I would safe some compound that would allow me to recover and heal faster and train more if one with zero toxicity and virilisation exists. But rn risks overweight the possible benefits.
doesnt matter. you either roid or you dont lift. theres no inbetween because natty lifting does nothing. you wont even build a single pound of muscle in 10 years with natty lifting
even the nattys who might look like they have some gains, they are merely bloated with glycogen, inflammation, blood and water in the muscle tissue, making it temporarily seem like they got bigger
Take any natty and make him quit the gym for 2 weeks and he will come back looking like hes back to square one, zero gains
>Take any natty and make him quit the gym for 2 weeks and he will come back looking like hes back to square one, zero gains
The funny part is that this only applies to roiders.
patently false. roiders dont lose their gains because the compounds they use allows the body to override the inherent anti hypertrophic mechanisms the body has, such as myostation, cortisol, protein turnover etc.
ONLY people on roids are capable of building actual contractile tissue. it is simply not possible if you are natty
Take a roider's syringe away. And in just a few months all will be gone. If he's lucky he will stay somewhere along his natty limit. Remember that natty training takes knowledge, dedication and most importantly, patience. If you didn't want to train for some months that's on you. That's on you for believing that training a week = training a year.
While what you're saying as far as roids are concerned is true, you definitely don't know much about natty lifting.
2 months ago
natty lifting does nothing
yea its not like i wasted 5 years training natty, 2 hours every single day
youre a novice, a rookie, you revealed your hand. you are so new to lifting that you have yet to realize the futility of it
youll learn one day padawan
2 months ago
Anonymous
If in 5 years you really did not see any improvement, then you did it all wrong. Fortunately roids spoonfeed the gains for you.
good for you, youll be the only one who cares about that. and if youre natty you wont even get big enough to atleast earn the fear and respect from other men
total pointless waste of time
even someone with shit training and diet will make more gains than a min maxxing natty, look at sam sulek bro, guy does frick all for training, eats half a gallon of chocolate milk a day
sadly sam wont get girls with his body, he doesnt have the frame height or insertions to be aesthetic
>sadly sam wont get girls with his body, he doesnt have the frame height or insertions to be aesthetic
biggest cope, all the roider influencers Sam included have a massive following, his dms are undoubtedly full of fan girls or roasties trying to get clout.
Sam doesnt rly need to be a tall Chad, he has something most girls find attractive: social status and fame, that is enough for most dumb tik tok zoomettes to go to bed with some1
look at Asmongold, never lifted a single weight in his life, looks like some cave troll and has fricked 8/10s because he is famous
>asmon mold having sex with a woman
that is a horrific mental image... the wienerroaches, the mold... thanks anon.
2 months ago
Anonymous
asmon been fricking fans while being a 3/10 looking schizo, nothing matters when ur famous, and rich lol
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah it is a real blackpill, i saw a literal 9.5/10 walking on the trail earlier and realized i looked like i was going through chemotherapy while also having AIDS, the only good thing i had going for me was my clothes were clean and i smiled at her. pale as frick, sunken in eyes with a dead look in them, purple rings around them, 5 o clock shadow on my hollow cheekbones... im sure she just thought >get away get away get away please dont say hi
or >jesus christ this guy is walking around looking at birds and squirrels chuckling and smiling >his doctor probably told him hes gonna die soon thats so terrible
closest thing to that would be ipamorelin. the increase in recovery and healing would be very low although not entirely negligible, although the side effects you want to avoid are almost entirely nonexistent with that peptide.
so yeah, gotta pay the piper either way. want more results gotta deal with more side effects...
my limited experience would tend to agree, but i was moreso talking about peptides. if someone just wanted a little boost to their recovery without much if any side effects something like ipamorelin would be the best candidate. save for the possibility of insulin resistance but theres a 90% chance that wont happen, your pancreas either has to be already fricked or you were born with acromegaly and managed to suppress it with treatment. then obviously you wouldnt want to take it
tried them all. they are cardio in a pill but gives you a weird brain foggy buzz and insomnia
its only tren that really fricks with people, other compounds arent an issue at all
npp, primo, all methylated orals. prohormones, sarms
Lots of things makes me feel terrible, not just tren
its crazy that even gigachads get into roids, just gets to show how competitive the market is, and natty tards think they can make it by natty turding for 10 years while being an average dude lol
>prohormones
i wonder why epistane made me feel like god but other of the old ass pre ban prohormones made me feel like shit. cant be liver toxicity because i thought epistane was just as bad as the rest
2 months ago
natty lifting does nothing
i was just looking at epistane the other day. it was a good one wasnt it. They say it lowers estrogen, could be why
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah if i recall it was one of the prohormones that was marketed as such, but were literally just steroids. it just happened that their metabolites were more potent, which is the case for a lot of orals i thought. think i just read somewhere that anadrol has like 40 active metabolites? if true, thats insane who knows what each one is doing to interact with the body
2 months ago
natty lifting does nothing
40
the more the merrier
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah true, part of me wants an oral that just turns into every single compound but then i realize having thousands of metabolites of tren deca MENT EQ etc etc would probably come with crippling side effects
2 months ago
natty lifting does nothing
npp, primo, GH and some superdrol is pretty sweet for gains
I however do not mind injecting every compound and taking every oral, the more the merrier, cover all bases
>virilisation
a condition in which a female develops characteristics associated with male hormones (androgens), or when a newborn has characteristics of male hormone exposure at birth
even someone with shit training and diet will make more gains than a min maxxing natty, look at sam sulek bro, guy does frick all for training, eats half a gallon of chocolate milk a day
doesnt matter. you either roid or you dont lift. theres no inbetween because natty lifting does nothing. you wont even build a single pound of muscle in 10 years with natty lifting
even the nattys who might look like they have some gains, they are merely bloated with glycogen, inflammation, blood and water in the muscle tissue, making it temporarily seem like they got bigger
Take any natty and make him quit the gym for 2 weeks and he will come back looking like hes back to square one, zero gains
but like i said its a catch22.
90% of people shouldnt lift weights, because you MUST roid if you want ANY gains whatsoever, but only a small percentage of people have the frame, height, insertions to look aesthetic once they get gains
This narrows down the population of people who should lift*roid* to a very small percentage, everyone else should just not go to the gym at all they are wasting their time
you're a genuine moron have a nice day
post your disgusting roided body lets see how you stack up
90% of people shouldnt lift weights, because you MUST roid if you want ANY gains whatsoever, but only a small percentage of people have the frame, height, insertions to look aesthetic once they get gains
This narrows down the population of people who should lift*roid* to a very small percentage, everyone else should just not go to the gym at all they are wasting their time
I feel bad for you lol, your genes must be shit if you think that's not achievable natty. Just look at him in the before photo. Most of the muscle is already there.
he literally has acne in the after pic. Ofc he used sarms or some shit.
Not natty like all the other zoomie tiktokers. But atleast they understand that roids are a must, unlike you nattard
2 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
youve been refuted, just accept it and surrender
you havent posted ur natty (roided) achievable body yet
lmao u can lat raise 50kgs but ull never have those veiny cannonball shoulders as a natty, stop coping bro
I don't know why you feel the need to remove your name every few posts, but to respond to all one of you.. You're wrong, and the reason you'll never believe me is because in YOUR experience (that of an inferior male) it really would be impossible to look like this without roiding. I'm sure that much is true. But when I say these physiques are achievable natty, I have in mind a 75th percentile man at least.
2 months ago
natty lifting does nothing
i never remove my name. i hate natty lifters with a passion, more precisely i hate natty lifters that stay natty. nothing displays stupidity harder than doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result
eventually you MUST use roids, otherwise you are plain low iq
2 months ago
Anonymous
you are moronic if you think OP is natty >natty achievable in 30 years with perfect diet, born in a captain america chamber
kek
2 months ago
Anonymous
See now that guy is most likely on some sort of steroid. Too bad he looks like a circus freak.
2 months ago
natty lifting does nothing
both left and right is roided
Well that's just simply not true.
take a 2 week break from the gym. then come back and tell me if you lost all your natty gains. You will, because nattys dont build any gains to begin with
it is biologically impossible to overcome the counter hypotrophic mechanisms inherent to the human body. Your body DOES NOT want any additional muscle on you, its a waste of energy to have it.
i know hundreds of natty lifters who ive seen train for 7 years uninterrupted and they all look smaller, the same or worse after 7 years of natty training
2 months ago
Anonymous
>after steroids vs way after steroids
2 months ago
Anonymous
I just dont get your logic. Literally nobody in the history has ever reached these physiques naturally and neither have you. What exactly are you basing your arguement of them being natty achievable?
"Oohh so easy natty, could be natty with good genetics" ? Okay? And who achieved that? Nobody? Exactly my point.
its crazy that even gigachads get into roids, just gets to show how competitive the market is, and natty tards think they can make it by natty turding for 10 years while being an average dude lol
No im fine, i get mires regularly, and i dont have to attach the fact that i frauded to all my lifts or my fizuk, it is all my accomplishment, and my balls still work
homie str8 up mentioned BJJ and HIIT when he just pinned some needle in his ass
mfers be lyin on reddit these days to farm upvotes, how sad people can be
The schizo in this thread thinks lifting is about getting big when no -morons know that lifting is about getting strong and staying healthy. You can cheat with roids to get big and strong but you are destroying your health out of vanity unless you are able to convert your roided physiques into large sums of money.
If you are above 5'9 then natty lifting will do nothing for you, it'll take minimum 10 years for you to start filling ur frame. If you didn't start lifting at 15yo then most of you will be closer to ur 30s which is when test starts going down.
I'd say the best strategy is to blast for a few months then maintain the physique you acquired with a low dose test which is far beyond natty limit.
5'9 to 6'1 are the only heights it makes sense to roid for aesthetics.
Under 5'9 and the stimulus from walking will balloon their legs into trex. They look better proportionally with natty gymnast builds. Over 6'1 and they're tall enough that bulky muscles don't matter as much as they can lean into the athletic model look.
>Over 6'1 and they're tall enough that bulky muscles don't matter as much as they can lean into the athletic model look.
just say you are a dyel homosexual so i don't have to read some homosexual dyels opinion next time
PCT [post cycle therapy] is something you do *after* the cycle. PCT is taking a SERM [Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator], which tricks your body into releasing a ton of LH and FSH => kick-starts your testicles back to life.
Recommended SERMs for PCT are Nolvadex [tried and tested] and Enclomiphene [new and allegedly better but less data], you take them for 6-8 weeks.
This is the best resource for everything about steroids.
https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index
I would not recommend doing an oral-only cycle [anavar]. The reward is incredibly low for low-medium risk.
You are shutting off your nuts and going from automatic to manual [and taking a hepatoxic drug] for six weeks of Anavar gains (almost nothing). There’s risk and the reward is miniscule
2 months ago
Anonymous
>You are shutting off your nuts and going from automatic to manual [and taking a hepatoxic drug]
The nuts come back to normal after and the toxicity is nonexistent if you have a functioning liver/kidney and aren't going above 30mg/day. Zero documented cases of hepatotox or long term endocrine dysfunction in clinical trials on humans.
My roidgay friend told me to take clomid for my gyno from being a fatty. It helped a bit but then he told me to stop taking it and didn't give an alternative. Got anything? I tried asking /fraud/ a few times but they just ignored the question.
I would if
I had a consistent supply line and supply quality.
Knew enough about endocrinology to fix what goes wrong.
Could get anonymous blood work results back in less than a week.
And
Had some clue of what to do when I travel or reach my goals.
I already have all the downsides: >bald >backne >gyno >moronic traps
might as well roid but I'm too lazy for that, I wouldn't do my bloodwork as often as necessary tbf
It's no secret. I'm a noble natty and proud of it but if I can't hack it I'm gonna help myself out. I'm lifting every single day and If I don't bench 3pl8 and get to 24ffmi this year I am going to roid.
Nah
I would safe some compound that would allow me to recover and heal faster and train more if one with zero toxicity and virilisation exists. But rn risks overweight the possible benefits.
doesnt matter. you either roid or you dont lift. theres no inbetween because natty lifting does nothing. you wont even build a single pound of muscle in 10 years with natty lifting
even the nattys who might look like they have some gains, they are merely bloated with glycogen, inflammation, blood and water in the muscle tissue, making it temporarily seem like they got bigger
Take any natty and make him quit the gym for 2 weeks and he will come back looking like hes back to square one, zero gains
>Take any natty and make him quit the gym for 2 weeks and he will come back looking like hes back to square one, zero gains
The funny part is that this only applies to roiders.
patently false. roiders dont lose their gains because the compounds they use allows the body to override the inherent anti hypertrophic mechanisms the body has, such as myostation, cortisol, protein turnover etc.
ONLY people on roids are capable of building actual contractile tissue. it is simply not possible if you are natty
Take a roider's syringe away. And in just a few months all will be gone. If he's lucky he will stay somewhere along his natty limit. Remember that natty training takes knowledge, dedication and most importantly, patience. If you didn't want to train for some months that's on you. That's on you for believing that training a week = training a year.
While what you're saying as far as roids are concerned is true, you definitely don't know much about natty lifting.
yea its not like i wasted 5 years training natty, 2 hours every single day
youre a novice, a rookie, you revealed your hand. you are so new to lifting that you have yet to realize the futility of it
youll learn one day padawan
If in 5 years you really did not see any improvement, then you did it all wrong. Fortunately roids spoonfeed the gains for you.
its fine. youll understand eventually
I dont care really, I just like moving relatively heavy objects around.
good for you, youll be the only one who cares about that. and if youre natty you wont even get big enough to atleast earn the fear and respect from other men
total pointless waste of time
sadly sam wont get girls with his body, he doesnt have the frame height or insertions to be aesthetic
>sadly sam wont get girls with his body, he doesnt have the frame height or insertions to be aesthetic
biggest cope, all the roider influencers Sam included have a massive following, his dms are undoubtedly full of fan girls or roasties trying to get clout.
fair enough. you got me there
Sam doesnt rly need to be a tall Chad, he has something most girls find attractive: social status and fame, that is enough for most dumb tik tok zoomettes to go to bed with some1
look at Asmongold, never lifted a single weight in his life, looks like some cave troll and has fricked 8/10s because he is famous
>asmon mold having sex with a woman
that is a horrific mental image... the wienerroaches, the mold... thanks anon.
asmon been fricking fans while being a 3/10 looking schizo, nothing matters when ur famous, and rich lol
yeah it is a real blackpill, i saw a literal 9.5/10 walking on the trail earlier and realized i looked like i was going through chemotherapy while also having AIDS, the only good thing i had going for me was my clothes were clean and i smiled at her. pale as frick, sunken in eyes with a dead look in them, purple rings around them, 5 o clock shadow on my hollow cheekbones... im sure she just thought
>get away get away get away please dont say hi
or
>jesus christ this guy is walking around looking at birds and squirrels chuckling and smiling
>his doctor probably told him hes gonna die soon thats so terrible
>YOU CAN'T ENJOY A HOBBY! THAT'S A WORTHLESS WASTE OF TIME!
Lol homosexual
>earn the fear and respect from other men
Is this some none American thing? Over here all men are made equal under the gun.
i have to lift or my brain go 🙁
Well that's just simply not true.
stfu dumb homosexual
Go frick yourself c**t.
does this even count as bait? why are people responding and actually getting mad >_<
Because they are n*tties and are having n*tty rage
closest thing to that would be ipamorelin. the increase in recovery and healing would be very low although not entirely negligible, although the side effects you want to avoid are almost entirely nonexistent with that peptide.
so yeah, gotta pay the piper either way. want more results gotta deal with more side effects...
roids take a tremendous toll on your mental and physical well being.
as soon as you start to use any other compound besides test, then you will feel like utter shit
most people cant even stay on tren for more than 2 weeks without going bonkers
my limited experience would tend to agree, but i was moreso talking about peptides. if someone just wanted a little boost to their recovery without much if any side effects something like ipamorelin would be the best candidate. save for the possibility of insulin resistance but theres a 90% chance that wont happen, your pancreas either has to be already fricked or you were born with acromegaly and managed to suppress it with treatment. then obviously you wouldnt want to take it
sr9009, GW71 and GW51
tried them all. they are cardio in a pill but gives you a weird brain foggy buzz and insomnia
npp, primo, all methylated orals. prohormones, sarms
Lots of things makes me feel terrible, not just tren
indeed
>prohormones
i wonder why epistane made me feel like god but other of the old ass pre ban prohormones made me feel like shit. cant be liver toxicity because i thought epistane was just as bad as the rest
i was just looking at epistane the other day. it was a good one wasnt it. They say it lowers estrogen, could be why
yeah if i recall it was one of the prohormones that was marketed as such, but were literally just steroids. it just happened that their metabolites were more potent, which is the case for a lot of orals i thought. think i just read somewhere that anadrol has like 40 active metabolites? if true, thats insane who knows what each one is doing to interact with the body
40
the more the merrier
yeah true, part of me wants an oral that just turns into every single compound but then i realize having thousands of metabolites of tren deca MENT EQ etc etc would probably come with crippling side effects
npp, primo, GH and some superdrol is pretty sweet for gains
I however do not mind injecting every compound and taking every oral, the more the merrier, cover all bases
its only tren that really fricks with people, other compounds arent an issue at all
Just take 500mg test very little risk
>yeah bro. very little risk
*takes finasteride/dutasteride*
nothin' personnel, DHTcel
>virilisation
a condition in which a female develops characteristics associated with male hormones (androgens), or when a newborn has characteristics of male hormone exposure at birth
Damn post breasts
I mean yea, but you cant turn shit into diamonds even with roids, so roiding is a futile endevaour for the vast majority of nattys
even someone with shit training and diet will make more gains than a min maxxing natty, look at sam sulek bro, guy does frick all for training, eats half a gallon of chocolate milk a day
you're a genuine moron have a nice day
post your disgusting roided body lets see how you stack up
he's a namegay who's brown kek of course he's moronic
but like i said its a catch22.
90% of people shouldnt lift weights, because you MUST roid if you want ANY gains whatsoever, but only a small percentage of people have the frame, height, insertions to look aesthetic once they get gains
This narrows down the population of people who should lift*roid* to a very small percentage, everyone else should just not go to the gym at all they are wasting their time
Only in my 40s, if i don't croak.
I don't understand your point. His physique is very good for a natty.
>thinking that guy is natty, lol, lmao even
I feel bad for you lol, your genes must be shit if you think that's not achievable natty. Just look at him in the before photo. Most of the muscle is already there.
Black person that guy just admitted to roids on his post, how braindead can natties be?
have you achieved that physique natty? then post it, moron
I'm not gay. And I don't go on reddit either. But I do know you're a genelet.
One of these things is not true
u must believe this is natty achievable aswell, moron dog natty
Yes, obviously achievable natty. This guy just does a lot of lateral raises. And he has good genes to do it natty, unlike you
he literally has acne in the after pic. Ofc he used sarms or some shit.
Not natty like all the other zoomie tiktokers. But atleast they understand that roids are a must, unlike you nattard
I don't know why you feel the need to remove your name every few posts, but to respond to all one of you.. You're wrong, and the reason you'll never believe me is because in YOUR experience (that of an inferior male) it really would be impossible to look like this without roiding. I'm sure that much is true. But when I say these physiques are achievable natty, I have in mind a 75th percentile man at least.
i never remove my name. i hate natty lifters with a passion, more precisely i hate natty lifters that stay natty. nothing displays stupidity harder than doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result
eventually you MUST use roids, otherwise you are plain low iq
you are moronic if you think OP is natty
>natty achievable in 30 years with perfect diet, born in a captain america chamber
kek
See now that guy is most likely on some sort of steroid. Too bad he looks like a circus freak.
both left and right is roided
take a 2 week break from the gym. then come back and tell me if you lost all your natty gains. You will, because nattys dont build any gains to begin with
it is biologically impossible to overcome the counter hypotrophic mechanisms inherent to the human body. Your body DOES NOT want any additional muscle on you, its a waste of energy to have it.
i know hundreds of natty lifters who ive seen train for 7 years uninterrupted and they all look smaller, the same or worse after 7 years of natty training
>after steroids vs way after steroids
I just dont get your logic. Literally nobody in the history has ever reached these physiques naturally and neither have you. What exactly are you basing your arguement of them being natty achievable?
"Oohh so easy natty, could be natty with good genetics" ? Okay? And who achieved that? Nobody? Exactly my point.
youve been refuted, just accept it and surrender
you havent posted ur natty (roided) achievable body yet
lmao u can lat raise 50kgs but ull never have those veiny cannonball shoulders as a natty, stop coping bro
The acne is not helping. Also, roiding for that?
It’s is you moron
if people knew that every single semi pro athlete is juiced to the gills
even chess players use steroids as performance enhancers
Yeah maybe, it makes sense. But maybe not.
Both of these are achievable naturally
theres a reason why only a handful of people get the admiration from lifting, such as david laid, zyzz, carlton loth, etc
its because its a rare combination to both be a roider and have the frame insertions height to achieve aesthetics with the utilization of roids
Theres probably like 1 out of a 1000 lifters who can become aesthetic, and then they need to be willing to roid to achieve said aesthetics
only roids can create this body
Natty lifting cant even take you a tenth of the way towards achieving this look
its crazy that even gigachads get into roids, just gets to show how competitive the market is, and natty tards think they can make it by natty turding for 10 years while being an average dude lol
>then everybody shits on gymthots taking selfies
The duality of man. What's the difference with this attention roided man-prostitute?
Dude looks like shit. Like a cheap Chinese toy
only with roids
I am balding hard and I still will not touch roids
No im fine, i get mires regularly, and i dont have to attach the fact that i frauded to all my lifts or my fizuk, it is all my accomplishment, and my balls still work
Yeah, all these roid monkeys, post ball pic with physique.
homie str8 up mentioned BJJ and HIIT when he just pinned some needle in his ass
mfers be lyin on reddit these days to farm upvotes, how sad people can be
keen observation, agreed
theres just one thing you missed. He is also on roids in the before pic
Only roiders know
Fat roiders maybe. I've never been fat so I don't know.
test
>test
The schizo in this thread thinks lifting is about getting big when no -morons know that lifting is about getting strong and staying healthy. You can cheat with roids to get big and strong but you are destroying your health out of vanity unless you are able to convert your roided physiques into large sums of money.
If you are above 5'9 then natty lifting will do nothing for you, it'll take minimum 10 years for you to start filling ur frame. If you didn't start lifting at 15yo then most of you will be closer to ur 30s which is when test starts going down.
I'd say the best strategy is to blast for a few months then maintain the physique you acquired with a low dose test which is far beyond natty limit.
5'9 to 6'1 are the only heights it makes sense to roid for aesthetics.
Under 5'9 and the stimulus from walking will balloon their legs into trex. They look better proportionally with natty gymnast builds. Over 6'1 and they're tall enough that bulky muscles don't matter as much as they can lean into the athletic model look.
>Over 6'1 and they're tall enough that bulky muscles don't matter as much as they can lean into the athletic model look.
just say you are a dyel homosexual so i don't have to read some homosexual dyels opinion next time
The only thing I don't believe about your pic is the age of the dude.
is this achievable natty?
Yes.
I don't secretly want to roid. I want to roid. I just won't do it because I don't want to have a heart attack and liver failure.
Anavar only at clinical burn victim dosage.
Would that do anything for gains? Isn't that going to kill my T production?
Yes, only temporarily. You might not notice if you're not tracking your weight and eating/training properly.
I train 5 days a week and track my lifts and my calories obsessively.
Would you take PCT with anavar or just on its own? Is this something you have done?
How long would you do it for?
On its own, one month, no pct necessary, I've done it as have some other anons here.
>I just won't do it because I don't want to have a heart attack and liver failure.
300-500mg of testosterone for 15-20 weeks
What about PCT? There's too much conflicting information for me to be comfortable. I'll probably do it next year after some more research.
PCT [post cycle therapy] is something you do *after* the cycle. PCT is taking a SERM [Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator], which tricks your body into releasing a ton of LH and FSH => kick-starts your testicles back to life.
Recommended SERMs for PCT are Nolvadex [tried and tested] and Enclomiphene [new and allegedly better but less data], you take them for 6-8 weeks.
This is the best resource for everything about steroids.
https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index
I would not recommend doing an oral-only cycle [anavar]. The reward is incredibly low for low-medium risk.
>The reward is incredibly low for low-medium risk.
low reward, almost no risk.
You are shutting off your nuts and going from automatic to manual [and taking a hepatoxic drug] for six weeks of Anavar gains (almost nothing). There’s risk and the reward is miniscule
>You are shutting off your nuts and going from automatic to manual [and taking a hepatoxic drug]
The nuts come back to normal after and the toxicity is nonexistent if you have a functioning liver/kidney and aren't going above 30mg/day. Zero documented cases of hepatotox or long term endocrine dysfunction in clinical trials on humans.
My roidgay friend told me to take clomid for my gyno from being a fatty. It helped a bit but then he told me to stop taking it and didn't give an alternative. Got anything? I tried asking /fraud/ a few times but they just ignored the question.
https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/the_estrogen_handbook#wiki_gyno_reversal_protocols
ralox is all you need
I love sucking black wieners yummy jigaboo jizz
I will roid after having all my children, but I won't become infertile for muscles before that, that would please the israelite.
There's no reason to marry and have children in this cucked gynocentric society.
He looks great tbh, not everyone is interested in becoming a roid troony with ridiculous muscles and getting liver failure before 40
I would if
I had a consistent supply line and supply quality.
Knew enough about endocrinology to fix what goes wrong.
Could get anonymous blood work results back in less than a week.
And
Had some clue of what to do when I travel or reach my goals.
I'll roid in my late 60s early 70s because at that point who the frick cares lmao
At that point it doesn't count as roiding since TRT can even improve quality of life and lifespan.
I have so many injuries, I can't even lift much as a natty anymore, so what would be the point of roiding?
I already have all the downsides:
>bald
>backne
>gyno
>moronic traps
might as well roid but I'm too lazy for that, I wouldn't do my bloodwork as often as necessary tbf
The idea of taking HRT scares me, but you're right, there is a small part of me that wonders what it would be like if I went down that dark path.
No. My kidneys would suicide.
It's no secret. I'm a noble natty and proud of it but if I can't hack it I'm gonna help myself out. I'm lifting every single day and If I don't bench 3pl8 and get to 24ffmi this year I am going to roid.
>buy muscles
>pretend you earned them with exercise
lol roidies
>Y-you cheated!
Yes, and?
I laff @u
Seems legit