Can someone provide me with some evidence about how unhealthy this shit is? I’m trying to convince my gf of this fact that I intuitively know, but don’t have sources.
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Fake meat harmful?
>>I’m trying to convince my gf of this fact that I intuitively know, but don’t have sources
>I have my own inherent bias and I need CNN/buzzfeed articles to reaffirm my skewed view of anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Classical meathead incapable of research which is why this is the least intelligent board of all.
The preprocessed shit is harmful, because it's made out of onions, tofu and chemicals.
Instead, opt for homemade Seitan. It's made out of vital wheat gluten and is 75% protein, as in 100g contains 75g protein and a total of 370kcal.
It's not however a full protein on its own, so you will need to eat pees, lentils, rice, chickpeas or dairy to make it a full protein.
You can make it taste like any type of meat you like, and of course, you can pull and stretch it to give it the texture of meat.
Before people start asking where the protein comes from if it's made of gluten - gluten is the protein found in bread. It's almost a full protein, a combination of 2 families of proteins called glutenins and gliadins. Only missing the amino acid lysine.
>The preprocessed shit is harmful, because it's made out of onions, tofu and chemicals.
Prove it.
I'm Coptic Orthodox. We fast 2/3 of the year.
Our fasting involves us refraining from all animal products.
So 2/3 of the year, I'm a vegan-gay. I get most of my protein from chickpeas, lentils, nuts, seeds, falafel and Seitan.
When I was younger, we use to buy this processed vegan crap but it not only tasted like shit, it fricks with your hormones. Just look up the estrogen levels in a beyond burger. Disgusting shit.
You can never go wrong with homemade food anyway. It's also a million times cheaper and tastes better.
show all the good stuff that is in real meat, plus the steroids and antibiotics and the factory farm conditions, she will thank you and start eating real meat again.
That ingredient list would be scary if you're moronic.
holy shit im never eating beef again wtf
Did you know that vitamin c is actually in beef? The USDA just assumed it wasn't in meat and hasn't ever measured it. Independent research has revealed that beef actually contains vitamin C, after all. So this ingredients list in incorrect. I wonder what else they missed and included incorrectly?
You are wrong. Its only in fresh beef. As in, right after slaughter. By the time you get it in the supermarket its degraded so much as to be gone.
Be great if if the future you didnt just repeat memes carnivore people told you
youre absolutely wrong
>no rebuttal
>no contrary evidence
>doesnt dispute sourse is carnies on YouTube
I accept your concession
it was rebutted. youre wrong
Another diet cultist falling for youtube grifters
Death to all fatties. It's always fatties falling for obvious conmen.
Not only are you ugly, deformed, smelly and lazy you're also stupid as a fricking door
Well for starters there's the sky- high sodium content. Say the B word and the P word (Blood Pressure, I mean. Not b***h Pussy. Call her that after if she ain't listen)
>sky- high sodium content
380mg isnt sky high.
Maybe stop lying online. Thanks.
Compared to actual beef (approx 60 / patty) it certainly is, b***h Pussy.
You can just say you were wrong buddy
Everything premade and processed is bad.
Opposite actually. SWAP meat study showed plant based meats were healthier than the real stuff.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522008905?via%3Dihub
>Among generally healthy adults, contrasting Plant with Animal intake, while keeping all other dietary components similar, the Plant products improved several cardiovascular disease risk factor
>CDG received funding for the study from Beyond Meat in the form of an unrestricted research gift made to Stanford University.
Didn't read, did you?
If you think there is a bias in the methodology you should point that out instead of just crying "muh funding". Only CDG received funding. Thats less than 10% of the people that worked on it.
The only thing negative I have to say is it's fricking expensive to the point where you need to be high-income to even semi-regularly eat it. As long as ground beef is less than $10 a lb it'll never replace it, and turkey is my go-to healthier alternative anyway.
It's not harmful
Just disgusting
Its not a sufficient replacement in terms of nutrients
>In conclusion, metabolomics revealed that abundance of 171 out of 190 profiled metabolites differed between beef and a commercially-available plant-based meat alternative, despite comparable Nutrition Facts panels. Amongst identified metabolites were various nutrients (amino acids, phenols, vitamins, unsaturated fatty acids, and dipeptides) with potentially important physiological, anti-inflammatory, and/or immunomodulatory roles—many of which remained absent in the plant-based meat alternative when compared to beef and vice versa.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8257669/
You cant look at studies and science to disprove the fake meat, because the fake meat is all based on the science and the studies. A bit of cherry picking, to be sure but you cannot attack them with nutirtional sciences.
I would concede to her that the science is there because politics have interfered with nutritionals cience. That we should look at toher areas of study like biology, zooology, chemistry and physics to draw conclusions about the best human diet. Fields of study like history, political science and even religon can be used to make comelling aruments. Logic should be woven in - great claims require great proof. That sort of thing.
I beleive that the most well rounded minds would have to conclude that real meat is an integral part of the optimal human diet, and that the track record of human "inventions" into nutrition and foods is abysmal.
Look at the history of choline and recommendations re folic acid for recent great examples of how wrong the science gets it wrong and needs to correct itslef. Does she knowt that the American Heart Association no longer (sonce 2015) cares about dietary choelsterol? educate her on the hsitory of margarine and fake butter sporeads and how about, even now, most nuturional science will agree that margarine is posion.
Logic, general education and clear thinking is your freind here. Not "nutritional science" studies.
Also, look up some videos about vegan documentary movies being debunked. "Game Changers" was avery popualr movie she may have seen and there are really good videos out there debunking it.
Finally, look into sources promting meat: Robb Wollf did a movie called "Sacred Cow" that debunks a lot of vegan propaganda generally and talks about how great cattle are for the human world and body.
>I would concede to her that the science is there
And a smart person would end it there. Who the frick cares about your feelings and intuition? What are you a woman? "Logic" would tell you to follow the evidence, not what your fricking horoscope says. It's amazing watching the hoops you jump through.
>"ignore propaganda going against your beliefs, only look at propaganda supporting your beliefs!"
Let me guess you only watched videos debunking game changers but haven't once watched any video debunking sacred cow? Or any of the other stupid rotational grazing practices that don't even make sense on paper.
>.t "I LOVE SCIENCE" gay
Please post your vegan body so we all have something to laugh at this evening.
>rotational grazing practices that don't even make sense on paper.
It works in practice it doesn't matter what happens in your gay models on paper
>I’m trying to convince my gf
rest in rip broseph.