>10g
ell oh well
Less protein than whey but I wish marketing gays would just call it pea protein, whey, even isolate locks my stomach up like nothing and pea protein doesn't
Try to find one that's at least 20g/scoop
Depends. Get a good brand, and make sure the aminos are balanced. Singular vegan sources, like just pea protein, have unbalanced aminos which makes them less absorbable; you gotta mix, e.g. pea and rice or something. Avoid soi, obviously. In that case it should be decent. Not as good as whey, but if you can't have whey it's alright. Tastes way worse though, I tried brands like Vivo Life which are probably the best tasting vegan proteins and it's still shit compared to whey.
Literally all of that is bullshit, in reality söy is healthy and safe >This updated and expanded meta-analysis indicates that regardless of dose and study duration, neither söy protein nor isoflavone exposure affects TT, FT, E2 or E1 levels in men.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33383165/
The charge against söy was that the phytoestrogens, or "plant estrogens", would bind to estrogen receptors in men and have a feminizing effect, NOT that it would increase actual estrogen levels or lower testosterone. It makes sense that it would not, since söy contain zero actual mammalian estrogen, which is what any bloodwork would look for.
Phytoestrogens are also orders of magnitude weaker than mammalian estrogen, and to further complicate things the body has different types of receptors, not to mention the possibility of competitive blocking (i.e. receptors bind to weak plant estrogens instead of strong mammalian estrogen, effectively LOWERING estrogen).
Point is, these tests & studies are meaningless because they look for a change in actual test and estrogen, which might not occur. You'd need to look at the actual mechanism and potential negative effect, which would most likely be subtle feminization (subtle compared to actual estrogen that is) after prolonged exposure to unusually high doses of phytoestrogens. You'd basically need people to drink like a pint or two of söymilk per day for a year and then just kinda look at their bodily changes.
In the real world it makes zero difference >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358922/pdf/sports-07-00012.pdf >To summarize, our data suggest that whey and pea proteins promote similar strength, performance, body composition, and muscular adaptations
>https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2382/htm >no differences found between pea and whey proteins
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/ >A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33905293/ >Despite marked differences in habitual nutrient intake, healthy, young vegan and omnivorous men did not differ regarding vascular and skeletal muscle structure and function, or cardiovascular fitness.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7312446/ >A practical application is that consuming plant protein can support strength and muscle development comparably to whey protein
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/ >A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.
://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358922/pdf/sports-07-00012.pdf
Gay and moronic. This study does not account for the fact that outside of intervening with the immediate effects of either whey or protein, participants were free to eat whatever else they wanted outside of the study. What if the pea drinkers also had a steak or drank whey protein after leaving the study session?
://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2382/htm >>no differences found between pea and whey proteins
I am reading the study and charts given and this statement is simply false.
://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/ >habitual vegan
Gay and moronic, don't care onions sucks, not paying for the article
://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33905293/
See image
://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7312446/
All participants engaged in supervised resistance training 3×/week and consumed 19 grams of whey protein isolate or 26 grams of onions protein isolate, both containing 2 g (grams) of leucine.
uhuh
://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/ >Nineteen young men who were habitual vegans >habitual vegans
Studies on the whole, are pretty shit. Unless you admit these participants into a completely controlled vacuum space you will always have confounding factors
I would recommend vegans using a plant based protein having a fat carrier in your shake, such as full cream milk. I'm aware of the irony in this. You'll come around eventually.
>10g of protein per serving
no
considerably way less than whey, besides vegan diets are shit
>vegan
>protein
pick one
what the frick does that even mean why are you so fricking moronic
you're not fricking cool
I don't care
Id say that anon is indeed pretty cool.
yes it costs money and makes you fart.
>10g
ell oh well
Less protein than whey but I wish marketing gays would just call it pea protein, whey, even isolate locks my stomach up like nothing and pea protein doesn't
Try to find one that's at least 20g/scoop
I can have 100g of hydrolized whey isolate with no problems at all. You might just be a gay.
Depends. Get a good brand, and make sure the aminos are balanced. Singular vegan sources, like just pea protein, have unbalanced aminos which makes them less absorbable; you gotta mix, e.g. pea and rice or something. Avoid soi, obviously. In that case it should be decent. Not as good as whey, but if you can't have whey it's alright. Tastes way worse though, I tried brands like Vivo Life which are probably the best tasting vegan proteins and it's still shit compared to whey.
It makes you small and weak.
>In test animals onions
Discarded.
Literally all of that is bullshit, in reality söy is healthy and safe
>This updated and expanded meta-analysis indicates that regardless of dose and study duration, neither söy protein nor isoflavone exposure affects TT, FT, E2 or E1 levels in men.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33383165/
The charge against söy was that the phytoestrogens, or "plant estrogens", would bind to estrogen receptors in men and have a feminizing effect, NOT that it would increase actual estrogen levels or lower testosterone. It makes sense that it would not, since söy contain zero actual mammalian estrogen, which is what any bloodwork would look for.
Phytoestrogens are also orders of magnitude weaker than mammalian estrogen, and to further complicate things the body has different types of receptors, not to mention the possibility of competitive blocking (i.e. receptors bind to weak plant estrogens instead of strong mammalian estrogen, effectively LOWERING estrogen).
Point is, these tests & studies are meaningless because they look for a change in actual test and estrogen, which might not occur. You'd need to look at the actual mechanism and potential negative effect, which would most likely be subtle feminization (subtle compared to actual estrogen that is) after prolonged exposure to unusually high doses of phytoestrogens. You'd basically need people to drink like a pint or two of söymilk per day for a year and then just kinda look at their bodily changes.
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Huel protein (the protein powder, not the meal replacement shakes) has higher amino acid content than whey. And generally protein is protein, so yes.
what’s good homie
>Huel protein
>higher amino acid content than whey
In the real world it makes zero difference
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358922/pdf/sports-07-00012.pdf
>To summarize, our data suggest that whey and pea proteins promote similar strength, performance, body composition, and muscular adaptations
>https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2382/htm
>no differences found between pea and whey proteins
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
>A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33905293/
>Despite marked differences in habitual nutrient intake, healthy, young vegan and omnivorous men did not differ regarding vascular and skeletal muscle structure and function, or cardiovascular fitness.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7312446/
>A practical application is that consuming plant protein can support strength and muscle development comparably to whey protein
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
>A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.
://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358922/pdf/sports-07-00012.pdf
Gay and moronic. This study does not account for the fact that outside of intervening with the immediate effects of either whey or protein, participants were free to eat whatever else they wanted outside of the study. What if the pea drinkers also had a steak or drank whey protein after leaving the study session?
://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2382/htm
>>no differences found between pea and whey proteins
I am reading the study and charts given and this statement is simply false.
://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
>habitual vegan
Gay and moronic, don't care onions sucks, not paying for the article
://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33905293/
See image
://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7312446/
All participants engaged in supervised resistance training 3×/week and consumed 19 grams of whey protein isolate or 26 grams of onions protein isolate, both containing 2 g (grams) of leucine.
uhuh
://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
>Nineteen young men who were habitual vegans
>habitual vegans
Studies on the whole, are pretty shit. Unless you admit these participants into a completely controlled vacuum space you will always have confounding factors
>cope the post
Sorry going to keep eating onions and making gains off of it.
>going to keep eating onions
LMAO You don't have to apologize to me about what you do with your body until it affects my healthcare premium
Data is trash paid for by gaytards lol at believing studies.
I would recommend vegans using a plant based protein having a fat carrier in your shake, such as full cream milk. I'm aware of the irony in this. You'll come around eventually.
Why?
>what is pea protein
literally just eat some oats and you get all amino acids you need
this Black person drinks like 5 FERMENTED PEA PROTEIN shakes a day. basically a vegan keto diet.
Though he's on TRT but yeah could be an option
Sure, but it usually tastes like ass and often isn't as good as whey.
If you wanted to make a metal robot, would you use metal or wood?