What are some drugs you can take that don't harm your gains? I'm trying xanax now. It seems to be working pretty well to kill my anxiety right now, but I'm not getting high from it. I've already taken two bars, and although I feel pretty relaxed, I don't feel euphoric at all.
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What’s funny is you won’t remember making this post. It’s like this never even happened.
Xanax isnt a recreational drug bro
What if I took lean? I know where to get the real shit for $250 a pint.
Idk, what if you took lean? It’s just an opiate
I got tricked into the Kratom israelite. Helped bigtime with anxiety and I haven’t used coke or alcohol since last year but now I’m taking Kratom extract every day. It makes you nauseous and doesn’t get you high. It’s a shit drug and now I’m addicted to it lmao
>the real shit for $250 a pint.
That sounds like a scam. You can get a gram of black tar heroin for $10 or $20 on the street.
Pharmaceutical codeine is dirt cheap too.
>$280 for an ounce of heroin
No you fricking can’t homie. Even fentanyl is like $100 or more a ball, you can’t even FIND actual heroin anymore
taliban crackdown on poppy fields a year or two ago in Afghanistan actually devastated the global supply
It was already on the downswing with china cranking out fentanyl and the back door to America being wide open. It’s a matter of simple logistics, a brick of fentanyl is the equivalent dosage of a couple hundred bricks of heroin.
Transportation is the main cost of street drugs
I'm talking about black tar heroin, and I've been clean for 12 years now but back in 2010 I would get grams of tar for $10 on the streets of the tenderloin. Something about the volume of homeless junkies on the west coast tells me the price probably hasn't changed much.
Better heroin will cost a lot more yes. I did used to find china white for $200 a gram. It was rare but it was worth it.
The game has completely changed since you were in the streets man. It’s ALL fentanyl; crack is still king in the hood though.
I hang out with a lot of dope heads who are sober through AA friends so I ask about these things since I never got into dope
$10 a g is big city/ east coast prices. In most places it was .1 for $20
>don't feel anything
>become a zombie that nobody wants to be around
xanax is fricking stupid
>What’s funny is you won’t remember making this post. It’s like this never even happened.
Kek. I tried taking this shit for insomnia last night, and I already noticed some memory problems.
>Xanax isnt a recreational drug bro
100% agree with this, just made me sleepy and apathetic. people who like it are naturally anxious or have mental issues that are soothed by it.
kratom absolutely fricks up your hormones, it's just a question of "how much" lmao. saying it doesn't at all is disingenuous imo
I've taken Xanax recreationally therefore it is a recreational drug.
Drink a little + a qb give you the same feeling as drinking heavily with none of the hangover. It's great.
Where can I get xanax?
Used to get hundreds of Xanax for a guy who ordered the powder online on silk road and pressed the bars himself. Unfortunately he was arrested by the feds and I ended up getting kolonopin which is much more therapeutic.
how did you get kolonopin?
No drug will significantly harm gains if used sparingly and in moderation. If not, losing gains should be the least of your worries.
>Drink a little + a qb give you the same feeling as drinking heavily with none of the hangover. It's great.
I second this.
what's a qb?
Kratom; it's pretty similar to a mild opioid but it doesn't suppress your testosterone production
Kratom is fricking placebo dude
And if you take enough of it to do anything at all, it just makes you nauseous
People use that to get off opioids not get high
all kratom did for me was kill my appetite and make me a bit quezzy.
Gave it to my gf and she wigged out like a bad acid trip lol.
Still use it when I cut if the hunger starts getting bad
literally makes your hair fall out and gives you ED. and if you start taking it everyday, you will have withdrawals just like heroin withdrawals.
>just like heroin withdrawals
tell me you've never done heroin without telling me you've never done heroin
Wrong
We’re gonna find out tomorrow. Granted I’ve only been using it daily for less than a month but it’s the extract, probably 3-400mg a day
You're so cool for doing hard drugs fricking homosexual
That wasn’t the point gay
>Thinking its cool to do heroin
You should take a look in the mirror and tell yourself if this is the life you really wanna live, taking heroin youre most likely a junkie.
where did he say it was cool
It's not cool, it's ice cold
He implied it.
You have no idea what you’re talking about bro. I’m getting naltrexone tomorrow and am going to cold turkey it after 3-4 weeks of continuous use.
What you want is GHB
The annoying thing about naltrexone is it constipates you.
It’ll just be for a month or so, I can’t believe I got addicted to Kratom bro. It’s so moronic, and it’s more expensive than doing coke 3x a week
Kratom used to give me crazy dreams. I'm a straight man but one time I had a dream that I was a large black woman being fricked by my best friend (male).
I stopped taking Kratom after that.
>one time I had a dream that I was a large black woman
How large exactly?
pretty big dude
I've been taking kratom daily for 5 years. Hair is fine, it does weird shit with your libido though. Makes your dick hard and friction feels AMAZING in the short term, but its harder to orgasm and suppresses sexual desire in the long-term overall; also harder to get a boner after the acute full-boner phase. Going off kratom for 2-3 days makes me horny as SHIT so I can time that if I know my GF wants to frick over the weekend or something.
Definitely doesn't interfere with my lifts, I prefer the feeling it gives over oxy and hydros believe it or not, it's a much more pleasant sensation.
>Jacked people drink, do drugs, party all the time etc
I'm in my 30s. I can tell you that jacked people in college who do all of the above turn into fat slobs after college if they don't stop partying. 4 years of being jacked and partying is not a big deal, but it catches up with you very easily. Everyone I know who was a jacked bro is either fat as shit because they never stopped drinking, or they are still in really good shape because out of the bubble of college they stopped.
Also me. I was jacked in college. I slowly got fat by senior year. I partied for the next 5 years outta college, woke up and realized I was a strong obese lard, and stopped drinking so much. I'm now fit again and I still drink here and there, but the partying will catch up with you. It's like saying "fit people eat pizza"; yeah, they do, they don't do it all the time though.
why is it only dyels who worry about "losing gains"?
Jacked people drink, do drugs, party all the time etc but they dont sit around on an incel support forum crying about "losing muh gainzzz"
bad habits crash your testosterone. steroid users don't have to worry about this.
What you’re looking for is shrooms
I have the equipment needed to grow my own shrooms. I've grown oyster mushrooms before. Shrooms don't get get you high, though. This is why I brought up lean. I'm trying to avoid alcohol, and I feel like lean would help give me a bit of bliss like alcohol without the intense negative side effects.
Take a low dose of shrooms and it’s a great high
Trust me i’ve done a ton of drugs trying to find something after I started to hate weed and low doses of shrooms is objectively the best
>Shrooms don't get get you high, though
Excuse me
Dude just vape and zyn and be sober otherwise.
>Shrooms don't get get you high
lmao what bro
Came to post this. As long as you don't take more than like 1g at a time, it just feels like a really intense weed high and there's no real comedown and no hangover.
Can you find krokodil? I imagine you are in Russia
If they prescribed xanex in Russia then Russia is basically just the other side of America, same coin
Grim
Xanex Is benzos on steroids. Xanex should not be used by humans. The fact that they basically only prescribed that says a lot. It's almost as if they want you hooked.
It’s only good for coming down off of coke
From what I've read, the very fact they are so powerful makes them ideal for panic attacks. They are tranquilizers, after all.
I think Ativan is the strongest, quickest acting benzo.
What about clonazolam?
I dunno bro I’m not a pharmacist. I do know the LD50 for Xanax is like 3 grams. One bar is 2mg. That’s fricking nuts and I had to look it up myself but it’s nearly impossible to die from taking Xanax on its own.
Add a little alcohol? Goodnight sweet prince
Stay away from -zolams
They prescribed this for my cat and all he did was lay there with his eyes open and pee uncontrollably everywhere. I immediately stopped giving him that lol
Even for the worst possible panic attack anyone can have , they're still overpowered.
Absolutely senseless
Literally a blatant, egregious cash grab by pharma. Right up there with fentanyl but without the overdose deaths to draw attention
Lol, I ate 3/4 of a Xanax bar (no tolerance) Friday night and slept for 12 whole hours before waking up at 1pm still high. There's no way I can train on that shit.
The only drug I can do and still train is weed. Even alcohol makes me feel like shit mere hours afterwards.
I wouldn't mess with Xanax. I was addicted to that shit for 15 years of my life, 4mg per day on prescription. Took me 3 years to get off and it was the most miserable time of my life and I feel like I haven't fully recovered yet, if ever. Just stay away from it, you will get addicted.
Oh I know, I just stumbled upon a few bars that were given to me for free. I used to mix with alcohol and oxycontin a lot in my early 20s. Ended up almost dying after shooting up 90mg oxycontin and taking a bar with some vodka.
Fun times but that was over 10 years ago. I have no interest in getting back into drugs, but they're fun when I'm with a female.
I was also hooked on opioids and speed for almost 15 years so yeah I know what you mean. But frick them, I'm clean now and enjoying life
I just like that I can picture exactly the type of dude he is from his story and calling chicks "females"
Good for you man. Life is much, much better clean. I relapsed once and just felt like shit and threw up all day. Never again.
Lmao you totally got me bro
xannies cause brain damage. all z-drugs do
for me, it's tranq. dirt cheap, forces me to relax my spine (equivalent to a dead hang, decompresses my discs) and is an isometric workout in itself to stay upright for the duration. see pic related
have a nice day degenerates. The only drug you need is fresh outside air
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ITT I learned that IST dyels who dont know anything about lifting or how to talk to a girl know everything about recreational drugs kek
seriously junkies are such scum
For me it's the humble cocaine
>SMOKE ME, ANON!
She’s calling to you.
Cocaine seems pretty awesome. The problem is, I want a downer that will help me relax and calm down. I just want a quiet euphoria.
phenibut
It’s even gayer than Kratom.
I read online phenibut can be used to induce lactation even in males
>quiet euphoria
you'll want to candy flip at a low dose. Rave standard, buddy.
Raves are gay
Alternatively, speedball if you're wanting less mental and more physical euphoria. There's also PCP, but please don't rip anyone's face off.
>candy flip
What is this?
X and acid
Nta but it's MDMA and LSD
LSD+MDMA. Low dose of each. Mild visuals, both compounds are stimulating but not like crack - it's more like a deep flow state full of emotions, if that makes sense. Popular at raves for the prosocial, entactogenic, and energizing effects of the two together.
For me it's sauna
Get your hands on a few vicodin for when your done with the coke for the night
Last time I did coke I chewed a decently sized hole through my cheek
Dentist thought it was cancer and I had to tell her to chill out
You were snorting meth, bud.
I took Xanax before a college party, not knowing how they worked, and drank heavy...I should've frickin died. went full bartard (along with the boys), completely blacked out, and broke my ankle stumbling to the dorm. I was terrified wondering if I did something really bad during the night but didn't remember, so going in public was terrifying because I thought I'd get publicly confronted over something....fricked me up good man. was 8 years ago and nothing bad ever came of it but it was absolutely moronic and a bit traumatic lowkey.
>What are some drugs you can take that don't harm your gains?
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No harmful drug exists
Degenerate post.
>drugs that don't harm gains
>posts a muscle relaxant
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I'm curious about this too because I was recently given 20mg ritalin for my "untreatable depression" from to childhood trauma
It's absolutely amazing what it does to my brain, like I've had a bag on my head for 20+ years that someone just takes off when I take the meds. I have a seemingly endless amount of energy and I feel happy for once. I dreaded going out before but on this I kind of enjoy it and I like seeing people and talking with them. There some documents I should have fixed 6 months ago and today I just went out and did it like that. I didn't find the places I was going to but instead of looking it up I just asked people I saw if they could help me find it. I could not imagined doing something like that before unless it was on a really, really good day.
But there's downsides too, like I can get these "dips" during the day where I just shut down and need to rest for 30-60 minutes, I even get a little anxious and agitated typically in the evening as they start to wear out. But that's how I was like 80% of the time before anyway so not much difference.
I'm mostly worried about my heart, I feel it's beating faster but I get check ups once a week to make sure it's okay
It also screws up my apatite and sleep which wasn't exactly good before. I just chugged a 700 calorie milk/egg shake, I struggled to keep it down and I still feel a little sick. I sleep like 6-7 hours, last night I got 8, but I'm unsure if that actually is the medication because I've always had periods like that where I sleep online 5-7 hours a day for a week or two before going back to normal
In addition I might have picked a bad time to start this because something really bad happened to me just before I started and it made me really stressed and anxious, so that might be interfering with this, especially my sleep
You're already harming your health gains with your hard drugs abuse, why do you care about destroying your muscle gains too?
Just stuff your face with xanax.
Just smoke week like a normal person, jfc. Do you idiots need instructions on how to be fricking normal?
>smoke weed
kills your brain and turns you into a docile moron
Do small doses of shrooms instead, at least that is actually beneficial for your brain