Fasting-bulking

Is this moronic? Can I lose fat and gain muscle (as a relatively new lifter) by eating one enormous meal in the evening?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Eating less = less muscle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can bulk smartly. It is obviously very stupid to splurge and eat to such excess that all you're doing is putting on extra pounds of fat. That isn't helping anything. You're overdoing it.

      Eat slightly above 2k calories, that's all you need. Slightly.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >don't eat
    >body turns muscle protein into glucose to live
    >overeat in single meal
    >body stores extra calories as fat
    great way to get skinnyfat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My body is not going to eat muscle if I don't have food for 12 hours. I'd imagine it will go for fat, since that's what fat literally exists for

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        fat is used to fuel things that like fat, like muscles at rest.

        I'm already skinnyfat
        [...]
        I am totally okay with slower gains if It means I can minimize or outright lose fat.

        then lose weight.

        Are you moronic?

        no.

        your body turns to fat long before it turns to muscle as a fuel source. it's much more expensive to produce muscle than fat & evolution isn't moronic.
        [...]
        do you mean less frequently or less calories? over what time frame? "eating less = less muscle" is too vague and impractical

        your body will not convert fat to glucose unless you are fasting for extreme periods of time and have already atrophied away.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm confused. So fat does not convert to glucose unless you fast for a stupid amount of time, but if you work out and eat less then fat is used to build the muscle? How does that work

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not quite it converts into free fatty acids and glycerol. Glycerol is sugar alcohol and is chemically similar to sugar.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Me stuped tell how fat go away into muscle and muscle grow same time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm already skinnyfat

      If you're a new lifter, you might be able to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time.
      BUT it you won't be gaining muscle or losing fat as quickly as you could be. Also, eating one big meal is the opposite of what you want. Muscle growth is a slow process. Smaller, spaced out, high protein meals are better for maximum muscle gain without packing on fat.
      I'm currently trying a 6/1 approach to lean bulking where I eat slightly over maintenance 6 days a week, and then fast on the final day. Hopefully it works out and I put on muscle over 6 days and then shed the fat I put on with a fast.

      I am totally okay with slower gains if It means I can minimize or outright lose fat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot pic

        It's not moronic, yes you can, remember to get protein and carbs on the OMAD.

        I eat clean, mostly. I plan on eating fish, rice eggs and chicken mostly, but that's just what I like

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You look leaner than most people starting off. Honestly, I would recommend just eating 250 calories over maintenance while lifting for 3 months and reevaluate after that. I think you'll be surprised at how big of a difference noobie gains can make.
          Don't overthink it too much at the beginning. Just learn to love lifting

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm lean everywhere except my belly and face, which sucks. Maybe I don't understand just how much it takes to be really, really lean

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you moronic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      your body turns to fat long before it turns to muscle as a fuel source. it's much more expensive to produce muscle than fat & evolution isn't moronic.

      Eating less = less muscle

      do you mean less frequently or less calories? over what time frame? "eating less = less muscle" is too vague and impractical

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The studies I've seen show that there is generally little difference depending on how you get you calories over a week (same cals every day vs large small alternating). So it's probably calories that he meant

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a new lifter, you might be able to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time.
    BUT it you won't be gaining muscle or losing fat as quickly as you could be. Also, eating one big meal is the opposite of what you want. Muscle growth is a slow process. Smaller, spaced out, high protein meals are better for maximum muscle gain without packing on fat.
    I'm currently trying a 6/1 approach to lean bulking where I eat slightly over maintenance 6 days a week, and then fast on the final day. Hopefully it works out and I put on muscle over 6 days and then shed the fat I put on with a fast.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not moronic, yes you can, remember to get protein and carbs on the OMAD.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i couldnt do it cuz im minmaxxing
    and eating all ur protein in one go definitely isnt better than spread out over 3-4 meals

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there are literally ~~*~~*(scientific studies*~~*~~)) that show getting all protein in one meal had better results than spreading it out. Obviously these differences are negligible at best but yeah.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OP here, this is why I loathe nutrition science. There are studies that support pretty much any form of diet or routine.

        It's like that for every scientific field, because the academia is filled with these self centered types that mutually cite each other and there is no actual scientific process done. Results are just skewed to proce the hypothesis, even if it's objectively proven in the study to be incorrect. But I'm getting off topic here

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You stupid fricking homosexual you are literally a fricking nobody with no muscle shit physique shit everything no achievements nothing. Just fricking eat protein and lift. If you think you are fat, eat less. If you think your are skinny, eat more. Its so fricking simple and logical stop overcomplicating it and acting like you are IFBB pro during a peak week

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Relax bro, why are you so mad? You're projecting some intense insecurity

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    to be clear, this is called intermittent fasting and it works great. you have to watch your electrolytes extra carefully or you'll feel like shit, but as long as you do that you should feel fine.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    daily reminder that if you eat less than 3k per day as an adult, you're ngmi
    cut, bulk, doesn't matter
    <3k = ngmi

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, you fricking moron. Why would you consume your only fuel for when you sleep and not for when you need it, aka your daily fricking activity?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What are you even trying to say here? Do you genuinely have brain damage?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's fine. The attempt at having a steady and healthy diet doesn't always look (or taste) pretty, but it's clear there is an attempt being made. Keep at it, and I think naturally you'll become more informed and better at it as you improve.

    Either way keep going down this route, being educated and aware of what you're doing to your body with what you put in it is great. Don't let the haters (including people you love like family) get you down if they question or make fun of you.

    Work towards results, but be patient and kind to yourself. Every body is different, and while there are absolute realities when it comes to health, personal habits and behaviors matter a lot. Learning what your habits and behaviors are to get you were you want is an experimental process and you will "fail" but not really.

    The best evidence for what it take was found in a scientific survey of people who had lost weight and kept it off for years after. There were too many variances to count. Different jobs, ages, lifestyles etc but the one commonality was the ones who kept it off after losing it never quit.

    Literally there was an essay/comment section and while it was said differently, it basically said the same thing: It's only failure when you quit.

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