Does dutasteride let you avoid twinkdeath with few side effects, or is it a meme?
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Just shave it
wtf is nb?
I'm assuming non-binary.
Guess you can't pull it off looking like an Irish Monk
Narrator: "Non-binary, however, was not real."
Not Bald. As you can see, he is no longer NB.
Top zoz
lulz
fricking hell
Black person booty.
The trans and alphabet lobbies come up with acronyms to make their fetishes seem normal. Here are a few.
NB -non binary
AFAB/AMAB -assigned female/male at birth
“Enbie” -NB/non binary
HRT -permanent life altering chemicals injected to alter your body’s natural hormone chemistry
GRS -Gender reassignment surgery -surgical mutilation of your genitals
FFS -Facial feminization surgery -surgical mutilation of your face to make you appear more feminine but it never works.
SRS -sexual reassignment surgery -similar to GRS
MtF - male-to-female -clinically insane
FtM - female-to-male - clinically insane
Neovegana - the gash left between a man’s legs after he chops off his dick
There are more but I’ll leave you with those.
You really have done your research
Josh moon did nothing wrong.
Nix Bood
Nice Boobs
homie balls
So are we all just going to pretend this guy was ever good-looking? Going from a 4 to a 1 isn't really a radical nosedive.
He was at least a 6.
>a 6
lol no
By whose standards? Young straight women like prettyboys, and as a young man I think he was pretty attractive too.
not the other anon but if its by how much women can he get /10 and 5/10 is the average that guy would get way above average quantity of women,like 2-3 points above average 8/10
But going by looks rating he is more like a 5-6/10
He looks like some rent boy for music executives that would join a disney boy band
Him with hair would slay jailbaits on tinder. Now he's incel tier.
Yeah, that 2009 zack and cody tier look would attract girls in middle school maybe. If you're not a pedo that look wont get you very far
Many 16-19 year old women prefer prettyboys.
>average looking teenage boy attracts average looking teenage girls
>"alpha male" (aka middle-aged guy who's probably balding, probably over 20% bodyfat) coping ensues
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To high school girls who are into Ed Sheran or want to peg some bussy, he's probably hot.
I swear non nordic people are so delusional when it comes to what an attractive person look like.
Fair play, this is one of the fricking stupidest comments I've ever read. It's incredible that someone can write a coherent sentence but can be so comically braindead.
He would look fine if shaved his head, trimmed his beard, moisturized, got decent sleep and gave a confident smile instead of his thousand-yard-stare.
This isn't the sort of twinkdeath I was hoping to see.
pretty much, if you dont get on fin at the first signs then you are just asking to be part of the incel suicide statistic
Just go to turkey 2000$ and its fixed
1) you need to take the same drugs anyway after a transplant or else the rest of your hair keeps falling out and you get a really bad and bizarre looking head of hair where the front is there but everything behind it is gone
2) you don't have an infinite amount of follicles from the back of your head, so you can never fully recover with a transplant. This is why guys with transplants still typically have very high receded hairlines and very thin hair without any natural density. You still want to be on drugs at the first signs of hair loss in order to keep as much as you can from the beginning
>You still want to be on drugs at the first signs of hair loss in order to keep as much as you can from the beginning
Yeah my only regret from taking fin is I didn't start when I should've and waited for it to get bad. I still have hair but I'll likely need an expensive and annoying hair transplant at some point.
>i regret not castrating myself sooner
Go to Mexico it's $2000 for a top tier transplant, it's like the turkey of North America. My coworker did it and he went from incel looking to Chad tier with his new hair.
>You still want to be on drugs at the first signs of hair loss in order to keep as much as you can from the beginning
Or, maybe a bit more resource and sanity retaining method, you stop trying to attach to having a full head of hair and feel good about yourself regardless. Maybe the lack of stress will make you not lose as much hair.
Andrew Tate got a transplant, didn't use finasteride because he's a moron and now he's bald again. His brother does use finasteride after transplant and he has a full head of hair.
Also every white male actor uses fin you think Tom Cruise, Pitt, and Leo have perfect hairlines in their 50s by chanc?Just lol if you fell for the side effects FUD.
homie 2000 follicles in turkey will still run you 6k
what year are you living in
I'm taking this since June 2020. Daily.
No bad effects at all. Wife still complaints I want to have sex everyday.
t. 44yo lifter
Agree.
LMAO, this.
whats the advantage of dutasteride vs finasteride
As far as I know Dutasteride is more efficient blocking test (works on both reductase I and II). At the same time, test patients shown less side effects,.....although, like I said, I have not suffered from them until now.
Dut blocks 90%+ dht vs fin 70%+ .
Usually 0.5-1mg fin is enough to keep your hair
It reduces dht more than fin and works on 5ar 1 and 2. There's no real proof that it's more effective though and if you're prone to sides dut might be worse than fin. Do whatever you like but the best approach is just to start with 1mg daily of fin and adjust your dose from there based on your own experience.
>Wife still complaints I want to have sex everyday.
The average norwooding, longhoused basedlennial
>norwooding
Probably, but I been maintaining the same patter for the last 20 years.
I am just trying to insult you, no need to show your hairline.
You're playing Russian Roulette with your wiener and brain
Agreed
I agree, coping is better. It's just hard
Wigs are uncomfortable and stupid but you do what you want. I wear hats
That's your hair at 44 yo? Maybe I should start finasteride after all.
Mogger hair. You probably mog 99% of 40 year old men just by having hair and not being fat.
Look at that subtle dark brown coloring. The minoxidil thickness of it. Oh my God, he even has a hairline.
NTA but miring
44 is gen x moron
I was on Duta for about a year and a half. Actually grew back tons of hair. But I stopped taking because I do think I started to develop b***h breasts. That never went away. I don't have full blown gyno but there is definitely some extra fat on my pecs that I never noticed before. Maybe it's just genetics though.
haircels on suicide watch
>get on fin at the first signs
Was the best decision I ever made at 28. Read all the horror stories and was holding back for almost a year, eventually went frick it and hopped on 0.5mg a day. Shedding completely stopped, hairline started returning to normal, and never had any ED symptoms like I read about (turns out its more rare then IST would lead you to believe, and persistent ED sides after stopping is extremely rare). Only thing I've noticed is my cum is a little less thick than it used to be.
There was a massive study that found about 2% of people get sides and quitting fin made the sides go away for most of the 2%. My personal theory is people who get sides from fin have low T but the DHT was pushing their androgenic levels just above the point of having obvious side effects.
everyone knows those studies are bullshit
100% of guys get sides it's just a question of how bad they are and whether it's worth it to keep your hair for an extra 5-10 years
I agree with this about the long term sides. I was on fin fir 7 years and at the time it did give me some mild ed. I could still frick so I put up with it but it wasn't as easy to get hard and I wasn't as hard as I used to be. Probably took about 3 months for things to go back to normal after I stopped. No issues since.
This was me too but at 25. Had been noticing my hairline receding since I was 20 but it was barely noticeable to anyone else - more so to me when certain hairstyles didn't look as good as they used to.
Eventually, I got to a point where I said frick it, I'll try it out and at least be able to sleep knowing I gave it a shot. One of the best decisions I ever did for my mental health. My hair loss stabilized and even regrew a bit on fin alone.
5ish years later I'm starting to now see me slightly lose ground again at 31 but at this point it is what it is. I'm not hopping on Dut so this is it and I've made peace with it.
thats surprising, most studies ive seen like 80%+ maintain for at least 10 years . Hopefully its just a minor thinning
Agreed 100%. I should have started 3 years earlier. My semen sometimes has thick lumps in it which freaks some girls out during oral, otherwise it is just less white than it used to be.
Hol up…
American Association of dermatologists says 50-80 pieces of hair loss a day for Men is quite normal, when you say “shedding stopped entirely”, what do you mean?
When I shampooed my hair I would see hair all over my hands. I would see hair on my computer keyboard too. Both of those completely stopped when I started taking fin. I'm not talking about losing a strand here or there, that's completely normal.
This. I knew that I was genetically predisposed (my dad and both my grandfathers are bald), so I had researched it extensively even before I started noticing the first symptoms of balding. Started taking Fin at age 23. Now that I'm 34, I still have almost perfect hair. Never had any side effects, even fathered a child while on it (with another one on the way). Test levels are okay as well, even slightly increased after starting to take Fin (though this might be because I also lost a bit of fat during that time). I think that the vast majority of people who get ED simply suffer from placebo effect - they think that they'll get side effects, so they really start getting them.
Also, I find
s explanation very plausible. Yes, maybe Fin causes those side effects if you're hypogonadic. But then your course of action shouldn't be to not take fin, but to fix your hypogonadism (by losing weight, eating healthy, getting enough sleep etc, and if push comes to shove, by taking HCG).
>Source: Your ass
I'm on that stuff for 11 years and got zero side effects. There's not a single study or piece of evidence apart from anecdotal horror stories online to support those claims.
Yeah I don't believe in ED from medication. I'm on three medications (Fin, elvanse, atomoxetine) that supposedly give ED and I've got zero problems.
Did you manage to regrow some lost hairs in your temples?
My temples weren't the issue for me, I'm a diffuse thinner and was starting to see a little more scalp than I was comfortable seeing when I got my hair wet, also my hairline at the forehead was starting to look less defined. Turns out this is one of the better responding baldness patterns for finasteride to do its thing. If you have the smallest bit of temple recession you might be able to grow that back but you probably want minoxidil for that (don't take it so can't give any advice on this). Fin will only halt/slow your hairloss and if you caught it early your existing hair can grow back thicker and healthier but it won't revive dead follicles.
Thinning in the front is what's scaring me, but I'm in an odd situation where my bussy is goated (3+ hr long dry orgasms with aneros, and I can even do it without it in) and I don't want to frick up my prostate lmfao
You people are so fricked. Losing hair is the least of my goddamn worries. Grow the frick up already you can’t be a homosexual hair troony for the rest of your life and expect anything other than empty bliss of lookism.
Tl;dr off yourselves you bald sex freaks
>"You people are so fricked. Losing hair is the least of my goddamn worries. Grow the frick up already you can’t be a homosexual hair troony for the rest of your life and expect anything other than empty bliss of lookism.
Tl;dr off yourselves you bald sex freaks"
sorry you lost your hair, but how bout you frick off and stop trying to make other men as miserable as you slap head
>Losing hair is the least of my goddamn worries.
cope cope cope cope seethe cope
If you live in a first world country what the frick do you have going on that's sooooo important that you can't be bothered to spend $5 a month and take a pill every morning to preserves how you physically present to the world for the rest of your life?
When I first noticed the beginning of a receding hairline it rocked me to my core. It’s shocking when you see evidence of aging for the first time and balding sucks. I used to have long beautiful hair too chicks loved it
Now I have a receding hairline and general thinning. I rarely think about it but when I see a photo of myself from behind and see the thinning it still surprises me.
This
Imagine being so fricking insecure that you're afraid of some hairs falling out. Having hair won't fix your ugly ass faces, if you're afraid of that.
I have a head full of working hair and I used to shave my head for a long time just for the convenience. And yes, I have sex and outlift 99% of you.
Enjoy your permanent ED from finasteride, idiots XD
> i have a head full of working hair
then shut up you dumb Black person you dont understand hair loss then.
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>Having hair won't fix your ugly ass faces
I literally go from like a 5 to an 8 wit hair/stubble
I am 31 and have great hair. I look younger than I am.
I might have very slight receding towards temples, though I am genuinely unsure if my hair line always was that way. Unnoticeable unless I pull my hair all the way back and consciously focus on it.
Short of going full bald which isn't going to happen in my case, I honestly don't care if it changes slightly. Aging with grace and accepting it in stead of clinging on to some hedonistic desperate battle against the very nature of your existence is fricking moronic. But be my guest.
>Aging with grace and accepting it in stead of clinging on to some hedonistic desperate battle against the very nature of your existence is fricking moronic. But be my guest.
The Sisyphean endeavor of taking a $0.20 pill once a day.
Do not understand baldcel cope these days. I take a pill EOD and move on with my life with my hair. It takes zero effort, its not some desperate battle like they imply
Their masculinity is performative and not intrinsic, they need to put on these big blustering displays to prove their dick isn't tiny.
Let me guess, you guys are 5x boosted because it is 'just' a needle, right? Calling it just a 20 cent pill is blatant deflection from all potential side effects.
From Blur-era Damon Albarn to Van Gogh, kinda cool tbh
imagine not Van Gogh maxxing in the Year of Our Lord 2,023
Dunno if I agree with the first part, Damon still looked more masculine than him.
Looks like he works on a 19th century ship. Beards are terrible if your bald.
>Looks like he works on a 19th century ship
i thought he looked pathetic until you wrote that, looks pretty cool to me now
yeah he looks exactly like the kind of guy who'd work in some artspace in a converted warehouse in a former dockyard area (think Red Hook in brooklyn by all the barbecue places)
>From homosexual to Viking raider
And it completely free.
I'd rather be bald than be big pharma's life long b***h boy
Yikes! Transphobic much?
same
t. bald
This. I tried fin 10 years ago because of a woman even though I was fine with the idea of being bald. Made my balls ache frequently while I was taking it (~3 months) no idea what the frick that might have been doing to me
finasteride is a troony drug. I never heard of this shit for hair before I had heard of it as a hormone therapy. I'm convinced you all are getting internet psyoped by people who get boners at the thought of turning you into women. Really ponder the concept.
If I ever started going bald even a little bit I'm on the first flight to buzz city. I notice in the back I have a spot the size of a nickel where it spirals out from. Once that gets out of hand frick it straight zero all around
this would explain the insane amounts of shilling and outrage fueled posts for fin/dut on reddit
I'm just saying if you venture over to /lgbt/ you will find them talking about fin and not a single one ever mentions anything about hair
not true. they all take estrogen.
Trannies take a testosterone (not DHT) blocker and estrogen. Finasteride is waaay to weak for them.
>trannies
>joos
>cope masquerading as confidence and apathy
chud
yeah i get my drugs from india for a couple of bucks instead of through the pharma israelite system
bump
qrd?
If you cry over losing your hair and take drugs to fix it you're a woman.
Buy it from India for pennies on the dollar.
>option 1
>accept destiny and just cope with it
>be still able to live a very healthy and IST life
>option 2
>start taking fin
>kills your dick, balls and fertility in general
>lose natty card, will never be fully healthy anymore
>will start having bad health issues too early due to constant hard drug consumption
I mean it's your body and your life, do whatever the frick you want with it
Just don't come back crying when your body is trying to shut down, because you have been warned a thousand times about it before
This. Imagine thinking you can pump all kinds of drugs for your fricking HAIR and think your body wont be paying a price.
>brainlet unable to associate potential side effects from actual side effects
many such cases
Just go to roachland for new fur transplantatie if you really care
>Vaxxie cuck on his seven booster
or ascend this moronic binary and search on youtube 'Danny Roddy'. Yeah, no need to thank me
Reminder that DHT is literally the DICK hormone
If you had no DHT your DICK would never have grown
Suppressing DHT kills irreplaceable neurosteroids in your DICK
>Neurosteroids
>In you dick
Learn basic biology homie
DHT is only important to the dick during fetal development. Without enough the dick won't grow and the baby ends up looking female then turns into a male at puberty
Klinefelters, 5ARD, Partial Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, a number of different enzyme disorders, there's all kinds of things that lead to naturally low/no DHT and keep the men who have them twinkier longer, especially those with PAIS.
Left looks good to me for some reason
Reminds me of early 20th century mathematicians
Bald can be sexy, virile, mature, especially when the guy is young
As long as you keep your hair and you are healthy aging and looking older isnt necesarily bad for a man.
>As long as you keep your hair
Yeah but that's a big 'if'
Your posted example is a cartoon character.
Yes
Your brain on body dysmorphia
Yep
homie looks like dostoevsky
Love this pic cause you just know every twink/femboy will have to go throught the hashest reality check once they hit their 30s
lol seethe harder
It doesn't really make me feel better. Even when this guy
gets too old and ugly to get attention there will always be another equally insufferable homosexual to take his place.
Nah, losing your hair is part of it but ultimately twinkdeath is caused by testosterone. The only way to stay a twink is to get on estrogen injections and get keyhole surgery. Oh, and fricking wear sunscreen. Take care of your skin now or you will regret it later.
Is there no middle way without literally transitioning?
fin and sunscreen
You can delay twink death, but ultimately you cannot stop it without stopping testosterone. Just take care of your body and your skin, and have good genetics, and you’ll remain twinky for longer than most.
Yes, I’ve seen 40 year old twinks. You know what they all have in common? Intersex disorders. Testosterone causes you to become more masculine over time, this is pretty obvious.
>Intersex disorders.
What kind? Klinefelters?
Depends but yeah, some of them are klinefelters, some have some ovarian tissue and naturally looked like femboys their entire lives, etc.
>The only way to stay a twink
But that's the thing, you can't stay a twink. Have you ever seen a 40yo twink? Just be manly and embrace the change if you're not a homosexual
>if you're not a homosexual
And if you are?
become a top
I feel like if I ever went bald (definite possibility), I'd just shave it all off and wear a bunch of different high quality wigs. My hair is naturally curly, so I think it'd be fun to experiment with straight, wavy, long, short, etc style wigs.
Does anybody who actually goes bald think this way/do this?
Hair systems are rough, apparently it's awful dealing with the glue and shit and your scalp sweats and gets nasty and itchy underneath. It's a last resort if hair transplant is not possible since your hair is too far gone.
You homosexuals in these threads always make me laugh. I really have a hard time getting into the same headspace as you people.
> Started balding in my early 20s
> Didnt give a shit, and just shaved it pretty early
> Haven't given a shit since. In fact, I prefer it. Used to have fricking about having to 'style' my hair every day.
> In a LTR now, but was getting sex on the reg for many a thot for years. More than I could even count at this point.
> I definitely wouldn't consider taking ~~*drugs*~~ to try and reverse it. Especially not ones that can frick with your T-levels. Thats literally as moronic as roiders, and on-par with troony shit.
I know its cliché, but seriously, just shave your fricking head and get on with life. Y'all homies so obsessed with if a woman might not like you cause you're bald. Why would any confident well adjusted man give a frick?
Sometimes I think maybe its cause I'm older, but now I think about it, I had the same attitude at the time. Might just be a zoomer thing. Too much social media and shit has made men think like women?
Cope, the post.
Live is coping young nig
Most of them are dyel virgins from IST.
They consume fashion media and obsess over hair, imagining it's their ticket to pussy. Sadly they are beta homosexuals with 0 game and women smell that 2km away.
Being hyperhedonistic cunsoomers they will even inject hormone blockers to keep the dream of pussy alive.
Slaphead cope i see. You know it too deep down people look at you like a fricking nosferatu from vtmb
it's a chicken and egg situation
finsteride feminises your brain so once you are on it you start worrying about your appearance like a woman and it's impossible to stop
>I know its cliché, but seriously, just shave your fricking head and get on with life
Reddit tier advice. Unless you look like a male model then the quality of women you can get will nosedive by 80% from when you had hair. Andrew Tate and his brother look the same but only Tate gets roasted for his looks by women online because he's baldcel.
>Andrew Tate and his brother look the same but only Tate gets roasted for his looks by women online because he's baldcel.
>internet polemic anti-feminist guy with a big platform gets roasted by 40 year old single moms
>must be because he's bald
Also, if you don't think that literally EVERY SINGLE ONE of those women "roasting" him online wouldn't dive headfirst into his bed if they had the chance, then you're probably too young to be posting here.
kek, not a single person on earth apart from himself thinks that Tate is attractive. Baldness is only part of it, he also has a weak jaw, prey eyes and an egg-shaped skull. The only women who sleep with him are golddiggers and women who buy into the machismo shit, none of them find him genuinely attractive.
Tristian Tate would be a Norwood 4 without the transplant he paid $30,000 for.
If you "didn't give a shit" then you wouldn't even shave it.
You do in fact, give a shit, you are just coping and its sad and you have no hair and never will.
Why won't they just shave their pubes off and glue them to their heads?
Why wont they just spend $5 on finasteride and not post these tired screeds on IST IST about how insecure they aren't
Because pubes are free. That's why israelites have their hair they do.
This. Why not grow out the pedo horseshoe rather than shave it down if you "dont care"
Holy frick, you absolute moron. Not giving a shit about going bald does not mean not giving a shit about looking as good as you can manage. Which, if you're going bald, means shaving your head, because it looks kind of crappy if you let it grow out.
Oh, so all men are only allowed to care about their appearance in the very specific way that you say they can, got it, I'll stop taking dutasteride immediately and just go bald and get 5 points uglier because the bible says men have short hair or smthing
Coping baldcels here are insane, ask any woman and they love hair. You literally become significantly uglier without hair and get less attention from women. No 18-25 year old woman wants a baldcel beard coper, literally none. You will remind them of their 60 year old decrepit father's.
Especially if you act like their 60 year old decrepit father with the balding. Keep the light on in your soul, and they certainly won't hate you for it.
Noone is saying bald is preferable to lush hair. It is however preferable to killing your dick with troon medication. You think a woman will give you the time of day if your dick don't even work?
That monkey's paw trade that misuse of juice brings:
>You will be jacked, if that is the desire, to lure the women of status higher
>Yet for all is wrought, your dick shall hang, balls that shrink, with no fricking sought.
>ask any woman
Do you know how it is with men? Do they also prefer guys with full heads of hair, or is that less important than with women?
its the exact same, in fact dudes are more overt and are more likely to write "no bald men" as the first topic in their dating app profile because they will face less judgement. of course some subcultures may not mind balding men, like bears, but those are such a minority despite their fame that it equals in numbers the small subset of women who might "like" bald men.
You can simultaneously not give a shit about losing your hair and yet still want to look as good as you can. And in this situation: you might well shave your head.
What are the other options?
Surgical interventions are expensive and painful, which seems a bit much given that you don't give a shit.
Or you can take drugs, and it will probably work. But there's a non-zero risk of unappealing side effects, a risk you might be happy to take if you give a shit - but you don't. So Is this really a good tradeoff?
You personally should do what you like.
>a risk you might be happy to take if you give a shit - but you don't
lmao yes you do care Black person
everybody cares
you are coping. Men care about their hair just as much as women do, you're just not allowed to admit it.
>Too much social media and shit has made men think like women?
if you spend time with other men you notice most of them are receding/balding. if you consume (social) media most men have a full head of hair at 60. this is the same shit that has been making women unhappy for centuries
Honestly, this is a healthy mindset and definitely the optimal approach to hair loss. I'm on Fin but if I had this level of confidence I probably wouldn't be.
At the end of the day I wasn't ready to be bald in my 20s so I decided to do something about it. Now that I'm in my 30s, if drugs stopped working, I think I'd be able to say frick it a lot easier.
I've been blasting 500mg test for 10 years with finasteride.
I have a full beard and a full head of hair. Dick still works just fine.
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hot
Woke: just do cardio and drink water and fix your fashion uwu! :3
Broke: It is over, you have to take HRT and become a woman
Bespoke: Finasteride/Dutasteride, Tretinoin and Sunscreen, Eating beef liver and fish, Weekly antioxidant injections, Full body laser hair removal, 4 gallons of water a day, Gene editing to give yourself androgen insensitivity
No just get over your Peter pan syndrome
When my hair starts going I'm just shaving it all off idgaf
Why do all the norwood doomers post nothing but the worst hairstyles possible? No shit it looks horrible if you just let your greasy hair grow out unattended on the sides.
Right? He could have at least gone Heihachi mode or something
based kevin mann, i swear he mighta saved my future life
Cope, bald just looks worse. Hair is a sign of health, youth, and virility. Hairloss is a sign of aging and poor genetics.
How do I stop this from worsening?
I'm only 33
Finasteride, $5 a month to save your hair.
You’re not even a Norwood 1 you fricking chink Hispanic. The baldcels and the fincels on this board coping & also shilling aren’t dermatologists. See an actual doctor don’t post on IST IST where you will br recommended dutasteride suppositories
I only started shedding it at around 28-29. at which point I shaved it all off to get a preview of how I would look (didn't look too bad, though obviously some loser's going to go "lel baldcel cope XD.") I'm 30 and a half now and I still have a decent amount of hair but it's slow and steady. It's not that I want to look attractive, I'm autistic and even at Norwood -1 I still would not have a girlfriend nor would I want one since I'd just be a waste of time. My angst simply comes from a basic ingrained hatred of change and loss. But sometimes you just have to move on. I don't want to chance it with fin and what not because I still enjoy jerking off despite my aforementioned apathy towards relationships.
If your incel you don't need a sex drive.
I love getting horny more than having hair. I'm going to coomermax.
Strange question/theory I have, but do men with high test/dht early on have greater resistance, and therefore less loss later on in life?
>t. Early 20s with perfect hair but lots of body hair and facial acne
Also, are "chads" less likely or at least slower to lose it? I feel like the robust looking guys tend to be less likely to lose it early
It's really unknown. Because if DHT does really affect hair, why does the crown get the brunt and not the sides if they're the same cells? Traditionally balding used to be associated with high test because DHT is testosterone that's been converted to a new molecule so more test=more DHT. But there's quite a bit we don't know. We do know is that there were studies of the last generation of castratos (choirboys who were forced to be eunuchs before puberty so their voices wouldn't change) on their hair and it was very resistant but it still found ways to be shed. Also, the recent transgender boom has give many examples of FtMs experiencing hairline recession with the likely suspect of testosterone injections.
Interesting stuff. I lucked out with enough height and a robust enough face, which I think weakly correlates with less likelihood of premature hair loss. I also have a schizo theory that psychopaths are less likely to lose theirs, but I'm not willing to bundy Maxx just to keep a few extra strands on my head.
Would you recommend someone getting blood work done before trying fin (God forbid I have to anytime soon), so that they can have a better idea of what's healthy and safe for them? I also imagine someone with high t and dht would have less side effects if they took it.
I'm hoping those new hair treatments they're researching end up working well enough to replace the current model by the time I have to worry, I want to extend my youth by a few years to make up for lost time.
could lifting have saved his hairline?
i think stress is one of the biggest causes of hairloss and being a twink is stressful
>being a twink is stressful
Why don't you look at my hairline you twink.
If you're worried about your hair and worried about fin then get on min ans check out some of the new stuff like pyrilutamide.
Holy shit hair is life
Without hair you have no life
I don't have a life with it. Without it I also don't have a life.
do you permatwink guys actually get fricked by the dudes that groomed you into this mental illness?
what is the pay off for you?
I wish someone groomed me that way I wouldn’t be a virgin
you don't need to permatwink to get homosex. just go on grindr, post a current selfie and say you have never been fricked.
you don't need to permatwink to get heterosex. you need to find opportunities to meet women and go do that.
permatwinking is just the middle of a psy-op to make you into a discord troony.
so if that sounds good to you then you can cut out the middle man right now and just me a troony.
>you need to find opportunities to meet women and go do that
Like what?
>you need to find opportunities to meet women and go do that.
bet you won't elaborate
>that hand size
Let me guess, drawn by a woman?
I am a twink in my 30s and I refuse to have sex. I will stay a virgin forever
A university has proved that rosemary extract works better than minoxidil 2% in a 6-month study. No changes for either minoxidil or rosemary at the 3-month mark, that's not how hair growth products work. They work to remove the dihydrogen testosterone crystallized at the root of your hair follicle and it takes many months for it to be gone enough so that your hair can grow again.
> TLDR Rosemary and peppermint oil regrow your hair better than minoxidil and with less itching
Please post info
So cite the study then you fricking mong
I have rosemary oil, but don't you need to dilute it?
funny someone mentions this. I have a related anecdote.
> thought I was mpd for the last few years (I'm 32 now)
> it was at least very slow, might have called myself a norwood 2
> start doing amphetamines some days of the week (concerta or dextro)
> hmm that itchiness I've had my whole life seems way worse those days
> eventually it gets _BAD_. I have a real flair up of something that becomes a fungal infection on my chest / arms / crotch / scalp
> turns out this whole time I've had seborrheic dermatitis
> try a bunch of things to fix it, thing that worked perfectly was MCT oil with a bit of peppermint oil added to it, maybe 5% of less. I just rub a few drops between my hands in the shower and put it where it needs to go. Sometimes I'll go heavier on the scalp if it's been bugging me. If I use too much I can always wash it out the next day.
> life-long scalp itchiness gone
> turns out I wasn't slowly balding, just years of unknown seb derm had the same effect on my hairline.
> only been 6 months since I figured this all out but I'm almost back at norwood 0
Sharing because I'm sure there's others out there that just have undiagnosed seb derm. It can be hard to get diagnosed especially if it's a pretty mild case. A thing of MCT oil and peppermint oil is like $20 or $30 for the good organic hippie shit. It's worth it just as a skin care thing. Also you can use the pepp oil to keep spiders away. Don't use it undiluted though, it hurts.
> mpd
I meant mpb. Male pattern baldness.
I had recession in my hairline since I was 19 and didn't get on fin because muh dick. Went through an extremely stressful time last year and my temples receded to at least a NW3 with thinning going even further back. I hopped on fin, albeit late, and hopefully can keep the hair I have. I'll look like shit bald. Maybe I'll get a hairtransplant when I get the money.
Any side effects?
He looks like a Russian writer from 1860. Not a horrible look, honestly
The only thing I regret about taking fin is not starting earlier when my temples started receding
BILLIONS MUST AGE!!1!
Le revolution and consequence chad
>muh dick muh dick
whatever I don't have sex and don't talk to women, would much rather keep my hair
>Men age like fine w-ACK
I think the bad rep for fin and treatment is just because people wait too long. You NEED to get on this shit before you even get to NW2 ideally. People are in denial about hairloss way too long until it gets out of control.
jesus i feel like this thread has been up for the past 3 days buts its only been a day and a half what the frick
The massive amount of cope from baldcels in a single thread combined the the refraction of light off their heads is creating a space time distortion.
so if we got a bunch of baldcels together, time would stop?
As long as there are men balding, there will be men crying about it. With advances in medical science, more effective treatments with less side effects may even hit the shelves in a few years barring disaster so they're crying over nothing.
>Clascoterone is an antiandrogen, or antagonist of the androgen receptor (AR), the biological target of androgens such as testosterone and dihydrotestosterone.[4][5] It shows minimal systemic absorption when applied to skin.[3]
Interesting.
Does hair retention medication even matter when your hair-related genes are shit?
Both my grandpas went bald in their early to late 20's, with very rapid hair loss. My dad's been norwood'ing for as long as I've been alive but his hair still looks the same it did 10 years ago, maybe a bit grayer.
How would you know if your hair genes are good or bad? I have nw0 in early twenties and I think I take after my mother’s side on it.
My father is in his 50s and has the widows peak and crown basically bald, but mothers father is like 70 and he, weirdly enough, has his hairline at what it should be for a much younger man, but bald all around the crown. He’s also hairy as frick. I think my body hair is closer to my dads though
when it doesn't recede.
It'd be weird if I took after grandad and only lost the hair on the crown but never the hairline itself. What hair he does have left is fairly thick. I'm hoping I'm one of the lucky 1 in almost 10, or at least into my mid 30s, based on what I've seen of people in my race. My uncle on mom's side got it relatively early I think, but who knows. I might even have the bones and skull to pull off buzzed short, but I'd rather have luscious locks.
This is why I never make fun of bald dudes, even in my head, bc I know how bad I could've gotten fricked even now. I'm hoping these new treatments improve and that we can get a cure in the future, both for myself and frens that got axed by the reaper. Do you at least have a robust face, fren?
grills have rated me an 8 and called me cute handsome etc but im ashamed to admit ive got a lot more twinkish appeal than outright robust facially which is why i should deal with this hair loss fast, im no jason statham. society's fricked, my dad had me coming along at my age if i had a gf i got preggers already i could maybe see myself not caring but i havent even kissu a girl yet i cant afford to have the reaper claim me so early not in this day and age. im worried about side effects on my dick and whatnot but its not like im fricking anyone anyway.
Brutal. I got lucky with more robust features relatively speaking, which I think works better for hair loss, god forbid it ever happens anytime soon.
For what it’s worth, I prayed today for God to help mankind in its fight against the Norwood reaper, for guys my age who are losing it to stabilize or receive new treatments that cure it, and for the existing solutions to give minimal sides, for the disease to be cured. I remember this guy in college who was like 20 and had the Norwood infinity going on, it was horrid.
Bad = any recession before 25
Average = recession late 20s/30s
blessed = never any recession
Only about 8% of men never lose hair. I had a perfect hairline up till about 26/27 then started thinning slightly. Got on fin asap.
>Only about 8% of men never lose hair.
It's over.
Huge difference between starting to lose hair in your 40/50's
Or going bald in your 20's.
No. All the borderline trans hormones help keep it for a few years but the scythe will still cut it eventually.
Take a look at your uncles and dad. My uncles on my mother's side all got norwooded hard except for one who still is at NW2-3. My dad's family has a similar story. Dad started losing it heavily when he was 40.
frick it. im noticing receding and you frickers have got me scared you homosexuals won with your constant fear monger threads goddammit. im going to hop on fin i will 100% admit noticing my hairline receding and shit is fricking me mentally and i dont want to be one of those waiting too late im only fricking 21 and a virgin anyway with no hope of gf in sight so i might as well.
A wise choice. Future you with a qt gf is thanking you dearly. Just think, in another timeline youd be norwood 7, either in jail for pedo activity, or suicide.
it just fricking sucks i never expected to be one of the unlucky fricks to be going through this at such a young age. I'd be fine balding in my 30s and 40s because I'd be settled down with a waifu by then hopefully but its suicide at 21 and i cant keep coping. my mom and fren keeps telling me its not that bad or just my skull shape but im literally norwood 3 on the left temple so i wont wait any longer. im praying the side effects wont be too terrible and that i at least get some hair restoration too.
>Wish these threads had started 5 years sooner
i kept telling myself its all shill campaigns but i cant deny the receding im experiencing so i'll bite the bullet, never thought balding would frick me up so much mentally, with how shit my life already is losing my hair might legitimately make me anhero as well its too much salt on the wound.
Wish these threads had started 5 years sooner so I could have saved my hair
I started when I was 22. Best fricking decision I ever made.
Sides literally don't exist bro, get on fin NOW or better yet, dut.
>tranime
>want others on trans hormones
>be troon
>want to look like a female
>develop male pattern baldness
>99.9% of female do not have male pattern baldness
>get on dutasteride as a stop-gap measure until the doctor will frick you up with real anti androgens
>stop taking dutasteride after getting your hands on literally any other kind of anti androgen because dutasteride does literally nothing besides stop hair loss
The only thing lower than your iq is your hair count.
better a cueball than a troon
Pictured: a troon who used dutasteride for 10 years
Better a cueball than a troon only famous because they play pretend in front of cameras.
I think you're missing the point
How is dutasteride for trannies if the result of 10 YEARS of therapy is having a full beard and completely masculinized face and body? Do you know what HRT is supposed to do moron?
>full beard
>masculinized face
Yeah, that patchy as frick neckbeard tier stubble and wiener sucking lips sure are the epitome of test.
You are a funny moron
And you will never be a woman
I will also never be bald, unlike you.
Please refer to
At least troons have potential to be frickable
this. trannies are trying to embody beauty. baldies discouraging others from taking fin are orcs ugly inside and outside dragging others down with themselves.
Lol everyone hates how troony’s look and smell. That is crazy to say. Only trannies think that because it is the only way for them to cope with looking so uncanny
trannies all you can think about?
Na but being something you will never be is something 100% you think about
Honestly stop talking to people, you want people on troon drugs. You are a straight up groomer. I’d tell you to kys, but I’d worry you’d do it
They are the culmination of modernist thinking; that mankind can surpass nature. That he can changes his gender and stay the Reaper's blade.
Another baldcel crab trying to bring people down to your miserable baldness, shame on you
post face, body, and hairline we will compare how masculine you are to 10 yr dut taking ashton kutcher
The fincels are correct here. Ashton Kutcher used a poweful DHT blocker in his early adulthood to more or less prevent any further hairline recession. It worked objectively.
reminder that women would rather go for transwomen than baldcels. Even baldcels who take fin and got a hair transplant.
I’m 28 and Norwood 2 probably but you can only notice it when my hairs pulled back. Been on fin for a little over 2 years. Thinking of adding minox to see if I can get density back but idk minox and its effects on the heart are scarier than fin to me but I think I’ve been fear mongered. Gonna try the pills 2.5 mg eventually. Pic related is pulled back hair
Here is my hair when not pulled back kek glad I take fin tbh
looks more like a nw 1.5, not enough recession for a 2. Smart move getting ahead of it. Too many guys just wait until it gets out of control.
Your Juvenile hairline was a norwood 0 and you’re moving up to a norwood 1. You chuds are lucky as I was basically born at norwood 2.
Wow
>wahh why do i have to age i can't handle loss save me hormones
Should have taken HRT.
troony here, duta or fin alone won't affect your dicks. It only affects DHT, and not testosterone itself. And even uf it still wouldn't cause ED. I have testosterone in female range and my dick still works when I want it to. The only difference is now I don't get morning wood or random boners.
Don't listen to old blad unfrickable gays and take fin while you're still young.
You have no idea what DHT does or is for.
Work on improving in other ways, maybe try microneedling and minoxidil. DO NOT USE FINASTERIDE.
Enjoy having broke dick and broke brain
you haven’t took it have you? and let me guess, you’re also bald?
Taking advice from the mentally ill who want to groom you to be effeminate and destroy your hormonal system, how fitting for this site
You will never ever be a woman
>First hand experience that proves my point wrong
>"Thanks for proving my point, troon!!!
They say nobody wants to go bald, but I disagree, the /misc/chuds obviously WANT to go bald, there's no other way to explain the false reality they have spun in their head that denies literally everybodies first hand experience, scientific evidence, and basic logic.
I can't believe this thread is still up.
It started last Friday for frick sake.
Agree, usually FIN threads die within hours. It’s funny to still see my hairline pic posted on Friday afternoon.
I usually comb it over and make it stay in place with hairspray. But every time there is wind I get really self conscious. Should I just shave it? I'm not balding, this is unironically my hairline since I was 18, I'm 28 now.
I hate it, I have no money for a hair transplant, maybe I should save up because I love having hair..
finasteride and minoxidil, and nizoral, then you could at least have the sophisticated jude law look, worst case scenario, just stop, but at least try first anon
You are balding dude I hate to tell you but just try it all and see
Don't get on minoxidil it causes skin aging
I’ve heard a few people say this and others say it’s bullshit… which is true?
It's true. I rubbed it in with my fingers and my fingers all have wrinkles now, also new wrinkles on my forehead. Stopped instantly when I looked it up and it can cause inhibition of collagen production.
It's bullshit
The standard minoxidil mixture contains lots of alcohol so it drys the shit out of your skin.
That's where the "loss of collagen" comes from.
It's not the collagen, it's the fact that you dry the shit out of your skin.
Just eat basedmilk, pumpkin seeds, and a quarter of a jalapeno a day.
Is hair really that important?How much would being bald affect vid related men in their prime?
You know why 2/3 of men are bald? Because bald men bang
Checkmate twink
I'm honestly so scared of balding, but I'm also scared of side effects like loss of libido and erections. Maybe it's because I'm a bisexual man, but I think that while most male features can be attractive (wider shoulders, muscles, facial hair), losing hair always makes a man look worse.
Tried fin it gave me some sleep apnea kind of shit and i stopped.
Bald future it is i tried atleast... or maybe try topical?
There will never be a cure and you don't get sex anyway. You might as well take it.
You guys are really pathetic. I can't imagine being so desperate to keep my hair that I am willing to take hormone-altering drugs to keep it.
Literally every famous actor is on fin you moronic baldcel. Millions of people use it for both hairloss prevention and boomers use it for prostate size reduction with no side effects.
So defensive, just like a woman. Pathetic
You can't expect these people to listen to reason
What makes someone look good with clear hair loss? Always felt Tony Ferguson looked cool as frick despite the widow's peak.
strong facial features that make up for it. still add hair to any of them and they will look better
what's the easiest way for an amerifat with health insurance to get fin? no primary care doctor to hit up
hims.com, or go to a derm and ask for it
thanks. I'm going to a derm in a few weeks anyway (my partner said I should get a mole looked at). I'll add this to the consult
Lemonaid. 25$ for a prescription all online. Ask them in chat to send it to a cheap pharm near you
no phonecalls?
nah, just send a bunch of pics of ur balding head and hairline, asked them to send the prescription to cosco (its cheap there), and bam had it in ~48 hrs
medicalwellnesscenter, get dut.
Isn't is a bad thing to block test tho?
No. Take the cure. It's the only way to save what your mama gave you