God damn it this so rough. I can only sleep like 5 hours a day, and I get irritated at the slightest inconvienence. Any other robots on a diet?
Dying from dieting
God damn it this so rough. I can only sleep like 5 hours a day, and I get irritated at the slightest inconvienence. Any other robots on a diet?
I'm not paying attention to what I eat at all just what I spent and I can't afford to gain a lot of weight. I'm fat but I gain very little and I drink a lot, get the munchies
I am losing like 1 lb a day. Im on a 23 call diet doing 3 hours of cardio each day along with resustance training. I hate my life.
2300 calories diet sorry
hmm yeah I would lose weight slowly on that but I can't keep my hands of the drink unless I'm driving I don't pig out much on food because it's relatively expensive to eat good
2300calories diet?? That a normal man diet buddy. Just eat low carbs you will loose weight faster. Also eat before you sleep so you can sleep because if you are hungry cortisol is hight etcetc and that can give you insomnia.....
Not if you're 300 pounds.
The solution is easy but it will be hard for you to rewire your brain into doing it automatically.
Simply stop considering food as some kind of treat/pleasure, something that sole purpose is satisfying your cravings and give you that nice feeling of being full.
First step would be educating yourself a bit about what proteins, carbs and fats are and how your body is using them for energy.
Then you start reading nutritional values on the wrappers/packages of products you buy to get a general idea how much fricking sugar everything has.
Then the final step would be rewiring your brain into considering food solely as a fuel for your body.
Another thing that will help greatly is browsing /misc/ so you become a raging antisemite, when you consider 99% of popular product brands and fast food chains as israeli owned overpriced goyslop factories resisting an urge to get some big Mac or Snickers bar gonna be super easy.
Also I would highly advise visiting IST for some advice, maybe encouragement, a lot of insults for being a lazy fatass, and definitely /fph/ threads where you can find the most disgusting and moronic fat people content.
You didn't even read the guy's post. He's not mindlessly over eating and failing to get results, he's actually doing what he needs to get results, but at the cost of being able to function.
You're doing what needs to be done. If you've been fat for a long time the recommended calorie deficit doesn't cut it, your metabolism is fricked. Don't listen to the people telling you to stick to a reasonable 500 calorie deficit, that assumes your metabolism is normal. It isn't.
Doxylamine Succinate will knock you out the frick out. It's available as a sleep aid at any grocery or big box store with the sleep aids.
It's got a long half life, 8-10 hours, so you need to plan around it. Hour before you plan to sleep, allow 10 hours before you actually have to do anything meaningful. The boot up process can rough, because the doxy is still in your system. Recommend starting with a half tablet.
What worked for me was setting aside two premier protein shakes and a pound of chicken breast, this is just under 200g of protein and just over 1000 calories. I would consume that first and then allowed myself whatever else I wanted. (Keeping only good options in the house). If I was suffering enough to where I felt I needed something else I'd have to drive out and get it. Went from 280 to 215 over the summer.
Keep it up dude. Fix your sleep and the rest comes a lot easier.
yeah, i'm trying to gain weight but i suck at it
if i don't make a conscious effort i probably only eat like 1000kcal over an average day just because what i like eating is like vegetables
>two premier protein shakes and a pound of chicken breast, this is just under 200g of protein and just over 1000 calories
your liver send me a letter asking for help
>your liver send me a letter asking for help
Originally, where did you hear that nonsense?
here you go reddit spacing kun
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045293/
>Meta analysis
Garbage. Table 1 is full of N=11 trash. It's not even science until you hit 30, at which point you can actually infer some statistical significance.
The liver section specifically references red meat. Once again, garbage. That's not chicken breast, the sample data is contaminated.
it's your liver you're poisoning i'm not looking for more studies even though i know they're there
that was literally just the first one i didn't even read it lmao
>i didn't even read it lmao
That much was obvious. If you read it you would have realized what it was. Trash designed for a quick and easy publish.
Don't speak on things you've not even read, especially if it could keep someone from actually getting to a healthier weight.
i effortlessly maintain between 20 and 21 bmi with like 14% body fat just doing whatever i want lol
i don't understand why fat people can't figure out that all you have to do is eat plants
it barely even matters what plants just eat actual vegetables and fruit and you'll be skinny it really is that easy
there has never been a fat fruitarian (nor one with teeth lol)
>there has never been a fat fruitarian
There are plenty of them. Do you not remember the juicing craze? Ever noticed All the fat juice zealots? All it took was to convert fruits and vegetables into a liquid, then it was totally reasonable to fit a sufficient number of calories down your throat.
>barely even matters what plants just eat actual vegetables and fruit
What do you think French fries are made of? Same goes for bread. Most all goyslop is made from fruits and vegetables because it's cheaper than animal products.
It doesn't help to minimize or leave out key details. You're right, you'd have to eat 4 pounds of white rice every day or 10 pounds of apples in a day to meaningfully gain weight. As long as you're jamming enough ballast in your stomach you're good.
You should be differentiating between fruits and vegetables and their derivatives.
Please don't diet I need a chubby nerdy bf... Don't do it noooooo
I've been getting sick of eating less im an foodcel
Mary me, let me cook for you
Sure just a decent understanding female is all I want in the first place
do you accept trannies?...
I...prefer female reproductive organs sorry
worth a try...wish you all the best for you anon
thanks if it makes you feel any better I've tried liking it but is just doesn't compute down there with me
It's okay, you're not required to like things. I hope you know that there's probably plenty of bio girls who love chubby nerds like you, know your worth 🙂
literally what is so hard? just eat less and be more mindful about nutrients. you arent doomed to be a fatty for life, its not set in stone, just pretend youre skinny
>lost 20kg
Not true. Read the studies they did with the contestants on the biggest loser. Their BMRs are shot; they straight up run cooler and burn less passively.
If you've been super fat for a long time it sticks with you. What super fricked up is that if you manage to lose the weight your metabolism drops even harder. If you regain the weight the metabolism doesn't bounce back.
It's a struggle. Constant effort. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't actually lost any significant amount of weight and kept it off.
i was a certified fat b***h, 80kg at 5'6 and i lost 20kg and have kept it off for over a year now, while still eating carbs, goyslop, walking my only form of exercise
metabolism changes happen of course but thats inevitable, it happens even if you dont lose weight
you are not destined to be a hamplanet forever, you can maintain weightloss for sure. theres no denying that is a huge lifestyle change, you have to permanently adjust your eating, and work on body recomp. but its really not impossible
That's not fat. Ham planets are nearly double your weight.
>no denying that is a huge lifestyle change
>What's so hard
These two statements conflict with each other. You were minimizing what it takes before being called out on it. It is a disservice to minimize the effort required to take on a meaningful lifestyle change.
im not saying i was a hamplanet, but i was one point off an obese BMI and was literally fat. i look at pics of myself back then and i was WIDE, 80kg on a 5'6 woman is fat, undeniably
its not hard to simply count calories and eat less and make more mindful food choices. many people do that every day of their life. but yeah maintaining that is hard, its hard to stay in a rhythm of eating healthily and moving more etc. how fat even are you? what do you even eat?
I was 280 at my peak. Counting calories did not work, because the calculator assumed I had a normal metabolism. I needed to cut much deeper to make the progress that I did.
What you've got to understand is that the weight you view as unimaginable just happens to these people. They weren't actively trying to reach that size like you would have to. They clearly have different biology, and the studies on the biggest loser contestants confirm this. Shit's fricked for them and they have to try harder, no different than any other physical feat. Some people nail a 30 inch vertical leap on their first try, others would never be able to do that no matter how much they trained. Somehow we accept this as an innate difference, but not when it comes to metabolism. Everyone's got the same stat line there and they're just bad people who can't do simple things.
my family is cursed when it comes to genetics, both maternal grandparents have T2 diabetes, my mom is obese and also has diabetes. ive seen how hard she's tried, so i really do empathise and understand its not easy to shed a ton of weight. i stand by what i wrote though, it is not impossible
obviously for you its a problem larger than simply dieting to lose 10-15lb. i think most people who have these extreme struggles probably have thyroid or cortisol issues
> I stand by what i wrote though, it is not impossible
Never said it wasn't. I only ever said that it isn't a trivial matter for the people who are fricked up. I just don't like the minimizing language from people who have never actually done the thing that they claim is easy.
OP is losing weight at 2300 calories. He almost certainly weighs more than 300 pounds. He's got a completely different set of tools available, and is going to have to work much harder and suffer more than someone who has better tools.
It's a different world at these levels.
>never actually done the thing that they claim is easy
i lost a quarter of my bodyweight, i am also a female lol
yeah he's obese and its gonna take him a while, but no dieticians recommend long term diets anyways. youre supposed to gradually lower calories intake (or increase exercise), and have periods of time where you eat at maintenance. he's gonna plateau at some point, he's gonna have to fight urges to slip back into old habits. i already know this kek, i went through it myself
He would need to lose 40%. Different world entirely, assuming you've not totally fabricated the scenario and fudged the numbers. (Likely)
Anyone who has actually achieved something can give exact details of what they did. None of this vague shit. Even if everything you say is true, he is suffering and you appear didn't. That should be a clear sign that something is different between your experiences, and whatever you have to say isn't relevant to his toolset.
i could give exact details, i doubt youre interested though. it took me a while to lose weight, and i gained some back at some point. it really isnt that irrelevant to what he has to go through anon, its not like i lost 10lb and im preaching about how easy it was
pic rel is literally my myfitnesspal weight log lol
The thread is literally about weight loss. If someone isn't interested they don't have to read it.
What I'd like to know is what prompted the choice, and how long had you been at 80 before starting? If you gained weight for a few years, finally noticed it, then course corrected you'll have a far different experience than someone who has been fat their whole life. What you did there was a "Return to normal". What a lifelong fat contends with is going far beyond what was ever normal for them.
Good on you for stopping it before it got out of hand though. The longer you stay fat the more permanent metabolic damage is done.
>what prompted the choice, and how long had you been at 80 before starting?
i have no idea, id always been chubby. i never really weighed myself until i started losing weight, but i was 70kg at like 13. i tried many diets and failed, i got sick of it, i got sick of being wide and pudgy and looking ugly. my current clothing size (US 2-4) is the same i wore at like 10-11
i was raised with an obese mother and a dad with a fast metabolism, so i always ate like shit and had no idea what normal food portions were. i can imagine it is extremely difficult for people who've had to contend with that theyre whole life, you have to basically deprogram a lifetimes worth of poor eating habits
No.
I am not dieting for this exact reason. It's too hard and makes me miserable.
I'm on a diet, but I've stopped dieting. I just eat whatever I feel like eating up to 1,500kcal and I walk a lot more. I went from 270lb at 5ft11, to 170lb over a couple of years, but after some difficult life events I ballooned up to 300lb.
Today I ate yoghurt, banana, raspberries, pastrami and some apples.
You shouldn't look at the changes in your meal plans as a "diet", it's a lifestyle change. Yes, it's hard, and yes, it sucks, but it's good for you. Remember life is suffering and the more you suffer, the better you're doing.
I don't have a diet and never had one, I just eat protein rich foods and yeah healthy stuff that taste good
stay strong soldier