Does this happy leaf have a negative affect on you gains and/or wellbeing?
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Does this happy leaf have a negative affect on you gains and/or wellbeing?
No unless you are schizo.
actual schizo here, if anything it's helped
correlation vs casuation. ill people tend to self medicate.
Firm belief of mine that marijuana makes you fat. You give me a young, 18-year-old girl and give her pot she'll blow up like a balloon and waddle like a penguin in 6 months.
You give that same girl a few lines of cocaine, you have a really cool ass chick who isn't fat.
Cokeheads > Potheads
fat women should be sent to the gulag
Fat women should be given copious amounts of pure cocaine.
I can save them.
>Firm belief of mine that marijuana makes you fat. You give me a young, 18-year-old girl and give her pot she'll blow up like a balloon and waddle like a penguin in 6 months.
Have you seen this in action anon, or has anyone actually seen this? My gf is skinny but is a massive pothead, and this post has me sweating and my mind racing. Am I dating a future blimpus maximus?
Eating a lot makes you fat
Snoop dogg is skinny as frick
this does not answer my question anon
There are two types of stoners: skinny ones and fat ones. There is no inbetween it all depends if they munch or not.
Gf of mine. She has a few extra pounds but the vast majority of it went to her ass. Then, I saw photos of her when she was 18 and asked her what happened. Figured out she started smoking weed after high school.
I told her she has to look like she was when she was 18 or else I'm leaving her. She was like an 11 back then and now she's a 7.
I agree pot makes fatties, but have you actually spent time around cokeheads? They're fricking insufferable
>Sounds like an assumption based on nothing
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325050
>Omayma Alshaarawy, Ph.D.
These people are paid to recite bullshit numbers.
I don't see any possible way inhaling burning matter would positively effect you
Wat about gummies
I could see it being useful if you have chronic pain, and have severe anxiety(not from drug abuse)I'd vouch for considering the long term side effects though instead of being a Black person that only thinks about the here and now.
there arent any long term side effects that arent related to smoking
If you use weed for a long time and decide to just quit one day youll be moody for less than a week and maybe some mild insomnia during that time too but otherwise theres nothing
Why not? Your ancestors was inhaling smoke by the fire everyday
Yeah and they all died
Rapes your lung capacity
I’m trying to quit, it makes me anxious and not want to talk to girls
Don't listen to all these addicts here are real studies proving it halts androgens from entering receptors. The study is done on mice but so are all of our others.
Ok but it lowers stress which is the biggest gains goblin.
oh, you stressed out lil baby boy? real men don't have 'stress'. stress is for homosexuals and women. a) deal with problems head on & solve them or b) don't give a shit & don't let it affect you. "Stress" is like "anxiety" -- a concept that only exists for low t homosexuals.
Mirin bulge.
Just use cbd. Relieves stress way more than thc.
you literally can’t make gains without stress
stress reducers are a fricking scam
How do I talk to women if I have social anxiety?
Try to have femals friends. Not every women needs to be your gf. If you don't care that every girl could become your gf its easier to talk to them
You are a wise man, fren.
Here is a study that shows internet and technology are bad for you, will you now stop using them?
Yes. Goodbye.
>Stops you from losing hair
Weedchads we can't stop winning
>Blocks DHT
>not free test
So I get to keep may hair longer? This is supposed to make me want to stop smoking weed?
DHT
>>not free test
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>So I get to keep may hair longer? This is supposed to make me want to stop smoking weed?
If it blocks DHT, it will also block testosterone as they are very similar molecules. The study used DHT because it is a proxy for all androgens including testosterone.
Pic related is from the same study
most studies show either no benefit or there are adverse effects that negatively impact fitness.
but this is all in context, if you are using it for a legitimate problem you have, you may be getting more out of it than a healthy person.
all it has is negative side effects.
I smoked for 20+ years every day about 2-5g raw.
Here are the results:
Positive:
>High libido
>Always motivated to study and work out if you have the right strain
>Music and gaming and sex is a lot better
>Everything I do alone or with 1 or 2 good friends was more fun.
Negative:
>Missed a lot of fricking girls and partying because I wanted to stay at home and play vidya and fap. Literally rejected frick invitations because I could just fap instead.
>no lifting gains because it fricked with my stomach. I was super thin. If you smoke "some" you get fat, if you smoke like me you will end up skinny.
>I somehow hated everyone and I did see a lot of things and people very negative. I thought they were lame and stupid.
>crowds pissed me off and made me anxious
>I thought I am a lot better than everyone but weed is holding me back
I thought it feminizes you and make you asexual.
No I fricked my 15yo gf at least 2x every day when I was 18. I was high as frick every time and I fricked her for 8 years in all holes at least 6000 times. Good times fren
>I thought it feminizes you and make you asexual.
It likely inceases sex drive via the dopaminergic pathway rather than via testosterone. You can get similar effects of high libido and making things more interesting by smoking meth which also increases dopamine, and provides it's effects independent of testosterone.
>by smoking meth
What the frick is wrong with Americans? If you are so inclined, why not just regular amphetamines?
I've done both. Regular amphetamine does not match the extreme euphoria of meth at all, not even close. Don't do it, you will never go back to speed if you do.
>Regular amphetamine does not match the extreme euphoria of meth at all
That's because you are taking it via different routes of administration and dosages.
If you taken them at equipotent doses and routes they are relatively similar in effects.
If you gave a person a tablet of amphetamine, and a week later gave the a tablet of methamphetamine, it would be hard for them to make big distinctions between the two. Some people may prefer one over the other due to unique brain chemistry.
This is definitely not the case. 20 mg oral amphetamine is definitely not the same feeling as 20 mg methamphetamine. Meth feels a lot more euphoric and lasts way longer. Lisdexamphetamine will wear off in about 7-8 hours for me. I feel spun on meth for 12-16 easily.
>20 mg oral amphetamine is definitely not the same feeling as 20 mg methamphetamine
20 mg of amphetamine is not the same dose as 20mg of methamphetamine.
You would need to take around 10mg of methamphetamine to match the 20mg of amphetamine. That's what equipotent means. This will reduce the intensity of the methamphetamine euphoria significantly and also reduce the length of time where you have a dose high enough in your bloodstream to cause euphoria, reducing the 12 to 16 hours of the higher dose down to closer to 8 hours of the amphetamine dose.
>What the frick is wrong with Americans?
Not American here , my homeboy thinks its cool as a frick to hit the pipe , I talked him off , last time I talked with him he is still on his shit , Im truly thinking he is fricking retarted for thinking that bullshit.
this is it, I have no clue if Im fricking myself over with weed but being successful a top uni while getting stoned everyday is saying otherwise
>Missed a lot of fricking girls and partying because I wanted to stay at home and play vidya and fap. Literally rejected frick invitations because I could just fap instead.
That seems like a plus to me. Not having to put up a face to get a frivolous benefit seems benefitial, although "putting up a face" is an intportant skill to develop, I may add.
>Missed a lot of fricking girls and partying because I wanted to stay at home and play vidya and fap. Literally rejected frick invitations because I could just fap instead.
Seems like I should step up my game, then. Currentyl, I am still within the "makes you fat" state, I should eitehr quit or use those extra calories in the gym.
>I somehow hated everyone and I did see a lot of things and people very negative. I thought they were lame and stupid.
>crowds pissed me off and made me anxious
>I thought I am a lot better than everyone but weed is holding me back
I have been dealing on and off with this problem even before smoking weed. Although, I used to be a more cheerful and over all peppy guy. I guess being treated badly by resentful Black folk and the undesirable took a toll on my perspective.
motivated to study and work out if you have the right strain
which strain? it just makes me tired as i do more throughout the day. considering quitting altogether.
my best times were weed were definitely a few years ago when I was newer to it and only doing edibles and having great highs.
Just smoke ciggies you pussy
It's illegal in most places, so being busted for it definitely has a negative affect on wellbeing.
Delta 9 gummies are legal.
THC and getting high gives me immense gains but it kills everyone else's gains, and yours too sorry bro
Mad FOMO.
>wellbeing
Exacerbates my depression
Increases prolactin which makes you lazy and uninterested in life. Take p5p and vit e if you're going to smoke weed. Also inhibits androgen receptors, if you're a stoner and you take a tolerance break you'll notice you're much stronger in the gym.
this
you sound like a fricking loser lol
>you sound like a fricking loser lol
The life I want just doesn't exist anymore so I'm kinda checked out.
what is p5p? quick run down? also, how much vitamin E?
if you want to become more masculine, should you take vitamin E anyways?
smoke a couple cigars per week/month instead
couple packs *
it makes you moronic
Its probably bad for me but I have nothing in my life that makes me happy besides a cat, I constantly crave affection and attention yet I despise irl women for being sociopathic prostitutes down to the last, and as a result I am constantly miserable and wishing God in his infinite mercy would end my suffering already.
For a few fleeting hours after smoking, things feel a little less miserable.
Its not a great coping mechanism, but I can't drink, and I'm not going to degrade myself by fricking prostitutes on tinder until I get an STD.
Weed it is.
Like any vice it takes total control of your dopamine. Want to enjoy a movie? Gotta take a hit.
Want to go outside and do anything? Gotta take a hit.
Want to have sex? Gotta take a hit.
Excessive use also limits your REM sleep killing off your dreams and your recovery. Goodbye gains. Hello soreness and injury.
I'm going to be the odd man out then. I got a pretty good concussion about 3 years ago and D9 has really been the only thing that has helped me achieve deep sleep.
I've tried CBD, teas, sleep aid pills (not full on sleeping pills) and other strands of delta products, but D9 seems to be the only one that gets me to a deep sleep.
If I try to sleep regularly, it's an incredibly light sleep and where I wake up about every 2 hours. Honestly wish I didn't have to rely on D9, but after having such shitty, light sleep for months, I'll take it being a nighttime vice just so I can have meaningful sleep.
It's estrogenic
dry mouth can cause cavities
can trigger mental illness
why pissSA is trying to remove it from schedule I drugs
After a couple months quitting weed (previously was a near daily stoner for 5 years) you realize there was no fricking benefit to smoking all that shit, and youre just too stoned and moronic to realize youre literally burning your money to make you dumber. Sure there are outliers and people who can smoke weed and it makes them super productive or whatever but lets be real. That doesnt describe you or most of us. Its just a cope for not having anything else better to do at best and an escape from real life at worst. Shitty fricking drug and I regret all the money and hours I spent on this shit. You dont even remember anything when youre stoned its POINTLESS
I experimented with weed for a while in college. Only benefits is that it makes video games more fun and stand up comedy hilarious. Everything else is boring on weed. Movies, exercise, music, and food are all a bit better but not really cause you forget it instantly anyways. That’s why stoners hype up weed so much, because they’re in a constant high they think sobriety is not normal. Tolarance is a hell of a thing though. I used to smoke weed with this girl in high school. She was a stoner. She smoked every goddamn day I knew her, said her dealer wanted to frick her. She got fat and became a tattooed stripper. Sad, because I remember the days she was semi-innocent and really hot. Kissed her once, never fricked. Hope she’s doing well now but probably not. Anyways ramble over.
Have you ever thought of sending her a message or checking out how her life is going?
I either smoke or drink daily. At this point it just makes me angry, or to say it in a better way, it makes me connect better with an unpleasant feeling that I think I tend to shut off when I am sober or around people. It doesn't help me relax or get happy, but, to the contrary, it helps me reflect and think in a more objective way about the direction my life is taking.
Weed unironically makes me exercise harder to the point where it's even a problem. Between the painkiller effect and getting super fixated on something I work out so hard I really end up sore afterwards. I don't lift weights with it because that takes too much coordination and would be dangerous but it puts me in a cardio trance straight away and i can just go much further than I usually would. It's sort of like I get totally in my head and my body just goes on autopilot so as long as I set myself running or whatever I just keep going and zone out.
That said it obviously isn't good for you to bomb your hippocampus and its androgen inhibiting effects are well documented. I tapered down my weed consumption because I am worried about its long term impact on cognition and memory but once or twice a month I'll do it and I do it instead of alcohol which is more unhealthy imo albeit probably less of a gains goblin.
>You dont even remember anything when youre stoned
What? One thing I love about being high is I remember everything.
Yeah it's an escape from life for a while. The mild psychedelic effects are why I do it and while I would rather do harder psychs I don't have easy access to them.
Weed is really quite inexpensive heck most people spend more on coffee. Psychs are even cheaper.
Running is boring as frick. I do cardio sober but it's infinitely more fun high. It goes from a tedious painful chore to something actively fun and inb4 >le addict this doesn't apply to everything but running really is boring. Just one leg in front of the other over and over again endlessly while you sweat and pant. Weed makes me sort of disassociate and go to dreamland while my body does the hard work it's great. Then I return to reality and I have that post workout glow and soreness.
Weed kills the quality of your sleep do not use it as a sleep aid. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the damage it does to people is because they're weed sleeping.
weed turns you into a homosexual
I've got three weeks to detox for a pre emp after smoking chronically for about a two year spree. I'm pretty sure I'm fricked and it's 100% my bad. Doing cardio every day to at least convince myself I'm doing something about it. Dreamed for the first time in those two years about four days in. The fact that it inhibits my ability to remember dreams at all should be reason enough to question it's safety.
Hey if its any reassurance, I detoxed enough to pass on piss test strips in only 10 days after a couple year daily spree as well just keep chugging water and sweating every day
having dreams is a sneaky huge benefits of quitting. that's 1/3 of the day, kinda makes sense to be living and remembering those experiences. especially when you consider that blazing prevents dream manipulation (lol forget the name of it right now) and astral projection
lucid dreaming. I don't think astral projection is real or anything but I do think dreaming is important. unfortunately as a mentally ill guy my dreams are all terrifying
Check out "Astral Doorway" on youtube, he's got me convinced its real
I mean I'd definitely be "healthier" if I didn't smoke weed, inhaling smoke into your lungs is never good for you, but having said that I wouldn't enjoy running at all if I didn't rip dabs before I did it. It's such a repetitive action it's the only way to make it fun for me.
I don't like to do serious weightlifting high though, my head already gets swimmy if I'm deadlifting or squatting heavy enough. It's better to have my first sesh of the day after the gym, it's a nice reward and helps me devour my post workout meal.
TLDR I don't think it has a negative affect on my gains, but no real positive either besides making my lifting music sound better and running/cardio bearable.
>it's the only way to make it fun for me.
If the only way for you to do something is to get high first, you're an addict.
Oh I know, I use it to replace cigarettes, antidepressants, pain killers and booze though so I don't let being an addict spoil my day 🙂
you’re still an addict
That's what he said you ESL moron
>I don't let being an addict spoil my day 🙂
Can't go "spoiling" your day of getting high just to do the bare minimum of functioning every day.
>TLDR
You wrote two fricking lines.
While I never got into weed much myself, I have watched it really mess with the lives of several friends/family. No matter how "casually" they start, they all ended up being heavy smokers who would talk about how they have to smoke it to feel "normal." Everything eventually revolved around getting high and being high, to the point they wouldn't want to hang out unless you for sure had shit for them to smoke. One of my cousins talks about how he can't function day to day if he isn't high: straight up can't make a grocery list if he doesn't get high before writing it.
One of them recently decided to quit entirely because he realized all he could think about was when he could get high next, and he's having some serious withdraw issues. He hasn't been able to eat without vomiting for two days, he's sweating buckets, and is so anxious he can't sit in one place more than a minute.
It's good if you're trying to bulk and have issues sleeping, but besides that, no.
It helps with stress, unironically. Do not ever smoke weed if you take asthma steroids, medicine for your skin, or blood thinners.
I've never smoked, but from decades of observation, about 15% of regular users of this drug are essentially unaffected, about 20% become slaves to it who tell you "I could quit whenever I want but I just don't want to" with their mental addiction. The affected 85% almost uniformly lose all real drive and ambition, discipline and grit they may have had. They mostly don't realize or agree that this has happened but they become people who absolutely cannot overcome adversity and therefore never strive to succeed. Pot smokers get really upset when you tell them this and tall tales of the many potheads who are in the unaffected 15% abound, but most of them just become giant pussies and even bigger losers.
What if I never had in my to overcome adversity?
smoke before you lift and you’ll just be able to go forever if you can start best workouts are high
I smoked for about 17 years. Eventually started to have panic attacks when I smoked. Can't explain why. I quit smoking pot 5 months ago. Feels like I got a pay raise.
Weed is peak homosexualry.
Find me a grown man that likes the weed high and isn't a complete homosexual or a Black person. Weed is a drug for women and Black folk. Normal men do not like the high.
The paranoia is real, I notice it much more after I've taken time off from the pot. Feels hard to talk to people.
I smoked nearly erryday for years and it definitely didn't do me any favours
Smoked basically daily for the best part of 10 years. It helped bring me up to a better "baseline", the issue was that as my circumstances changed and my personality developed, that psychological baseline was holding me back from reaching higher peaks of fulfillment, happiness, experience and so forth. Last year I decided to keep it to the weekends which has largely been a success. I think my biggest regret going from a daily smoker was that it made me "less present" when I was high. It sounds cringe but I feel more connected to my wife and dare I say I love her even more, and it feels kinda bad that I essentially nerfed a few years of this.
Yes, there are benefits to weed but you have to be careful. You must respect the substance, but more importantly you must respect yourself. Whilst it can help you get to and stay asleep, by and large I think it is bad for sleep. I think "medicating" to help with sleep is a slippery slope anyway, and is best avoided. Likewise, for stress release perhaps in the short term it is useful, but it is better to be self-sufficient in managing stress and taking pro-active steps to minimise/insulate yourself from environmental causes of stress like your work and so forth.
I am mostly posting in this thread because I am currently not smoking it at all. I quite simply realised that I wasn't enjoying it. I live in the UK (for my sins) so I have to buy somewhat large amounts at a time (6g) and whilst I don't really know much or care about the indica/sativa things the stuff I get tends to be the head high, not the body high that i used to enjoy and appreciate so much especially after a fat gym session. I have a lot more going on in my life and so I think weed has become a lot less competitive in making me feel good, reducing my stress and stuff like that.
The blessing and curse of weed is that the acute negative effects are fairly minimal. The comedown / withdrawal isn't super strong, but even though it's hard to notice, it is very much occurring. You'll have a honeymoon phase, then start to experience the negative effects. The negative effects certainly have a compound interest, and by the time it becomes tangible you may be in too deep. Because of the honeymoon, you may exhibit "cope" whereby you recognise that something isn't quite right, but you won't attribute it to the weed because "i was smoking during [time] and things were good".
Perhaps I will return to weed and motivation later.
It affects different people in different ways. I think of it like an amplifier, if you're a couch potato before then weed will make you worse, if you're productive person already then the weed will allow you to focus even more on your tasks. But even then it fricks you if you get dependent on it, a lot of the guys I work with cannot function properly without having a puff before work. Its not like how people become irritable without their daily coffee, these guys are barely responsive, just staring at their phones without even scrolling. Count my blessings weed never did that to me, but then I know they were doing ritalin too so it might not have been the weed responsible.
I really used to love weed and smoke it.
Now I stopped to be honest , its an expensive drug for the ones who can allow themselves to be honest , all the people who have no problem enjoying it that I know are the ones who got operating companies behind their back that they just sit at home all day doing whatever and adjusting their business papers here and there with the financial people.
Most casual people I know the ones who smokes are also into the heavier drugs , and the ones who quit and not into heavier stuff just stay with old booze.
But some basic facts around people nearme/me who smokes:
>Money waster , lot of people stuck without any weed and asks for credits for their next patch .
>Mood swings , everyone come to a point where they have insane mood swings when they run out.
>Anti social , most potheads just hit few blunts and stay in their head(zone) and don't give a frick what's going on around and just freeze mode or some kind , like a vegetable.
>If you young police will give you much more of a shit than someone my age.
>I only know 1 occasionally pot smoker that take few hits here and there just because he's into designer drugs.
>Eventually it becomes cigarette 2.0 after a while
Other than that , take few puffs at a setting twice a year with someone just to experience if you really that itchy and never touch it again , or don't touch it overall.
My overall point , if you want to find the hardware that's your choice , over my lifetime I know maybe 3 people who smoked three four times just to fit in and try and never smoked it again , not ones give a shit.
I know people who are "good boys" and sober their whole life but did 7 years in jail for false rape accusation , damn there were times when you just asked your local pot head this questions and not the internet lmao.
t. 32 , hash was the thing for me to be honest more than weed, weed is fricking lame.
Now its just don't do it for me.
I love smoking weed and hate that I play a sport that tests for it
I quit smoking weed 3 months ago. We’re all gonna make it.
If I vape it once in a while, would i see any significant decline in cardio ability and athleticism? I'm talking no more than once or twice a week, just a few puffs to get mildly high
a few puffs might not be that bad, but I used to take Sat/Sun and vape constantly on those days. burnt out on weed in ~2 years time from doing that every weekend. so basically 2/7 of the time I had a lot of weed in me. that is definitely not sustainable.
it hurts rem sleep. so you just sleep more ineffeciently. its up to you if this is an issue for you. for me it turned into an issue so i stopped. the feeling of waking and baking after smoking the night before, missing out on rem sleep...youll feel like youre dead.
also weed makes a lot of homies look ugly.
enjoy your gyno, degenerate
Why don't you go visit and enjoy his gyno?
Completely destroys your motivation and productivity as a human being and part of society.
I used to smoke virtually every day, I thought it made me smarter and allowed me to think better. The only thing it was doing was making me forget everything else hence allowing me to focus and whatever task I was doing.
It made me forget how much I liked workout, it made me plan my days around smoking. After work my only activities were smoking , look at my phone and watch tv .
It started to take a toll on my work, it started to become very hard to comprehend reading anything. I’d forget things I was supposed to do.
I decided to just stop, I know people who just smoke now and then and they appear fine, me I just didn’t have limits when it came to weed, I haven’t smoke for more of a year and I don’t miss it at all I got my life back
I had stopped two other times before but deep inside I was missing it
For people who used to smoke daily, why did you quit? I need motivation to stop.
it's low T b***h shit to be addicted to anything, especially weed which makes you "feel good". If I was a hot high value chick, would I want to be with some homosexual who needs weed to feel good on the daily? Of course not. Man the frick up. I'm 500+ days clean after daily for a decade, don't miss it tbh. (tho I will dabble occasionally once I hit 1000)
True, that's why women abhor roidtrannies.
I'll concede that b***hes probably want to frick roidtrannies b/c they don't know how to identify roiders + they are subconsciously drawn to the high T, but not gonna do it personally. they're also subconsciously drawn to high T nattys, but I think roids may help the betas
It just stopped feeling good to me. I quit cold turkey and tried it again a few times, but it's such a shitty sensation that I just say no now. After smoking weed everyday for two years a some more, I developed tolerance and then you just smoke to feel normal. It's stupid.
I miss when I used to like it. I would laugh, have fun, do stupid shit, love food. But when that's gone it becomes a waste of money.
It fricks up your REM sleep, you probably don’t realise but you haven’t had a real dream in years if you’ve been high the whole time. As soon as you quit your dreams came back and are crazy as frick