>Needs to be told how to do nothing and think about nothing in a quite place
I know you guys are moronic and on a bunch of amphetamines your mom for your prescribed when you were a kid.. but come on man... How can you frick this one up?
I just sit, breathe in, out, in out for a few minutes, sit with my eyes close and feel my body and mind. Just being and "seeing" what comes to mind, like is there something bothering me, something I should do now, today, this week.
Its nothing fancy for me at least, basically its just sitting with my eyes closed but in modern ADHD ZOOM ZOOM world even 10 minutes of just sitting in silence without your phone is hard for many.
When I went to school I lived in a big dorm, also went out to bars and clubs every single weekend, I got to know a lot of guys between 18-30 yo, and out of these "normies" 90% never or almost never got laid.
It was always a few tall good looking guys who were smashing the hottest girls, the rest of dudes were left with gaming and porn
>the rest of dudes were left with gaming and porn
If they used their time to go to the gym and practice a music instrument they could easily get an average looking girlfriend by the end of college. It's all about developing a personality.
Nah dude just go outside I mean duh it's easier when you are attractive but that's the thing you are a MAN, no matter what the world is going for how progressive the woman is, it is your thing to be doing things not your beauty, that's why "go outside" is the answer.
>Everything in life is face and height
Only branch of life where face and height matters is if you want to become a model or Hollywood actor. Height only matters in sports and not even in all sports, maybe also in military as well as police force. Everywhere else it's intelligence and overall personality which trumps all.
Oh and even intelligence has diminishing returns. Malcom Gladwell the big talent scientist wrote about this that an IQ above 115 does not bring any bigger benefits and people above it aren't usually more successful, often the contrary.
If you really want optimal outcomes in life then just be a little bit above average in every category and then PUT IN THE WORK.
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No, the average person does not have any discipline. Don't forget that grocery stores sell plenty of healthy food, and you can spend a few hours per week cooking and exercising, but our obesity rate is high and climbing.
I recall seeing an image here that categorized people by ranges of IQ, and the low/mid 100s (maybe like 120-140) was some kind of misery where you're smart enough to see that everything's fricked but not smart enough to either fix things or just disconnect entirely. It's very real.
The average person is so mentally weak that they accept working for employers who abuse them for pennies, they follow the herd even when it's against their own family's interests, they stay in lifelong relationships with someone they hate because breaking up would require confrontation.
Let's face it, the 'elite' are right about normies. It's a pity that they're such disgusting irredeemable monsters.
I hate to see how low the average is, but I keep being reminded. I feel like I'm coming to the same conclusion about them, but I'm trying to figure out how we can actually help people directly instead of just siphoning off of them to fund useful causes.
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>the low/mid 100s (maybe like 120-140) was some kind of misery
I'm pretty fricking moronic, but this accurately describes my life experience. I can't disconnect, but everything people believe around me is either false or lies piled on lies piled on lies. How do you deal with this shit? I feel like I'm a moron surrounded by people even more moronic than I am.
5 months ago
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malcolm gladwell is a journalist not le science
5 months ago
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No moron. Think about it for half a second. If you’re smarter you are more likely to be successful
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>an IQ above 115 does not bring any bigger benefits
this is largely because IQ is negatively correlated with depression. so there are a lot of intelligent depressed people that ultimately don't do anything
ever been to a mensa meeting? me neither, but i have heard it's basically a bunch of intelligent dropouts that turned into borderline junkies
if you have high IQ, keep yourself clean and psychologically healthy, and have a high drive to work and stay busy, you are in a very well-performing demographic
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This. At least 80% of the gifted people I know ended up being NEET.
>Everything in life is face and height >There are no short or ugly men who have been successful at anything ever
You choose failure and come to places like this to spread your poison.
Literally every single pussy slayer I have ever known personally in my own life has been a mallet. Cope and seethe. You're just not manly enough to attract the opposite sex
Frick off homosexual with your arbitrary moronic "quotas" that need to be filled before getting a girlfriend. The fact is that for most normies, girlfriends just HAPPEN to them. They don't dedicate years of their life self improving so they can get any human affection. I went to music school for 10 years, was trained in violin and piano, ive been lifting since i started high school. None of this has ever come up or helped me with others. You are just a moron who tries to attribute his ""hard work"" to what is essentially pure goddamn luck. Go around ans ask normies how they got their girlfriends. 90% it will be by random chance or they knew each other since childhood. 0% will be "oh he started going to the gym and that made my pussy soooo wet". Come on.
See? Playing the violin and lifting has no impact then moron. You will just infinitely shift the goalpost instead of admitting it's all just luck.
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It sounds like you don't even like playing the violin or lifting. People want to be around passion and not misery.
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I play daily, and have been for 13 years, and lifting for 8. This must mean i hate it. Lol. Besides, it makes absolutely no impact in any situation, since the most you'll get out of it is a single sentence when meeting someone for the first time. "What are your hobbies?" "Well, i read, go to the gym, run, do BJJ, and i play the guitar, violin and piano" "oh wow, that's great!" I don't understand why you think playing an instrument has any impact on something as luck based as finding a girlfriend is. People DO NOT CARE
5 months ago
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>What are your hobbies?
Nobody asks this. The reason why you don't have a girlfriend is because you have autism and never go outside.
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Are you moronic? This is basic stuff everyone asks everyone. "Where you from?" "What college you go to?" "Do anything fun outside of classes?" <--this is the "do you have any hobbies?" question
Stop projecting your social ineptitude onto me. It's insane how someone like you who thinks thar people never ask each other about hobbies got a girlfriend. Pure dumb luck, as i said.
5 months ago
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Okay so you are ugly and short then, got it. Maybe get better genetics to increase your luck.
5 months ago
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Reminding you that you said "you just need a personality bro, go lift and learn an instrument". Which part of my personality is my height?
5 months ago
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You need a personality if you are average looking and average height, we were talking about normies. If you are ugly and short you are not even human.
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>passion
Girls most definitely DO NOT want their men to be passionate about their shit. Yeah, she might like the IDEA of you playing the violin, but not all the sacrifices that come with being serious about it. She'd rather have you be a sucky bedroom hobbyist than a killer weekend warrior who moonlights with a world-renowned ensemble.
It's all about signaling, really. All she needs is a sprinkle of pixie dust, then she will turn it into ammo to brag with when she's around the gurrls. She doesn't want to carry a 30-lb Romanian anti-tank mine in her purse and will actually resent you for it. A hand grenade will do, but pixie dust is more than enough.
That's the one thing that surprised me about the guys who go out 3 times a week is that they barely get laid, usually 2 or 3 times a semester if they were good. I always thought going out was a guaranteed way to get laid unless you were a total sperg.
This
Try doing life being permadeficient in micronutrients like literally EVERY SINGLE NORMIE, like check this shit out not even kidding,search x defiency with anything (magnessium,potassium,some vitamin) and the % of deficient people is like 75-90% lol
This stops the brain from working properly,the muscles,motivation,depression,metabolism,cancer,etc...
We are priviliged to be so high IQ we landed on the fitness lifestyle literally 5%ers
I'm 19, started college this year, and i can assuredly tell you that zpomers are NOT alright. In my former high school class there were 20 guys. Each and every one of those guys including me graduated as a virgin without ever touching a girl, going on a date, flirting, etc. In my generation there were about 120 guys. Of those i only know of 4 or 5 guys who got girlfriends. Now in college, sure it may be because it's a STEM course with almost no women, but out of 80 something guys, only 3 or 4 have girlfriends, the rest are kissless virgins like me.
Was this normal 20-30 years ago? My mom says it's not and that my generation is weird.
I walk 2+ miles per day, and bike 6-10. I just don't go around begging for attention for it.
kek, what they dont know is that I know they know and I write them on my list
This guy gets it, kek.
This demoralization shit made me go to therapy. Even if they are. Even if it's all true and your wildest nightmares are reflective of reality and none of them want to frick you because of it. Would you no longer want to lift and play piano?
If not, why? Do you not value the health benefits? The improved concentration? The muscles? The stamina? What about the piano? Are you only trying to impress people with it? Not to focus and meditate? Not to express yourself?
If you are just doing it in the hopes of making randos horny, it's not necessarily a moral stain on your character. It's just an ephemeral effect that you can't really control and the pursuit of it is going to give you unending frustration. If that's not your cup of tea you might want to consider training 3 times a day something else that you get more personal satisfaction from.
You do it for yourself, not for the attention from randos.
This response perfectly illustrates why everyone on this board is convinced you need steroids to get any muscle. Everyone is so jaded and beaten down, they can't fathom the idea that other people actually take the time to improve their bodies and minds rather than just consoooooming. Half of this board has never stepped foot in a gym, I'm fully convinced of that by now.
It doesn't matter what half this board has done, or not done.
This response perfectly illustrates why everyone on this board is convinced you need steroids to get any muscle. Everyone is so jaded and beaten down, they can't fathom the idea that other people actually take the time to improve their bodies and minds rather than just consoooooming. Half of this board has never stepped foot in a gym, I'm fully convinced of that by now.
>Everyone is so jaded and beaten down,
This is a place for losers. It's why we're stuck here. People that have their shit figured out aren't wasting time here. Even /cbt/ the only place anyone posts any evidence they're actually IST is full of toxic mental health issues.
I got back on IST a few months ago after realizing my /k/ hobbies are to expensive and I'm saving for a move. But I've been on 4chin for around 12 years now. I hadn't been on IST for several years and it's the same stale memes and demoralization threads it was back then. Misc is the same way. You Black folk never moved on and one day you'll be old and decrepit posting the same "is coffee good for you??" threads on this shit hole.
This demoralization shit made me go to therapy. Even if they are. Even if it's all true and your wildest nightmares are reflective of reality and none of them want to frick you because of it. Would you no longer want to lift and play piano?
If not, why? Do you not value the health benefits? The improved concentration? The muscles? The stamina? What about the piano? Are you only trying to impress people with it? Not to focus and meditate? Not to express yourself?
If you are just doing it in the hopes of making randos horny, it's not necessarily a moral stain on your character. It's just an ephemeral effect that you can't really control and the pursuit of it is going to give you unending frustration. If that's not your cup of tea you might want to consider training 3 times a day something else that you get more personal satisfaction from.
This, OP is an attention seeker and this is not the first time he made the same thread
I'm sorry for the normalgays who have to put up with his insufferable personality irl
My experience with women is that they generally just lay in bed watching reruns on Netflix until it's time to order food or go on a date. I think most men just drink themselves to sleep after work.
>My experience with women is that they generally just lay in bed watching reruns on Netflix until it's time to order food or go on a date
Yeah this is fairly accurate, most single women don't do shit, the whole "getting plowed every night" is incels projecting their fantasies onto the internet
Anon my experience is from plowing then while the office or whatever stupid shit plays in the background... But outside of getting plowed, social media and eating food yeah I don't really think they do anything
Not even fat landwhales want men under 5'11
Yeah, 5'11 twinks and higher
5'10" and zero problem with women. My face and dick game is solid though so dunno. I even fricked a 6'1" Amazonian chick this year but she was a nurse so it hardly counts they frick like three dudes a week to cope with their depression
I haven't had to date since 2009. I just post as if I've experienced any of the perceived hellscape to see if it rings true with its begrudging participants.
Most accurate take ITT. Stop overly idealizing and fantasizing over other people's lives. Most of us go home, sit on the couch or bed and watch TV/internet, eat and go to bed. Men or women. The most disciplined of us can squeeze in maybe 5-10 hours of extra activities . That's all there is to eat. The rest of us are all sedentary AF, just purely consuming things, content, food...
Except that most girls never go two weeks without sex, if they don't have a boyfriend or aren't out at a party hooking up they still have 1 or 2 FWBs they can call over to frick.
If you genuinely suck at the piano then consider quitting. Playing a music instrument is very intuitive, you should be able to pick it up within a few weeks. It's literally the only thing where innate talent is required to learn it.
Nah I'd rather keep at it. I play it for fun and I do have fun regardless of how hard it is. I can see that I improved over time and I don't care if I have to chip at it for the next god knows how many years, it's this and books until I die and I still have a while to go unfortunately.
The average person is so mentally weak that they accept working for employers who abuse them for pennies, they follow the herd even when it's against their own family's interests, they stay in lifelong relationships with someone they hate because breaking up would require confrontation.
Let's face it, the 'elite' are right about normies. It's a pity that they're such disgusting irredeemable monsters.
Once you realize how weak the average normie is, you can easily just bully your way to whatever you want. If you don't believe me, just cut in line and watch people grumble but nobody confronts you.
The average normiegays doesn't even know jackshit about nutrition and live a hedonistic lifestyle and you think the goycattle is capable of getting their shit together lel lmao even this is literally their mindset (non-exhaustive list): >Work hard == Earn more $$ >Enjoy life!! Life is short!! Have fun on the weekends >YOLO!!! Why spend so much time at the gym and count calories?? >Have plenty of sex bro only virgins care about STDs >Drink beer bro cmon bro >Try this vape bro >Cmon anon lets go to have fun at X bro (wasting time)
I see it as participation in the rat race. Working "hard" means that you could take an extra 10-20k per annum. That's not enough to escape the wagecuck cycle of slaving for Goldberg for 50 years.
The "let loose on weekends" trope is the same issue.
>>Work hard == Earn more $$
I mean, yeah, life requires money unfortunately, try focusing your effort into eventually making money without effort
life!! Life is short!! Have fun on the weekends
Also yes, you should try to enjoy life and have fun whenever possible, if you don't, that's no life worth living >>YOLO!!! Why spend so much time at the gym and count calories??
You can splurge a little while still maintaining health and fitness >>Have plenty of sex bro only virgins care about STDs
True, but most people care about being clean, virgin STD cope runs real deep tho
beer bro cmon bro
Personal choice, no one is forcing you and if you don't like being around people you try to force you, than find sober people, they exist >>Try this vape bro
See above, but even less people vape >>Cmon anon lets go to have fun at X bro (wasting time)
Yes? Maybe if you spent more time accepting invites to fun places with your friends you wouldn't be posting "coping loner opinion #4,254,369,4587,254" on IST right now kek
>OP posted asking why normies lack discipline and I explained the normie mindset >I responded in to explain the normie mindset >normie Black person homosexuals get assmad at me pointing out the things that make them NGMI in discipline
I didn't imply that one should just be a fricking monk or something but that there were too many blissful ignorant shit that normies have that made them lack discipline
homie I have a real job and a wife and I manage to lift 4 days a week and make music daily. It's all gonna be over the moment I get a child though lmao
Yeah, the second you unfrick your spermcount and get a little ugly fricker that looks like you to crawl out of your wife's snatch, you're done with music for a long ass time.
I work two jobs (one is a real job, the other is just being in the reserves), work out in the mornings before work, and there is straight up no time left in the day for music after that. Unless you don't want to see your kids like a Black person.
Oof that's tough but I've heard from my friends things get much easier once they start going to elementary school (homeschooling is not an option here and both me and my wife are spergs)
not that anon but never having kids
who cares? really what's the point?
You either get it or you don't, I could reply with some shit from the Bible but this is the ultimate truth.
Normies are impressed when you don’t eat a couple of donuts when someone bring them into work, even more if you follow a diet and exercise routine. I wouldn’t use the word impressed though, more like freaked out, scared or even intimidated
Bro I’ll be honest with you. I have a lot of experience in sales and with building human relations. If I see a guy who I even SUSPECT of lifting, I’ll throw them a tidal wave of praise/compliments (even though I lift 2/3/3/5). Why do I do it? So I get free fricking brownie points down the road. That’s it. I’m not fricking impressed with your 190 lb skinny fat 205 lb benching ass. I’m being polite. I don’t lose anything throwing a disingenuous compliment to a stranger. Especially when they may be able to help me in the future.
people are impressed by anything they consider difficult
personally I can't imagine willingly practicing piano every day for one hour, I learned it in my teens and I hated it. But when you like it it's totally different.
I realized recently, in my efforts to become more productive and more disciplined, that we have 16 hours in a day. If the average person works 8 hours 5 days a week, throw in 3 hours for commuting, that leaves them with 5 hours to get shit done. Assuming no kids, the average person can easily find 3 1 hour slots a week to lift, can easily get 1/4-5 of those hours to a hobby/skill (18 minutes a day makes a difference), and still cook and clean and do anything else they have to.
If you’re sane you’ll do bigger chores like cleaning the bathroom once every 1-2 weeks and just make the effort to spot clean after you’re done using it (not pissing all over the floor). That means that they have 3 hours left over to do what they please. 3 hours could be used to unwind from work and get ready for bed. There’s no excuse.
3-5 hours can be used every Saturday on their day off to do any chores.
Most people do not sleep a full 8 hours, about 6 is the average, SO really the average person has a full 5 hours where they can do nothing at all and still be very productive. Even if you have to commute for 5 hours (there and back) for work, you would still have time to lift 1 hour three times a week and do all you have to do.
3x a week is all most people need, I’m not saying that to argue about what’s optimal. ANY time is optimal considering the average person does not lift.
Someone aged 30 could do all this, hold a job, lift and attain fitness goals, have a few hours to put towards a business, AND have time to go on a date each weekend.
>throw in 3 hours for commuting
stopped reading right there. Not gonna listen to whatever bs you're gonna spout after thag
I’m not that anon btw but he’s correct and it’s actually goofy that you got heated over him mentioning having to leave your home, your problem is clear as day. You’re too lazy to read some lines, the second you saw “having to drive up to 3 hours for the entire day” you, whether you realize it, thought “yup that’s justification to not continue and to remain in my neet comfort zone”
Lol stay lazy please pussy boy
>Just work yourself to the bone, goy
Not even saying you're completely wrong, but we shouldn't be normalizing this amount of toil; human beings aren't built for it, and it's not even necessary for the functioning of society, between bullshit jobs and inefficiencies in the system. Yeah, of course you should be as productive as possible for practical reasons, but let's not act like it's normal to need stimulants in order to not become excruciatingly poor or homeless.
Oh dude I wholeheartedly agree with you. It IS absolutely bullshit. This way of life is still relatively new. >live in congested cities on top of thousands of other people
We’re supposed to be in small groups, 50-a few hundred people max. >all the comfortable shit like electricity and cars and AC
Yeah these are nice luxuries but we’re not meant to have this shit, we’re still just apes, animals. The AC wouldn’t even be much an issue because we would have (and develop if we returned) a natural tolerance to shit weather, somewhat anyways. >JOBS
We’re not meant to fricking give up 80% of our life to work for the interest of another person who doesn’t even give a shit about us lmfao. >sedentary
We have to go out of our way to take care of and exercise our body. We sit way too much. We’re supposed to walk like 10 miles a day minimum (over 20k steps), do some sprinting here and there, use our bodies all day.
I can keep going on and on but yeah, I agree dude this shit isn’t normal. I was only detailing how despite these circumstances one can make the most of their time since we don’t have much choice unelss we’re okay becoming homeless.
Oh dude I wholeheartedly agree with you. It IS absolutely bullshit. This way of life is still relatively new. >live in congested cities on top of thousands of other people
We’re supposed to be in small groups, 50-a few hundred people max. >all the comfortable shit like electricity and cars and AC
Yeah these are nice luxuries but we’re not meant to have this shit, we’re still just apes, animals. The AC wouldn’t even be much an issue because we would have (and develop if we returned) a natural tolerance to shit weather, somewhat anyways. >JOBS
We’re not meant to fricking give up 80% of our life to work for the interest of another person who doesn’t even give a shit about us lmfao. >sedentary
We have to go out of our way to take care of and exercise our body. We sit way too much. We’re supposed to walk like 10 miles a day minimum (over 20k steps), do some sprinting here and there, use our bodies all day.
I can keep going on and on but yeah, I agree dude this shit isn’t normal. I was only detailing how despite these circumstances one can make the most of their time since we don’t have much choice unelss we’re okay becoming homeless.
In an ideal world it would look like this >wake up, shit, cold plunge in river >spend 1 hour feeding the animals and checking on things around your homestead >spend next 3 hours tending to crops >spend next few hours doing any chores or work that needs to be done >relax in the woods on your land, maybe hunt some game, maybe stop by to trade with nearest neighbors who live 0.5-1 mile away or give them free supplies of whatever you have excess of, work on hobbies >night routine to tend to animals, final check of your place to make sure everything’s in order/taking inventory of supplies such as firewood and produce
Something along those lines where the work we do, and our time, is spent for ourself. We directly benefit from it. None of this having to drive minimum an hour away to go to work for 8-10 hours then double that otw back.
Maintaining relationships with maybe 100 people max. Just self sustenance. No bills, no taxes.
And there isn’t even a reason to have to g o without some of the comfort shit like electricity and AC to have that.
But that’s not possible. Property tax for example. Even if you acquire land to live that way, to homestead, you still need an income to pay property tax because the land isn’t actually yours. Our way of life is fricked. Granted I value to comfortable aspects of it, like modern medicine, but we’re not meant to live this way and have to formulate some overworked to the bone daily regime to get shit done and still use what little free time we have for personal things. It should be more like half the day AT MOST is spent working 100% for our own sustenance, and the rest of the day we have freedoms to do whatever the frick we want.
this was literally my bro's life for most of 2021. just add a 22-y-o qt 3.14 whose grandad owned the land.
he gave it all away because he's used to the hustle and bustle of the city and missed his Black person kids and Black person ex-wife, even though the kids stayed with him for a few weeks TWICE.
Dude it's all pointless, lifting, playing piano, working, self improving, going out with friends, everything. You will never make it and you will never live the life you thought you would live.
The younger generations are realizing early how fricked they are compared to the older gens.
Things weren't like this ten years ago, but they are now and they will only get worse.
What is with people feeling like they have to point copypastas out? wow you guys have street cred and have seen it before... let other people enjoy it, you don't look cool for spending lots of time on IST and knowing the "ropes".
Wow, I wish I was you. You probably talk to people about Catcher in the Rye and To Kill a Mockingbird and other highschool literature and think you are so fricking intelligent and deep. You aren't. You are a homosexual that has to ruin the fun for everyone else with the premise that if everyone is as unhappy as you, life has meaning and will get better.
But no one can be as unhappy as you, because you wallow in a shit and self-pity filled ditch that you dug out with your own mouth you fat fricking loser. Hey guys, I'll tell you how this movie ended... no that I actually saw it with friends in public, rather I downloaded it and saw it in my dank fricking basement with tinfoil blocking out the windows so I don't have to see the real world reflecting on my monitor as I see how much gold I can mine or something as equally time-wasting and asinine.
Yet you still think you are superior. I bet you also sage threads and feel like the god damn enforcer of the internet. Well you know what buddy, you can have your tiny, fictitious internet niche while I choose to live and enjoy the company of others.
You are what is wrong with IST, the internet, the world, and the existence of matter and we all see you for what you are you fricking dipshit homosexual butthole. Why do you even have a cell phone? NO ONE CALLS YOU.
No. We literally have to put kids in prison to teach them trigonometry, whereas the ancients learned it for >fun.
The average normalgay is like a flesh automaton running 8_to_5.exe, except installing that shit took 10+ years of institutionalization. They might have "dreams" (more often just wishful thinking) but they have absolutely NO DRIVE or command over their basal desires.
Musical ability is very useful. It changes the way your brain works. It's part of the reason medical schools will deliberately recruit from music majors. That and it's also cathartic and can bring joy to yourself and people around you
They are impressed because they dont like going to the gym, so you are doing something that for them would require conscious effort. Its not a fair comparison. Like I love training because Im an incel. I go to the gym 6-7x a week and I want sometimes to go twice a day. I dont take pride in it, I dont have any discipline, Im a frickin loser. Going to the gym doesnt require discipline if its something you want to do.
Thats like saying that going to the bar and having sex takes discipline. No dude normies fricking do it all the time, they love it. It doesnt take discipline to go and play golf if you like golf. You are just so fricking socially inept that you cannot even grasp something so obvious and thats why you are so surprised. They probably have more discipline than you.
>always noodling on guitar at my office desk instead of working >maybe 3 hours total throughout day >old man comes by >you have got to be one of the most dedicated, hardworking people I’ve ever seen >tell him nah it’s more like a drug addiction and nervous habit >he’s just so impressed
Most people are out of touch with what it means to have hobbies that it amazes them when you do anything beyond watching TV
The average person? Yeah that's accurate. The average man and woman in the west is obese, so they lack the discipline to stop stuffing calories in their pie holes. This isn't even a deep conversation with lots of ins and outs, that's it right there. They lack discipline.
I have a friend who has no discipline at all. Whenever she eats she over eats to the point where her stomach hurts. She can't study something or learn by herself and refuses to try and fix it. Constantly skips the gym and doesn't make any attempt to create or stick to a schedule. She's nearly 30 and I have no idea how she can lack these skills.
Idk if its discipline or homies ain't breathing rite , they be breathing thru they mouth when exercising or some eve do it all the time
Check out buteyko. When your control pause incr3ases, there is a zone where u naturally can't wait to ex3rcise. I'm close to around th3re somewhere
U gotta breath good u got 2 much oxagen
I am impressed at your ability to humblebrag your normie hobbies! wow, 1 hour a day piano, you must be the new chopin! wow you GO to the GYM THREE times in ONE WEEK?! Holy FRICKING SHIT MAN CAN I READ YOUR AUTOBIOGRAPHY?!
I was surprised how easy it was to put on some muscle and look decent. All I do is just workout an hour a day and eat clean food, which is what the human body should be doing anyway. My coworkers act like I'm some super disciplined monk for doing so.
I had a chest day yesterday with friend and went to mcdonalds afterwards. Still recovering from shoulder dislocation I had 2 months ago and when I was in Mcdees I had to just stretch my chest and shoulder a bit because it was hurting me. Couple of guys saw me stretching and did the same afterwards. This is the best compliment I had in a while.
I think it's a few things
1. People are in terrible health and doctors refuse to offer real help, instead offer drugs. Most people need more D, magnesium, zinc, most people have poor gut health, and refuse to exercise or even to stretch. So naturally they get worse and worse. And with poor gut health comes malabsorption of vitamins so they just suffer. And eventually some (like me) develop serious issues such as SIBO and genuine full fledged vitamin deficiencies and a whole slew of terrible issues.
2. People are soft as hell nowadays. And they're taught what little energy they have needs to be directed to "hard work" aka wageslaving. They're raised and taught through the government school systems that competition of any kind and masculinity of any kind is toxic and should be avoided. The schools were made to suppress men, and to suppress free thought and intellect. Only to raise wageslaves hellbent on consoomerism.
I guess that's more than 2 points but you get what I'm getting at. It's a lot of things, so many you can't really condense it all. People are lacking in humanity and lacking in health. So society as a whole is suffering. So much that spending hours on Instagram every day and watching tv with a bag of chips for the rest of your night is a "normal" thing to do. Don't even get me started on the porn epidemic.
i've noticed most people think they need to wait for the right time for things. They think they get better by waiting to not feel sick/sore anymore instead of building strength and stretching out. They think they dont have time to do things so they wait for it to free up instead of starting the things and forcing themselves to manage it better. Combined with young normies thinking anything that anything that causes stress is psychologically harmful (as in the stress of not eating shit food all the time or sleeping the day away) and boomer normies thinking that any sort of attempt at improvement is a waste of time and you get mass amounts of people that refuse to make changes or do anything that requires effort.
>Does the average person not have ANY discipline?
HEY. It took a LOT of effort for the government and corporations to get the populace this easy to manipulate. A century of government schools and almost as long of non-stop propaganda and secret mind control experiments. Lower your tone.
I'd much rather bet that most people undersell the amount of exercise they do unless they are pro athletes because it makes them come off as less of a tryhard and also women love natural muscle a lot better than gym muscle.
Could it be that OP is just too autistic to know that you aren't supposed to really talk about the amount and intensity of your routine outside of the circle of your gym bros?
I meditate 15 min every day, play guitar 20 min every day, work out 3 times per week and people lose their shit.
No, the average man wastes 15 hours and 30 minutes out of the 16 hours he has every day.
I gotta keep this shit in mind more, thanks for the reminder, fren.
how do you guys meditate ? like what's the blueprint/rules to follow to really get an iron mind?
>Needs to be told how to do nothing and think about nothing in a quite place
I know you guys are moronic and on a bunch of amphetamines your mom for your prescribed when you were a kid.. but come on man... How can you frick this one up?
take shot of gin, lay on a comfy couch and let your mind wander as you listen to this:
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I just sit, breathe in, out, in out for a few minutes, sit with my eyes close and feel my body and mind. Just being and "seeing" what comes to mind, like is there something bothering me, something I should do now, today, this week.
Its nothing fancy for me at least, basically its just sitting with my eyes closed but in modern ADHD ZOOM ZOOM world even 10 minutes of just sitting in silence without your phone is hard for many.
normies only drink, do drugs and have sex with b***hes.
When I went to school I lived in a big dorm, also went out to bars and clubs every single weekend, I got to know a lot of guys between 18-30 yo, and out of these "normies" 90% never or almost never got laid.
It was always a few tall good looking guys who were smashing the hottest girls, the rest of dudes were left with gaming and porn
>the rest of dudes were left with gaming and porn
If they used their time to go to the gym and practice a music instrument they could easily get an average looking girlfriend by the end of college. It's all about developing a personality.
Personality is cope. It’s all face and height. Everything in life is face and height
Nah dude just go outside I mean duh it's easier when you are attractive but that's the thing you are a MAN, no matter what the world is going for how progressive the woman is, it is your thing to be doing things not your beauty, that's why "go outside" is the answer.
>Everything in life is face and height
Only branch of life where face and height matters is if you want to become a model or Hollywood actor. Height only matters in sports and not even in all sports, maybe also in military as well as police force. Everywhere else it's intelligence and overall personality which trumps all.
Oh and even intelligence has diminishing returns. Malcom Gladwell the big talent scientist wrote about this that an IQ above 115 does not bring any bigger benefits and people above it aren't usually more successful, often the contrary.
If you really want optimal outcomes in life then just be a little bit above average in every category and then PUT IN THE WORK.
No, the average person does not have any discipline. Don't forget that grocery stores sell plenty of healthy food, and you can spend a few hours per week cooking and exercising, but our obesity rate is high and climbing.
I recall seeing an image here that categorized people by ranges of IQ, and the low/mid 100s (maybe like 120-140) was some kind of misery where you're smart enough to see that everything's fricked but not smart enough to either fix things or just disconnect entirely. It's very real.
I hate to see how low the average is, but I keep being reminded. I feel like I'm coming to the same conclusion about them, but I'm trying to figure out how we can actually help people directly instead of just siphoning off of them to fund useful causes.
>the low/mid 100s (maybe like 120-140) was some kind of misery
I'm pretty fricking moronic, but this accurately describes my life experience. I can't disconnect, but everything people believe around me is either false or lies piled on lies piled on lies. How do you deal with this shit? I feel like I'm a moron surrounded by people even more moronic than I am.
malcolm gladwell is a journalist not le science
No moron. Think about it for half a second. If you’re smarter you are more likely to be successful
>an IQ above 115 does not bring any bigger benefits
this is largely because IQ is negatively correlated with depression. so there are a lot of intelligent depressed people that ultimately don't do anything
ever been to a mensa meeting? me neither, but i have heard it's basically a bunch of intelligent dropouts that turned into borderline junkies
if you have high IQ, keep yourself clean and psychologically healthy, and have a high drive to work and stay busy, you are in a very well-performing demographic
This. At least 80% of the gifted people I know ended up being NEET.
>Everything in life is face and height
>There are no short or ugly men who have been successful at anything ever
You choose failure and come to places like this to spread your poison.
Literally every single pussy slayer I have ever known personally in my own life has been a mallet. Cope and seethe. You're just not manly enough to attract the opposite sex
>mallet
manlet
>getting Chad's sloppy seconds, thirds, tenths = puss slayer
Totally not manlet lies, homosexual mobile poster.
Frick off homosexual with your arbitrary moronic "quotas" that need to be filled before getting a girlfriend. The fact is that for most normies, girlfriends just HAPPEN to them. They don't dedicate years of their life self improving so they can get any human affection. I went to music school for 10 years, was trained in violin and piano, ive been lifting since i started high school. None of this has ever come up or helped me with others. You are just a moron who tries to attribute his ""hard work"" to what is essentially pure goddamn luck. Go around ans ask normies how they got their girlfriends. 90% it will be by random chance or they knew each other since childhood. 0% will be "oh he started going to the gym and that made my pussy soooo wet". Come on.
Yeah, you sound like a nice person to be around.
See? Playing the violin and lifting has no impact then moron. You will just infinitely shift the goalpost instead of admitting it's all just luck.
It sounds like you don't even like playing the violin or lifting. People want to be around passion and not misery.
I play daily, and have been for 13 years, and lifting for 8. This must mean i hate it. Lol. Besides, it makes absolutely no impact in any situation, since the most you'll get out of it is a single sentence when meeting someone for the first time. "What are your hobbies?" "Well, i read, go to the gym, run, do BJJ, and i play the guitar, violin and piano" "oh wow, that's great!" I don't understand why you think playing an instrument has any impact on something as luck based as finding a girlfriend is. People DO NOT CARE
>What are your hobbies?
Nobody asks this. The reason why you don't have a girlfriend is because you have autism and never go outside.
Are you moronic? This is basic stuff everyone asks everyone. "Where you from?" "What college you go to?" "Do anything fun outside of classes?" <--this is the "do you have any hobbies?" question
Stop projecting your social ineptitude onto me. It's insane how someone like you who thinks thar people never ask each other about hobbies got a girlfriend. Pure dumb luck, as i said.
Okay so you are ugly and short then, got it. Maybe get better genetics to increase your luck.
Reminding you that you said "you just need a personality bro, go lift and learn an instrument". Which part of my personality is my height?
You need a personality if you are average looking and average height, we were talking about normies. If you are ugly and short you are not even human.
>passion
Girls most definitely DO NOT want their men to be passionate about their shit. Yeah, she might like the IDEA of you playing the violin, but not all the sacrifices that come with being serious about it. She'd rather have you be a sucky bedroom hobbyist than a killer weekend warrior who moonlights with a world-renowned ensemble.
It's all about signaling, really. All she needs is a sprinkle of pixie dust, then she will turn it into ammo to brag with when she's around the gurrls. She doesn't want to carry a 30-lb Romanian anti-tank mine in her purse and will actually resent you for it. A hand grenade will do, but pixie dust is more than enough.
Zoomers are so pathetic lmao, if they really wanted to they could smash some prime chubby pussy but everyone thinks they deserve 9/10s
Not even fat landwhales want men under 5'11
Bruh I’m 5’7” lmao hambeasts love twinks
Yeah, 5'11 twinks and higher
based. Never understood not fricking everything that comes your way. Chubby chicks have been my best lays tbh.
Checked. Needed to hear this. I love that I beat norms at their own games not even trying. Thank you pre 2020 Tinder.
That's the one thing that surprised me about the guys who go out 3 times a week is that they barely get laid, usually 2 or 3 times a semester if they were good. I always thought going out was a guaranteed way to get laid unless you were a total sperg.
This
Try doing life being permadeficient in micronutrients like literally EVERY SINGLE NORMIE, like check this shit out not even kidding,search x defiency with anything (magnessium,potassium,some vitamin) and the % of deficient people is like 75-90% lol
This stops the brain from working properly,the muscles,motivation,depression,metabolism,cancer,etc...
We are priviliged to be so high IQ we landed on the fitness lifestyle literally 5%ers
White and nigs normals, other races just rot
God I wish that were me.
No they don't
Zoomers have the least sex of any generation.
They do slightly more drugs and have slightly less sex
Wow amazing so different; le west is fallen
I'm 19, started college this year, and i can assuredly tell you that zpomers are NOT alright. In my former high school class there were 20 guys. Each and every one of those guys including me graduated as a virgin without ever touching a girl, going on a date, flirting, etc. In my generation there were about 120 guys. Of those i only know of 4 or 5 guys who got girlfriends. Now in college, sure it may be because it's a STEM course with almost no women, but out of 80 something guys, only 3 or 4 have girlfriends, the rest are kissless virgins like me.
Was this normal 20-30 years ago? My mom says it's not and that my generation is weird.
>normies only drink, do drugs and have sex with b***hes.
They really don't. They just scroll social media, watch streaming garbage TV, and jerk off
People are being nice, patting you on the head like the good boy you are, then shaking their heads slowly at the weirdo autist when you walk away.
He is an autist for trying to improve but you who merely sits in front of Cambodian underwear sewing forum every day isn't?
I walk 2+ miles per day, and bike 6-10. I just don't go around begging for attention for it.
This guy gets it, kek.
You do it for yourself, not for the attention from randos.
It doesn't matter what half this board has done, or not done.
This response perfectly illustrates why everyone on this board is convinced you need steroids to get any muscle. Everyone is so jaded and beaten down, they can't fathom the idea that other people actually take the time to improve their bodies and minds rather than just consoooooming. Half of this board has never stepped foot in a gym, I'm fully convinced of that by now.
>Everyone is so jaded and beaten down,
This is a place for losers. It's why we're stuck here. People that have their shit figured out aren't wasting time here. Even /cbt/ the only place anyone posts any evidence they're actually IST is full of toxic mental health issues.
What is your definition of success, normie?
I got back on IST a few months ago after realizing my /k/ hobbies are to expensive and I'm saving for a move. But I've been on 4chin for around 12 years now. I hadn't been on IST for several years and it's the same stale memes and demoralization threads it was back then. Misc is the same way. You Black folk never moved on and one day you'll be old and decrepit posting the same "is coffee good for you??" threads on this shit hole.
>my /k/ hobbies are too expensive and I’m saving for a move
Kek are you me?
>/k/
I would take anything an autist from /k/ says with a grain of salt. There's regulat autism, then there's weaponized autism
chill moron, its just some obivous bate, stop taking everything so serious ffs
kek, what they dont know is that I know they know and I write them on my list
This demoralization shit made me go to therapy. Even if they are. Even if it's all true and your wildest nightmares are reflective of reality and none of them want to frick you because of it. Would you no longer want to lift and play piano?
If not, why? Do you not value the health benefits? The improved concentration? The muscles? The stamina? What about the piano? Are you only trying to impress people with it? Not to focus and meditate? Not to express yourself?
If you are just doing it in the hopes of making randos horny, it's not necessarily a moral stain on your character. It's just an ephemeral effect that you can't really control and the pursuit of it is going to give you unending frustration. If that's not your cup of tea you might want to consider training 3 times a day something else that you get more personal satisfaction from.
>This demoralization shit made me go to therapy.
demoralization posts from IST made you go to therapy?
>This demoralization shit made me go to therapy
lmao weak homosexual ngmi
This, OP is an attention seeker and this is not the first time he made the same thread
I'm sorry for the normalgays who have to put up with his insufferable personality irl
People think it's insane that I can actually stay on a cutting diet without cheating
My experience with women is that they generally just lay in bed watching reruns on Netflix until it's time to order food or go on a date. I think most men just drink themselves to sleep after work.
>My experience with women is that they generally just lay in bed watching reruns on Netflix until it's time to order food or go on a date
Yeah this is fairly accurate, most single women don't do shit, the whole "getting plowed every night" is incels projecting their fantasies onto the internet
Anon my experience is from plowing then while the office or whatever stupid shit plays in the background... But outside of getting plowed, social media and eating food yeah I don't really think they do anything
5'10" and zero problem with women. My face and dick game is solid though so dunno. I even fricked a 6'1" Amazonian chick this year but she was a nurse so it hardly counts they frick like three dudes a week to cope with their depression
Anon, getting plowed in 2023 is like ordering doordash. Arrange it through an app and they just lie there while it happens.
Sounds pretty grim. Hook up culture is disgusting.
Why would anyone want to frick a starfish?
60% of men are single, they take everything they can get (usually nothing).
to avoid pregnancy
Not for you though right?
I haven't had to date since 2009. I just post as if I've experienced any of the perceived hellscape to see if it rings true with its begrudging participants.
>Anon hasn't had experience in X for over a decade but still feels qualified to speak about it
Real shit.
That’s all my wife does 99% of the time
Most accurate take ITT. Stop overly idealizing and fantasizing over other people's lives. Most of us go home, sit on the couch or bed and watch TV/internet, eat and go to bed. Men or women. The most disciplined of us can squeeze in maybe 5-10 hours of extra activities . That's all there is to eat. The rest of us are all sedentary AF, just purely consuming things, content, food...
Except that most girls never go two weeks without sex, if they don't have a boyfriend or aren't out at a party hooking up they still have 1 or 2 FWBs they can call over to frick.
Good for them. I could visit a massage parlour every day if I want to.
I genuinely don't think so either. Most people are aghast when I tell them I take cold showers too. It's not even that bad.
Ça bone
>he gym 3x a week and practice the piano every day for 1 hour.
lol, thats literally me.
Based pianons. I've been going at it for a while but holy shit do I suck at this instrument.
If you genuinely suck at the piano then consider quitting. Playing a music instrument is very intuitive, you should be able to pick it up within a few weeks. It's literally the only thing where innate talent is required to learn it.
Nah I'd rather keep at it. I play it for fun and I do have fun regardless of how hard it is. I can see that I improved over time and I don't care if I have to chip at it for the next god knows how many years, it's this and books until I die and I still have a while to go unfortunately.
Ok have fun being bad and wasting your time until you eventually burn out. I'll give you 1 year and then the piano is starting to catch dust.
Keep playing. Dont listen to that gay.
lmao thats the biggest pile of horse shit i've read in a minute...
mental illness the post
Yeah if you don't become a piano virtuoso in 3 or 4 weeks it's over
You should be going to the gym 14x/week anon
Do you want to make it or be slightly better than a normie?
The average person is so mentally weak that they accept working for employers who abuse them for pennies, they follow the herd even when it's against their own family's interests, they stay in lifelong relationships with someone they hate because breaking up would require confrontation.
Let's face it, the 'elite' are right about normies. It's a pity that they're such disgusting irredeemable monsters.
Once you realize how weak the average normie is, you can easily just bully your way to whatever you want. If you don't believe me, just cut in line and watch people grumble but nobody confronts you.
The average normiegays doesn't even know jackshit about nutrition and live a hedonistic lifestyle and you think the goycattle is capable of getting their shit together lel lmao even this is literally their mindset (non-exhaustive list):
>Work hard == Earn more $$
>Enjoy life!! Life is short!! Have fun on the weekends
>YOLO!!! Why spend so much time at the gym and count calories??
>Have plenty of sex bro only virgins care about STDs
>Drink beer bro cmon bro
>Try this vape bro
>Cmon anon lets go to have fun at X bro (wasting time)
The “disgusting Black person ass” is so fricking kek idk why
>Work hard == Earn more $$
>Enjoy life!! Life is short!! Have fun on the weekends
Why are these two wrong exactly?
Nta
I see it as participation in the rat race. Working "hard" means that you could take an extra 10-20k per annum. That's not enough to escape the wagecuck cycle of slaving for Goldberg for 50 years.
The "let loose on weekends" trope is the same issue.
life!! Life is short!! Have fun on the weekends
This is true though
No guarantees you're going to even be here tomorrow, so enjoy the moment you have
>>Work hard == Earn more $$
I mean, yeah, life requires money unfortunately, try focusing your effort into eventually making money without effort
life!! Life is short!! Have fun on the weekends
Also yes, you should try to enjoy life and have fun whenever possible, if you don't, that's no life worth living
>>YOLO!!! Why spend so much time at the gym and count calories??
You can splurge a little while still maintaining health and fitness
>>Have plenty of sex bro only virgins care about STDs
True, but most people care about being clean, virgin STD cope runs real deep tho
beer bro cmon bro
Personal choice, no one is forcing you and if you don't like being around people you try to force you, than find sober people, they exist
>>Try this vape bro
See above, but even less people vape
>>Cmon anon lets go to have fun at X bro (wasting time)
Yes? Maybe if you spent more time accepting invites to fun places with your friends you wouldn't be posting "coping loner opinion #4,254,369,4587,254" on IST right now kek
My diagnosis, graduate high school
I don't live life to enjoy it
Ok champ and what is it you do for fun? Besides staring into a screen.
>>Have plenty of sex bro only virgins care about STDs
Statistically speaking, if you only frick white and asian girls, your chances of STD's are low.
>OP posted asking why normies lack discipline and I explained the normie mindset
>I responded in to explain the normie mindset
>normie Black person homosexuals get assmad at me pointing out the things that make them NGMI in discipline
I didn't imply that one should just be a fricking monk or something but that there were too many blissful ignorant shit that normies have that made them lack discipline
>>Have plenty of sex bro only virgins care about STDs
That's true tho.
Two moronic things that this generation of trad pseuds gets wrong is believing in religion and being afraid of sex. Should be the other way around
>Should be the other way around
Be afraid of religion and believe in sex?
It's because you don't have real jobs.
homie I have a real job and a wife and I manage to lift 4 days a week and make music daily. It's all gonna be over the moment I get a child though lmao
Yeah, the second you unfrick your spermcount and get a little ugly fricker that looks like you to crawl out of your wife's snatch, you're done with music for a long ass time.
I work two jobs (one is a real job, the other is just being in the reserves), work out in the mornings before work, and there is straight up no time left in the day for music after that. Unless you don't want to see your kids like a Black person.
not that anon but never having kids
who cares? really what's the point?
Oof that's tough but I've heard from my friends things get much easier once they start going to elementary school (homeschooling is not an option here and both me and my wife are spergs)
You either get it or you don't, I could reply with some shit from the Bible but this is the ultimate truth.
kek the Bible kek
"You either get it or you don't". Why even bother replying?
i love this excuse
>bro i just don't have the time for that
yeah you do.. you just don't care enough to make time for it
I have zero discipline, I hit the gym 6x a week because I enjoy it
The average person is frickin' depressed my guy.
TikTok and to a wider extent social media has absolutely obliterated people's ability to just stick to things and carry them throught for any amm
Normies are impressed when you don’t eat a couple of donuts when someone bring them into work, even more if you follow a diet and exercise routine. I wouldn’t use the word impressed though, more like freaked out, scared or even intimidated
Bro I’ll be honest with you. I have a lot of experience in sales and with building human relations. If I see a guy who I even SUSPECT of lifting, I’ll throw them a tidal wave of praise/compliments (even though I lift 2/3/3/5). Why do I do it? So I get free fricking brownie points down the road. That’s it. I’m not fricking impressed with your 190 lb skinny fat 205 lb benching ass. I’m being polite. I don’t lose anything throwing a disingenuous compliment to a stranger. Especially when they may be able to help me in the future.
Yeah yeah just activate my new phone wagie and no I don’t want an otterbox
average person here
I have no discipline at all
too lazy to kms as well
people are impressed by anything they consider difficult
personally I can't imagine willingly practicing piano every day for one hour, I learned it in my teens and I hated it. But when you like it it's totally different.
I realized recently, in my efforts to become more productive and more disciplined, that we have 16 hours in a day. If the average person works 8 hours 5 days a week, throw in 3 hours for commuting, that leaves them with 5 hours to get shit done. Assuming no kids, the average person can easily find 3 1 hour slots a week to lift, can easily get 1/4-5 of those hours to a hobby/skill (18 minutes a day makes a difference), and still cook and clean and do anything else they have to.
If you’re sane you’ll do bigger chores like cleaning the bathroom once every 1-2 weeks and just make the effort to spot clean after you’re done using it (not pissing all over the floor). That means that they have 3 hours left over to do what they please. 3 hours could be used to unwind from work and get ready for bed. There’s no excuse.
3-5 hours can be used every Saturday on their day off to do any chores.
Most people do not sleep a full 8 hours, about 6 is the average, SO really the average person has a full 5 hours where they can do nothing at all and still be very productive. Even if you have to commute for 5 hours (there and back) for work, you would still have time to lift 1 hour three times a week and do all you have to do.
3x a week is all most people need, I’m not saying that to argue about what’s optimal. ANY time is optimal considering the average person does not lift.
Someone aged 30 could do all this, hold a job, lift and attain fitness goals, have a few hours to put towards a business, AND have time to go on a date each weekend.
>throw in 3 hours for commuting
stopped reading right there. Not gonna listen to whatever bs you're gonna spout after thag
Can you explain why this got your panties in a twist or are you also too lazy to do that lol
I’m not that anon btw but he’s correct and it’s actually goofy that you got heated over him mentioning having to leave your home, your problem is clear as day. You’re too lazy to read some lines, the second you saw “having to drive up to 3 hours for the entire day” you, whether you realize it, thought “yup that’s justification to not continue and to remain in my neet comfort zone”
Lol stay lazy please pussy boy
>Just work yourself to the bone, goy
Not even saying you're completely wrong, but we shouldn't be normalizing this amount of toil; human beings aren't built for it, and it's not even necessary for the functioning of society, between bullshit jobs and inefficiencies in the system. Yeah, of course you should be as productive as possible for practical reasons, but let's not act like it's normal to need stimulants in order to not become excruciatingly poor or homeless.
Oh dude I wholeheartedly agree with you. It IS absolutely bullshit. This way of life is still relatively new.
>live in congested cities on top of thousands of other people
We’re supposed to be in small groups, 50-a few hundred people max.
>all the comfortable shit like electricity and cars and AC
Yeah these are nice luxuries but we’re not meant to have this shit, we’re still just apes, animals. The AC wouldn’t even be much an issue because we would have (and develop if we returned) a natural tolerance to shit weather, somewhat anyways.
>JOBS
We’re not meant to fricking give up 80% of our life to work for the interest of another person who doesn’t even give a shit about us lmfao.
>sedentary
We have to go out of our way to take care of and exercise our body. We sit way too much. We’re supposed to walk like 10 miles a day minimum (over 20k steps), do some sprinting here and there, use our bodies all day.
I can keep going on and on but yeah, I agree dude this shit isn’t normal. I was only detailing how despite these circumstances one can make the most of their time since we don’t have much choice unelss we’re okay becoming homeless.
In an ideal world it would look like this
>wake up, shit, cold plunge in river
>spend 1 hour feeding the animals and checking on things around your homestead
>spend next 3 hours tending to crops
>spend next few hours doing any chores or work that needs to be done
>relax in the woods on your land, maybe hunt some game, maybe stop by to trade with nearest neighbors who live 0.5-1 mile away or give them free supplies of whatever you have excess of, work on hobbies
>night routine to tend to animals, final check of your place to make sure everything’s in order/taking inventory of supplies such as firewood and produce
Something along those lines where the work we do, and our time, is spent for ourself. We directly benefit from it. None of this having to drive minimum an hour away to go to work for 8-10 hours then double that otw back.
Maintaining relationships with maybe 100 people max. Just self sustenance. No bills, no taxes.
And there isn’t even a reason to have to g o without some of the comfort shit like electricity and AC to have that.
But that’s not possible. Property tax for example. Even if you acquire land to live that way, to homestead, you still need an income to pay property tax because the land isn’t actually yours. Our way of life is fricked. Granted I value to comfortable aspects of it, like modern medicine, but we’re not meant to live this way and have to formulate some overworked to the bone daily regime to get shit done and still use what little free time we have for personal things. It should be more like half the day AT MOST is spent working 100% for our own sustenance, and the rest of the day we have freedoms to do whatever the frick we want.
this was literally my bro's life for most of 2021. just add a 22-y-o qt 3.14 whose grandad owned the land.
he gave it all away because he's used to the hustle and bustle of the city and missed his Black person kids and Black person ex-wife, even though the kids stayed with him for a few weeks TWICE.
>does the average person not have any discipline?
Yes
Piano is pased
Lifting is lased
Discipline is super dased
You could really lift 6days a week tho
They're specifically cultivated not to from childhood on because they'll accept authoritarian policy as nessisary.
>Does the average person not have ANY discipline?
In 2023? Not as much as in previous times.
That doesnt make you special though, so keep that ego in check.
>Discipline
Dude it's all pointless, lifting, playing piano, working, self improving, going out with friends, everything. You will never make it and you will never live the life you thought you would live.
The younger generations are realizing early how fricked they are compared to the older gens.
Things weren't like this ten years ago, but they are now and they will only get worse.
So why is getting two hobbies part of your goals?
It's a pasta, bot has been posting this shit on IST and /adv/ for weeks if not months.
What is with people feeling like they have to point copypastas out? wow you guys have street cred and have seen it before... let other people enjoy it, you don't look cool for spending lots of time on IST and knowing the "ropes".
Wow, I wish I was you. You probably talk to people about Catcher in the Rye and To Kill a Mockingbird and other highschool literature and think you are so fricking intelligent and deep. You aren't. You are a homosexual that has to ruin the fun for everyone else with the premise that if everyone is as unhappy as you, life has meaning and will get better.
But no one can be as unhappy as you, because you wallow in a shit and self-pity filled ditch that you dug out with your own mouth you fat fricking loser. Hey guys, I'll tell you how this movie ended... no that I actually saw it with friends in public, rather I downloaded it and saw it in my dank fricking basement with tinfoil blocking out the windows so I don't have to see the real world reflecting on my monitor as I see how much gold I can mine or something as equally time-wasting and asinine.
Yet you still think you are superior. I bet you also sage threads and feel like the god damn enforcer of the internet. Well you know what buddy, you can have your tiny, fictitious internet niche while I choose to live and enjoy the company of others.
You are what is wrong with IST, the internet, the world, and the existence of matter and we all see you for what you are you fricking dipshit homosexual butthole. Why do you even have a cell phone? NO ONE CALLS YOU.
Are you the plant watering anon from the other day?
That's not discipline, that's a habit. Discipline is when you force yourself to establish a good habit imo
No. We literally have to put kids in prison to teach them trigonometry, whereas the ancients learned it for >fun.
The average normalgay is like a flesh automaton running 8_to_5.exe, except installing that shit took 10+ years of institutionalization. They might have "dreams" (more often just wishful thinking) but they have absolutely NO DRIVE or command over their basal desires.
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kek what you typed is pretty rich coming from someone with a visual memory of every picture he has saved off of an anonymous online forum
Never in my 18 years of basket-weaving I have renamed my reaction images and I'm not going to start now.
or... he has thumbnails enabled in his file explorer
He's probably just using ISTX with randomize filenames.
What if he's using gtk filepicker bro?
thats based, keep it up. I play guitar 2hrs a day and go to gym 5x a week. Learning an instrument is rewarding in many ways.
playing guitar is useless. learn a skill thats actually valuable
😀 voi teitä pieniä poikia ja teiän epävarmuuksia, kyllä te joku päivä löydätte ittenne
kitaransoiton oppiminen on kuin hammastikkujen pinoamista. se on hyödytön
Kitara on ihan okei, niin kauan kun sitä ei joku ala illanistujaisissa soittamaan.
Musical ability is very useful. It changes the way your brain works. It's part of the reason medical schools will deliberately recruit from music majors. That and it's also cathartic and can bring joy to yourself and people around you
you do all that shit and are still depressed and b***hless
meanwhile normies are happy, out there partying and fricking
who's the real winner, timmy?
They are impressed because they dont like going to the gym, so you are doing something that for them would require conscious effort. Its not a fair comparison. Like I love training because Im an incel. I go to the gym 6-7x a week and I want sometimes to go twice a day. I dont take pride in it, I dont have any discipline, Im a frickin loser. Going to the gym doesnt require discipline if its something you want to do.
Thats like saying that going to the bar and having sex takes discipline. No dude normies fricking do it all the time, they love it. It doesnt take discipline to go and play golf if you like golf. You are just so fricking socially inept that you cannot even grasp something so obvious and thats why you are so surprised. They probably have more discipline than you.
>incoherent normalBlack person babble
Did you also tell them that you come to IST and make moronic threads like this one?
>another thread where the losers on IST pretend like they are so far superior to "le stupid normies"
Stop humblebragging butthole.
When I was 18 I was on a date with a girl who thought it was really impressive I read ten pages a day.
going to the gym everyday is not even discipline
it's like eating ice cream every day, what's there not to like
Discipline isn’t something you can work on, it’s innate.
This post won't work on me, it's inert.
>always noodling on guitar at my office desk instead of working
>maybe 3 hours total throughout day
>old man comes by
>you have got to be one of the most dedicated, hardworking people I’ve ever seen
>tell him nah it’s more like a drug addiction and nervous habit
>he’s just so impressed
Most people are out of touch with what it means to have hobbies that it amazes them when you do anything beyond watching TV
Humans are lazy by nature. Only a handful are real, thinking humans with aspirations. Rest of us are just drones.
The average person? Yeah that's accurate. The average man and woman in the west is obese, so they lack the discipline to stop stuffing calories in their pie holes. This isn't even a deep conversation with lots of ins and outs, that's it right there. They lack discipline.
I have a friend who has no discipline at all. Whenever she eats she over eats to the point where her stomach hurts. She can't study something or learn by herself and refuses to try and fix it. Constantly skips the gym and doesn't make any attempt to create or stick to a schedule. She's nearly 30 and I have no idea how she can lack these skills.
Idk if its discipline or homies ain't breathing rite , they be breathing thru they mouth when exercising or some eve do it all the time
Check out buteyko. When your control pause incr3ases, there is a zone where u naturally can't wait to ex3rcise. I'm close to around th3re somewhere
U gotta breath good u got 2 much oxagen
ong bruh no cap
I am impressed at your ability to humblebrag your normie hobbies! wow, 1 hour a day piano, you must be the new chopin! wow you GO to the GYM THREE times in ONE WEEK?! Holy FRICKING SHIT MAN CAN I READ YOUR AUTOBIOGRAPHY?!
I was surprised how easy it was to put on some muscle and look decent. All I do is just workout an hour a day and eat clean food, which is what the human body should be doing anyway. My coworkers act like I'm some super disciplined monk for doing so.
I had a chest day yesterday with friend and went to mcdonalds afterwards. Still recovering from shoulder dislocation I had 2 months ago and when I was in Mcdees I had to just stretch my chest and shoulder a bit because it was hurting me. Couple of guys saw me stretching and did the same afterwards. This is the best compliment I had in a while.
I think it's a few things
1. People are in terrible health and doctors refuse to offer real help, instead offer drugs. Most people need more D, magnesium, zinc, most people have poor gut health, and refuse to exercise or even to stretch. So naturally they get worse and worse. And with poor gut health comes malabsorption of vitamins so they just suffer. And eventually some (like me) develop serious issues such as SIBO and genuine full fledged vitamin deficiencies and a whole slew of terrible issues.
2. People are soft as hell nowadays. And they're taught what little energy they have needs to be directed to "hard work" aka wageslaving. They're raised and taught through the government school systems that competition of any kind and masculinity of any kind is toxic and should be avoided. The schools were made to suppress men, and to suppress free thought and intellect. Only to raise wageslaves hellbent on consoomerism.
I guess that's more than 2 points but you get what I'm getting at. It's a lot of things, so many you can't really condense it all. People are lacking in humanity and lacking in health. So society as a whole is suffering. So much that spending hours on Instagram every day and watching tv with a bag of chips for the rest of your night is a "normal" thing to do. Don't even get me started on the porn epidemic.
I'm able to get myself to go to the gym 4 times a week but literally have 0 discipline in anything else I don't get it
i've noticed most people think they need to wait for the right time for things. They think they get better by waiting to not feel sick/sore anymore instead of building strength and stretching out. They think they dont have time to do things so they wait for it to free up instead of starting the things and forcing themselves to manage it better. Combined with young normies thinking anything that anything that causes stress is psychologically harmful (as in the stress of not eating shit food all the time or sleeping the day away) and boomer normies thinking that any sort of attempt at improvement is a waste of time and you get mass amounts of people that refuse to make changes or do anything that requires effort.
>discipline
>Does the average person not have ANY discipline?
HEY. It took a LOT of effort for the government and corporations to get the populace this easy to manipulate. A century of government schools and almost as long of non-stop propaganda and secret mind control experiments. Lower your tone.
This is what people don't get. This was by design.
I'd much rather bet that most people undersell the amount of exercise they do unless they are pro athletes because it makes them come off as less of a tryhard and also women love natural muscle a lot better than gym muscle.
Could it be that OP is just too autistic to know that you aren't supposed to really talk about the amount and intensity of your routine outside of the circle of your gym bros?
When I told the dude at my job that I go to the gym at 6am then get ready for work at 11am he couldnt believe.