Exacly how harmful is alcohol for building muscle, it only affect muscle recovery?
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Exacly how harmful is alcohol for building muscle, it only affect muscle recovery?
Protein synthesis, less money for good diet, empty carbs, and missing workouts because of hangovers
Doesn't a small amount of alcohol help blood flow? Or is that just wine?
It does.
I have experimented with a lot of pre-workout stuff and drugs, and taking 2/3rds of a shot of whiskey will allow better lifts, less fatigue.
However as with anything - less (more rare) is more. Do it regularly and it doesnt work.
Regarding drinking as an eastern euro it is common to drink A LOT but i caan def say that it ruins deep sleep and thus HGH secretion and thus gains.
Do not drink often and not a lot.
I have stopped drinking altogether drom NY and i assume i will only ever touch the sruff at major celebrations, so like 5x a year.
>Protein synthesis
I hate it when some moron shits this out. The only studies about alcohol's effect on protein synthesis were made by guys who were blackout drunk, They literally instructed the subjects to drink till they pass out. The studies literally say nothing about how bad a drink or two is on protein synthesis.
>"Yeah turns out poisoning yourself with alcohol fricks up your bodily functions"
Did money really need to be spent on such a study?
>The only studies about alcohol's effect on protein synthesis were made by guys who were blackout drunk
were they drunk the whole time they wrote their paper?
can confirm. currently in bed with a hangover after waking up 4 hours late, not doing my cardio, and feeling like shit. probably gonna skip the gym today.
>t. hungover 30 year old
i could drink 2x as much as i did yesterday and wake up the next day only having to piss excessively
If you care about your fitness, don't drink moron
This is the only right opinion, if you care about health and fitness DONT DRINK ALCOHOL. Ignore all the homosexuals that will start coping with their alcohol consumption. If you want to drink go ahead, I ain't your dad and nobody can stop just stop pretending it's good for your fitness goals.
This 10 dollar book is all it took. No AA. No treatment. Went from being terminally drunk chewing gum at work to never drinking. It was east too, once you get over the withdrawal you never want it again.
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If you apply the moderation rule then it's fine
You should never get drunk. If you drink to the point where your mood or perception changes, you are a loser. Take the British gentleman pale: Have a cheeky small ale at the pub on the way home, and that's it.
>drugs are fine, but make sure to stop before there is any noticeable drug effect. that's not the reason for drugs
lets say i get a good workout today, how a few beers the day after will affect my progress
It will affect your sleep, even if you wont feel it mentally.
Alco also is so mild it is easy to get into a habit aand later into addiction. As you are younger the spees of metabolism allows drinking with almost no visible physical consequences but once the habit forms it wwill bite you in the ass after age 25/30
homie have you tried a simple google search? This shit is well researched.
Drinking liquor, even a little, during muscle growth cuts gains by ~25%.
If your looking for validation to keep drinking go down to the pub
It's far from well researched, and you completely mischaracterize the findings of the studies.
Guys, I talked to a nurse about my alcoholism and she suggested possibly Antabuse treatment but I refused thinking I can quit with willpower alone as I don't want to start taking drugs. Did I take the correct choice?
>Did I take the correct choice?
yes. quitting alcohol is easy, just keep yourself occupied, or get another addiction which is less damaging. For example cbd weed works to switch from alcohol in my opinion, i don't get high but there is "something" and that "something" is often good enough.
Antabus is a choice as well, makes you not able to drink but if you are a serious alcoholic you can drink through it.
>These are not toes, though the patient is able to manipulate them.
>cbd weed works
nta; what it's like?
>what it's like?
Cannabis light without the high. You feel "something", a bit lighter. That's all, still satisfying in some way.
Depends how much u drink.
I have a friend who was a big drunkard and he is slowly reliesing his addiction and aside from being a bit fidgety and b***hy, he seems fine.
If you have been a very heavy drinker and also have slow metabolism (e.g. you are fat or sumo built) you are in physical danger so be careful how you quit to not go into a shock
AA meetings helped me. Cravings for alcohol have always overpowered my willpower so the first step of AA is actually empowering because I'm now able to win the war by not fighting it. If I drink the drink is always going to win.
going from beer/gin to coffee is what turned the human civilization into a space ferrying species.
Drinking is the socially acceptable heroin.
Both are shitty for your health and wallet. Both impede your goals.
Why drink except for pointless hedonism?
I wasted so many years drinking alone. No more. Frick booze.
I quit drinking 8 months ago and in that time I've made better gains in my mid 30s than I have in the last 10 years. I had no idea how much my gains were being killed by alcohol.
Checked. Are you saying the truth though? Or did you just take your training seriously in your mid 30s after fricking around the past 10 years?
Go have some fun on the weekend moron, remember 95% of "people" on this shit board can't do a 2plate bench for reps, and they're the one telling you how drinking alcohol is worse than getting aids.
This, half the c**ts on here have worse lifts than a high school linebacker but convince themselves total abstinence from anything will result in them "making it".
Kek, these morons think having 12% body fat is being ""athletic"" while they can't run a sub 10 minute mile or squat 315 to parallel and then blame fricking alcohol and burgers for their shortcomings hhahahahahaha.
It literally fricking kills you.
I drank 4 beers for the first time in 8 months and all it did was make me think it would be cool if I shaved my head and then I felt real bad and shit water. Never again.
what beer did you drink?
If you have to, drink only on a 2nd rest day sometime around midday before a workout on the following day. A routine of M/W/F would result in you drinking on Sunday afternoon. It's effects are the worst during rest days, or if there is a hangover that prevents you from working out properly. Otherwise it largely doesn't matter.
The real rub is to avoid drinking at night, you can get buzzed for an hour or so and then your body should process enough of the alcohol out to get you to a sort of mild headache normality, but it's still got a lot of work to do to completely flush the alcohol out of your system so it fricks with your sleep recovery which is when you build muscle. Never drink the night of a workout or the night after and try not to get blackout drunk ever and it's fine. Keep in mind the extra carbs/calories and probably avoid it on a cut, otherwise it doesn't make much of a difference in terms of gains.
take me back to 2013 fit where we talked about getting fit only to party and get drunk with sloots
zyzz is dead
its just empty calories, half a bottle of wine is 30 mins of running or 60 minutes of walking, if you can deal with it you should be OK
but knowing myself and many other lads it never stops with half a bottle, you usually ramp up drinking until you overdo it one day, then slowly reduce it, to ramp it up again
>half a bottle of wine = 60 minutes of walking
The math is settled then, grab a bottle of wine and go for a 2 hour lindy walk
I had many nights where I walked for 60 mins and came back to crush a bottle of red in front of wikipedia articles and 30 minute video essays
its lindy, but its not sustainable and you do get a hangover which sucks
For me, a good diet and enough water completelylevels any hangover out - as long as it's not more than a bottle of (good, and that is important) wine.
Curious.
My philosophy is to drink hard but rarely. When I drink I drink a lot, when I don't drink I don't drink at all. Hell I'm drunk right now, but it's only once every two weeks so who gives a shit
Getting shitfaced drunk every two weeks is a lot
As opposed to the men who drink a beer or two every night
>I just want to relax!
>There's a nice movie on the telly, it won't matter if I drink a beer or two
Isn't it better to consume all the poison in one go, rather than spreading it out over the weeks?
>taking the poison in low dosis
>makes you inmune on the long run
>taking the whole in one go
>kills you
>alcohol progressive overload
>Isn't it better to consume all the poison in one go, rather than spreading it out over the weeks?
not sure how accurate this is but I've read that the heavy drinker who binges on occasion tends to spiral and hit rock bottom much quicker than someone who drinks daily but in smaller quantities. Supposedly, the former puts your body through the wringer and is more conducive to eventual issues of dependency while the daily drinkers can go on for years or even decades before they notice the have a problem
drinking without blacking out is like fricking without cumming
No it's fricking not. I've only gone blackout drunk once in my life and I nearly died that night
I blackout everytime I drink. what's even the point of having a couple? all that does is piss me off that I have to stop drinking
>I blackout everytime I drink
I understand that you're trolling but this post made me so confused I chuckled out loud.
I drink a lot but space it out so I'm never completely blackout. What's the point of going so far?
lmao such a weakling. should have just passed away
Shit gets scary when you realize you've lost the ability to walk
I pissed on my friends bed the one time I did blackout
>not just cumming and blacking out
Sometimes I used to wake up not remember how I got home. i would look at into the driveway to make sure I didn’t DUI hit & run anything and sometimes my truck would be parked like 90 degrees in the driveway or halfway into the grass and shit. Honestly surprised none of my neighbors ever said anything. I don’t drink like that anymore and I’m honestly lucky as frick I never got in trouble
truth is you don't need it to have fun and nobody would look you odd if you order a juice or something like that at a bar
Alcohol kills gainz is a myth. Not saying it's healthy but its not nearly as bad as you nerds claim. I drink 3 beer a day mon to Thurs and 6 plus Fri to sun and it hasn't hurt me at all. Been working out 2 years and still making gainz
Recovery is the most important part of muscle building. That's when the muscle grows, and alcohol destroys your recovery.
don't be a pussy. you can drink just fine every other weekend and look better than 95% of people. You just have to put in the work. It's as easy as that. I train at 70% and go to the sauna when I'm hungover. >Source done this for years and look better than you