is you are eating like shit. Combine this with being sedentary and you have the diet and lifestyle of the average American with diabetes.
The problem isn't "mixing macros" you pseudointellectual retard. And that's what makes the Harvard statement retarded. They imply that eating a macro-balanced diet is unhealthy when the much more obvious problem is the massive amounts of refined sugars and seed oils people are eating. But they can't say the latter, so they obfuscate the truth with science mumbo-jumbo that retards like you repeat with no understanding of biochemistry or physiology.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's called the Randle cycle. Fat and sugar cross-inhibit one another from access to cells. The reason this happens is because idle glucose will damage cells, so glucose, in a cell replete with fat, will be locked out no matter how insulin is in the bloodstream. This is what causes elevated blood sugar, aka diabetes. This only occurs at surplus btw, but any time you eat at a surplus this way, you further the diabetic negative feedback loop. HFCS, and PUFAs escalate the issue, but the underlying driver is mixing fat and carbs in the diet, which is why both keto, and low-fat (chicken breast and rice/vegan) diets are effective weight loss strategies. They deactivate Randle activation and reverse diabetes.
"Overeating" as you said starts off as gluttony but soon becomes ravenous hunger due to metabolic syndrome. The syndrome needs to be addressed instead of simply restricting calories using CICO principles.
It's not like this metabolic mechanism is not without purpose. It allows infants to gain weight and allows humans to do the same in summer in preparation for winter. But chronically activating the Randle cycle is what causes all these metabolic issues.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>blah blah blah made-up nonsense with no bearing on reality
I don't really care about your niche boogeyman biochemistry pathway. You are overcomplicating something very simple.
When I eat fatty steak cooked in tallow and then eat fruits or honey for dessert, I don't gain fat. If I were to eat microwave meals and soda (and overeat because those foods aren't satiating) I would gain fat. Simple as.
For anyone else interested or scared of this subject, there's this video I watched and forgot all the details about. You can watch it, too, anon, but I have a feeling you won't:
>metabolic syndrome
Do you even know what this is? You don't get metabolic syndrome by having mixed macro meals, idiot. >Fat and sugar cross-inhibit one another from access to cells.
You're use of "cross-inhibit" instead of the scientific word "competing" shows you have no idea what you're talking about. >The reason this happens is because idle glucose will damage cell
This is a nonsequitur. Also, you only get massive glucose spikes with low-quality shitty foods. >This is what causes elevated blood sugar, aka diabetes.
No, that's not at all what causes diabetes. Diabetes is caused by chronic elevated blood glucose, which is caused by shitty eating and a sedentary lifestyle (I already discussed this).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>and then eat fruits or honey for dessert,
but... whyyyyyyy
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because it's delicious and honey is based (the Bible says so). I also exercise daily, unlike you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>muh bible >muh taste
so you do it for your sensory enjoyment, and not for any biological need, got it.
Bears eat thousands of berries every day, and also bears obviously love honey.
bears hybenate over the winter with no food, do you do that?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Diabetes is caused by chronic elevated blood glucose,
Which is the Randle Cycle preventing sugar access to the cells.
As I said: >This only occurs at surplus btw, but any time you eat at a surplus this way, you further the diabetic negative feedback loop.
Saladino compensates for his carb intake with ridiculous levels of physical activity. Fructose is processed differently than other sugars, but just because he is not becoming diabetic, doesn't mean all the fructose is not fucking him up in other ways.
Virgin Liver Queen Saladino vs Chad giga-autist Bart Kay. Saladino loses every time.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>400g of carbs per day >carnivore
HAHHAHAH
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bears eat thousands of berries every day, and also bears obviously love honey.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Humans are bears
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>prevents
No, it doesn't. You don't know basic biochemistry. Competing =/= preventing. You would know this if you ever took a biochemistry course or actually studied it instead of guessing randomly. This has massive implications.
>Saladino compensates for caloric intake by exercising
lol, lmao even
>handsome muscular man vs skinny bald weakling who sits in a gaming chair
Hm I wonder who is correct on the topic of health and nutrition?
>Fructose is processed differently than other sugars
Please show me one source that fructose (in food) is "processed differently" than any other sugar. You can't because you're basing your nonsense off of studies on isolated fructose taken out of a food matrix because you don't know wtf you're talking about.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>out of a food matrix
Muh matrix cope. It's all the same shit
>Please show me one source that fructose (in food) is "processed differently" than any other sugar.
Are you saying fructose isn't processed by the liver? That it doesn't spike insulin the same way sucrose does? I really hope your liver can keep up.
>Competing =/= preventing. You would know this if you ever took a biochemistry course or actually studied it instead of guessing randomly.
Nice vocab sperging. It is irrelevant though.
>Hm I wonder who is correct on the topic of health and nutrition?
Saladboi's field of specialty is psychiatry. Keep eating your sugar and liver, though. I am sure you have it all figures out.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That it doesn't spike insulin the same way sucrose does?
yes, if anything pure fructose wouldn't spike your insulin as much as sucrose
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Please show me one source that fructose (in food) is "processed differently" than any other sugar.
holy shit this dude actually doesn't know how fructose is metabolized, he thinks the cells of the body just uptake and use fructose like they do with glucose HAHAHHA
this is basic biology and he doesn't know it
what vitamins and minerals in fucking honey?
Why does he need fructose? Does he not have modern food storage and needs to pack on body fat for winter?
Why glucose, does he not have fat?
Is his carnivore some kind of lean meat only and thats why he needs to supplement glucose? Why would he not use fat instead though?
>anon says meat has been eaten for millions of years >schizophrenic vegan starts hyperventilating about uranium, which no one has ever eaten in the past billion years
Damn that lack of B12 hits hard sometimes.
Humans didn't exist millions of years ago.
But humans(homosapien) has eaten plants and bugs since their existence so plants and bugs are the healthiest food ever too according to your own logic
Our hominid ancestors existed and ate meat for millions of years. There is also a compelling argument that early humans ate megafauna that were high in fat, which helped our brains grow.
>Our hominid ancestors existed and ate meat for millions of years
Ok and they ate plants too so >There is also a compelling argument that early humans ate megafauna that were high in fat, which helped our brains grow.
No that's a bullshit hypothesis, I favour the one that says that cooking all sorts of foods helped us grow, not meat itself
The only argument I've ever heard in favor of cooking meat helping our brain grow is the increased bioavailability of protein. If you look into it, the increase is modest, and the theory doesn't hold up. We don't get our energy from protein; we get it from carbs and fat. Once you hit the threshold of protein intake for optimal muscle growth and maintenance, any extra is pretty much biologically useless. You can get plenty of protein from raw meat, so cooking is superfluous. And your brain is 60% fat. And your nervous system is coated in myelin sheath (also mostly fat) in order to facilitate electric impulses. Fat is king, and it is prized by hunter gatherer societies for a reason.
The body automatically responds to diets with a stress response because the digestive system thinks something bad happened, so that signal is transferred to the whole body until it starts eating fat, which is basically a huge shift in its normal operation.
No matter what the diet is, you'll look aged by doing it.
But this may be one of the only diets that the body doesn't respond to with stress because it perceives an increase in meat consumption as living in prosperity
This is high IQ but anons here are too retarded and indoctrinated to get it. Among the healthiest centenarians, what really makes a difference isn't their diet, obviously they eat organic food but they also indulge in cigs/cigares, coffee, sugar, and other things. It's about having the same diet for a long time to let your body get used to it, and to never change it. The more it's used to it the better. Sudden change in diet is one of the worst thing you can do as you age, unless your diet was complete garbage in the first place.
I really feel like people who don't understand programming will never understand the body either.
Yeah bro, your body has a personality and an opinion of its own.
Increased meat consumption definitely makes your body go >"oh shit bro, we're living in times of plenty, how based is this? I'm gonna work at optimum performance now cause this is so based"
Keto carnivore, but he's too retarded to fulfill the necessary fat intake
>burdens his body by eating high protein high fat for 4 years >only starts incorporating more fruits and honey past year >"it's the carbs!1!!!!1!!!!"
see
[...]
>176g of protein >247g of carbs >230g of fat >"it's the carbs!1!!!!!1!1!1!"
this is you brain on ketones
[...]
Yeah, and his carnivore diet didn't reverse shit even though it's "the best diet on earth" according to him, very convincing.
[...] >eating meat cured his mental illness
Guy is fucked in the brain regardless of the diet, I watch him for entertainment.
for his macro breakdown, also this girl is a vegan on an insane caloric deficit, ofc she is also destroying herself
>so you see you can eat no carbs so that your body enter a stressed starvation state known as ketosis that is also produced by extreme endurance exercise with no refeeding >this is a good diet
Why are you here every day for hours at a time? Are you a NEET ketoschizo?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wait so if you recognize my posting that means your here just as much as I am and all while moderating your shitty sub reddit, impressive
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Browsing through the threads is not the same nor as time consuming as looking at your timestamps. You post the same images every day for more than 8 hours at a time. You're a pathetic gay.
Also I'm not your redditor boyfriend, schizo.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>n-no I'm not moxyte even though I'm basically the only one who uses words like "ketolard" and "ketoschizo" 24/7 in a board that barely ever talks about keto
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I visit this board once a year and that gay is still here posting the same shit as always.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I visit this board once a year and that gay is still here posting the same shit as always.
Still not your redditor buttbuddy, buddy. At this point I'm assuming you're playing both sides and pretending to be both. Your name is ketoschizo all things considered and you post here for 12-16 hours a day. I wouldn't put it past you.
Ketoschizo, you have a sad life. You should end it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Browsing through the threads is not the same nor as time consuming as looking at your timestamps. You post the same images every day for more than 8 hours at a time. You're a pathetic gay.
Also I'm not your redditor boyfriend, schizo.
>it's not me
you say this every time gay, nobody believes you, how many years are you going to shit up IST with your mental derangement?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That picture was posted (by me) on IST prior to it being posted on how subreddit. He's stated this multiple times. You're lying and you know you're being disingenuous. You do it on purpose. Why can't you just admit that you're wrong? Why are you like this ketoschizo? You're more disingenuous than Chris Chan at this point.
You should end your life. Today.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He, who is not me >I know everything about him, even though he is not me >also while I may be exactly like him, talk like him, act like him, I'm not him >why are you being disingenuous about me/him
have a nice day myxote. You dont lift, you dont eat like a human being, you are obese and shitpost daily, endlessly on multiple sites.
You would be laughed out of any conversation in real life the moment you opened your fat mouth about what people should or shouldnt eat. >Why are you like this ketoschizo? You're more disingenuous than Chris Chan at this point. >You should end your life. Today.
projecting. Read that back to yourself, it's what everybody tells you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not everyone you post at is your reddit boyfriend, Ketoschizo. You are mentally ill. You may want to see a doctor or have a nice day.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>projection
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Everyone here knows it's you, Moxyte. And no one here likes you for obvious reasons. Swiftly an hero.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon literally created an entire pic to document this mother fucker, priceless.
[...] >5+ years older >I-i-it's meat and honey!!1!1
ITT: zoomer retards that don't understand the effects aging.
Exactly. The fucker looks this way because he's soaking up cancer rays.
I'm 32 and barely different than when I was 22. And Saladino got full grey hair in just 5 years at ripe old age of 45
How to lie on IST, the gay tutorial.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That smug shit eating grin >Despite the fat that looks like utter garbage
Given how awful that cake looks guessing vegan
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He will fall asleep head-first into the table after eating this block of margarine
I alternate between meat and dairy every day, and eggs also almost every day. Liver once every few weeks. I also eat fruits, honey and fruit juices. I drink coffee with sugar as well. I'm not keto, not carni and not vegan, I just read Ray Peat and started experimenting after trying many diets.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Self experimentation is the best way to be. I eat bread and oats often but I still believe meat is the best food for us.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Self experimentation is the best way
Pretty much, don't stick to something if you feel like shit (or not better than before) after 2 weeks on it basically.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. I've run 3 months each of exclusive >keto >vegetarian >vegan >paleo >carnivore
And my conclusion was that the diet that works best for me is mixed: >meat: beef/chicken/eggs/liver/sardines/salmon >dairy: milk/yogurt/butter/kefir >fruit: misc, mostly citrus and berries >veggies: kimchi, steamed carrots >misc: white rice, sweet potatoes
That's 90% of my diet on any given day.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a sick diet for sick digits
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Did you actually try 3 months of each? Any more to say if so? Also nice quads
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes. I also tracked my weight and lifts and other data while I did them. The short version of each is: >keto gave me heartburn and that much fat isn't appetizing >vegetarian was suboptimal but not bad >vegan made me bloat like crazy, trying to get enough protein through lentils and whatnot made me gain a lot of weight >paleo was great >strict carnivore made me very lean and feel low energy
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
interesting
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sounds about right, the vegan food volume thing is a shame.
t. fellow experimenter
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Actually not bad, give it a shot
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
based experimenter. I did:
3 months on gomad-like diet
2 years on high carb high protein low fat
1 year on keto
2 months on fish + greens only (lol)
1 month vegan
3 years mostly veggies + meat once a week
My conclusions are:
- dairy sucks
- bread / pasta is shit tier food. Rice and potatoes are better but shouldn't be too much of your calorie intake
- fruit is alright to use to improve taste of shakes or porridge but veggies are better
- meat is great but it's full of cancer from our environment like heavy metals, pharma crap, hormones and pesticides from shit animal feed
- veggies are god tier but be careful with pesticides
- pea / rice protein powder is decent, I thought it would be way worse than whey for muscle buildings but I've noticed no difference and there are ~6 studies showing that there's little difference in muscle growth even though the amino acid profiles are not the same
- you HAVE to use supplements on a mostly vegan diet. I eat some meat but still noticed a huge difference when I started taking D3 / zinc / B group supps
most importantly don't go for a diet that you hate. You'll find ways to cheat and lie to yourself and won't get results
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a great diet. >3 months of vegan
Thank you for your sacrifice.
and yet here you are typing with the same stomach acid ph as a vulture and a shriveled appendix,
https://i.imgur.com/9KlkQ1U.jpg
Wait so if you recognize my posting that means your here just as much as I am and all while moderating your shitty sub reddit, impressive
this is the result of advanced glycation end products (aka "AGEs"), which form when you ingest carbohydrates and especially sugars. glucose reacts with proteins and fats in your body and they accumulate throughout your life and quite literally age you. the only way to slow it down is to keep glucose levels low
Only tards limit their diet to some handful of ingredients. Every food apart from processed grains and sugar have unique nutrient profiles that benefit you. People on these specific diets all end up looking like ghouls.
look, i live in a tropical shithole so i know how damaging afternoon sunlight is. Dr. salad spends his time surfing in the blazing beach sunlight in the afternoon (worst time to get sun) and no amount of PUFA depletion can help with that, he looks just like the typical hole digger who spends 8 hour in the sun
Why do people claim our ancestors ate exclusively meat? Bodies we have found preserved (due to cold or in peat bogs) show they likely gained at least 50% of their calories from plants.
Black 10000 years ago is when agriculture become widespread and our diet changed massively. Go back a hundred thousand years and meat is what we predominantly ate, proven by stable isotope analysis. We were the apex predators and went after the biggest baddest animals there were.
The ones that have been specifically bred and cultivated for that purpose. Nothing close to what would have naturally occurred in the wild, especially in environmental conditions your ancestors likely would have evolved in.
All the meat you eat today was specifically bred by humans too so you are not saying anything >Nothing close to what would have naturally occurred in the wild,
There's tribes today today that get most of their calories from crop roots so this is wrong >specially in environmental conditions your ancestors likely would have evolved in.
This is just speculation
>All the meat you eat today was specifically bred by humans too so you are not saying anything
What bullshit argument is that? What matters is what we actually ate, and that we should eat as close to that as we can now.
where tf does this meme come from? fructose is superior to glucose bc it doesnt cause nearly much of an insulin spike and it raises the metabolic rate
in the cell, fructose is processed exactly the same way as glucose it just skips the first couple steps of glycolysis
glucose gets converted into fructose anyway when it goes through glycolysis
there is no mechanism by which fructose is harmful
[...]
only his cholesterol and ldl really
and high total cholesterol alone is not really bad in itself especially if youre middle aged, its normal for cholesterol to rise as you get older
also just as test ranges have been lowered to a preposterous degree over the decades, so has cholesterol (largely in order to sell statins)
the mean for men of all ages in 1960 was 220mg/dL and dropped to 203 by 2000
mind you 203 is still considered above the modern "reference range" which considers 199 to be the upper end, which like I said, is insane https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/articlepdf/201671/joc50099.pdf
sneed oils lower cholesterol and ldl while raising risk of cardiovascular disease dramatically
you actually want "high" (by todays fraudulent standards) cholesterol and ldl, saladino is fine basically
>there is no mechanism by which fructose is harmful
Of course there is and it's called glycation.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What matters is what we actually ate
Why the fuck that matters, also are saying humans only ate meat? What's the evidence for that >and that we should eat as close to that as we can now.
What we ate has zero to do with its long term health consequences, and meat is unhealthy due to saturated fat
Left: pic taken in professional lighting with a high quality camera and he's smiling
Right: random screenshot from when he's talking to his webcam. Raising eyebrows which creases your forehead. And spends hours surfing everyday in a tropical place
He looks great for a 45-year-old who tans like a cowboy.
He's still eating too much organ meat (iron), his hemocrit is sky high and he put out a video a couple weeks trying to coping how giving blood to lower it is totally fine and natural.
Now that he's moved away from strict carnivore I think his diet is pretty reasonable though. Fruit and honey purely as carb sources are a little shittier for performance compared to starches like rice because they metabolize as liver glycogen over muscle glycogen. But for just living day to day and being healthy, yeah I'm pretty sure a minimalistic dirt of organic meats and fruit is better than 99% of the general population's diet.
The reason he needed to move away from strict carnivore in the first place was because he would not let go of the liver (because he shills for organ supplements). If simple cut out the liver, he would have been absolutely fine, just like every other carnivore that eats a muscle meat only diet.
The reason he needed to move away from strict carnivore in the first place was because he would not let go of the liver (because he shills for organ supplements). If simple cut out the liver, he would have been absolutely fine, just like every other carnivore that eats a muscle meat only diet.
I landed on having 1 day per week for organ meats (around 200g/8 oz) to "refuel" on nutrients - is that okay?
Pythagoras advocated for a diet mainly consisting of bread, milk and honey.
Saint Anthony lived for 80+ years in a cave, eating only bread once every few days.
Your meme diet idols die at 60 years old.
I eat meat and eggs and drink milk, veganism is dumb. But I wouldn't give up grains for anything. I eat a (dry measure) cup of oats and another of white rice basically every day and if you tell me this isn't IST I will just laugh at you.
>I eat meat and eggs and drink milk, veganism is dumb. But I wouldn't give up grains for anything. I eat a (dry measure) cup of oats and another of white rice basically every day and if you tell me this isn't IST I will just laugh at you. >Potatoes are even better.
he felt like shit because he wasn't eating enough protein on the carnivore diet, ironically, and now he's just gonna get more inflammation and fat deposits
it's a bandaid for his issue, and a temporary one too
it's embarassing he would make this mistake in the first place and i hate the fact that these type of gays represent my diet
t. 6 month carnivore fully fat adapted and at the top of his life
why are you playing make-believe cope fantasies? not only have i never had diabetes, but i have low blood pressure and perfect kidney health too despite injesting 8-10 grams of salt a day
no pump no flexan btw
i get bloodwork done every 2 months
jimmy moore is a pedo lying obese grifter, aside from that, the fact that people become extremely carb sensitive after a long term fat adapted diet is well known. Within a short period after reintroducing carbs they go back to proessing them normally. It is not diabetes lmao.
Yep, if you don't eat carbs in a while, body gets rid of stored insulin since you don't seem to be needing it anymore. Once you eat carbs again, it takes a while to process the glucose, which is why glucose tolerance tests show bad results. But if you just keep eating carbs for a short while and test again, results normalize. Fat making you diabetic is just another vegan myth
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you just need to take a piece of candy a day before the test to get normal results
Anyone on a fad diet is mentally and pshycial ill.
No one decideds to go on a fad diet while being healthy.
Its just a desperate attempt of an easy cure.
For example there's a huge difference between someone born a vegeratian and someone going on a vegetarian diet for health. The on doing it for health is almost always unhealthy mentally and physically
>I swear bros just making up random combinations of foods at this point
There are literally the foods that would exist in nature and that our ancestors would eat before agriculture. If you think that this is a random combination, than you have absolutely no clue at all.
I'm not reading this whole thread but the guy who hates moxyte (even though I don't know who that is) is based and anyone who uses words like "ketolard" or "ketoschizo" are schizophrenic and fat themselves. I'm going to assume the anti-moxyte man is arguing with a vegan chud, or moxyte him(?)self.
Seriously though, if I met someone in real life and they started talking about "ketolards" and "ketoschizos" I would leave the conversation as soon as possible. What a creep. I don't think keto is even that popular anymore.
i wanna try carnivore and this thread convinced me to, but i have 3 quick questions.
1. How do i adapt to no carb-high fat without dying? Im peating atm
2. How do i have the energy to train without white rice
3. will i go bald?
>1. How do i adapt to no carb-high fat without dying? Im peating atm
Slowly over about 6-8 weeks. Gradually reduce your carbs over that time. >2. How do i have the energy to train without white rice
With glycogen. The only difference is the rate at which it replenishes which is not relevant unless you intend to run long distances. >3. will i go bald?
not related
>Slowly over about 6-8 weeks. Gradually reduce your carbs over that time.
Should i replace any meats im eating? my protein sources now are egg whites, chicken breasts x2 , cod fish , and why
i eat tons of carbs, like 8 slices of bread per day and 200g oats. should i start adding steak in or no?
>The only difference is the rate at which it replenishes which is not relevant unless you intend to run long distances.
what if i want to build muscle tho
>not related
why is sv3rige,rogan, peterson and many carni guys bald/baldin then?
>Should i replace any meats im eating? my protein sources now are egg whites, chicken breasts x2 , cod fish , and why >i eat tons of carbs, like 8 slices of bread per day and 200g oats. should i start adding steak in or no?
Beef should eventually become your primary source of nutrition. >what if i want to build muscle tho
During your adaptive phase, I would expect strength and stamina to go down. I personally am gaining muscle. Since going full carnivore and starting the gym back in December, all my lifts have gone from novice to proficient. I will add that I have been high fat diet for a decade, just not keto/carnivore, so I will have been quite fat-adapted >Also is coffee allowed in carni?
to begin with.
I drink coffee, but ideally I shouldn't and neither should you.
>why is sv3rige,rogan, peterson and many carni guys bald/baldin then?
No idea, there are plenty of carnivores who are not bald aswell.
Do you mean carnivore or 'animal-based'? Even sv3rige eats animal based with fruits, juices, etc. Frank Tufano and of course Saladino both also eventually reintroduced plenty of carbs. Carnivore is just an elimination diet, is there an actual reason to try it in your case?
I wanna try it for overall health. I’m 30 and still have some diseases like asthma and anxiety and some dundruff on my hair. I think it’s diet related although I work stressful job.
>Frank Tufano and of course Saladino both also eventually reintroduced plenty of carbs.
Both ate too much liver and developed iron overload and elevated SHGB as a result. Every carnivore that stuck to muscle meat is still doing carnivore now.
Shawn Baker, Anthony Chafee, Bart Kay/ >Also you mean they ONLY eat meat and nothing else.
Specifically muscle meat with its fat plus any additional fat as required as the primary source of nutrition. No organs. Eggs are generally good. You could eat dairy if doesn't affect you. Some do, some don't. But mostly it is muscle meat and the fat of large ruminant animals.
Unironically this is why you shouldn't take the surfing pill like he did. Every surfer ends up with a face like a catcher's mitt from sunmaxxing.
just wear sunblock bro
that's not enough anon
Yea bro apply the cancer chemical to your biggest organ so you can stay in the scorching summer sun all day and slowly cook your skin over the course of your life.
Don't forget the monoi/coconut oil so you have an even frying surface.
Try basementmaxxing. It makes the surfcels seethe
nah bro sun doesn't damage your skin at all just avoid sneedoils and your skin will magically protect itself from solar radiation
Le Mediterranean boomer face syndrome
>5+ years older
>I-i-it's meat and honey!!1!1
ITT: zoomer retards that don't understand the effects aging.
I'm 32 and barely different than when I was 22. And Saladino got full grey hair in just 5 years at ripe old age of 45
what are genes
that said most vegan veggie bitches i know are getting grey hair
by the age of 28
This poster is a massive gay dreaming of sucking Saladino's dick and taking it into his ass. No other explanation for this kind of desperate defense
that isn't full grey and where the fuck do you come from that greying in your 40s is weird?
thats from sun not fruit and honey
also I think he eats too much meat in proportion to carbs so he prob has high cortisol
unironically hed look better with MORE sugar and a little more body fat
he still looks good tho and Im sure hes healthier than any other nutrition grifter
yeah i'm sure the grey hairs are from the sun
> Sun doesn't ruin fabrics, lmao.
> Why are paintings/books kept in the dark from the sun?
Sun literally roasts everything.
The carnivore diet and fasting reverse gray hairs
The carnivore diet gets you bald like your idol sv3rige you retards. You get too much cysteine, tryptophan and methionine so you are growthmaxing (ie cancermaxxing). You get too much iron and probably all around metals so your hairs get white.
>paul salad is borderline exclusive carnivore from 2018 to 2022
>it's the sugar
absolute retards
>Eating a literal pound of fruit and honey every day is being "borderline exclusive" carnivore
Fucking kek. You aren't even a tad ashamed of your obvious retardation, are you?
>176g of protein
>247g of carbs
>230g of fat
>"it's the carbs!1!!!!!1!1!1!"
this is you brain on ketones
Yeah, and his carnivore diet didn't reverse shit even though it's "the best diet on earth" according to him, very convincing.
>eating meat cured his mental illness
Guy is fucked in the brain regardless of the diet, I watch him for entertainment.
And adding on this paul salad has been shifting more towards carbs, it was an even worse macro breakdown before
HEHE NOOTRIENTS already had that hairline when he was vegan, the dude started balding in high school
>paul salad is borderline exclusive carnivore from 2018 to 2022
Not a carnivore dieter, he slathers honey on all his meat and fruitmaxxes, what he cut out was veggies, grains, and dairy.
Goatis went bald when he was a mentally ill vegan. Eating meat cured his mental illness and anxiety but he took things to a retarded extreme for the youtube views.
How do we know saladino didn't get vitamin A poisoning from eating too much liver as a carnie?
Im pretty sure his ageing is just from baking out in the sun all day as a white guy. Tanning is good for your health, but it can make your skin look leathery and older.
He really does look fine, and totally healthy. If he were doing a vegan diet he would look significantly worse.
>cured his mental illness
>The carnivore diet gets you bald like your idol sv3rige you retards. You get too much cysteine, tryptophan and methionine so you are growthmaxing (ie cancermaxxing). You get too much iron and probably all around metals so your hairs get white.
>Source: I made it up
That’s because he’s old you fucking retard. You losers will grasp at anything just to complain.
I don’t know if it applicable in this situation but this is true. This board is a collection of some the most miserable, cynical, cock sucking losers on the internet.
just have a nice day.
Then you won't have to deal with gray hairs, or wrinkly skin.
Yeah, he's got cooked skin and grey hairs from being le ketolard carnitard! Couldn't ever be age or too much sun...
Please fucking die already, Moxyte.
>he prob has high cortisol
he's on performance TRT which is actually anti-cortisol. but that's also contributing to his facial aging
Why not both? Why does it have to be either one thing or another? Fructose is 10x more damaging to cells than glucose. And no, a1c tests are not sensitive to fructation as they are glycation.
>Fructose is 10x more damaging to cells than glucose
where tf does this meme come from? fructose is superior to glucose bc it doesnt cause nearly much of an insulin spike and it raises the metabolic rate
in the cell, fructose is processed exactly the same way as glucose it just skips the first couple steps of glycolysis
glucose gets converted into fructose anyway when it goes through glycolysis
there is no mechanism by which fructose is harmful
only his cholesterol and ldl really
and high total cholesterol alone is not really bad in itself especially if youre middle aged, its normal for cholesterol to rise as you get older
also just as test ranges have been lowered to a preposterous degree over the decades, so has cholesterol (largely in order to sell statins)
the mean for men of all ages in 1960 was 220mg/dL and dropped to 203 by 2000
mind you 203 is still considered above the modern "reference range" which considers 199 to be the upper end, which like I said, is insane https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/articlepdf/201671/joc50099.pdf
sneed oils lower cholesterol and ldl while raising risk of cardiovascular disease dramatically
you actually want "high" (by todays fraudulent standards) cholesterol and ldl, saladino is fine basically
>while raising risk of cardiovascular disease dramatically
this is complete bullshit, seed oils are healthy and lower heart disease
youre joking right?
I thought we were all on board at this point that PUFA is the worst thing you can possibly consume but in case you seriously think its good, heres some studies (the youtube and twitter links are summaries of the studies theyre paired with for those of you who are lazy fucks)
also read peats articles on the matter if you want more of a biochemical/endocrinological background raypeat.com/articles
minnesota coronary experiment is potentially the most rigorous nutrition experiment ever conducted and proved beyond a doubt that saturated fats lower coronary events vs unsaturated/polyunsaturated:
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246
epidemiological studies:
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1649048036478427139?s=20
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28864332/
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1646449590529404928?s=20
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0146280622003826
>meat is unhealthy due to saturated fat
Prove it. You can't
Lee Hooper 2020 and all the litarature that shows that meat increases ldl and apob
the post youre replying to is arguing that saturated fat is good you illiterate cretin
ldl is supposed to be high relative to hdl, you only see suppressed ldl these days bc peoples diets are so full of PUFA
in the past before PUFA was in everything total cholesterol and ldl used to be way higher than it is now
see:
most glycation is caused/catalysed by lipid peroxidation, ie PUFA
it also usually happens bc there is a lack of CO2 in the cell protecting the free amino groups on proteins (CO2 binds to amino groups on proteins forming protective carbamino groups), which leaves them susceptable to attack
a lack of CO2 is caused by impaired OXPHOS metabolism
more sugar being metabolised means more CO2 means less glycation
ie restricting sugar will increase glycation by interfering with metabolism and introducing more proteins susceptable to glycation and PUFA (even if you try to restrict PUFA, more overall fat consumption means more PUFA)
raypeat.com/articles/articles/glycemia.shtml
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0021925817310475
>ray peatberg
Can you explain what Ray Peat is advocating for on his website? It seems like schizobabble to me and I'm somewhat versed in this. Starch bad or sugar good?
Disordered eating
sugar good
starch is sugar
sucrose is slightly better than starch, but starch is also okay if your gut can handle it
saladinos meat and fruit diet is basically ripped off from peat, except saladino is a grifter so he will never admit that the sugar in honey and fruits is the same as table sugar and that starch is also just pure glucose
also peat advocates seafood, especially shellfish, which Ive never seen saladino eat
>raypeat.com/articles
no point in mentioning peat's works, these sneed oil apologists are beyond brainwashed
>minnesota coronary experiment is potentially the most rigorous nutrition experiment
No is not lmao, the minnesota experiment was a trash failed study that had high attrition rate which means the study had no statistical power, it was also confounded by transfats and it only had a follow up of 12 months, is no wonder the authors didn't wanted the study published due to how utterly trash it was
Oh that retard joseph everett, that video was already thoroughly debunked in this video
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28864332/
PURE is a trash study that compared countries with high poverty with rich countries, you are clueless
Here's two bigger meta analysis on the subject with over 1 million people each
"Diets high in saturated fat were associated with higher mortality from all-causes, CVD, and cancer, whereas diets high in polyunsaturated fat were associated with lower mortality from all-causes, CVD, and cancer."
"SFA was associated with higher all-cause mortality in NHANES and with CHD mortality in our meta-analysis"
https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(20)30355-1/fulltext
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32307197/
>Follow the science you gay ketos!
>you mean this science?!
>NOOO NOT LIKE THIS, I mean THIS science study that supports MY view point, all other science studies that don't, don't count.
Post body, thats all that needs to be said. You can yammer about your religion all you want but at the end of the day, reality doesnt care about your feelings or delusions and will inevitably remind you where you are.
>inb4 starts posting bunch of images of other people to cope
>regression fraud
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0146280622003826
Is this a cross sectional study, I don't view this as strong evidence of anything
>and high total cholesterol alone is not really bad in itself especially if youre middle aged, its normal for cholesterol to rise as you get older"
Yeah no this is bullshit, the diet he's trying to "copy" from, the hadza diet the people there have way lower cholesterol numbers, hunter gatherers generally have much lower cholesterol than modern humans in standing civilizations
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109704007168?via%3Dihub
The optimal LDL cholesterol is below 70, anything above that and there's evidence of formation of atherosclerotic plaques. Quit looking at averages when the average person is in fact unhealthy, like the actual insane mental gymnastics for you to say high cholesterol is good when the average american with high cholesterol gets heart attacks(#1 killer next to cancer) and needs to be on statins lmao
>total cholesterol of 110-145 is "ideal"
this is more dangerous than having a 280 total cholesterol, no wonder hunter gatherers die early
they're not dying from heart attacks cringelord, also if you're the exact guy I just replied to how you gonna say that when onions paladino is trying to emulate them? all these carnivore/keto/paleo retards are trying to appeal to hunter gatherers in the first place on what a healthy and "manly" diet is, though they're not actually following the exact diet they just shill for being gay for eating as much domesticated factory farm meat as possible
it is, seen it with my own blood tests. when I tried keto years back my cholesterol levels skyrocketed and for the first time I got chest pain, a common symptom that people get from high cholesterol. so what a surprise when i stopped keto and eating as much meat, my cholesterol levels went back down and I stopped getting this chest pain. I wasn't even fat btw, that's the crazy part, i was 18 bmi at this point in time and was a lot weaker than I am now. these heavy meat eating diets are a scam and they can only temporarily work on the most obese people trying to lose weight, where they falsely attribute better health from just losing weight to their diet
cholesterol in itself is actually protective, this has been agreed upon for decades, it's when they're oxidized that they're harmful. and high cholesterol is a thyroid problem, no shit your cholesterol jacked up during keto, you need carbs to activate your thyroid
>no wonder hunter gatherers die early
This is probably the dumbest post ITT.
Imagine being such an NPC that you can't even fathom a reason why HUNTER-gatherers would die during adulthood. Hmm maybe from the HUNTING?? Maybe from getting GASHED OPEN from animals with CLAWS and TEETH?
The hunter-gatherers you're talking about have no heart disease and plenty of elders, by the way.
You are assuming elevated cholesterol is causal instead of a symptom of underlying chronic illness.
Yes, high cholesterol is a symptom of eating foods with cholesterol. What kind of pseudo intellectual comment is that
>Yes, high cholesterol is a symptom of eating foods with cholesterol. What kind of pseudo intellectual comment is that
Blaming cholesterol for heart disease is like blaming firemen for fires because they are always there when fires occur.
>high cholesterol is a symptom of eating foods with cholesterol
This is a fringe conspiracy theory. Even Harvard says this is wrong lol.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol/
>The biggest influence on blood cholesterol level is the mix of fats and carbohydrates in your diet—not the amount of cholesterol you eat from food.
Of course this is a retarded statement from Harvard, but I'm just showing how outdated/fringe this "dietary cholesterol impacts blood cholesterol" meme is.
>Of course this is a retarded statement from Harvard, but I'm just showing how outdated/fringe this "dietary cholesterol impacts blood cholesterol" meme is.
It's not retarded. Macro mixing leads to chronic elevated blood sugar and inflammation that will cause glycation damage to the cardiovascular system, requiring cholesterol to repair damaged cells.
Wow your post is full of complicated words I am 100% sure you don't understand at all. Everything you are describing is caused by "high blood sugar" which is caused by overeating and being inactive. You don't have to "mix macros" to achieve this, you just have to eat like shit.
If you eat a meal of fatty steak with a baked potato and butter, you are obviously mixing macros. But that meal is not going to cause you to have a high blood sugar or "glycation damage" (lmao you don't even know what this means).
If you eat a meal of goyslop with refined seed oils and wash it down with some shitty HFCS soda, you are again, obviously mixing macros, but that's (obviously) not your primary problem. The problem is you are eating like shit. Combine this with being sedentary and you have the diet and lifestyle of the average American with diabetes.
The problem isn't "mixing macros" you pseudointellectual retard. And that's what makes the Harvard statement retarded. They imply that eating a macro-balanced diet is unhealthy when the much more obvious problem is the massive amounts of refined sugars and seed oils people are eating. But they can't say the latter, so they obfuscate the truth with science mumbo-jumbo that retards like you repeat with no understanding of biochemistry or physiology.
It's called the Randle cycle. Fat and sugar cross-inhibit one another from access to cells. The reason this happens is because idle glucose will damage cells, so glucose, in a cell replete with fat, will be locked out no matter how insulin is in the bloodstream. This is what causes elevated blood sugar, aka diabetes. This only occurs at surplus btw, but any time you eat at a surplus this way, you further the diabetic negative feedback loop. HFCS, and PUFAs escalate the issue, but the underlying driver is mixing fat and carbs in the diet, which is why both keto, and low-fat (chicken breast and rice/vegan) diets are effective weight loss strategies. They deactivate Randle activation and reverse diabetes.
"Overeating" as you said starts off as gluttony but soon becomes ravenous hunger due to metabolic syndrome. The syndrome needs to be addressed instead of simply restricting calories using CICO principles.
It's not like this metabolic mechanism is not without purpose. It allows infants to gain weight and allows humans to do the same in summer in preparation for winter. But chronically activating the Randle cycle is what causes all these metabolic issues.
>blah blah blah made-up nonsense with no bearing on reality
I don't really care about your niche boogeyman biochemistry pathway. You are overcomplicating something very simple.
When I eat fatty steak cooked in tallow and then eat fruits or honey for dessert, I don't gain fat. If I were to eat microwave meals and soda (and overeat because those foods aren't satiating) I would gain fat. Simple as.
For anyone else interested or scared of this subject, there's this video I watched and forgot all the details about. You can watch it, too, anon, but I have a feeling you won't:
>metabolic syndrome
Do you even know what this is? You don't get metabolic syndrome by having mixed macro meals, idiot.
>Fat and sugar cross-inhibit one another from access to cells.
You're use of "cross-inhibit" instead of the scientific word "competing" shows you have no idea what you're talking about.
>The reason this happens is because idle glucose will damage cell
This is a nonsequitur. Also, you only get massive glucose spikes with low-quality shitty foods.
>This is what causes elevated blood sugar, aka diabetes.
No, that's not at all what causes diabetes. Diabetes is caused by chronic elevated blood glucose, which is caused by shitty eating and a sedentary lifestyle (I already discussed this).
>and then eat fruits or honey for dessert,
but... whyyyyyyy
Because it's delicious and honey is based (the Bible says so). I also exercise daily, unlike you.
>muh bible
>muh taste
so you do it for your sensory enjoyment, and not for any biological need, got it.
bears hybenate over the winter with no food, do you do that?
>Diabetes is caused by chronic elevated blood glucose,
Which is the Randle Cycle preventing sugar access to the cells.
As I said:
>This only occurs at surplus btw, but any time you eat at a surplus this way, you further the diabetic negative feedback loop.
Saladino compensates for his carb intake with ridiculous levels of physical activity. Fructose is processed differently than other sugars, but just because he is not becoming diabetic, doesn't mean all the fructose is not fucking him up in other ways.
Virgin Liver Queen Saladino vs Chad giga-autist Bart Kay. Saladino loses every time.
>400g of carbs per day
>carnivore
HAHHAHAH
Bears eat thousands of berries every day, and also bears obviously love honey.
>Humans are bears
>prevents
No, it doesn't. You don't know basic biochemistry. Competing =/= preventing. You would know this if you ever took a biochemistry course or actually studied it instead of guessing randomly. This has massive implications.
>Saladino compensates for caloric intake by exercising
lol, lmao even
>handsome muscular man vs skinny bald weakling who sits in a gaming chair
Hm I wonder who is correct on the topic of health and nutrition?
>Fructose is processed differently than other sugars
Please show me one source that fructose (in food) is "processed differently" than any other sugar. You can't because you're basing your nonsense off of studies on isolated fructose taken out of a food matrix because you don't know wtf you're talking about.
>out of a food matrix
Muh matrix cope. It's all the same shit
>Please show me one source that fructose (in food) is "processed differently" than any other sugar.
Are you saying fructose isn't processed by the liver? That it doesn't spike insulin the same way sucrose does? I really hope your liver can keep up.
>Competing =/= preventing. You would know this if you ever took a biochemistry course or actually studied it instead of guessing randomly.
Nice vocab sperging. It is irrelevant though.
>Hm I wonder who is correct on the topic of health and nutrition?
Saladboi's field of specialty is psychiatry. Keep eating your sugar and liver, though. I am sure you have it all figures out.
>That it doesn't spike insulin the same way sucrose does?
yes, if anything pure fructose wouldn't spike your insulin as much as sucrose
>Please show me one source that fructose (in food) is "processed differently" than any other sugar.
holy shit this dude actually doesn't know how fructose is metabolized, he thinks the cells of the body just uptake and use fructose like they do with glucose HAHAHHA
this is basic biology and he doesn't know it
His blood numbers are genuinely fucked. Luckily he is active and slim but eventually he'll have a cardiac episode
that's from some 10 months ago, his bloodworks have improved nowadays
>also I think he eats too much meat in proportion to carbs so he prob has high cortisol
Holy crap, it's irl soijak!
you clearly dont know what you are talking about because he eats 300-400 carbs from fruits and honey every day
The problem here is that you believe what fitness YouTubers selling supplements say they do
Avoiding all powders and pills is the final fitness redpill. The only pill you need haha
You mean don't fall for the 400g carbs per day meme. Meat has been eaten for millions of years, it's the healthiest food that exists.
Uranium has existed for billions of years, it's the healthiest food that exists
Did our ancestors eat uranium, anon? Try to use your brain if you have one
>uranium
>18 million kcal/g
I wish.
the ultimate and final bulk
>fruit
>honey
for what purpose...
>eat one gram
>be set for 20 years
god imagine if we were so efficient.
fruit and honey for glucose, fructose, vitamins and minerals?
what vitamins and minerals in fucking honey?
Why does he need fructose? Does he not have modern food storage and needs to pack on body fat for winter?
Why glucose, does he not have fat?
Is his carnivore some kind of lean meat only and thats why he needs to supplement glucose? Why would he not use fat instead though?
>anon says meat has been eaten for millions of years
>schizophrenic vegan starts hyperventilating about uranium, which no one has ever eaten in the past billion years
Damn that lack of B12 hits hard sometimes.
Humans didn't exist millions of years ago.
But humans(homosapien) has eaten plants and bugs since their existence so plants and bugs are the healthiest food ever too according to your own logic
Our hominid ancestors existed and ate meat for millions of years. There is also a compelling argument that early humans ate megafauna that were high in fat, which helped our brains grow.
>Our hominid ancestors existed and ate meat for millions of years
Ok and they ate plants too so
>There is also a compelling argument that early humans ate megafauna that were high in fat, which helped our brains grow.
No that's a bullshit hypothesis, I favour the one that says that cooking all sorts of foods helped us grow, not meat itself
The only argument I've ever heard in favor of cooking meat helping our brain grow is the increased bioavailability of protein. If you look into it, the increase is modest, and the theory doesn't hold up. We don't get our energy from protein; we get it from carbs and fat. Once you hit the threshold of protein intake for optimal muscle growth and maintenance, any extra is pretty much biologically useless. You can get plenty of protein from raw meat, so cooking is superfluous. And your brain is 60% fat. And your nervous system is coated in myelin sheath (also mostly fat) in order to facilitate electric impulses. Fat is king, and it is prized by hunter gatherer societies for a reason.
It's called OPSAD: one pound of sugar (honey and fruit) a day
He gets lots of sun, good for him. Enjoy life bro.
Agreed. Zero carb carnivore is the only sensible diet.
The body automatically responds to diets with a stress response because the digestive system thinks something bad happened, so that signal is transferred to the whole body until it starts eating fat, which is basically a huge shift in its normal operation.
No matter what the diet is, you'll look aged by doing it.
But this may be one of the only diets that the body doesn't respond to with stress because it perceives an increase in meat consumption as living in prosperity
negative IQ post
It's too intelligent a post for you to understand.
Based.
Cringe.
Would
In real life, of course, low carb sends your cortisol to the moon and gives you the "keto flu." but yeah muh gilf abundance blah blah
This is high IQ but anons here are too retarded and indoctrinated to get it. Among the healthiest centenarians, what really makes a difference isn't their diet, obviously they eat organic food but they also indulge in cigs/cigares, coffee, sugar, and other things. It's about having the same diet for a long time to let your body get used to it, and to never change it. The more it's used to it the better. Sudden change in diet is one of the worst thing you can do as you age, unless your diet was complete garbage in the first place.
WouldN'T
I really feel like people who don't understand programming will never understand the body either.
Yeah bro, your body has a personality and an opinion of its own.
Increased meat consumption definitely makes your body go
>"oh shit bro, we're living in times of plenty, how based is this? I'm gonna work at optimum performance now cause this is so based"
It's the opposite.
Your body works "more" optimal during bad times.
An example of that is the deer in the video can't relax in this situation, so all it's senses and organs are working "more" optimal here.
What was his original diet?
Keto carnivore, but he's too retarded to fulfill the necessary fat intake
>starts eating more fruit
>starts looking like shit
really makes you think
>burdens his body by eating high protein high fat for 4 years
>only starts incorporating more fruits and honey past year
>"it's the carbs!1!!!!1!!!!"
see
for his macro breakdown, also this girl is a vegan on an insane caloric deficit, ofc she is also destroying herself
his body by eating high protein high fat for 4 years
Keto is moderate protein, high fat. Saladino is as much of a mongoloid as you are, I see.
>so you see you can eat no carbs so that your body enter a stressed starvation state known as ketosis that is also produced by extreme endurance exercise with no refeeding
>this is a good diet
and yet here you are typing with the same stomach acid ph as a vulture and a shriveled appendix,
Why are you here every day for hours at a time? Are you a NEET ketoschizo?
Wait so if you recognize my posting that means your here just as much as I am and all while moderating your shitty sub reddit, impressive
Browsing through the threads is not the same nor as time consuming as looking at your timestamps. You post the same images every day for more than 8 hours at a time. You're a pathetic gay.
Also I'm not your redditor boyfriend, schizo.
>n-no I'm not moxyte even though I'm basically the only one who uses words like "ketolard" and "ketoschizo" 24/7 in a board that barely ever talks about keto
I visit this board once a year and that gay is still here posting the same shit as always.
Still not your redditor buttbuddy, buddy. At this point I'm assuming you're playing both sides and pretending to be both. Your name is ketoschizo all things considered and you post here for 12-16 hours a day. I wouldn't put it past you.
Ketoschizo, you have a sad life. You should end it.
>it's not me
you say this every time gay, nobody believes you, how many years are you going to shit up IST with your mental derangement?
That picture was posted (by me) on IST prior to it being posted on how subreddit. He's stated this multiple times. You're lying and you know you're being disingenuous. You do it on purpose. Why can't you just admit that you're wrong? Why are you like this ketoschizo? You're more disingenuous than Chris Chan at this point.
You should end your life. Today.
>He, who is not me
>I know everything about him, even though he is not me
>also while I may be exactly like him, talk like him, act like him, I'm not him
>why are you being disingenuous about me/him
have a nice day myxote. You dont lift, you dont eat like a human being, you are obese and shitpost daily, endlessly on multiple sites.
You would be laughed out of any conversation in real life the moment you opened your fat mouth about what people should or shouldnt eat.
>Why are you like this ketoschizo? You're more disingenuous than Chris Chan at this point.
>You should end your life. Today.
projecting. Read that back to yourself, it's what everybody tells you.
Not everyone you post at is your reddit boyfriend, Ketoschizo. You are mentally ill. You may want to see a doctor or have a nice day.
>projection
Everyone here knows it's you, Moxyte. And no one here likes you for obvious reasons. Swiftly an hero.
Anon literally created an entire pic to document this mother fucker, priceless.
Exactly. The fucker looks this way because he's soaking up cancer rays.
How to lie on IST, the gay tutorial.
>That smug shit eating grin
>Despite the fat that looks like utter garbage
Given how awful that cake looks guessing vegan
He will fall asleep head-first into the table after eating this block of margarine
>why yes, I eat plants, how could you tell?
I alternate between meat and dairy every day, and eggs also almost every day. Liver once every few weeks. I also eat fruits, honey and fruit juices. I drink coffee with sugar as well. I'm not keto, not carni and not vegan, I just read Ray Peat and started experimenting after trying many diets.
Self experimentation is the best way to be. I eat bread and oats often but I still believe meat is the best food for us.
>Self experimentation is the best way
Pretty much, don't stick to something if you feel like shit (or not better than before) after 2 weeks on it basically.
This. I've run 3 months each of exclusive
>keto
>vegetarian
>vegan
>paleo
>carnivore
And my conclusion was that the diet that works best for me is mixed:
>meat: beef/chicken/eggs/liver/sardines/salmon
>dairy: milk/yogurt/butter/kefir
>fruit: misc, mostly citrus and berries
>veggies: kimchi, steamed carrots
>misc: white rice, sweet potatoes
That's 90% of my diet on any given day.
Sounds like a sick diet for sick digits
Did you actually try 3 months of each? Any more to say if so? Also nice quads
Yes. I also tracked my weight and lifts and other data while I did them. The short version of each is:
>keto gave me heartburn and that much fat isn't appetizing
>vegetarian was suboptimal but not bad
>vegan made me bloat like crazy, trying to get enough protein through lentils and whatnot made me gain a lot of weight
>paleo was great
>strict carnivore made me very lean and feel low energy
interesting
Sounds about right, the vegan food volume thing is a shame.
t. fellow experimenter
Actually not bad, give it a shot
based experimenter. I did:
3 months on gomad-like diet
2 years on high carb high protein low fat
1 year on keto
2 months on fish + greens only (lol)
1 month vegan
3 years mostly veggies + meat once a week
My conclusions are:
- dairy sucks
- bread / pasta is shit tier food. Rice and potatoes are better but shouldn't be too much of your calorie intake
- fruit is alright to use to improve taste of shakes or porridge but veggies are better
- meat is great but it's full of cancer from our environment like heavy metals, pharma crap, hormones and pesticides from shit animal feed
- veggies are god tier but be careful with pesticides
- pea / rice protein powder is decent, I thought it would be way worse than whey for muscle buildings but I've noticed no difference and there are ~6 studies showing that there's little difference in muscle growth even though the amino acid profiles are not the same
- you HAVE to use supplements on a mostly vegan diet. I eat some meat but still noticed a huge difference when I started taking D3 / zinc / B group supps
most importantly don't go for a diet that you hate. You'll find ways to cheat and lie to yourself and won't get results
Sounds like a great diet.
>3 months of vegan
Thank you for your sacrifice.
Is it the fruits or that she's probably taking in calories way below maintenance mode?
this is the result of advanced glycation end products (aka "AGEs"), which form when you ingest carbohydrates and especially sugars. glucose reacts with proteins and fats in your body and they accumulate throughout your life and quite literally age you. the only way to slow it down is to keep glucose levels low
moron it's from the sun. The sun dries out everything overtime. Your hair, your face/skin, your balls, ect.
Bet the white hair is also from the sun.
Only tards limit their diet to some handful of ingredients. Every food apart from processed grains and sugar have unique nutrient profiles that benefit you. People on these specific diets all end up looking like ghouls.
look, i live in a tropical shithole so i know how damaging afternoon sunlight is. Dr. salad spends his time surfing in the blazing beach sunlight in the afternoon (worst time to get sun) and no amount of PUFA depletion can help with that, he looks just like the typical hole digger who spends 8 hour in the sun
Ancient scythians (our ancestors) Ate a diet of meat, honey and diary.
Our ancestors also died toothless at the ripe age of 30 clueless anime autist
Yes our meat eating ancestors totally lost their teeth by thirty like grain cucks do.
Literally none of that is true but neither are steppe nomads eating honey and fruit all the time.
I would breed that rabbit. (ancestrally appropriately, of course.)
Why do people claim our ancestors ate exclusively meat? Bodies we have found preserved (due to cold or in peat bogs) show they likely gained at least 50% of their calories from plants.
Not possible for us to acquire that many calories from plants in the wild. Maybe you mean volume.
That's where you are wrong. Really do have a google, it's quite interesting actually what people in west europe ate 10,000 years old.
10k years is too modern.
Black 10000 years ago is when agriculture become widespread and our diet changed massively. Go back a hundred thousand years and meat is what we predominantly ate, proven by stable isotope analysis. We were the apex predators and went after the biggest baddest animals there were.
Nuts and root vegetables are very high in calories
The ones that have been specifically bred and cultivated for that purpose. Nothing close to what would have naturally occurred in the wild, especially in environmental conditions your ancestors likely would have evolved in.
All the meat you eat today was specifically bred by humans too so you are not saying anything
>Nothing close to what would have naturally occurred in the wild,
There's tribes today today that get most of their calories from crop roots so this is wrong
>specially in environmental conditions your ancestors likely would have evolved in.
This is just speculation
>All the meat you eat today was specifically bred by humans too so you are not saying anything
What bullshit argument is that? What matters is what we actually ate, and that we should eat as close to that as we can now.
>there is no mechanism by which fructose is harmful
Of course there is and it's called glycation.
>What matters is what we actually ate
Why the fuck that matters, also are saying humans only ate meat? What's the evidence for that
>and that we should eat as close to that as we can now.
What we ate has zero to do with its long term health consequences, and meat is unhealthy due to saturated fat
Nitrogen isotope testing.
Left: pic taken in professional lighting with a high quality camera and he's smiling
Right: random screenshot from when he's talking to his webcam. Raising eyebrows which creases your forehead. And spends hours surfing everyday in a tropical place
He looks great for a 45-year-old who tans like a cowboy.
kek he's dying his hair i guess that's very primal animal based
he also bleaches his teeth
Sun damage
He's still eating too much organ meat (iron), his hemocrit is sky high and he put out a video a couple weeks trying to coping how giving blood to lower it is totally fine and natural.
Now that he's moved away from strict carnivore I think his diet is pretty reasonable though. Fruit and honey purely as carb sources are a little shittier for performance compared to starches like rice because they metabolize as liver glycogen over muscle glycogen. But for just living day to day and being healthy, yeah I'm pretty sure a minimalistic dirt of organic meats and fruit is better than 99% of the general population's diet.
The reason he needed to move away from strict carnivore in the first place was because he would not let go of the liver (because he shills for organ supplements). If simple cut out the liver, he would have been absolutely fine, just like every other carnivore that eats a muscle meat only diet.
facts
What is the problem with liver? I eat it only occasionally and have been wondering if I should increase uptake
I landed on having 1 day per week for organ meats (around 200g/8 oz) to "refuel" on nutrients - is that okay?
Should be okay, just go easy on the liver. Other organs are less problematic.
Pythagoras advocated for a diet mainly consisting of bread, milk and honey.
Saint Anthony lived for 80+ years in a cave, eating only bread once every few days.
Your meme diet idols die at 60 years old.
White people need to stay out of the sun.
I eat meat and eggs and drink milk, veganism is dumb. But I wouldn't give up grains for anything. I eat a (dry measure) cup of oats and another of white rice basically every day and if you tell me this isn't IST I will just laugh at you.
Potatoes are even better.
>I eat meat and eggs and drink milk, veganism is dumb. But I wouldn't give up grains for anything. I eat a (dry measure) cup of oats and another of white rice basically every day and if you tell me this isn't IST I will just laugh at you.
>Potatoes are even better.
Post body.
Just don't eat overly processed foods. Really not that complicated
Sometimes processing is better, see white rice
bros head looks like an orange even in the 2018 pic
>they don't know about the randle cycle
he felt like shit because he wasn't eating enough protein on the carnivore diet, ironically, and now he's just gonna get more inflammation and fat deposits
it's a bandaid for his issue, and a temporary one too
it's embarassing he would make this mistake in the first place and i hate the fact that these type of gays represent my diet
t. 6 month carnivore fully fat adapted and at the top of his life
>fully fat adapted
you have diabetes
why are you playing make-believe cope fantasies? not only have i never had diabetes, but i have low blood pressure and perfect kidney health too despite injesting 8-10 grams of salt a day
no pump no flexan btw
i get bloodwork done every 2 months
>not only have i never had diabetes
oh but you will, here's your cult leader saying he got hypoglycemia after eating spinach kek
jimmy moore is a pedo lying obese grifter, aside from that, the fact that people become extremely carb sensitive after a long term fat adapted diet is well known. Within a short period after reintroducing carbs they go back to proessing them normally. It is not diabetes lmao.
Yep, if you don't eat carbs in a while, body gets rid of stored insulin since you don't seem to be needing it anymore. Once you eat carbs again, it takes a while to process the glucose, which is why glucose tolerance tests show bad results. But if you just keep eating carbs for a short while and test again, results normalize. Fat making you diabetic is just another vegan myth
you just need to take a piece of candy a day before the test to get normal results
You are being genocided and you think it's the sun and steak and oranges stressing you out hahahahahahaha
go carnivore if you want to be a male
Anyone on a fad diet is mentally and pshycial ill.
No one decideds to go on a fad diet while being healthy.
Its just a desperate attempt of an easy cure.
For example there's a huge difference between someone born a vegeratian and someone going on a vegetarian diet for health. The on doing it for health is almost always unhealthy mentally and physically
What's your diet?
>meat, fruit and honey
I swear bros just making up random combinations of foods at this point
>I swear bros just making up random combinations of foods at this point
There are literally the foods that would exist in nature and that our ancestors would eat before agriculture. If you think that this is a random combination, than you have absolutely no clue at all.
nothing destroy your skin more then sun
>5 years older
>looks 5 years older
What's the problem exactly?
Nah this white moron should've stayed out the sun.
I'm not reading this whole thread but the guy who hates moxyte (even though I don't know who that is) is based and anyone who uses words like "ketolard" or "ketoschizo" are schizophrenic and fat themselves. I'm going to assume the anti-moxyte man is arguing with a vegan chud, or moxyte him(?)self.
Seriously though, if I met someone in real life and they started talking about "ketolards" and "ketoschizos" I would leave the conversation as soon as possible. What a creep. I don't think keto is even that popular anymore.
It's over... Saladino won...
i wanna try carnivore and this thread convinced me to, but i have 3 quick questions.
1. How do i adapt to no carb-high fat without dying? Im peating atm
2. How do i have the energy to train without white rice
3. will i go bald?
answer these 3 and im starting today
>1. How do i adapt to no carb-high fat without dying? Im peating atm
Slowly over about 6-8 weeks. Gradually reduce your carbs over that time.
>2. How do i have the energy to train without white rice
With glycogen. The only difference is the rate at which it replenishes which is not relevant unless you intend to run long distances.
>3. will i go bald?
not related
>Slowly over about 6-8 weeks. Gradually reduce your carbs over that time.
Should i replace any meats im eating? my protein sources now are egg whites, chicken breasts x2 , cod fish , and why
i eat tons of carbs, like 8 slices of bread per day and 200g oats. should i start adding steak in or no?
>The only difference is the rate at which it replenishes which is not relevant unless you intend to run long distances.
what if i want to build muscle tho
>not related
why is sv3rige,rogan, peterson and many carni guys bald/baldin then?
Also is coffee allowed in carni?
>Should i replace any meats im eating? my protein sources now are egg whites, chicken breasts x2 , cod fish , and why
>i eat tons of carbs, like 8 slices of bread per day and 200g oats. should i start adding steak in or no?
Beef should eventually become your primary source of nutrition.
>what if i want to build muscle tho
During your adaptive phase, I would expect strength and stamina to go down. I personally am gaining muscle. Since going full carnivore and starting the gym back in December, all my lifts have gone from novice to proficient. I will add that I have been high fat diet for a decade, just not keto/carnivore, so I will have been quite fat-adapted
>Also is coffee allowed in carni?
to begin with.
I drink coffee, but ideally I shouldn't and neither should you.
>why is sv3rige,rogan, peterson and many carni guys bald/baldin then?
No idea, there are plenty of carnivores who are not bald aswell.
Do you mean carnivore or 'animal-based'? Even sv3rige eats animal based with fruits, juices, etc. Frank Tufano and of course Saladino both also eventually reintroduced plenty of carbs. Carnivore is just an elimination diet, is there an actual reason to try it in your case?
I wanna try it for overall health. I’m 30 and still have some diseases like asthma and anxiety and some dundruff on my hair. I think it’s diet related although I work stressful job.
What do?
>Frank Tufano and of course Saladino both also eventually reintroduced plenty of carbs.
Both ate too much liver and developed iron overload and elevated SHGB as a result. Every carnivore that stuck to muscle meat is still doing carnivore now.
>Every carnivore that stuck to muscle meat is still doing carnivore now.
Can you name a few? Also you mean they ONLY eat meat and nothing else?
Shawn Baker, Anthony Chafee, Bart Kay/
>Also you mean they ONLY eat meat and nothing else.
Specifically muscle meat with its fat plus any additional fat as required as the primary source of nutrition. No organs. Eggs are generally good. You could eat dairy if doesn't affect you. Some do, some don't. But mostly it is muscle meat and the fat of large ruminant animals.
cringiest diet ive ever seen
>Shawn Baker
roids and bald
>Anthony Chafee
roids
>Bart Kay
skinny fat grifter
kys
is this bait? he looks amazing for a 45 year old
for reference this is what he looked like as a young vegan