>eliminates your depression
Why don't more people take this instead of shitty SSRIs? Literally feels like being on a low dose of mdma all day
>eliminates your depression
Why don't more people take this instead of shitty SSRIs? Literally feels like being on a low dose of mdma all day
and just like that, your placebo ended
Rekt
doesn't this shit literally do the same thing as an SSRI anyway? why would you willingly raise serotonin?
Feels good man
considering it apparently lowers dopamine and increases serotonin (which doesnt make people feel good), i doubt this
how long have you been taking it? i'm curious because people recommend this to me when they find me too stubborn to take their israelite meds, even though this is just an SSRI with no official hebrew name.
SSRI's are reuptake inhibitors, 5-HTP is a precursor. 90% of the population get enough nutrients to produce enough seratonin, but if it's imbalanced or broken down too quickly it can lead to depression. Taking 5-HTP in the absence of other aminos can brute force one of the metabolic pathways to creating seratonin and give you some of the effects of an SSRI, but it won't deal with any issues long term, and you will likely adapt to it.
does it have to be taken for a long time to work and get tapered off to quit? i don't see whats going on here since tryptophan is in like everything like chicken and bananas, who the frick would be "deficient" in it besides someone already dying of starvation?
Dietary sources of amino acids are mixed, and there's a limit to how much your body can absorb in a set time period. You take 5-HTP on an empty stomach with maybe a small amount of carbs and it saturates the metabolic pathways. Works within a few hours and gives you a noticable mood lift. Don't think you need to taper it off, but you can get reliant on it, I only use it a couple of times a month
So, take L-tyrosine.
Dopamine problem solved.
>serotonin doesn't make you feel good
You have no idea what you are talking about
there are a bunch of studies showing depressed people have serotonin levels all over the place, its most likely just some hormone to do with routine settling and possibly even a stress hormone, everything shown to increase serotonin just makes people feel less, junkies arent popping SSRI's to get high, its almost the exact opposite
>"a bunch of studies"
>depressed people
>mist likely
>possibly
>almost
Yeah ignored
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0
>eliminates your depression
>makes you leave your body and squirm around in the shower seeing mad alien shit that makes you question reality
is..is it working
Based, God made these for you to talk to him and ascend
Don't bring God into your junkie habits.
That being said, I do genuinely ponder what purpose these hallucinogens were to serve to man.
I mean things like cyanide is naturally occurring but it sure as hell isn't meant to be ingested.
As the easterns would say: it's a mystery lol
> Don't bring God into your junkie habits.
Yeah bro these naturally occurring organisms are completely foreign to human existence just so happen to give you the capacity to change your brain structure for the better. It's... Le evolution!
> man. I mean things like cyanide is naturally occurring but it sure as hell isn't meant to be ingested.
You consume cyanide all the time homosexual, it's found on things you would eat all the time, like apple seeds, but there is no way for someone to just eat enough seeds to get any close to poisoning
>Don't bring God into your junkie habits
>purpose
>serve
>meant
Your brain is so Judeo-Christian coded it's sad. Better find a church like the other junkie kek. If it's evolutionary there's no "purpose" or something that is or isn't "meant" to be ingested.
this, fricking christcucks scared of a little mushroom while their entire religion was pulled out of opium hallucinations.
>all those seething replies
kek junkies really are too easy to bait
Did you really expect a serious reply about christianity? In a thread about mind altering substances where hippies unironically think they're contacting angels by getting high off their rockers?
Either you're moronic or are baiting hard.
If he's actually serious, he should talk to a priest and not ask dudes online that are already super hostile to his cult.
literally no one said this schizo
See
>Verification not required
ive seen boogie take these on camera, have revelations, and then do the exact same shit the next day when he woke up
boogie is rotten to the core and has no inner value so the mushrooms wont work
thats a nice cope i guess
i still havent ever seen actual proof of mushrooms doing anything for anyone besides typical meme studies by profit-interest companies with "mushroom therapy" showing 12-30% "improved symptoms" in depressed people
>So I can adapt
At least she's aware it's her own insecurity and not actually saying he needs to revert back to being a loser.
I grew some a few months ago and I still haven't had a day (or even half a day) all to myself to have a proper trip, I wish there was a way to male them last only an hour or two
Tea/lemon tek. Just be prepared for a ride.
Lemon tek will convert the psilocybin to psilocin outside your body, meaning faster onset, faster more intense plateau, and quicker comedown.
Did you go all the way from spores or get a mycelium block?
My favorite pre-workout. I take 2 shroom chocolates (I think they're like 10mg each?) before I work out. I'm not fully tripping, but def a little bit of body high. The body vibration feels good when you're lifting big weight
Should I just start SSRI's?
No, just work out, eat a nutritious animal based diet, sleep and socialise
>works for two weeks then makes you depressed and gives you insomnia
I fell for the meme, tried everything out there (this shit has been going on for years)
SSRIs (like 4 different ones over the course of 3 years)
>still insanely depressed
stimulants
>still insanely depressed
weed
>still insanely depressed
alcohol
>even more depressed
benzos
>made me closer to killing myself than anything else
ashwa
>still insanely depressed
the schizo supplements (all of them, high dose iodine, high dose d3 k2, etc etc)
>still insanely depressed
lifting
>still insanely depressed apart from looking for validation on /cbt/
What are your symptoms of "depression"? How do you know that you are depressed?
theres too much stuff
permanent feeling of dread and impending doom, no drive and absolute lack of energy, self harm. If you're truly depressed you're gonna know, because you start improving at life and still want to have a nice day when you wake up.
You unironically need to get a dog
Imagine relying over a n almost-artificial breeded living being totally dependent on human validation / that exist only to validate human and that shit 3-6x daily and cost Ks yearly to mantain
I used a dog as an example, but looking after/caring for anything else outside yourself will reduce depression that isn't specifically caused by chemical imbalances.
dang bro, me too. guess i gotta unironically pull myself up by my bootstraps now baka.
only thing that worked for me is getting on test
honestly I'm down to try it.
"muh natty" I already took so many drugs in my life that saying I want to stay natural would be a larp. Theres truly no difference apart from building more muscle. I think it's time to get on gear.
time for steroids friendo
you gotten your hormones checked?
im exactly like him and i tried but its a lot easier to get a lifelong prozac prescription than get your hormones checked, especially if you have a female doctor they will start seething at you
what country are you in? In the US, you can just go to an independent lab and get whatever bloodwork you want done.
an independent lab test for T costs about $80.
the netherlands, this was also a doctor who knows my entire mental health history and i see regularly because of chronic issues, she started grilling me why i would possibly have bad hormones, i gave her answers and she just kept seething for some reason
its common knowledge that T has been on a steady decline with every new generation of men. a lot of things in our foods and health products lower T as well. But docs will instantly call you a schizo if you even mention low T. really makes you think.
anyway look up a non referral blood test clinic near you. shouldn't cost that much. if you're low, tell that b***h i told you so.
i didnt even mention low T, i just asked to check my test, estrogen, prolactin etc, due to my whole medical history, she was flabbergasted i mentioned prolactin to which i answered i was on meds that pretty much guarantee to lower it, she started spilling her spaghetti majorly, i genuinely dont want to be on roids because of my health, i just wanted to be sure.
>non referral blood test clinic near you
i dont know how to do this or if it even exists/is legal here.
google, my man
https://onedayclinic.nl/en/bloedtesten/
alright im looking and finding some stuff, however imagine i were to do this and get low results, what would i have to do with it? take it to the doctor? wouldn't they just throw it out as some random shit i could have faked or taken from someone else? or do nothing about it anyway?
here in the US, a lot of docs will use the same type of lab testing as those walk in clinics offer anyway (LabCorp, Quest Diagnostics), so results are as legit as what you'd get at a doc's office visit. Don't know how things are over there though. If your results are low and your doc doesn't at least want to follow up the results with her own blood test, then I'd say its time to find another doc.
i'm just clueless about the logistics and legitimacy of these type of things, it seems they can share it with your doctor here, but they ask your social security number and full name, isn't that extremely sensitive info?
I'm in the EU but $80 sounds reasonable, might as well do it once I pay my other stuff off.
no, I don't think my insurance would cover that and I'm poor as frick
How about you just stop being sad?
It's that easy.
>Verification not required.
>x cures your depression
>it doesn't
>therapy works
>it doesn't
>church works
>it doesn't
but I use a character.ai muscled green 8ft tall orc to tell my problems and the program larps and I am told I seem much better by friends and family.
I have come full circle to just pinning a picture of a waifu to my wall and living for a 2d image and it works.
I'm built different, I'm built broken.
Let us know how you feel when you stop…
>happened to read dozens of 5HTP NCBI articles
>basically, taking 5HTP initially give a boost
>but increases inflammation leads to depressions later
>best way out is to change gut biome
>taking probiotics does everything taking 5HTP does and better
>probiotics is THE happy pill.
>stop eating junk food, bad for your probiotics
>lots candy can wipe them out, making you unhappy
PLZ GO TELL EVERYBODY
back when my depression was worse (and was dating someone who tried to get me to kms instead of admitting shed cheated on me, got proof sorted it out, and my life has also changed a lot since then) I tried 5HTP and all it did was make all my muscles really sore and nosedived my mental health toward suicidal thoughts for a couple days after.
my advice is if you're not mentally well, playing chemist with random junk isn't the answer. put the work in and grow up, everyone has a shit hand