probably. Opioids are notorious for that. But if you want to know for certain you should have had your test levels checked multiple times before and after going on, not asking the fitness board on a hentai sharing website.
you can't say that when it's barely been studied. I was taking a low dose and got some pretty nasty withdrawals.
most CNS depressants affect the HPTA in some way, slowing it down as well. so yes it will lower testosterone levels.
the day after or day after that you will go just go back to normal though. maybe the long term metabolites have some cumulative effect? not sure but i would doubt its even noticeable at once a week
I can only assume anybody who decides to start using this shit didn't have a single person in their formative years who loved them, because if they did that person would have urged them to stay away from drugs.
>didn't have a single person in their formative years who loved them, because if they did that person would have urged them to stay away from drugs.
Yes and im a drug addict
heroin is high because of pollution, STD and infection risk with IV. if you take the molecule by itself, it actually has a very good safety profile when it comes to long-term physical risk. save for some hormonal and cognitive effects. which is to be expected when you're sedated 24/7. ethanol is much harsher on the body, even in low dosages
hypothetically, if you were to take diamorphine once or twice a week, with guaranteed purity, you would'nt damage your health at all. the problem, of course, is that no one can just take heroin once or twice a week for long
Opiods trap everyone who sticks around too long, for some people too long is one go.
I had a friend who used infrequently for a decade, then one day he just started slipping hard. Within 2 months he was homeless, dead a month later.
Them pills are psychological warfare
i take 1g before and after workout. seems to do the trick for me. i used to take it heavily because i was addicted to tramadol and it gave similar effects but have since just been using it as a ped
That's not occasional anon, that's recreational and far too often. Anything more than once a fortnight will raise your tolerance and put you at risk of addiction.
I'm on 32mg of suboxone daily and my natty test was still above 600 as a 34yo but I hopped on roids and now my natty test levels are over 6000 on a gram of test a week and 350mg of tren ace a week.
No cap. But i wasn't on as long as you, only about 4 months on subs from quitting heroin and being clean and getting on roids. Yes all opiates will lower your test.
crazy. I'm like on 4mg, which is not much, but my test levels are abyssal. I'm contemplating hopping on TRT or a low dose of T because I can't even make gains like this to be honest
man, I should've never messed with those dillies. now I have grandpa test in my 20s
it's not only in the gym, I feel it in my mind and soul. like a weight that's always there. you're right, I should just hop on. like 250/300mg of T should do fine no?
probably. Opioids are notorious for that. But if you want to know for certain you should have had your test levels checked multiple times before and after going on, not asking the fitness board on a hentai sharing website.
you can't say that when it's barely been studied. I was taking a low dose and got some pretty nasty withdrawals.
Kratom isn't technically an opioid since it's not derived from the poppy plant; it's actually closer to the coffee plant iirc, but it does agonize the opioid receptors so considering that the side effects probably aren't far off.
Like with any drug if you use long/frequent enough a tolerance will build.
When I came off (cold turkey) I got some gnarly stomach pains (like read opioid withdrawals) and some pretty bad rebound anxiety. Oh and also, when I was on I also noticed delayed ejaculation on the days I dosed, I alternated every other day. I never got any empirical test but I do think something fuckey was going on with my hormones.
that's nothing like a real full agonist opiate withdrawal. kratom is pretty chill to kick to be honest. I mean it's still horrible, but a droplet compared to the tsunami of shit that is kicking H or fent
the worst thing I ever kicked is poppy seed tea, which sounds pretty innocuous at first glance, but it was three weeks of unrelenting hell. the theory is because PST contains all six alkaloids you withdraw from them all at the same time
the high itself lasts incredibly long too. I would make my tea, drink it, play some games will it kicks in, nod out in my couch, wake up still high and go for a run. I'd stay high untill midday sometimes. good times
How did you get withdrawals without using it every day? I’ve only ever gotten “withdrawals” when I took like 3g every day for a week, and even then it was just some anxiety (still sucked though). How much were you taking?
not him, bu the more you take it, the faster you become physically addicted. once you've been addicted for a few weeks/months, stop, than start again, it only takes like a day or two to become hooked again
You are altering your brain wiring immensely.
Source?
Also op opioids are retarded. Atleast use kratom (which is also retarded). You will eventually take more and more.
But if u managed to actually take it once a week it won't affect gains at all
not him but you've never heard addiction rewires your brain?
>Source?
https://www.pursuecare.com/opioids-and-the-brain/
If you want a deeper dive:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2851054/
This, just take high dose kratom, virtually no risks and close enough to the real thing
probably. Opioids are notorious for that. But if you want to know for certain you should have had your test levels checked multiple times before and after going on, not asking the fitness board on a hentai sharing website.
you can't say that when it's barely been studied. I was taking a low dose and got some pretty nasty withdrawals.
It cancelled out if you lift heavy
ive been using tramadol once a week for a while with no issues on top of valium and weed
Quit questioning and stop using opioids anon.
How to ruin your life 101
Opioids are just another garden gnome tricks to enslave whites. Quit.
Once a week is by definition not occasional
For opioids, once a week is very occasional.
most CNS depressants affect the HPTA in some way, slowing it down as well. so yes it will lower testosterone levels.
the day after or day after that you will go just go back to normal though. maybe the long term metabolites have some cumulative effect? not sure but i would doubt its even noticeable at once a week
good luck staying occasional retard
hope pedro measured the fentanyl right
No fentanyl and those are dutch made research chemicals
Any research chems in the USA?
Kraut here
Those are very small pellets and it's not a strong opioid
Many times weaker than fentanyl
what opies are there?
personally I'm a fan of the dillies
O-DSMT on the left
Right is 3-FPM (stimulant)
Oh boy! What could go wrong?
You're a dumbass and I hope you overdose
at some point the unpleasant effects become worse and it's just no longer enjoyable
I quit after 3 years of occasional use (once or twice a month)
I don't know but drugs are for gays
I can only assume anybody who decides to start using this shit didn't have a single person in their formative years who loved them, because if they did that person would have urged them to stay away from drugs.
everyone uses drugs though. the succesful even more than the losers. I work as corporate lawyer and coke, amphs and opioids are ubiquitous
>didn't have a single person in their formative years who loved them, because if they did that person would have urged them to stay away from drugs.
Yes and im a drug addict
Based if you're not a hypocrite who drinks alcohol.
Cringe if you do drink alcohol, because you're doing even more damage to your brain and body than the opiate junkies
heroin is high because of pollution, STD and infection risk with IV. if you take the molecule by itself, it actually has a very good safety profile when it comes to long-term physical risk. save for some hormonal and cognitive effects. which is to be expected when you're sedated 24/7. ethanol is much harsher on the body, even in low dosages
hypothetically, if you were to take diamorphine once or twice a week, with guaranteed purity, you would'nt damage your health at all. the problem, of course, is that no one can just take heroin once or twice a week for long
>t. Big Mushroom
>weed and tobacco equally harmful to other people as to yourself
>meth barely harmful to other people
Chart discarded.
Taking opioids orally is a waste either shoot it or don't bother.
Opiods trap everyone who sticks around too long, for some people too long is one go.
I had a friend who used infrequently for a decade, then one day he just started slipping hard. Within 2 months he was homeless, dead a month later.
Them pills are psychological warfare
I'll trade you test for percocets, then we both win
Yes
Anyone have experiences with kratom?
i take 1g before and after workout. seems to do the trick for me. i used to take it heavily because i was addicted to tramadol and it gave similar effects but have since just been using it as a ped
Opioids are gnomish poison.
Stop taking them immediately
im dominican
Im somewhat of a retard myself
Then you're a shabbos goy.
You will still end up in the oven.
me no black papi
Low testosterone is going to be the least of your worries retard
>tfw used to crush up morphine xr tablets and get fucked up
I am shocked I never OD'd, don't do this shit.
That's not occasional anon, that's recreational and far too often. Anything more than once a fortnight will raise your tolerance and put you at risk of addiction.
I'm on 32mg of suboxone daily and my natty test was still above 600 as a 34yo but I hopped on roids and now my natty test levels are over 6000 on a gram of test a week and 350mg of tren ace a week.
are you capping? how long were you on subs? mine was double digits after two+ years
No cap. But i wasn't on as long as you, only about 4 months on subs from quitting heroin and being clean and getting on roids. Yes all opiates will lower your test.
crazy. I'm like on 4mg, which is not much, but my test levels are abyssal. I'm contemplating hopping on TRT or a low dose of T because I can't even make gains like this to be honest
Do it. Most suboxone doctors still prescribe test because of that reason alone
man, I should've never messed with those dillies. now I have grandpa test in my 20s
it's not only in the gym, I feel it in my mind and soul. like a weight that's always there. you're right, I should just hop on. like 250/300mg of T should do fine no?
Yes
Not occasional but occasional always turns into frequent in which case it will completely tank your endocrine system. Trust me I've seen it.
Can kratom do that? I've been addicted and trying to stop but get real depressed when I stop
not him, I'm
Kratom isn't technically an opioid since it's not derived from the poppy plant; it's actually closer to the coffee plant iirc, but it does agonize the opioid receptors so considering that the side effects probably aren't far off.
Like with any drug if you use long/frequent enough a tolerance will build.
When I came off (cold turkey) I got some gnarly stomach pains (like read opioid withdrawals) and some pretty bad rebound anxiety. Oh and also, when I was on I also noticed delayed ejaculation on the days I dosed, I alternated every other day. I never got any empirical test but I do think something fuckey was going on with my hormones.
that's nothing like a real full agonist opiate withdrawal. kratom is pretty chill to kick to be honest. I mean it's still horrible, but a droplet compared to the tsunami of shit that is kicking H or fent
oh yeah most definitely I was just saying there were similarities, not trying to conflate the two as identical.
the worst thing I ever kicked is poppy seed tea, which sounds pretty innocuous at first glance, but it was three weeks of unrelenting hell. the theory is because PST contains all six alkaloids you withdraw from them all at the same time
the high itself lasts incredibly long too. I would make my tea, drink it, play some games will it kicks in, nod out in my couch, wake up still high and go for a run. I'd stay high untill midday sometimes. good times
How did you get withdrawals without using it every day? I’ve only ever gotten “withdrawals” when I took like 3g every day for a week, and even then it was just some anxiety (still sucked though). How much were you taking?
not him, bu the more you take it, the faster you become physically addicted. once you've been addicted for a few weeks/months, stop, than start again, it only takes like a day or two to become hooked again
If your looking for a reason to stop fucking you life up then yes.