Are they necessary? inb4 nothing is
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They feel good
idk if they actually do anything tho
stopped getting tendinitis in my biceps as much since starting them, but that's just my anecdote
Is any lift really necessary? Just do them if you want
nothing is
Wide angle rows feel weird on my shoulders.
I just do one arm rows for lats + reverse flies for rear delts. Deadlifts and dumbbell lunges give adequate neck and trap gains.
Good for wings and shoulders. Most pulls dont hit the back the same way so theyre useful
>DL and lunge give neck gains
I like doing them. Seems to attract mires too.
Mires? You mean the muscle does or doing the movement?
as physical therapy for teres minor pain and immobility maybe.
it doesn't actually work rear delts, for that you need to pull it to your neck.
>it doesn't actually work rear delts
Place your hand on your delt. Make a pulling movement. Realize that you're wrong. Don't post anymore.
moron. the delts would bulge on any pull, including low rows.
because it's a therapeutic shoulder rotator movement, not a rear delt one.
>>the delts would bulge on any pull
>>it doesn't actually work rear delts
if I don’t do them my shoulders start to hurt
It's a good accessory pulling movement.
Necessary (for muscular balance/health reasons) if you do lots of pushing movements(more or equal to the pulling ones).
nothing is
No. Facepulls are gay as frick. Just do bent over flyes instead.
for posture, they're not necesary. you should do leg raises, planks and bridge for that.
They are exactly one of three exercises that work the posterior rotator Cuff muscles when performed correctly. They are the Supraspinatus and Infraspinatus.
The exercises are
>Cable external humeral rotations (arm by side)
>Cable raised arm external humeral rotations (rotation aspect isolated, so no scapular retraction element. Same starting position as facepull)
>Face pulls
They only work for this muscle if you do them properly though. Most people do facepulls like a high row, which is wrong and will actually snap your fricking shoulders. Guy in OP Pic is doing this almost correctly. Knuckles pointed toward ceiling, no wrist curl involved. Main goal is to get your wrists as far back as possible while taking them through a full ROM from starting to end position. Jeff Cavaliere had a great video on the proper form. Any benefits gained from doing this exercise should only be focused on the rotator Cuff, as you can get back gains from doing other things like actual high rows. Frick the rear delts, side delts, upper back, rhomboids, etc. This should be included because it's basically the only good exercise for the supra and infra muscles.Facepulls are really the only relevant exercise for these two muscles since the other two exercises kinda suck in comparison
>why should you care?
Most people have atrophied supraspinatus and infraspinatus muscles, causing chronic issues like pain. Fixing this is easy and you'll protect yourself from dislocating your shoulder among other things. If you have weak posterior rotator Cuff muscles, you WILL eventually snap your shit when doing any form of dynamic high intensity activity such as pitching a ball, especially when done overhead or over your shoulder.
nothing is necessary