>Do ecdysteroids actually work?
Technically yes but not enough to see an actual improvement in your muscle mass or the gym. It's 99% placebo >Will they not kill you like regular steroids?
Most steroids are pretty harmless, just stay away from tren
>They are literally classified drugs like heroin and cocaine and they influence negatively most of your body parts short and/or long term.
post body dyel
I can tell you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
>my own hormones
Let me guess, you're some broccoli topped kid who hopped on roids after going to the gym twice a week for a month didn't give you a bodybuilder physique overnight?
Roids work by increasing your hormone production to levels your body wouldn't normally by able to achieve. You can gain a ton of muscle this way, but it's muscle your body can't naturally support. The moment you come off cycle you're going to have an estrogen rebound and most of that muscle mass and strength you worked so "hard" to gain is going to melt away as your body struggles to restart its natural hormone production. Did you think you just got to keep the gains? >but muh PCT
PCTs only work to minimize the post cycle decline. They negative effects are impossible to avoid. And you better be ready to start another cycle in a few months, every year for as long as you want to keep any amount of muscle mass, because the decline doesn't stop until you return to your baseline. >I'll just stay on cycle forever then
Enjoy putting your heart through more stress than a 400lb lardass who eats 3 Big Macs a day. That's how you die in your 30s.
This is the shit the roid shills like Derek or whoever else you morons listen to never tell you about, because they benefit directly from convincing impressionable children and mentally ill men to start taking steroids.
>Roids work by increasing your hormone production to levels your body wouldn't normally by able to achieve
Depends on what hormones you're talking about. Your body mostly increase estrogen production to maintain homeostasis. It doesn't increase androgen production because you injected a bunch of androgens into your bloodstream. >The moment you come off cycle you're going to have an estrogen rebound
Actually, it's just that your body has its test artificial elevated that for a time, the elevate estrogen production is the norm. Perhaps it may even decrease test production as part of maintaining homeostasis. This lasts a while since the esthers invented since the 50's allowed the synthetic androgens to last longer much in the bloodstream thanks to their greatly improved halflives. What happens is that your test production is reduced since your body doesn't make as much in order to maintain homeostasis while your estrogen production is greatly elevated to maintain homeostasis. So when you go off cycle, the only thing that happens is an eventually test sharply drops after the last dose breaks down while the estrogen production remains elevated and test production remains reduced for a while since it can take your body a bit to adapt. So it's not a rebound of estrogen production. That was always elevated on cycle. It's simply just a fairly sharp drop in test.
Another hormone that is elevate on cycle and remains elevated after going off cycle is cortisol. Elevated cortisol is what causes the post-cycle muscle loss and post-cycle fat gain.
The real paradigm shift will be gene therapy
Inject whatever wrapped in RNA, it occludes the receptors that accept the byproduct that stops your muscle growth, bam you get limitless response to lifting and begin to grow literally overnight, no side effects
The problem is that scientists aren't allowed to simply revolutionise bodybuilding and make a bajillion bucks, they have to frame it as "possible treatment for age-related sarcopenia" etc., it has to pretend to be treatment for the sick which then makes its way in shitty unsafe underground form to the masses
But it will, well within a couple of decades it looks like
Hey IST, op here. Can you give me legal roids that will have no side effects, no long term problems, no short term problems, and in general just be steroids but better and legal? Thanks me and the boys just started lifting weights today after listening to joe rogan talk about PEDs.
>Do ecdysteroids actually work?
Technically yes but not enough to see an actual improvement in your muscle mass or the gym. It's 99% placebo
>Will they not kill you like regular steroids?
Most steroids are pretty harmless, just stay away from tren
>harmless steroids
They are literally classified drugs like heroin and cocaine and they influence negatively most of your body parts short and/or long term.
>They are literally classified drugs like heroin and cocaine and they influence negatively most of your body parts short and/or long term.
post body dyel
I can tell you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
>my own hormone is trying to kill me
Just stay natty, maybe in 15 years you can get 10% close to the body you want.
>my own hormones
Let me guess, you're some broccoli topped kid who hopped on roids after going to the gym twice a week for a month didn't give you a bodybuilder physique overnight?
Roids work by increasing your hormone production to levels your body wouldn't normally by able to achieve. You can gain a ton of muscle this way, but it's muscle your body can't naturally support. The moment you come off cycle you're going to have an estrogen rebound and most of that muscle mass and strength you worked so "hard" to gain is going to melt away as your body struggles to restart its natural hormone production. Did you think you just got to keep the gains?
>but muh PCT
PCTs only work to minimize the post cycle decline. They negative effects are impossible to avoid. And you better be ready to start another cycle in a few months, every year for as long as you want to keep any amount of muscle mass, because the decline doesn't stop until you return to your baseline.
>I'll just stay on cycle forever then
Enjoy putting your heart through more stress than a 400lb lardass who eats 3 Big Macs a day. That's how you die in your 30s.
This is the shit the roid shills like Derek or whoever else you morons listen to never tell you about, because they benefit directly from convincing impressionable children and mentally ill men to start taking steroids.
>Roids work by increasing your hormone production to levels your body wouldn't normally by able to achieve
Depends on what hormones you're talking about. Your body mostly increase estrogen production to maintain homeostasis. It doesn't increase androgen production because you injected a bunch of androgens into your bloodstream.
>The moment you come off cycle you're going to have an estrogen rebound
Actually, it's just that your body has its test artificial elevated that for a time, the elevate estrogen production is the norm. Perhaps it may even decrease test production as part of maintaining homeostasis. This lasts a while since the esthers invented since the 50's allowed the synthetic androgens to last longer much in the bloodstream thanks to their greatly improved halflives. What happens is that your test production is reduced since your body doesn't make as much in order to maintain homeostasis while your estrogen production is greatly elevated to maintain homeostasis. So when you go off cycle, the only thing that happens is an eventually test sharply drops after the last dose breaks down while the estrogen production remains elevated and test production remains reduced for a while since it can take your body a bit to adapt. So it's not a rebound of estrogen production. That was always elevated on cycle. It's simply just a fairly sharp drop in test.
Another hormone that is elevate on cycle and remains elevated after going off cycle is cortisol. Elevated cortisol is what causes the post-cycle muscle loss and post-cycle fat gain.
>uhm they’re classified!!!!
in your third world shithole (america)
meme scam
I would never take anything with Turk in the name. I don't want to end up looking like a roach.
The real paradigm shift will be gene therapy
Inject whatever wrapped in RNA, it occludes the receptors that accept the byproduct that stops your muscle growth, bam you get limitless response to lifting and begin to grow literally overnight, no side effects
The problem is that scientists aren't allowed to simply revolutionise bodybuilding and make a bajillion bucks, they have to frame it as "possible treatment for age-related sarcopenia" etc., it has to pretend to be treatment for the sick which then makes its way in shitty unsafe underground form to the masses
But it will, well within a couple of decades it looks like
>no side effects
oops sorry your heart muscles underwent dangerous levels of hypertrophy and you died
no refunds 🙂
Just only target skeletal muscle
people forget that the heart is a muscle, the more it grows the harder it has to work, and you'll likely die from it.
Hey IST, op here. Can you give me legal roids that will have no side effects, no long term problems, no short term problems, and in general just be steroids but better and legal? Thanks me and the boys just started lifting weights today after listening to joe rogan talk about PEDs.
AC-262, won’t even shut you down
He was being satirical but tell me more please
He was being satirical but effectively described SARMs.
I took turkesterone for a while, didn't notice any difference at all