So I smoke meth(amphetamine) about once a month for fun and as something to really look forward to and was wondering if it could possibly hurt my gains/fitness? I'm a plumber so I need to stay in decent shape for work. I haven't noticed any health negatives yet but I do limit myself to 12 hour windows (I don't binge for days on end) and pop xanax and smoke weed when I hit that 12 hour mark to force myself to sleep and circumvent the comedown.
I just don't want any heart or lung problems or whatever sneaking up on me but I figured once a month shouldn't cause any major issues. I went to a cardiologist and got a full workup including a stress echocardiogram and they said everything looks great so for now I'm good.
Is meth as fun as it sounds?
Well it's "too good", if that makes sense. You are tricking your brain into making you feel as good as you can feel. This is both a good thing and a very bad thing. I don't reccomend trying it as you will never be able to forget it. It's like that "ooooohhhhh" feeling of an orgasm but much more intense and all over your entire body for like an hour (until you redose to get another "rush" which is insanely fricking addictive) and kind of stays for hours afterwards in the background but the stimulant head high is still there. Fapping feels unreal and you can go for literal hours it is dangerous. I personally like to blast music during the "rushes" and fap and play video games afterwards. very enjoyable. Entire albums FLY BY on meth and every sound is just so fascinating and amazing you are just mesmerized by the music. I will start at the first track of a 10 track album and then BOOM I'm at the last track, still rooted to the spot. With fapping you will literally fricking time travel it feels so good. It feels like every time you look to the lower right hand corner of your monitor another hour had passed. It's actually fricking nuts how that works I can totally understand how some guys jerk off for like 3 days straight on this shit it just feels so goddamn good and there is no "danger" of cumming, if that makes sense. You can just keep that amazing feeling going without having to "worry" about cumming and the whole thing ending. Again I do not reccomend unless you have kind of given up on yourself because if you're prone to stimulant addiction you will NEVER forget trying meth it will always be somewhere in your brain living rent free its like a fricking demon
i love jerking off, if i could do it all day i would
damn now i want to try meth
Why I would uniroically try meth I used to take high doses of Ritalin or even better do lines of coke and stay up all night fapping. I can't anymore because every time I do coke I feel like I'm being watched and get super paranoid, I think my dealer switched up and started cutting with something
Sounds like molly tbh
>Sounds like molly tbh
well, the MA in MDMA stands for methamphetamine
Completely different mechanism of action; MDMA is serotonergic and meth is dopaminergic. Chemistry doesn’t really work how you think it does based on the name of something
Also not really how chemistry works; but yeah, there’s a solid chance the person making your meth isn’t exactly a scrupulous chemist
>ompletely different mechanism of action; MDMA is serotonergic and meth is dopaminergic. Chemistry doesn’t really work how you think it does based on the name of something
wrong, both mdma and ma are dopaminergic and serotonergic, and they increase these neurotransmitters using similar methods (TAAR1 receptor agonism).
You can simulate this by taking PEA (phenylethlyamine) with selegiline.
Both available online without a prescription.
>well, the MA in MDMA stands for methamphetamine
God dam you are a moron.
it does sound like molly
It *literally* couldn’t be more different. If that’s what your “Molly” felt like, you were actually sold meth.
Molly releases more serotonin while meth broadly affects monoamines.
moron
You trying to convince anyone it doesn’t frick you up and those anons already fricked up just embarrassed on your behalf. This is why hard drugs are such a waste of time. I have a coworker who’s a tweaker and every day he’s stealing and using after work just so he doesn’t have to feel the withdrawals of being an addict.
What's it like when you eat instead of smoke?
I have only ever smoked. I'm guessing it's similar but takes longer to kick in. But smoking/injecting should give you the best rushes, which is one of the main draws of the drug and what I love about it it's like Initial D FAST I know why stims are called speed now. I'm real queasy around needles though and I like my veins so that's a no for me.
It absolutely is a demon. Never done it myself but seen what it does to people I knew my whole life. They are not the same person at all.
>I just don't want any heart or lung problems
It solidifies in the pipe as you smoke it. Report back in ten years and tell us how it affected your esophagus and bronchi.
Yes.
bump
i eat a rock every now and then and get the urge to work out, but don’t want to make my heart explode. i’m 22, that shit will catch up to you. it *may* be affecting my digestive health.
Nah man. How much do you smoke? Realistically the health impact is negligible. I’ve done between one and two POUNDS of coke (both powder and rock) and am fine after having an actual problem for years.
Meth is pretty fricked and it really ruins people even more so than crack because of the days on end of use; just be carefuk
>be careful
Yeah thats why I only do it once a month MAX. And I only do a few points per session, spaced out over 12 hours like I said. I don't need THAT much.
I don't really want to stop. I can't let go of that music euphoria it's something really special it's just extra-dimensional. I can never forget it. Gives me something to work for, like I salivate over expensive audiophile setups, now.
Been doin this almost all year and haven't broken my month rule once
It's for the best if you don't somethings you just aren't designd to feel it rewires, reorients your brain. I don't necessarily regret trying it but not trying it is honestly the better option. That kind of hedonic pleasure erodes your humanity in a way. It's kind of sick like you know you're "cheating" life to feel good.
It's rather similar ime I like that too
Wouldn't dream of so much as leaving my house on it holy
You’ve justified it already with such a pointless excuse. You already mentioned you are an addict by merely entertaining the whole situation. good luck moron.
You are cruising for a bad time in a few years. Please get help before it’s too late
You may very well be right. Problem is if I don't do drugs (meth being one of them) on the weekends then I find it really hard to get out of bed in the morning. I feel like I have nothing to work for. There's just no incentive for me to move. I know I have to get out of bed to lift and eat but then what? I go to work but for what? It just makes me miserable and makes me want to off myself with nothing to get excited about or look forward to. Life just isn't worth it without. I feel like with every minute I work, every mouthful of food I chew up and swallow, every rep I make and every stride or pedal stroke I pump out I am simply prolonging my misery. Just makes me want to quit my job, stop eating, and kill myself. No need to put up with the drudgery of life and keep up with bodily maintenance if this is it - waking up in the morning with no reason to get out of bed. Drugs light a fire under my ass and I fly out of bed in the morning; I'm excited about life.
Bro, that sounds really bad. Drugs should be the cherry on the top and not your reason to live. With that mindset you're going to crash badly in a few years.
Also what about the music? I can totally understand music hitting different when high, but does it bore you when sober? Go to concerts and raves (both high and sober).
It's just doesn't quite hit when I'm sober anymore. It's like...eh...Alright...Let me check my bank account real quick. Not something to live for.
Yeah I'm probably fricking up here but I have nothing else to do. I can't stand boredom and having nothing to look foward to. I need a "thing" to keep me going otherwise why put up with life's bullshit. I need something that makes it all worth it. Otherwise why not just kill myselt and roll the dice again. I'm not going to be a fricking zombie who just robots through their life making other people money. What the frick is in it for me
just smoke weed or something, you don't need to tweak tf out as your purpose in life, this is cope, find literally anything else in life to give you a reason to live but not hard drugs, you'll thank me later or you'll really wanna reroll
personally, id rather be black than a white tweaker
Fair point
I just oppose drugs in general, don't mind me
After i bought my first ounce and vape, ive used weed daily for 99.9% of my days. I don't recommend. It makes you content to be a weed, where you are satisfied with sunlight and water.
It's fricked my memory, and because I used it irresponsibly alongside video games, porn, and wasting time, it's seriously screwed my life trajectory up.
Even now, i can't really bring myself to quit, but instead I try to use it only in evenings and play the piano, to create more productive habits.
From what i've heard, quitting weed and returning to sober life is like taking off a weighted vest for a race.
I still love this plant, but its been an unhealthy relationship.
I've heard people say cocaine is the white mans drug but I can't afford it. I regularly thank god he has kept meth, opiods, and coke away from me because I know if I was hooked, i could seriously frick myself up hard.
im also a year sober off weed too, a year sober entirely, proud of myself too because most drug users never get away from substances. but if bro can't live life without getting fricked up, cant join the people that put it all down on the other side of life, well weed is objectively the best thing to use
yikes. Find god
listen to this audio book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61349491-wake-up-with-purpose
Fun fact: if you achieve something in life it feels good and you won't need drugs.
It probably wont affect you that much if you are heathy in all other regards, like excercise daily, dont drink, smoke. It´ll still frick with your brain though.
As an ex addict d say just dont fricking do it. This is how it starts. Forcing a comedown with xanax and weed makes your story even worse. This is how it start, you´re not an exception if you continue
>casual meth user
No such thing Black person
Holy CHECKED
What the frick is going on in this thread
>captcha: Y0GT0Y
Lmao now I'm always going to see those homeless people outside of the gas station and immediately think "These Black folk are posting on IST" Good luck OP
I don't remember the criteria for "abuse" but you can permanently blow out your attention capabilities due to its potency. Don't work out on it so you don't injure yourself @ dopaminergic stimulants is my general policy.
Just a lil recreational meth with the boys.
Bros does binging on addictive poison that they make out of batteries and drain cleaner negatively affect my gains?
Bro you are a junky it’s ok. Same goes for every other moron who says they do it once in a while. To top it off you morons are doing hard drugs at the height of the fentanyl epidemic. If anyone follows the pricing on drugs if your not an idiot. You would know we are still seeing the affects of overproduction from the Colombians and COVID’s effects on the market. Not to mention unless the plug is trust worthy you really aren’t even picking up good shit anymore and that goes for the cheap trash you poor sons of b***hes are laying up.
Stop smoking that shit ffs
What are you his fricking mom?
I don't know bro but you might die from the fentanyl that seeped into the drug supply so it's your choice.
>could one of the most physically addictive substances hurt my gains
Why yes it will
My only problem with meth is if i do it alone i chronicaly jerk off.
Is IST just filled with junkies now? Yes taking meth destroys your health. You just sound like every other druggie that refuses to get help cause they can "handle it"
Roids is a gateway to more drugs
take it from someone who knows, you're frickin up bro. was on meth for 2 years, can never get those years back, damaged my teeth, almost ruined family relationships and friends, if I'd kept going and not put that shit down, I would have. probably have a lot of health issues from it but I haven't let a doctor do a deep dive. it will change you and it will get the better of you, this one time a month shit absolutely will not last, your willpower however strong will not beat the unnatural feeling and properties of this drug especially as time goes on. listen to me or see the consequences. luckily it's the easiest shit in the world to get off of, there will be no withdrawals except an insatiable appetite and tons of sleeping and that's probably only if you used more than you do, I dropped it cold turkey and in a week the immense shame guaranteed I would never go back. tried it once more a year or so later and got physically sick lmao disgusting awful horrible drug. good luck hope you listen and don't let your already fricked up dopamine receptors don't get in the way of good sense before you get stupid enough to shoot that shit in your veins and know how good that shit feels
Druggies are just as bad as fatties and don't belong on this board
Go competitive or kys casualgay
Reminds me that I really need to stop giving dumbass junkies the time of day