Cont
Youll die. You'll eventually stop breathing. Then what do you have to lose? The other person will also die so who cares
If everything goes right, you'll be a 69 years old with gray hair and wrinkles so who cares about looking like a moron now
When I was younger I got shitty advice to cold approach girls x times a day
I just ended up having the numbers of hundreds of girls who were mid looking in my phone after one month
What are you supposed to learn from it
Anon do you think I live in fricking west Hollywood or something
Most girls are mid I have a gf now but statistcially there's a super low chance of ever seeing a girl who isn't mid outside a super rich coast city
8 months ago
Anonymous
ah right you live in america where 70% are landwhales unless they're super rich
and it's too dangerous to live in the city
don't know what to tell you then
move to a healthier country in asia then you don't have to look hard to find hot girls
8 months ago
Anonymous
I'm a nazi
I'm good eith my blue eyed gf >had to get a asiatic
OP, i’ll help you out, you need to condition your mind into thinking that speaking to this girl is like alerting her of a fire, when youre in a building and you see a fire, youre not shy running to an entire floor and shouting FIRE!! alerting a hundred people at once, why ? because you know they need to know that.
consition your brain into thinking everyone you want to talk to, needs to hear what you have to say
>youre not shy running to an entire floor and shouting FIRE!! alerting a hundred people at once, why ? because you know they need to know that.
what if I am...
I have accepted that I'm shy and nothing can change that.
But I will eventually meet my shy future girlfriend and we'll live happily ever after.
I have faith.
>All the women at my job are either ugly, old or basic.
Doesn't matter. It's the practice that counts. Talk to EVERYONE. Especially practice opening up unattractive (to you) or older women for conservation.
Like anything else, its just reps.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I'd add that introverts see every social interaction like a live or death situation. It's completely irrational but it is what it is. The only thing to do here would be to tell to yourself that the current interaction is meaningless, will have no consequences, nobody will remember it, who the frick cares
The first part will
He'll meet th3 perfect shy girl of his dreams
Talk to her for like 10 minutes and think >she's so pure and cute!
Then Chad will finish taking a dump, com3 out and frnch kiss her while grabbing her ass and say, "who's this loser" and she'll say "some weird guy trying to hit on me..." Chad will laugh and then leave with her
Don't crush his dreams he will make it
if are both shy it nothing will happen, because neither of you is going to make a first move
it only works if you are an extremely good looking shy man and an extroverted woman might approach you
stop daydreaming
Nothings gonna happen if you don't make it happen, but you can still make it happen as yourself. Make the first move, if you're blushing and stuttering while you do it whatever
anon, life is a battle between "if it's supposed to happen , it will" and "if you want it, make it happen".
if you define yourself as "shy, introverted", then surprise surprise, you will be forever. don't be the victim of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
heres something that may help
you know that practice gf shit you hear on this board sometimes? treat everything you do like a practice ...
it truly makes me ngaf
Shyness only matters If you actually want to have anything to do with people
Things you say when the alcohol wears off and your testosterone plummets have no bearing on reality
My problem is that, though I can overcome my shyness pretty easily at this point, I run out of things to say pretty quickly.
How do I fill gaps in conversation?
The only people who hate this are miserable counts with nothing going on or egotistical cents who only ever say anything to make themselves look good. Most people will answer questions about themselves so long as you are genuinely interested.
Same for me.
I hate the topics people talk about but if I talk about the things I like they'd definitely get weirded out so I avoid speaking to people.
I had bad experiences around 2015-2020 so I avoid showing my true self to anyone now.
I suppressed myself.
at a similar stage of "okay, I would talk but wtf do I say" but everyone I ask about it irl tells me to just make smalltalk - we are probably suffering from the fact that we don't know the person yet.
once you get past the first 1-3 times of seeing someone, conversation comes a lot easier, and you might have even thought of something you wanted to tell them or ask them about between the times you met.
May I recommend some reps of chit chats? I find retail workers great targets since they're captive, and obliged to talk to you. Pick the cutest check out girl, and offer her a compliment or even just hey hyd.
I had it bad. Like bad bad. The only thing that really changed it was 3-4 cycles of roids. Two of them with tren (trens a fricking nightmare). 3-4 cycles working out like an absolute maniac, not some mentzer “akshually the problem is I’m working too hard” shit
I went to CBT and together we carefully dismantled my deeply ingrained worries, what-if situations and paranoias.
If there are cheaper alternatives out there, they are worth trying but CBT worked for me
What would you do if during a Thanksgiving family weekend I (your therapist in this scenario) broke into your family's home, dosed you with ketamine, and killed everyone there in a way that police would be absolutely convinced you were the only possible culprit, then I left you several duffelbags of cash, $300k in unmarked non denomonational bills under $20 and the keys to a black unmarked SUV registered to a Bolivian corporation with a dozen authentic and working passports with your face and a fake name on them in the seat.
put yourself into situations where you are forced to interact with someone. i could've worked from home but asked for an office so i could chat with people at work. you could, for example, strike up a conversation with random people on the street.
my work is about to finally shift back to office instead of home working after covid, and the main reason i'm okay with it despite ending my comfy life is because I know it will be very good for me
>if
there's no if about, fren.
I compare socialising to cardio, it's rough getting back into it and it's easy if you do it consistently for a long time.
if you are fat, lose weight until you are shredded, if you are skinny gain muscle, after your transformation people will start making comments and asking you questions about your transformation and what you did etc... and it will just attract social interactions to you, increase your confidence and in general you will be in a state of physically and mentally healthier than the vast majority of the population and remember how hard you worked to achieve that you will realize how weak willed and undisciplined and pathetic most people are even when they ask you questions and you give them answers they wont do shit and make excuses, you will stop.giving a shit about what most people think because most people are unhealthy and miserable and you shouldnt care what they think about anything
I am so ridiculously self-aware/self-conscious of every single little thing about me 24/7 that I'm basically constantly living in fight or flight mode in public.
And I don't mean that good side of being self-aware, but literally crippling, and I mean crippling levels of self-awareness of every little miniscule detail. When I interact with I am aware of the speed I am talking, the posture I am holding, the tone I am expressing, the eye contact I am holding, the body language I am expressing, my brain is literally working on overdrive 110% every single time and as soon as I do something "wrong" in any of these things I feel like I did something terribly wrong. Every single second feels like an hour and I am constantly in fight or flight mode. My heart starts pumping so much that at some point I literally start to think that even the other person can hear it, especially indoors in a quiet setting.
Every social interaction is like Q&A conversation in a RPG game, but instead of 3 possible questions/answers and endless time to pick the correct response there's like 3 million possible questions/answers to choose from and a deadly awkwardness timer going on, where if you don't quickly pick a response in milliseconds and not picking the right response results in me dying right there on the spot.
I want to erase that, to just be able not to think about any of that and not act manually. To be able to just talk about the weather or something dumb like that without thinking much about it. At this rate I'll die in my 30s out of nothing but pure stress cortisol overload
This happened to me yesterday. As per IST's suggestion, I went for a dancing lesson and I got nervous as frick. Totally irracional. I thought to myself "why the frick am I feeling like this? I have a high stakes job and I'm good at it. All these losers are low status compared to me" and I started to relax and being dominant. I think it's going to take time for me to get over that fear.
Wear one of those "Hi I'm not antisocial I'm just shy you can talk to me!" shirts. It's almost 2024 you're not gonna have respectable human beings from 1850 strut out of a time machine to whoop your ass.
jerk off on the bus
nta, but I actually did that. Twice. In my teenage years when I was extremely horny
check 'em
Realize you'll die eventually. Who gives a frick about anything
Cont
Youll die. You'll eventually stop breathing. Then what do you have to lose? The other person will also die so who cares
If everything goes right, you'll be a 69 years old with gray hair and wrinkles so who cares about looking like a moron now
just stop being shy bro youll eventually die anyway bro
okay?
It works
It does
this and also cold approach at least 3 women every day
When I was younger I got shitty advice to cold approach girls x times a day
I just ended up having the numbers of hundreds of girls who were mid looking in my phone after one month
What are you supposed to learn from it
>cold approaches mid-looking girls only
>hurr why do i only have numbers of mid-looking girls
have you tried approaching higher level girls?
Anon do you think I live in fricking west Hollywood or something
Most girls are mid I have a gf now but statistcially there's a super low chance of ever seeing a girl who isn't mid outside a super rich coast city
ah right you live in america where 70% are landwhales unless they're super rich
and it's too dangerous to live in the city
don't know what to tell you then
move to a healthier country in asia then you don't have to look hard to find hot girls
I'm a nazi
I'm good eith my blue eyed gf
>had to get a asiatic
doesn't work
shit advice that never works
OP, i’ll help you out, you need to condition your mind into thinking that speaking to this girl is like alerting her of a fire, when youre in a building and you see a fire, youre not shy running to an entire floor and shouting FIRE!! alerting a hundred people at once, why ? because you know they need to know that.
consition your brain into thinking everyone you want to talk to, needs to hear what you have to say
ok, how
>youre not shy running to an entire floor and shouting FIRE!! alerting a hundred people at once, why ? because you know they need to know that.
what if I am...
3 sets of Crown Royal shots.
I have accepted that I'm shy and nothing can change that.
But I will eventually meet my shy future girlfriend and we'll live happily ever after.
I have faith.
>But I will eventually meet my shy future girlfriend and we'll live happily ever after
Won't happen.
Thanks satan
It's the truth. Your dreams won't happen if you sit at home waiting for them to happen. At least go outside and talk to people
All the women at my job are either ugly, old or basic.
Same as I walk down the street back home, they're all the same.
>All the women at my job are either ugly, old or basic.
Doesn't matter. It's the practice that counts. Talk to EVERYONE. Especially practice opening up unattractive (to you) or older women for conservation.
Like anything else, its just reps.
I'd add that introverts see every social interaction like a live or death situation. It's completely irrational but it is what it is. The only thing to do here would be to tell to yourself that the current interaction is meaningless, will have no consequences, nobody will remember it, who the frick cares
What if you have no dreams?
Where do I get them?
You do have a dream. It's your instinct as a man. Your dream is to reproduce
I dont have any dreams either anon. Maybe try doing something, anything. Archery maybe?
Why won't you leave us alone demon?
The first part will
He'll meet th3 perfect shy girl of his dreams
Talk to her for like 10 minutes and think
>she's so pure and cute!
Then Chad will finish taking a dump, com3 out and frnch kiss her while grabbing her ass and say, "who's this loser" and she'll say "some weird guy trying to hit on me..." Chad will laugh and then leave with her
Don't crush his dreams he will make it
You should write more cuckold fan fiction, I can tell you have a natural talent.
oof
Frick you Satan
Get in front of me like Jesus and I'll bend you over just like I did to him son
on god you have to break out of this mindset. You're holding yourself back from jigger opportunities/networking
shy only works for women because it is a submissive feminine trait
if are both shy it nothing will happen, because neither of you is going to make a first move
it only works if you are an extremely good looking shy man and an extroverted woman might approach you
stop daydreaming
>I'm shy
>I will eventually meet my shy future girlfriend
Nothings gonna happen if you don't make it happen, but you can still make it happen as yourself. Make the first move, if you're blushing and stuttering while you do it whatever
anon, life is a battle between "if it's supposed to happen , it will" and "if you want it, make it happen".
if you define yourself as "shy, introverted", then surprise surprise, you will be forever. don't be the victim of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
> Og jeg ble liggende å vente
>På alt som skulle skje
>Jeg skulle få meg en jente
>Og en familie
bump
Rape a minor
now that's a cold approach
>5x1 stalk a girl in a dark alley at night
if she starts running, run after - you're IST after all
Repeated exposure to social situations
Get yourself on a routine of 1x3 event attends per week.
Doesn't work
unironically methylene blue and b vitamins.
heres something that may help
you know that practice gf shit you hear on this board sometimes? treat everything you do like a practice ...
it truly makes me ngaf
Shyness only matters If you actually want to have anything to do with people
Things you say when the alcohol wears off and your testosterone plummets have no bearing on reality
Also nothing you say on alcohol has bearing in reality, its just whatever your mind was set on no matter how distorted
stop being a coward.
My problem is that, though I can overcome my shyness pretty easily at this point, I run out of things to say pretty quickly.
How do I fill gaps in conversation?
ask questions
Terrible advice. Nobody likes being interrogated about random shit in their life.
The only people who hate this are miserable counts with nothing going on or egotistical cents who only ever say anything to make themselves look good. Most people will answer questions about themselves so long as you are genuinely interested.
I thought normies love talking about themselves
Same for me.
I hate the topics people talk about but if I talk about the things I like they'd definitely get weirded out so I avoid speaking to people.
I had bad experiences around 2015-2020 so I avoid showing my true self to anyone now.
I suppressed myself.
same i have nothing to say
Perhaps stuff like "how long have you been ... ?"
Idk.m, I'm not romie
Speak with your hands if you know what I'm saying.
at a similar stage of "okay, I would talk but wtf do I say" but everyone I ask about it irl tells me to just make smalltalk - we are probably suffering from the fact that we don't know the person yet.
once you get past the first 1-3 times of seeing someone, conversation comes a lot easier, and you might have even thought of something you wanted to tell them or ask them about between the times you met.
I don't want to become a normie.
Checked, nice digits, anon.
May I recommend some reps of chit chats? I find retail workers great targets since they're captive, and obliged to talk to you. Pick the cutest check out girl, and offer her a compliment or even just hey hyd.
>harassing wagies for social gains
fricking kek, pretty based though
just give up.
its over
I had it bad. Like bad bad. The only thing that really changed it was 3-4 cycles of roids. Two of them with tren (trens a fricking nightmare). 3-4 cycles working out like an absolute maniac, not some mentzer “akshually the problem is I’m working too hard” shit
I haven't left my house in months and I haven't spoken to anyone that's not my direct family in years
am I gmi?
Yeah but only if you want to.
I want to have a life and friends and someone to love, I just need to escape this prison I've created
it's as hellish as it sounds
one brick at a time, and you'll make a hole in the prison wall. you'll make it as fast as you wish to.
>I haven't spoken to anyone that's not my direct family in years
sheesh
I went to CBT and together we carefully dismantled my deeply ingrained worries, what-if situations and paranoias.
If there are cheaper alternatives out there, they are worth trying but CBT worked for me
wiener and balls torture?
kek, devilish anons
Agreed
Nothing relaxed me like wiener ball torture
What would you do if during a Thanksgiving family weekend I (your therapist in this scenario) broke into your family's home, dosed you with ketamine, and killed everyone there in a way that police would be absolutely convinced you were the only possible culprit, then I left you several duffelbags of cash, $300k in unmarked non denomonational bills under $20 and the keys to a black unmarked SUV registered to a Bolivian corporation with a dozen authentic and working passports with your face and a fake name on them in the seat.
I would probably be dead from the additional ketamine
Just get jacked and then when you're bigger than 99% of the population you won't give a frick about what they think
yay
better question where do I find an unvaccinated virgin redneck woman without being american
Shyness/flusteredness is Wojak domain
>stupid frog poster
Everytime
put yourself into situations where you are forced to interact with someone. i could've worked from home but asked for an office so i could chat with people at work. you could, for example, strike up a conversation with random people on the street.
my work is about to finally shift back to office instead of home working after covid, and the main reason i'm okay with it despite ending my comfy life is because I know it will be very good for me
yeah. social muscle is also a muscle that you have to train. especially if you're an autist like me.
>if
there's no if about, fren.
I compare socialising to cardio, it's rough getting back into it and it's easy if you do it consistently for a long time.
3x5 follow women at a sedate pace at night, Kindly Style
if you are fat, lose weight until you are shredded, if you are skinny gain muscle, after your transformation people will start making comments and asking you questions about your transformation and what you did etc... and it will just attract social interactions to you, increase your confidence and in general you will be in a state of physically and mentally healthier than the vast majority of the population and remember how hard you worked to achieve that you will realize how weak willed and undisciplined and pathetic most people are even when they ask you questions and you give them answers they wont do shit and make excuses, you will stop.giving a shit about what most people think because most people are unhealthy and miserable and you shouldnt care what they think about anything
I already am IST, still a shy anxious mess just with added body dysmorphia problems
Introspect, why are you shy? You are afraid of something, just pinpoint what it is and realize it's not important, nobody gives a shit.
take a long walk and say hi or good morning to everyone you encounter. it saved me from a life of shyness
my friend got this exercise from his therapist:
go to subway, ask for a sub with tomatoes. after they've finished making the sub, say actually i didn't want tomatoes.
you get to exercise and dunk on wagies while doing it
>wasting food
You can also just ask about their day to further improve on your conversation skills.
I am so ridiculously self-aware/self-conscious of every single little thing about me 24/7 that I'm basically constantly living in fight or flight mode in public.
And I don't mean that good side of being self-aware, but literally crippling, and I mean crippling levels of self-awareness of every little miniscule detail. When I interact with I am aware of the speed I am talking, the posture I am holding, the tone I am expressing, the eye contact I am holding, the body language I am expressing, my brain is literally working on overdrive 110% every single time and as soon as I do something "wrong" in any of these things I feel like I did something terribly wrong. Every single second feels like an hour and I am constantly in fight or flight mode. My heart starts pumping so much that at some point I literally start to think that even the other person can hear it, especially indoors in a quiet setting.
Every social interaction is like Q&A conversation in a RPG game, but instead of 3 possible questions/answers and endless time to pick the correct response there's like 3 million possible questions/answers to choose from and a deadly awkwardness timer going on, where if you don't quickly pick a response in milliseconds and not picking the right response results in me dying right there on the spot.
I want to erase that, to just be able not to think about any of that and not act manually. To be able to just talk about the weather or something dumb like that without thinking much about it. At this rate I'll die in my 30s out of nothing but pure stress cortisol overload
are you me?
Join a martial arts gym
Do all of it you can
People like us need something external to force change, or else we will just make new traps
I feel that anything I say will offend someone and they'll hate me.
In fact I think people talk shit about me behind my back.
This happened to me yesterday. As per IST's suggestion, I went for a dancing lesson and I got nervous as frick. Totally irracional. I thought to myself "why the frick am I feeling like this? I have a high stakes job and I'm good at it. All these losers are low status compared to me" and I started to relax and being dominant. I think it's going to take time for me to get over that fear.
You can't. It's engrained in your DNA. You can force yourself to talk more but you will never enjoy it. It's over.
Yup you can only be reprogrammed in bad ways. Never good. All those depressing movies were right. Time to die in the tearful rain. *GUH*
Megatron-maxx
I WILL NOT BE DENIED
Wear one of those "Hi I'm not antisocial I'm just shy you can talk to me!" shirts. It's almost 2024 you're not gonna have respectable human beings from 1850 strut out of a time machine to whoop your ass.
say good morning to boomers in the morning when you walk by them in the morning, they'll say good morning back
Walk around singing all the time
work in a call center for 3 months but unironically
Shyness is a byproduct of low testosterome
>being shy and Male
dead before 30
What is round facial hair?
My friend is taller and really outgoing so I go out with him and it’s easy to get chicks. Strength in numbers
I pretend I'm Zyzz