because you need to do rear-delt and side lat work in order to have noticeably big shoulders. rear delt flies and/or facepulls on back day and dumbell/cable side raises on chest day. pay attention to form because side lats are tricky to engage and you will improve the appearance of your shoulders greatly
Gymnasts start skinny as shit and bulking isn't in their vocabulary, their joints and tendons are getting more gains than them and everything they do is technique there really isn't any muscling your way on anything they do.
Wtf? I’ve been going controlled reps from my pecs all the way to full arms outstretched above me, that and my grip is looking closer than it should be, figured I should be able to do more than 8 reps of 125
literally just do incline chest press. there is 100% no reason to do OHP when incline focuses on a larger muscle while still stimulating the front delt. this is why we see morons with massive front delts while the rest of their shoulders are completely undeveloped. if you do OHP you deserve the injury you are guaranteed
>you don't need to focus at all on front delts
This is a relic from roided lifting due to disproportionate androgen receptor densities.
Yes, if you're a S/B/D+OHP only tard your medial and rear delts are going to lag because you are literally not training them outside of a half assed 3x8 a week you call "accessories", if even that. >t. added in front raises on top of benching and OHP, direct carry over to both
It’s a lift not that you do to increase in strength but a progress checking exercise that you come back to after years of development to see how much you can lift. Been lifting for since 18, 34 now and tried to OHP just recently again and lifted 100kg
do it behind the neck + lateral raises ( with lower weight, but full rom all the way up above your head + slow eccentric on the halfway point).
You will cook the front and side delts. >inb4 snap city
just lower the weight until youre comfortable dont be a cowboy.
>lower the weight so much because actually going anywhere with the movement will frick you up
Sounds like your shoulder mobility and muscular balance is favoring mid and rear delts. You gotta hit front delts just as often as you do a shitload of facepulls.
>Sounds like your shoulder mobility and muscular balance is favoring mid and rear delts. You gotta
I dont "gotta" anything. At what point did your stpid ass presuppose that tat the exercises i mentioned are the only things i do for delts, hmmmmmm????My post was directed to the OP conundrum of why the OHP seems to do nothing, which assumes overall deltoid growth hence my suggestion of exercises for delts which the front ohp does not cover. You took this opportunity to present ypurself as equally smart as me (you are not) and hijack on my success. u are inferior gypsy b***h, gay gypsy b***h
I agree. I worked up to a 95kg standing overhead press but my shoulders were still small.
High rep rear delt flies and lateral raises did more for my shoulders than this compound lift
Try wide gripe you triceps monsters
I did 38kg for 8 reps on seated dumbbell press too and still small shoulders 🙁
because you need to do rear-delt and side lat work in order to have noticeably big shoulders. rear delt flies and/or facepulls on back day and dumbell/cable side raises on chest day. pay attention to form because side lats are tricky to engage and you will improve the appearance of your shoulders greatly
Try seated barbell and do it with a wider grip.
The narrower your grip the more triceps and less shoulder you use.
*lb
Yup. The deltoids are best trained in the lower part of their rom.
https://themusclephd.com/range-of-motion-and-growth/
your half rep push press doesnt count as 95kg ohp
>mogs you
powerlifting gay, opinion discarded
>powerlifting
that's an olympic weightlifter, you moron.
no, YOU are a powerlifting gay. nobody cares about your ogre olympian
that wasn't powerlifting anon this is the opposite of that crap
Him looking better than you when it's not even his primary goal just rubs in that point further.
These have done everything for my body but my front delts. Is it only me?
Hey kid... Want big shoulders?
>hey kiddo, nice rotator cuff you had
>had
Nothing personnel kiddo heh
Gymnasts start skinny as shit and bulking isn't in their vocabulary, their joints and tendons are getting more gains than them and everything they do is technique there really isn't any muscling your way on anything they do.
Literally shoulders are meant to be trained with high volume and triples at the lowest rep ranges.
>thinks people with horse scapula can experience rotator cuff injury
I have rotator cuff muscles larger than most people's biceps.
You're doing a standing incline bench because your abs aren't strong enough. Try wide grip regular thumb or regular grip thumbless.
You should barely be going lower than your eye level.
>barely lower than eye level
Wtf? I’ve been going controlled reps from my pecs all the way to full arms outstretched above me, that and my grip is looking closer than it should be, figured I should be able to do more than 8 reps of 125
literally just do incline chest press. there is 100% no reason to do OHP when incline focuses on a larger muscle while still stimulating the front delt. this is why we see morons with massive front delts while the rest of their shoulders are completely undeveloped. if you do OHP you deserve the injury you are guaranteed
>you don't need to focus at all on front delts
This is a relic from roided lifting due to disproportionate androgen receptor densities.
Yes, if you're a S/B/D+OHP only tard your medial and rear delts are going to lag because you are literally not training them outside of a half assed 3x8 a week you call "accessories", if even that.
>t. added in front raises on top of benching and OHP, direct carry over to both
I'm sorry but how is Incline Bench better for developed shoulders? Wouldn't it target your front delts even more than OHP does?
It’s a lift not that you do to increase in strength but a progress checking exercise that you come back to after years of development to see how much you can lift. Been lifting for since 18, 34 now and tried to OHP just recently again and lifted 100kg
do it behind the neck + lateral raises ( with lower weight, but full rom all the way up above your head + slow eccentric on the halfway point).
You will cook the front and side delts.
>inb4 snap city
just lower the weight until youre comfortable dont be a cowboy.
>lower the weight so much because actually going anywhere with the movement will frick you up
Sounds like your shoulder mobility and muscular balance is favoring mid and rear delts. You gotta hit front delts just as often as you do a shitload of facepulls.
>Sounds like your shoulder mobility and muscular balance is favoring mid and rear delts. You gotta
I dont "gotta" anything. At what point did your stpid ass presuppose that tat the exercises i mentioned are the only things i do for delts, hmmmmmm????My post was directed to the OP conundrum of why the OHP seems to do nothing, which assumes overall deltoid growth hence my suggestion of exercises for delts which the front ohp does not cover. You took this opportunity to present ypurself as equally smart as me (you are not) and hijack on my success. u are inferior gypsy b***h, gay gypsy b***h
why the frick it feels great only after some time off
>t. 95lb ohp
>does front delt movement
>why aren't my side delta growing?
ngmi
1. cut the range of motion at the top so you dont use your triceps
2. do it sitting so you can't cheat at all
Don't care, it just feels good to do
>my natty status questioned
>"y-your delts!"
Everytime. Plus I enjoy the lift.
Is it efficent? No and I don't care.
Spam lateral raises.
This machine good replacement for lateral raises? I feel like i'm isolating my side delts way more with this
I disagree.