>eat 500 calorie deficit. >eat 250 calorie deficit and do 250 calories worth of cardio

>eat 500 calorie deficit
>eat 250 calorie deficit and do 250 calories worth of cardio

Which is better?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is your goal?

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    250 cals of cardio is a lot, I’d rather eat tree fiddy and burn 150.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >250 cals of cardio is a lot

      Not really…

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's about what you burn in gym in one hour but you immediately get it back if you eat 1-2 fruits or one chocolate bar.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's about what you burn in gym in one hour
          try 150-200 cal at most. 250 is more than what most people burn in an hour at the gym

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you go to the gym to sit on your ass and stare at girls maybe.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >250 cals of cardio is a lot
      I burn 600 calories in 40 minutes on a a bike. What?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he believes the calorie numbers on the cardio machine

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm weigh stable so sounds like cope to me bud

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not the first person you were responding to and I'm currently training for a 10 mile race. Most cardio machines/calculators vastly overestimate the calories that are burned in a cardio workout, this is common knowledge.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I dont care. Buy a better cardio machine mine works fine and its accurate.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                lmao you sound angry. you aren't burning that much from 40 minutes on bile you insufferable homosexual.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm weigh stable so sounds like cope to me bud

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                600 calories would be about what's burned in a 5-6 mile run. Depending on how large he is, and how intense he's biking it's possible he could hit that many calories on a bike.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like projection to me, you can totally get there with intense cardio.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The human body expends ~1500 calories a day to just maintain it
          >Physical exertion somehow only burns 5-10% more calories

          EVERY OTHER MACHINE ON THE PLANET:
          Idle - low energy consumption
          Work - significantly higher energy consumption

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>I burn 600 calories in 40 minutes on a a bike.
        You absolutely fricking do not, lmfao. Lance Armstrong can’t even do that, you dolt.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          lmao you sound angry. you aren't burning that much from 40 minutes on bile you insufferable homosexual.

          I'm not the first person you were responding to and I'm currently training for a 10 mile race. Most cardio machines/calculators vastly overestimate the calories that are burned in a cardio workout, this is common knowledge.

          You guys need to step up your cardio game. How do you think this isnt possible, if you aren't sweating and out of breath after cardio you aren't doing it right. You can totally burn 600 in 40 min, why do you think cardio is always recommended for weight loss?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >why do you think cardio is always recommended for weight loss?
            Because the sugar industry spent billions of dollars convincing everyone that obesity is caused by overeating and/or being sedentary.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Exercise doesn't increase energy expenditure.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay bro let’s see you walk for 6 hours a day and not lose weight

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you do not lose energy through movement
      Amazing

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine you have a 4.5kW generator. You plug a device into it which is drawing 4.5kW, therefore you are using 100% of the capacity of the generator.

        Now you plug another device into the generator which needs an additional 4.5kW. What happens? Does your 4.5kW generator start generating 9kW?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >plug in another device that draws 4.5kW
          You flip the breaker aka you have a heart attack, bad analogy try again moron

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've been on IST for way, way, way too long and this might be the dumbest analogy I've seen.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can't tell if this is an expert troll or some schizo trying to guerilla train IST to deal with moronic anti-CICO arguments
          the disanalogy comes from the fact that OP has an energy surplus, which you're ignoring in the hypothetical. A better analogy would be anon asking how to reduce his fuel tank, by upping the generator output to burn more fuel or reducing adding additional fuel (assuming some amount of fuel gets burned no matter what during the general usage of the generator).

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't seem to understand the point that was being made. Your body has a maximum energy production capacity. It's not about how much fuel (body fat) you have. The bottleneck is how much your mitochondria can convert to ATP. Thus the energy generator analogy, not a fuel tank analogy.

            Basically you have a daily energy budget. You can spend it on exercise or you can spend it on thinking but you can't exceed your budget by exercising more or thinking harder.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Can i extend it by chemical or technological means?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can waste more energy as heat with something like DNP but I am unaware of any way to produce more usable energy.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Indeed.
          Diet and exercise moderate mitochondrial health and capacity - these regulate bodyfat content, basal metabolic rate and energy expenditure.
          Exercise is healthy, you might even slightly increase your energy expenditure if you are sedentary, but if you are metabolically unhealthy, then your body will always pick the easy route and adapt by lowering your basal metabolic rate, before burning more fat, which is an extremely slow and rate-limited process, as white adipocytes contain very few mitochondria.
          White fat is intended as a long-term subsistence storage after all.
          What do we learn from all of this?
          Diet is way more important than exercise in that exercising too much can actually harm your ability to lose fat, while diet regulates all the rest of your metabolic function.
          However, some exercise will always be better than no exercise.
          The proper choice here would be to emulate nature - fasting for several days, then breaking it properly with a large high-protein meal, using the hormonal response to train heavily that day, possibly even before breaking the fast, eating for some time and repeating the process.
          For those who think that you will lose more muscle from fasting than from calorie counting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

          https://i.imgur.com/YxkXbmQ.jpg

          I can't tell if this is an expert troll or some schizo trying to guerilla train IST to deal with moronic anti-CICO arguments
          the disanalogy comes from the fact that OP has an energy surplus, which you're ignoring in the hypothetical. A better analogy would be anon asking how to reduce his fuel tank, by upping the generator output to burn more fuel or reducing adding additional fuel (assuming some amount of fuel gets burned no matter what during the general usage of the generator).

          Your mitochondria are the generator.
          You can eat more or less, but you won't burn much more from exercise, until there are more and healthier mitochondria.
          Do mind that the mitochondria are also the waste management that gets rid of the biogas shit tank under the floor, which is your body fat and while they do this, they liberate excess calories.
          So the question becomes this: "How do you increase your mitochondrial health and capacity through diet and exercise?"
          And CICO is simply not conducive to solving that question beyond stopping you from dramatically overeating, as it completely foregoes any and all understanding of biochemistry, behavioral, metabolic and hormonal functions and processes.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          How did you find a tit to suck when you were born man

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron alert. Data suggests that women who excercise enough to complete a 13 mile run don't have a significant change in energy expenditure compared to mice who lay around for a week and then go apeshit on a wheel when they get one, and then get back in shape in 21 days to where frequent excercise doesn't change their daily energy expenditure. If anything, these graphs demonstrate that the body will adapt to a new daily energy expenditure after around 22 or so days of routine physical activity.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Data suggests
        no link provided = does not exist

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and no. Your body isn't so much an engine, as it is a generator. It's burning the calories whether you spend them on exercise or sit around all day and radiate away the extra as body heat. As your graph shows, your body will ratchet down other systems (the energy spent to keep you warm, run your brain, run your other organs) in order to compensate for the energy directly spent exercising. The reason you exercise is to build muscle. Muscles consume a lot of energy passively. They, in essence, increase the amount of energy your generator is generating. They increase the calories your body is consuming.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the cardio option because the general health you should probably be doing at least a couple hours cardio a week

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's easier to not eat than it is to do cardio. Just simple don't eat.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it is actually really funny.
    CICO bros can't even explain why a steak doesn't kill you.
    In fact, they won't even understand the question

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      But I did eat breakfast

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        And how did that make you feel?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing you just said makes any sense

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Which is better?
    The cardio. The weight loss will be the same because the calorie deficit is the same, but the cardio will come with additional health benefits.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    In both cases you are on 500 calorie deficit. It's just that in second example you are actually exercising.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cardio, running, swimming are goats and will help with ur gains, do them after workout and you are gucci

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    obviously the second one, you fricking moron

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    el americano

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty cool, fat amerimutt

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doing the cardio
    t. Cardio junkie

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    second for heart + more micros

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >eat 500 calorie deficit
    >eat 500 calorie deficit

    >Which is better?
    I don't think you understand the concept

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >toxic levels of testosterone
    what did they mean by this?

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

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