>farmer's holds

>farmer's holds
Does this do anything?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >good way to practise breathing and bracing
    >isometric hold through all the upperback musculature
    >improves grip strength and endurance
    holding weights does fuck all obviously

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There aren't too many physical disciplines that don't gain something from being able to hold your grip for longer.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never try to do a 180 during a heavy farmer's walk. Literally tore my entire knee apart doing that once. Apparently when you turn you put your knee at a very vulnerability position and the load can wreck your tendons and shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      skill issue

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I fixed it for you, chang

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >do a 360
      >tear my entire knee apart
      >walk away

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's actually how most old people fall.
      sudden turn while carry something.
      displaces hip, boom you go down.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t know anón
        Sounds like bullshit
        Where’s your sources

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean it's literally the most common injury in elderly Anon.
          over 50% of women and 25% of men will have hip displacement because of a slight turn of their hip while carrying something. sometimes their own body weight.
          it's a 2 second google search anon.

          [...]
          Guys perform turns with farmers all the time in strongman.
          A 54 year old can turn with 340lbs in each hand

          >he thinks 54 is old
          you're going to have a hard life m8.
          70 is getting old.
          wait until you're 75 and it all hits you at once.
          >b-but
          nah, everyone is different, some people don't even last to 70 and lifestyle isn't even a factor.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks 54 is old
            Never said this mate but the guy who's 57 years old who is still world class at farmers walks is going to be much less prone to random hip injury walking down the steps at 70 than someone who sat at in a chair their entire working life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      alright but isn't this avoidable? I can see this happening if the load is placed on the knee that's turning, but what if you stand on one leg then turn the leg that's not supporting any weight?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's actually how most old people fall.
      sudden turn while carry something.
      displaces hip, boom you go down.

      Guys perform turns with farmers all the time in strongman.
      A 54 year old can turn with 340lbs in each hand

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The virgin walk vs the Chad shuffle

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You fucking idiot, stop walking when you do this. Just hold the weight. You people are so stupid it hurts my soul

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >farmer's walk
        >walk
        >stand still

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't do the fucking walking part, holy shit. Just hold heavy things or use a gripper device. There's no reason to add the walking. It literally does nothing except create the possibility of injury

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You mean to tell me that walking does not engage more muscles than standing?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Engaging more muscles does not equate to exercising more muscles. You select an exercise specifically to work a muscle group. If you want ab or oblique gains, do ab and oblique specific exercises. What you're saying is the equivalent of saying that you should do bent over rows in order to get glute gains because your glutes are technically being utilized as 'stabilizer muscles' during the movement. It's fucking dumb and gets you nothing. It's literally a waste of energy.

              https://i.imgur.com/045objL.gif

              Picking something up and walking is one of the most natural movements a human can do.
              „Don’t do this, don’t this exercise, don’t do this“, God, you fucking gays. How are supposed to get stronger and reduce your injury risk, when you avoid every exercise which taxes you a bit? gay gay gay I hate you gays so much

              A movement being natural doesn't mean it's a good exercise.
              >How are supposed to get stronger and reduce your injury risk
              Do exercise, not meme movement

              ngmi

              A display of strength in a movement does not make it an exercise

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >deadlift
                >is a display of strength and a good exercise
                >farmers
                >is a display of strength but not an exercise???
                Not sure what kind of definition you use for exercise

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sub-maximal isometric exercises are not effective at producing adaptations. There is no reason to do farmer's walks because everything they "train" is better accomplished by the deadlift. The only reason to do them is if you compete in strongman or something and you need to practice the skill.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Sub-maximal isometric exercises are not effective at producing adaptations
                >everything they "train" is better accomplished by the deadlift
                That's what most deadlifts are for upperback, forearms, grip, etc. Except you can go heavier on farmers because they generally have a higher pick height and fixed handle so I'm not sure why a deadlift would train those better?
                >The only reason to do them is if you compete in strongman or something and you need to practice the skill.
                Any most modern bodybuilders will tell you the same thing about deadlifts.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Any most modern bodybuilders will tell you the same thing about deadlifts.
                dont care about farmers carry argument but this is just blatantly wrong, basically every successful pro bodybuilder deadlifted and will tell you to deadlift

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Deadlifts are a meme too. You can get better gains by selecting exercises for whatever muscle group you want to work and have 0 risk of injury while hitting everything evenly. Deadlifts and other certain compounds won't work your muscles as effectively as they could be and they also generally tire you out more than is necessary. You require much more energy to do them but they are very non-specific. Shrugs work traps. Curls work Biceps. Deadlifts work...... everything... kind of....maybe if you do them right and don't hurt yourself. It's unnecessary when the goal is to get bigger and stronger. If you want to get better at deadlifts, you can do more deadlifts, but that's kind of a stupid and pointless goal

                Exercise: A specific movement of weighted resistance training selected in order to efficiently target and fatigue a muscle or group of muscles

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >unnecessary when the goal is to get bigger and stronger
                All you're saying makes sense if the goal is bigger but if you want to get stronger you have to define stronger. Strong for a rock climber is different than strong for a powerlifter or strong for a shotputter. Sure you'll be good at a max curl if you do a lot of curls but you'll be relatively weaker at picking up a random stone than a person who trains with heavy sandbags for example. If you're 230lbs 12% bf bodybuilder who's pretty strong as lifting weights you'll to heavy to be strong on gymnastics rings or rock climbing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >want to get jacked all over
                > better work each muscle individually in isolation instead of all at once in their normal functional capacities working as a system
                hmm

                >Sub-maximal isometric exercises are not effective at producing adaptations
                >everything they "train" is better accomplished by the deadlift
                That's what most deadlifts are for upperback, forearms, grip, etc. Except you can go heavier on farmers because they generally have a higher pick height and fixed handle so I'm not sure why a deadlift would train those better?
                >The only reason to do them is if you compete in strongman or something and you need to practice the skill.
                Any most modern bodybuilders will tell you the same thing about deadlifts.

                > Except you can go heavier on farmers because they generally have a higher pick height and fixed handle so I'm not sure why a deadlift would train those better?
                Farmer's walks last way longer. And by your argument, above the knee rack pulls or something would be even better. The point is the deadlift most effectively trains a large amount of different muscle mass all at once in a functional way; grip is just one component of that.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Farmer's walks last way longer.
                Heavy and short, Light and long. How long's a piece of string. Non-argument.
                >And by your argument, above the knee rack pulls or something would be even better
                Yes
                >grip is just one component of that.
                Yes because grip can (i think should) be trained seperately since you can do challenging things like plate pinches, deadhangs, wrist curls which aren't as fatiguing on the cns and since it's a smaller muscle can respond to higher frequency training

                >Any most modern bodybuilders will tell you the same thing about deadlifts.
                dont care about farmers carry argument but this is just blatantly wrong, basically every successful pro bodybuilder deadlifted and will tell you to deadlift

                Sure there are a lot of bodybuilders who do deadlifts and are successful like cbum but you also have a lot like phil heath for example who made it to the top of bodybuilding without deadlifting. Many see it as an unnessary risk to reward.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >unnecessary when the goal is to get bigger and stronger
                All you're saying makes sense if the goal is bigger but if you want to get stronger you have to define stronger. Strong for a rock climber is different than strong for a powerlifter or strong for a shotputter. Sure you'll be good at a max curl if you do a lot of curls but you'll be relatively weaker at picking up a random stone than a person who trains with heavy sandbags for example. If you're 230lbs 12% bf bodybuilder who's pretty strong as lifting weights you'll to heavy to be strong on gymnastics rings or rock climbing.

                Further when you aren't doing isolated movements you'll be at a higher risk of injury than someone who trains compound and complex movements if you do something outside of your regular planes of resisted movement.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Picking something up and walking is one of the most natural movements a human can do.
            „Don’t do this, don’t this exercise, don’t do this“, God, you fucking gays. How are supposed to get stronger and reduce your injury risk, when you avoid every exercise which taxes you a bit? gay gay gay I hate you gays so much

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's actually great for your core. You can also try to pick up two plates and carrying them in front of you. Without leaning back your abs are going to start hurt in ten seconds

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ngmi

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pause
          >turn
          >continue walking

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have you considered turning slower

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Never try to do a 180 during a heavy farmer's walk. Literally tore my entire knee apart doing that once. Apparently when you turn you put your knee at a very vulnerability position and the load can wreck your tendons and shit.
      If you're using handles, angle the fronts of the handles together, let the momentum carry you and try to step around it. Then about ⅔ of the way through the turn try to reverse the motion so you don't overturn.
      With kettlebells or dumbbells the principle is the same but the effect is less than with handles.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah put insane pressure to your discs.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most of these isometric exercises are fucking memes. Why would you do a farmer's hold if you could just deadlift and train the rest of your body at the same time?
    Shits retarded and a waste of time for 99% of people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      One of the main purposes of farmers hold is to get better at deadlifting. It’s often used as an accessory exercise for someone who is struggling to progress because their legs and back got stronger much faster than their forearms. Just like how if your weakness on OHP is the lockout, shrugs are a good solution.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is a retarded approach. If you can't hold the bar when you deadlift with a double overhand grip (which will happen to everyone eventually), you mix/hook/strap for your work sets. All of these modified grips still make your grip stronger and you continue to double overhand your warmups, which also makes you stronger as your warmups increase in weight as your deadlift increases in weight.
        So again, farmer's holds are stupid and a waste of time. They also interfere with the deadlift by fatiguing your grip, therebt interfering with your ability to get stronger.
        >t. I deadlift 290 kg and don't do any of this stupid fucking shit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just make the muscle imbalance even worse by using straps
          Okay you fat fucking retard.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What makes it an "imbalance"? And straps still train your grip, retard. And you can just hook instead. You literally think you should stop getting stronger because you can't hold onto the bar with a conventional grip and should slow down until you can. What a laughably stupid approach; most people can't do much more than 60% of their 1RM double overhanded.
            And you also don't realize that the best way to get a stronger grip is to deadlift heavy shit. Farmers walks are way more sub-maximal. So, yes, the best way to get a better grip is to use mix/hook/straps on the deadlift so that your deadlift can keep progressing. You think those strongmen that Diddy with straps 90% of the time have weak grips? Lel
            You're a weak low IQ dyel and you don't know what you're talking about.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              thank you anon, I've been experiencing this issue and your insight is very helpful.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Starts hurting your hand
    Pretty sure I have an inflamed tendon because of this lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Give yourself plenty of time to recover. Tendons take weeks to heal, whereas muscles take days to heal, so you should either have easy days or only do them once a week unless your tendon feels better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doc says I'm fine to lift (back of hand hurts when there's downwards pressure if that makes sense) and use diclofenac. It's better but not 100% healed. Same with reloading a magazine, it kind of hurts my hand.

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