Where did you hear this? I'm sure it's justifiable, but as someone who knows quite a bit about biopsychology I'm here like 'lolwut?'
Connective tissue in the brain is pretty sparse, and unlikely to be dissolved by some injection, if ethyl alcohol, a solvent, doesn't dissolve it, not much will.
Are you talking about demyelination? Cause demyelination, except with certain conditions, is easily reversed. It's just fatty acids, if you eat enough diverse fats your brain will remyelinate itself as a matter of metabolic routine.
NTA, but how does treating a symptom of a much bigger problem with an easy, band-aid solution help? People are just afraid, or too lazy, to actually work and put up with discomfort for results, and a weight-loss shot is only going to make things worse. >Hmm, I think I'll hack my endocrine system so I don't have to do the thing naturally... what could go wrong?
Thalidomide was used for off-label purposes for years before they realized the horrific consequences of that quick and easy "solution."
this video really makes you think all that training has done that when it only accounted for what?... 20% of the weight loss? While the rest 80 is just changing your diet.
Depends what she was doing. Since she wasn't morbidly obese to start with if she only added some cardio and burned 300-400 kcal a day doing that it's entirely possible that she didn't change her diet at all. Not that I would recommend it, just saying.
Working out is so much more than just physical results, though. I mean, the positive mental benefits can't even be put into words. But anyone that's gone from fat & lazy to fit & active knows exactly what I'm talking about. I remember when I went from 430 pounds to around 300, and I felt like a million dollars. I was so much more positive and happy. I couldn't wait to put on nice clothes and get out of the house. I'd make up excuses to do it. If I didn't exercise in the morning, I felt like shit all day. Just cranky and irritable.
And that was when I was still grossly obese. But that mindset stuck with me all the way down to 180. I'm still in the same place mentally. It had nothing to do with the physical condition of my body. It started long before I was fit. All from working out.
This except when I went from 465 to now I just hate how shit I look but can't bare to go back, it's not a "scared to be fat" it's just to ingrained into my head being in shape and eating right to eat shit.
my reasonings have always been vanity driven, and I hated how I smelled, I liked weights way before I quit being obeast, I just thought I HAD to do cardio of some sort. Woulda been a nuts powerlifter on the dreamer bulk
kek I went to the gym the other night and there's this zoomer there with the broccoli haircut that my brother and I refer to as "PCP Man" because he always acts like he's on PCP with his grunts and shrieks and muttering to himself.
He's unironically in great shape so good for him, but it's hilarious to watch him spaz his way around the gym. He shows up on Tuesday wearing New Balance sneakers and not just any ones, the stark white ones that my 70 year old father wears with his socks pulled up all the way.
Fricking hilarious. New Balance is like the official shoe of fricking weirdos, which is why I exclusively wear them, but even I have the sense to not buy the boomer shoes and get a pair of black or gray ones.
>let's her gut hang out >suddenly pulls the leggings up over her gut >profit?
For what it's worth though it does look like her arms get significantly less flabby so good for her
just a med that fixes hunger/satiety hormones in obeasts so that they do not have the urge to shovel 10k kcal daily. gets all the schizos out of wood works for whatever reason tho.
oh cmon bro don't sit there and pretend that it's not sad that people would rather take on a lifestyle of a diabetic then eat tasty varied food and spend time doing fun activities
Most people dread "being on a diet" even though for 99% of them it means eating tastier and more varied food. Only elite level athletes need to go into insane cuts.
Most people dread "excercise" even though for 99% of them it means doing fun stuff like going for walks, playing sports and games, and spending time with their friends. Only elite level athletes need aggressive programming with two or three workouts per day
I can't believe how a handful of grifters selling drugs managed to convince people that not being fat is somehow difficult or boring. Literal children will do "fitness" for fun if you let them be.
why are you straw manning me like that? if there really are people who struggle at as simple thing as not putting treats into their mouths then why couldn't they get some help in it. I see this medicine as no different than medication used to treat alcoholism.
I agree that it is sad that things have gone to this and so wrong. but honestly if some whale loses weight more easily with meds and thus becomes less of a burden for healthcare. I have to pay for with my taxes. then it's all better IMO.
The studies also were conducted with diet and exercise, plus the drug. You think Reddit fatties are actually changing anything about their goyslophog lifestyle? Kek. They’ll probably bounce back fatter with a vengeance after not being able to handle some mild nausea
Thanks.
I guess if they absolutely cannot get over the first one or two weeks before the huge cravings go away this is helpful.
It's pretty sad that they'd rather get another drug instead of spending an hour on the internet researching and checking other peoples' experiences though.
Thanks.
I guess if they absolutely cannot get over the first one or two weeks before the huge cravings go away this is helpful.
It's pretty sad that they'd rather get another drug instead of spending an hour on the internet researching and checking other peoples' experiences though.
This won't fix shit, because terminal fatties don't have just hunger issues. They eat to feel better mentally. The act of actually stuffing their face gives them satisfaction or at least suppresses their massive amounts of insecurity, self-hate, etc. temporarily. They eat to cope.
Man I’ve been yo-yoing from fit to fat all my life.
I really want to hop on dat dere ozempic, I have loads of money so that’s not a problem, but this shit is nowhere to be found. There’s a country wide shortage. Even diabetic people can’t get their fat hands on it.
Exactly. You could literally eat nothing but ribeye steaks and be at a perfectly healthy weight, while feeling great at the same time. If I had loads of money, that's nearly all I'd eat.
There's your miracle drug, it's called eating a proper human diet.
When I was reading the biological aspects of it a few months ago, it sounded like it forced ketosis. The whole list was literally the biological effects of an extreme low-carb diet.
>fat >people surprised when they’re massive, bloated, stretched-out moon face sags after losing all the lard >instead of blaming themselves for decades of stuffing their faces with garbage and stretching out their skin with lard, they blame the very drug that helped them lose the very same lard
If you know anything about fat >people this shouldn’t surprise you. Classic perma-victim mentality and never taking responsibility.
So would a gastric bypass or catching some kind of illness that causes rapid weight loss. It’s gaunt looking cause the fat is gone kek, isn’t special to this drug.
>more fate = youthful appearance
Jesus christ what are you smoking most fatties look 5-10 years older than they actually are at minimum let alone on average
>fat >people surprised when they’re massive, bloated, stretched-out moon face sags after losing all the lard >instead of blaming themselves for decades of stuffing their faces with garbage and stretching out their skin with lard, they blame the very drug that helped them lose the very same lard
If you know anything about fat >people this shouldn’t surprise you. Classic perma-victim mentality and never taking responsibility.
t. former fat >person
So would a gastric bypass or catching some kind of illness that causes rapid weight loss. It’s gaunt looking cause the fat is gone kek, isn’t special to this drug.
more fat = more estrogen = youthful appearance, in addition to what the other anons said
it's almost as if you didn't read any of the reasons why the average fat person looks older after they lose weight. if losing weight made you look younger then "ozempic face"
and they'll look even older after they lose weight dumbass. lower E / higher T + sagging skin = older appearance. and it's known that roiders who blast androgenic drugs age like shit. you'll certainly live longer and be happier if you lose weight but you'll look older than you did when you were fat, it's just facts.
1 year ago
Anonymous
losing 100 pounds will always look better than whatever the frick you morons are arguing about
>signed t.ozempic user
1 year ago
Anonymous
this gaggle of morons would legitimately prefer you to stay a lardass than to lose the weight because you used a drug. nevermind that they also support gear which is kinda the same thing but hey. I think part of it is that if the fatties stop being fat, who are they going to vent their pent up manchild rage at?
>31 >pass as early to mid 20's >still make good gains, strong facial hair growth, solid cheek lines etc
does this mean I am medium-high T, but also high E? >can also think like and understand women relatively well
good for you
I have pronounced cheekbones so i thought I would look good when I'm older but when I turned 33 I started looking like a starving slavic jukie
>34 >pass for early/mid 20's >genetic female with high T
still seeing signs of aging. would getting on birth control or whatever to level out my hormones help me look younger?
you want more? if you pass as early/mid 20s you're already at the peak of female attractiveness. just eat healthy and stay active. maybe hop on a low dose of tretinoin (it's a topical retinoid you apply to your face)
This happens regardless of the drug, if you had a rounder face due to higher body fat when you lose it will look gaunt >t. lost 10 lb and I’d get comments my face looked completely different and aged, however I enjoy it, baby face is not worth a mush fat body just don’t be an anorexic
If you’re going to buy Chinese “research peptide” versions of it, might as well step up to Tirzepatide (brand name mounjaro). All trials and studies show it significantly having better results than semaglutide(ozempic/wegovy)
Eat less and exercise more. It’s really that simple. I went from a 190lbs obeast to 120lbs 12% body fat in a year (I am a turbo manlet, yes). Make sure you get more protein than fats and carbs for muscle repair, and DO NOT skimp on your exercise. Eating at a caloric deficit doesn’t just burn fat, your body burns some muscle too. This is why exercise is vital in weight loss even though diet is like 90% of it. If you don’t work out and take proper care of your muscle when cutting, you will become skinnyfat (which is both unhealthy and gross looking). I only did like 5 hours of exercise per week over that year, and half of it was cardio done via powerwalking, so it’s not a significant time or energy investment in the grand scheme of things. You have to really want it though, I’d tried half heartedly for years with no results and it was only when I hit a really bad depressive episode that I had the clarity to admit to myself just how miserable I was being fat and that I needed to change to make life worth living. So I did. Now life is a bit less shit, and it was far easier than I expected it to be. Still hard work, but not the gruelling process that it’s made out to be by media and bitter fatties.
I’m also borderline moronic, so if I can manage it then anyone can.
like most (ex-)fats his issue isn't losing weight it's keeping it off. basically it boils down to having to maintain an exercise habit and dietary intervention that doesn't come naturally to them or that they don't enjoy, so when they can't put so much attention to managing their weight for whatever reason they rebound
but like, literally why can naturally skinny people just "be" without ever giving it second thought, and i can't even after months if not years of training and telling myself to. it's bullshit, and not fair.
There's lots of different possible reasons, various genes and hormones influence BMR, body composition, activity levels, digestive efficiency, mood/personality, etc., all of which in turn influence your TDEE. And even with everything else being the same, something as small as a 50 kcal/day difference can turn into a 52lb difference over a decade (10 years * 365 days/year * 50 kcal/day / 3500 kcal/lb).
It's just wild to me that we can differ so much being the same species. like, one of my bros is just naturaly twiggy. doesn't exercise, doesn't eat particularly healthy, drinks on weekends, etc, doesn't seem to really even think or care about that sort of stuff. thin as a rail. even with the way food and everything is these days, these people somehow still can just be that way and i can't help but be a tiny bit resentful in some misguided homosexual way.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Life isn't fair and there is nothing you can do about it, welcome to adulthood. Also the skinny guy envies guys with more mass because they're stronger and he feels emasculated by them.
It's like hair: People with curls want straight hair, people with straight hair want curls.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Life isn't fair and there is nothing you can do about it, welcome to adulthood.
i know, i know, hence why i said it was a misguided homosexual feeling, but it just bubbles up every now and then, you know? I don't personally hold it against him or anything. it's like how it was in school, i didn't have to do homework and got by while other classmates did extra assignments and still struggled. i get it. i just wish science could find a way to extract whatever makes them tick and make it transplantable lol. but hey, down 3kg this week, so that's something right?
1 year ago
Anonymous
agree
t. 6'5 150lb 22 year old malding that it'll take me like 7 fricking years to look normal.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I still feel that way even after getting fit. I think it’s just a fatbrain trait that we may never grow out of. I’ve always been a resentful and bitter person even though I try my hardest not to let it influence my actions, and I know those feelings are misguided and don’t help matters at all, but they’ve been a constant all my life that I can’t break. The best thing I could do was try and reduce their severity by fixing the root cause of each insecurity, but there are still scars left behind and a grief over the time I’ve wasted. But the time will pass anyway, so we can only keep trying. My point is that those feelings suck but I think they’re normal for a lot of people and the only option we have is to use them as motivation, even if that won’t actually make them go away.
It's just wild to me that we can differ so much being the same species. like, one of my bros is just naturaly twiggy. doesn't exercise, doesn't eat particularly healthy, drinks on weekends, etc, doesn't seem to really even think or care about that sort of stuff. thin as a rail. even with the way food and everything is these days, these people somehow still can just be that way and i can't help but be a tiny bit resentful in some misguided homosexual way.
>Life isn't fair and there is nothing you can do about it, welcome to adulthood.
i know, i know, hence why i said it was a misguided homosexual feeling, but it just bubbles up every now and then, you know? I don't personally hold it against him or anything. it's like how it was in school, i didn't have to do homework and got by while other classmates did extra assignments and still struggled. i get it. i just wish science could find a way to extract whatever makes them tick and make it transplantable lol. but hey, down 3kg this week, so that's something right?
Gut biome. Eat skinny peoples' shit, basically and you will become thin. Stool transplant or whatever it's called, look it up.
Honestly, as distasteful as the fact that most people would rather inject god knows what concoction rather than eat less, this is still the better alternative than society collapsing because most people are too fat to function.
Bullshit, blunted cravings held off by extrogenous chemicals will return the split second they stop taking the drugs. Frick them and frick the pharma parasites that enable them.
What your statement implies is that it's ok for companies to sell people hyper-palatable heavily processed carcinogenic goyslop that makes people obese and kills them slowly. As if allowing this to happen is supposed to teach a person willpower, when in reality they'll never learn that lesson because of the massive delay in life ruining consequences and the prevalence and convenience of this kind of food. The fact that rates of obesity and overweight are continually increasing implies that few people are immune to this situation. But luckily for us, big pharma vultures are here to profit off the symptoms of the disease known as industrial agriculture
What your statement implies is that it's ok for companies to sell people hyper-palatable heavily processed carcinogenic goyslop that makes people obese and kills them slowly. As if allowing this to happen is supposed to teach a person willpower, when in reality they'll never learn that lesson because of the massive delay in life ruining consequences and the prevalence and convenience of this kind of food. The fact that rates of obesity and overweight are continually increasing implies that few people are immune to this situation. But luckily for us, big pharma vultures are here to profit off the symptoms of the disease known as industrial agriculture
These are both true. Companies are at fault for creating bad food and "discipline" has been used to excuse this. But you and I are aware of this and have done something about it so we don't end up fat. These people will be robbed of that personal development via this drug.
>These people will be robbed of that personal development via this drug.
Read: how dare people take the easy way this is so unfair!
Fact is, people all around the world are only getting fatter and appeals to just diet and exercise bro are clearly not working. Being fat is extremely detrimental to your health so anything that helps you lose bodyfat with minimal risk is worth it.
I don't currently take any semaglutide, however, I am losing plenty of weight from my diet and will attribute all of the success I've been having to semaglutide so that others will inject themselves with it. With no long-term data, it'll be hilarious to see what will become of the guinea pigs. Worse case scenario? A bunch of people lose weight. I can't possibly lose.
I get it for free on their patient assistance program and I'm not even black
Pharma prices are completely fake and just based on scamming insurance companies
Go to /fph/ and the catalog and you'll figure out real fast. It's genuinely fricking amazing that anyone would rather be 500 pounds and suffer all the drawbacks of that than to eat broccoli.
If it means people start caring about their body and stop self destructing binges, I'm all for it.
The drug's existence affects me same as test injections (zero).
Maybe the ex-hambeasts will gain some self esteem and stop being passive aggressive hyperleftist feminists as a result.
I'll be in my 60s in a decade. I'm 11-12% bf now. People have been telling me ((this)) is the decade my metabolism will tank every decade since I was 30. Maybe they'll be right over day.
I think the issue is that >people seem to believe that the metabolic slowdown that occurs in your late 20s/early 30s isn’t a sudden crash but a gradual decline, and it’s not a particularly steep one either. As long as you make mild adjustments over the years to keep up you can stay fit and healthy for the rest of your life (bar any chronic age related health issues rendering you immobile). You won’t be as strong as you were in your early to mid 20s, but still far better off than most people are at that age.
First of all >IST is one person
Any given dnp thread will have a few people pushing it and the vast majority calling anyone who uses it a suicidal moron that will go blind and cook alive.
Secondly, there's a huge difference between taking a shot that regulates your appetite because you're too weak willed to just eat less taken by normalgays who want to see their dick for the first time in years vs a tool for leaning out used in conjunction with a calorie deficit and exercise in order to preserve muscle mass compared to a normal cut.
The former can already be accomplished by eating less, the latter cannot because a long, drawn out cut just rapes your strength and mass gains.
I tried looking up the shot to see what was in it, but it seems more like it is a placebo. It looks like what they're really trying to get you to do is sign up for a $135 monthly subscription where they pair you up with coaches and doctors to help you on a weight loss plan along with taking the shot. Pretty sneaky. Or I am completely misunderstanding their website, and it is a weight loss shot, in which case the user will still be unhealthy with all of same aches and pains because they may be losing weight, but they are not doing any exercises to help strengthen their body and attack the root causes of their health issues. That is not even considering any side effects this thing could have.
This. Even le based and tradpilled Muslims are disgustingly fat, proving that they'll never convert the west but rather get corrupted by it. >captcha SH4RT
How fitting
>binging
Isn’t Ramadan intermittent fasting? Binging or not your body doesn’t absorb every calorie during the eating window if most of your time your body is busy with other functions and not always digesting the whole fricking day except sleep time
>Isn’t Ramadan intermittent fasting?
Barely. They gorge themselves in the morning before sun-up and then gorge themselves in the evening after sun-down. It's an early breakfast and late dinner, all they skip is lunch.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They this, they that. You really have no idea what Ramadan is about. Do you, kafir? But I don't blame you so let me answer. For one it's certainly not about eating.
As for you, not all hope is lost. You still have time, kafir. Redeem yourself through the righteous path but don't falter any longer than you have.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No one gives a frick. Keep your desert superstitions to your own enclaves.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Keep your desert superstitions to your own enclaves.
I'm saddened to see you being so hostile towards a brother, but that is to be expected from a kafir. Still, I appreciate the (You). And as a token of my appreciation, I will pray everything will makes sense at some point in your life.
Hopefully that's before the day of judgment beckons - when it's far too late to reconsider this golden opportunity. See you in the afterlife.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I live around and work with muslims. I know what I know from talking to these muslims about what they do.
How about you visit Europe one of these days, instead of holding wrong beliefs.
t. 18% obesity rate
0.1<% morbid obesity rate (not tracked)
What's the morbid obesity rate in the US?
Ive seen a similar injection that makes you shit out everything you eat. Your body only absorves the essential b4 expelling everything else. Fat frick friend of mine lost 30kg in 2 months with this and a diet + training.
Every night a cry because of how impotent I am towards ~~*their*~~ shenanigans. We should have stayed as monkeys in the caverns, but no, they wanted more. Im tired of this, we NEED to go back.
>Medication for weight loss in not cheating.
Yes it is. >It's not a shortcut
Yes it is. >It's nothing to feel guilty about
Yes it is. >It's a medication for a condition.
No, it is the final sign that gluttony has bested civilization.
Look, if it helps people lose weight, more power to 'em. But it is fricking sad as hell that it's gotten to this point. People are so desperate to keep inhaling constant goyslop that they need a fricking drug to make them stop.
I'm losing weight and people are just going to assume I took this concoction instead of doing it myself
I can guarantee in 5 years everyone who took this is going to have some major issue with some hormone production or something
God I fricking hope so. The worst thing to happen to American aesthetics in the last century was the crackdown on ephedrine diet pills. If we've just discovered a new way for lazy loose women to stop getting fat that's a new American Golden Age. Everyone's gonna be getting that sub-150 trim every time they go out to the dance clubs.
It's lack of respectable pussy that drives men to do evil things to other men. If there's enough willing spinners for everyone there's no reason to ever fight each other.
>hey fattie put down the fork haha >fattie uses medicine to do just that >NOOOO NOT LIKE THIS ITS UNNATURAL IT COULD HAVE SIDE EFFECTS HOW DARE YOU THIS IS A BIG PHARMA israelite CONSPIRACY FRICK
>churn out shit food with absurd calories >put it everywhere, shove it in everyones face wherever they go >people get fat >make a weight loss drug >advertise it everywhere >by using it they never change their food mindset meaning they will have to use it forever >it probably also fricks up your metabolism so they will need to use it forever anyway
ok, but what if you take the drug, and diet and exercise and then count calories until the end of time?
will schizo's ever get tired of making up situations (and facts) and then getting upset about them?
go to /r/ozempic if you wanna see nonstop posts about people crying about not losing weight cause they wont change their diets.
The cochler family did the same thing with opioids for pain relief and opioid addiction.
Everything medical kinda feels like a scam. Makes me wonder why so many of them are getting paid so much money when all sorts of medicine has terrible side effects that exist to make you even more sick.
>fricks your metabolism
You are absolutely fricking moronic and repeating the same kind of worthless broscience as pro fat supporters.
You can’t tank your metabolism unless you‘re literally starving.
>you will never win against the schizos
they're basically the same as wokists, impossible to reason with because everything is circular logic and positions don't need to be defensible, because they'll just throw another one at you if you shoot one down ad-infinitum. spend a minute on pol and you'll be educated for life about these people lol. two sides of the same coin.
>Everything medical kinda feels like a scam.
Maybe to you because you never needed them. For anyone who actually has a condition they want to improve, medication is king. Big pharma doesn’t make money sellings sugar pills, that only largely happens in the supplement industry.
>fricks your metabolism
You are absolutely fricking moronic and repeating the same kind of worthless broscience as pro fat supporters.
You can’t tank your metabolism unless you‘re literally starving.
>diabetic retinopathy (damaged blood vessels in the eye) >gallbladder disease, including gallstones or cholecystitis (gallbladder pain and swelling) >kidney problems >pancreatitis* (swelling of the pancreas) >increased risk of thyroid cancer*† >hypoglycemia* (low blood sugar)
Literally all of those conditions can happen with obesity and they are incredibly rare to begin with. It’s called risk-reward and the risk is very low. You don’t live underground in case a meteroid hits your position either, do you? Or explain to me how the obesity epidemic is somehow not a health hazard.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yes obesity is bad, and instead of swapping poisons they should just fix the issue in the first place, you would not legally be able to sell american bread in most countries because of the garbage they put in there. Anyone with eyes can see all the garbage fast food and junk food and the effect it causes and yet nobody is doing anything about it except profiting off it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
1. Ozempic is not poison and has a great safety profile.
2. Being obese is overall VERY bad for your health.
3. Banning food is not politically viable.
It's not the easy way out it is taking on a huge amount of risk (what are the long term side effects?) while paying out the ass for it
>long term side effects
How long term are we talking about? 500 years? With morbid obesity many people won‘t even make it to 40. GLP1 agonists have also been on the market for quite some time for other conditions so their long term side effect profile is known and does not differ from the short term side effect profile.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>"there are absolutely no unknown side effects"
Hey I remember you. Are you getting the same rate you got for covid vaccine shilling?
1 year ago
Anonymous
schizos think there are actually companies that pay people to shill products on IST
1 year ago
Anonymous
Imagine denying a website with millions of daily visits isn't a great target for advertising campaign
Still waiting for Bill Gates to activate the microchips.
still a scam pushed out at "speed of science"
1 year ago
Anonymous
Speed of science > worthless schizo ramblings on 4chin
1 year ago
Anonymous
The vax doesn't work, it's becoming more and more obvious. It was supposed to be 100% effective, remember?
1 year ago
Anonymous
It was effective in bringing down hospitalizations and excess mortality. Sadly delta and omicron mutated to fast to completely stop all infections but now the virus is at least harmless thanks to the vaccine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, natural immunity was, don't being a fricking moron your whole life
1 year ago
Anonymous
So explain why Republican states fared much worse during the omicron wave. Protip: you can’t.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It was effective in bringing down hospitalizations and excess mortality.
In my area I only heard of maybe few old people dying of it.
The elderly couple living next to us got through the illness quite fine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
my entire village back home in an eastern european country pretty much died cause noone would take the vaccine for religious purposes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It would make huge news
1 year ago
Anonymous
A random Eastern European village losing its population happens even without covid.
1 year ago
Anonymous
due to migration, most likely, not because people literally died
1 year ago
Anonymous
I have very religious relatives in Bosnia who are very religious and dont believe in modern medicine at all. There were about 10 dead in their village of 200 and all of them were well past 60 years old and fat.
1 year ago
Anonymous
5% is alot, just cause they were 60 and fat doesn't mean there death was just. It could have been avoided, but instead they got rekt by russian trolls spouting religion
1 year ago
Anonymous
Bosnians were crazy long before covid. Even the non-muslim ones would kick your ass if you dared insult Jesus even though their causal swears often mention Jesus and God. My aunt doesnt even believe in antibiotics.
1 year ago
Anonymous
greeks aren't any better
1 year ago
Anonymous
Covid had an ifr of 1% and hospitalization rate of 2-5%. Obviously most people would end up fine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>only the things i dont like is shilling.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Stop putting words in my mouth, homosexual.
nendoroid shilling is a thing
1 year ago
Anonymous
nendoroids look like shit and the only reason you should buy one is if they dont make other figures for that character (wish there was an akira ono figure
1 year ago
Anonymous
They're kind of cute.
But still shilling because the company literally owns IST(or it was Disney?)
1 year ago
Anonymous
Still waiting for Bill Gates to activate the microchips.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i'm curious about the combination drugs building up on GLP-1 agnoists that they're working on. Mounjaro is already out and the clinical studies i've seen for it have clinically significantly greater loss and glcuose control than just semaglutides. I read an article about it with interviews with some Lily top dogs, and they mentioned they're looking even further at studying a tirzepatide + Glucagon combo and other such things, their thinking that it would be even more effective somehow. it's wild, this is still "early days" for this kind of stuff. The same profile about mounjaro mentioned that Lily is now fully going to pursue obesity drugs, and the potential for profits from them is insane. supposedly they never really truly studied them deeply before because they were happy to coast on their cancer drugs and such, and they were always killed by committee because the ~~*members*~~ were afraid of wasting money on failed trials kek.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Future is going to be wild
1 year ago
Anonymous
honestly if it was like, some kind of sci-fi star trek perfect solution where everyone could be "innoculated" against obesity and just eat whatever whenever, IST would still find a way to have a problem with it kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
reality is fph types don't actually want you to stop being fat, otherwise they no longer have someone to insecurely rage at.
i'm like 14% bodyfat at most and i just bought some semaglutide online. why fight this shit? if fatties are gonna use it to become normal, i'm gonna use it to get extra frickin shredded
Fat is beautiful was just a crummy pharmaceutical advert? Can we look at current trends today which are being artificially pushed to see the next product they're making a market for? It would be crazy if it was the transitioning medical industry ahaha
every clinical study and trial for ozempic/wegovy also has included this, but plebbit fatoids ignore that bit, start pinning it while still trying to eat like a feral hog, and then are shocked when it stops working after a few months lel
I'm on Wegovy for weight loss because I aggravated my hallux rigidus down to the bone and over-exercised while weighing 250+ pounds to the point both of my Achilles tendons are dissolving (tendinosis). This is my last resort along with diet due to my reduced ability to exercise.
Nah, the wife is on Ozempic and while it works, it's not magic because all it does is mimic the effects of having gastric bypass by making your appetite disappear, but if you drink your calories, you're still gonna be fricked.
The wife likes alcohol too much, and gets pissed that she's only lost 33 lbs. in 4 months on it while barely eating, and I keep telling her that if she cut out the 500-600 cal./day of alcohol she consumes she'd make more progress. And yet, like women do, she won't listen and continues to complain about slower progress than she'd like.
If you just eat too fricking much, this shit will work, however, get used to the fact you're gonna puke every time you eat a few bites more than your body wants, because I've had to hear her barf at least 20 times now, and even when she might just eat 500 cal. in one sitting. Shit's weird.
I've been married for 21 years. If you get there yourself, you'll find that women become a mess at middle age. They like a bottle of wine every night and they ALWAYS put on weight as time goes on.
This is reality, kids, better buckle up because it'll be yours in due time.
I remember fasting when I was HUGE and I could barely eat after, I think my stomach shrank, fast foward to finishing the final cut and I had to eat like 6 pounds of food just to feel bloated and satisfied, and I can eat a fair fricking bit now.
Can I take this, use "liquid only" for the majority of my cutting cals > I.E blended Oats and Protein, and then overtime shrink my stomach again WHILE I don't have to worry about being hungry? Isn't that the final play for Obeasts?
I'm sure you could, but even drinking heavy shakes (such as, protein blended with some fruit) can frick my wife's stomach up and have her puking if she drinks it in less than an hour.
Literally, she says it's like she rarely wants to eat. Most days she's putting down 400-600 cal. at most from solid food. I've seen her hit 800-1000 cal. maybe 3 times in the past 4 months. Shit really does kill appetite by at least 50-70% for most people.
Tempted to try it.... I've lost 150+ legit, I'd rather do something to just perma regulate myself > I.E shrink stomach AGAIN, so it's hard as frick to eat more.
I remember having to forcefeed to eat enough again, that was at like 300 pounds. At 225 I ate 15 plates at the buffet after finishing my cut and almost passing out from hunger/hypoglycemia (undernourished, idc what people think UR STILL FAT, lolmao)
It should be made illegal purely to seperate those with shitty genetics, shitty willpower and mental illenss from those who have good genetics, good willpower and a healthy mind with a healthy relationship to food. How are we supposed to tell who is who now?
So fit thinks an addicted alcoholic should "just stop drinking lol". You don't know what being obese is like. You feel absolutely miserable all the time because you can't breathe well and you keep choking during sleep. You are not in control over your body. No fat person truly chooses to eat the food they eat.
I mean there's definitely changes you can make to help you manage your dietary habits and improve your physical health even with poor self control, but you need to be motivated in the first place. If you have some kind of psychological issue like depression or trauma then yea it'll be hard and you should seek professional help first
why do we tell alcoholics to get better and stop drinking instead of giving them an uber pill to make the bad effects and stuff go away? riddle me this/
i mean, naltrexone and disulfiram exist but you're right, they're generally not first-line treatment options. but when it gets to the point that the addiction is so bad that someone is likely to die from lack of self control, they become an option. a shitty one, but all the same. why are we opposed to the same thing for weight? if someone is so fat that they're killing themselves (bear with me), giving them an option to relieve some of that body burden isn't so bad, no? mind you, this is different from people just wanting to hop on a pill and change nothing and lose weight, but honestly, if that was possible i wouldn't see a problem with it either. why does a fat person "cheating" to lose weight affect you (as in everyone here, not you personally) at all? it literally has no bearing on you any more than guys using gear or other things like that.
>and the wellbeing of others actually does affect everyone else
so using this argument, you'd be for getting the fatties on the drug, then. because the alternative you're proposing is more or less them staying fat. you and i both know that they lack the will power and drive to stop being fat, regardless of how much people say fork putdowns and just stop eating. yeah, it's creating some kind of cattle class (though i'd argue we're already there) to have them permanently medicated to not be obese, but if them being thin is better for everyone, how can you argue against it?
I lost 17 kilo on my own and rebound 14 kilo back in half a year when I had a bad time at work and started binging like a possessed beast. I need glp1 to stop the binge. Taking meds to stop hunger is still a decision that takes willpower and takes away pleasure. My mother in law is morbidly obese. She discontinued taking metformin because it lowered her appetite. She literally chooses to desire the slop and kill herself by overeating.
>and the wellbeing of others actually does affect everyone else
so using this argument, you'd be for getting the fatties on the drug, then. because the alternative you're proposing is more or less them staying fat. you and i both know that they lack the will power and drive to stop being fat, regardless of how much people say fork putdowns and just stop eating. yeah, it's creating some kind of cattle class (though i'd argue we're already there) to have them permanently medicated to not be obese, but if them being thin is better for everyone, how can you argue against it?
nta but it's just sad that society has gotten to this point. big ag and big pharma work hand in hand to make people chronically sick and dependent. 42% obesity rates in the US, and obesity rates are rising worldwide. yea for some people maybe this drug is their only option, because even if they're forced to fast to a healthy weight in a controlled environment they'll still be released into the same society that made them obese in the first place
pinning chemicals to help with your goal is fine if you want muscles, but somehow intolerable, unacceptable, and contemptible if you want less fat. figure that one out.
i mentioned the agriculture industry no? humans are obviously not adapted to living with unlimited access to addictive foods and sedentary living. big pharma isn't creating the problem but they sure aren't helping
also the US isn't the only country with rising obesity rates
as for uni students i would suggest they redirect their efforts toward something that actually helps humanity instead of lining the pockets of pharmaceutical investors by making shit we don't need
pinning chemicals to help with your goal is fine if you want muscles, but somehow intolerable, unacceptable, and contemptible if you want less fat. figure that one out.
>poison the population with seed oils >charge them out the ass for medical treatment as they get morbidly obese >launder trillions through medical insurance >close the loop on social security scam >Sell a magic shot to fix the problems they cause
Can't wait to see what the fallout from this next round of problem causing treatment will be
It's a lack of mercury. This is on purpose, follow their advice, you get sick, then they sell you a cure. Result: you will get scammed and yiu will be happy.
The new drugs cause fat people to eat right since it lowers their appetite. Tell me how that is supposed to be wrong again? >inb4 appeal to nature fallacy
The studies prove that they are losing fat mass after taking those pills so either they are reducing their fat intake or increasing their energy expediture.
it's pointless to argue with the schizos here, ever since this thing has come out, they've decided that it's cheating and unacceptable and despite how much they hate fat people, they'd rather you stay fat and keep failing at "the right way" vs actually losing weight. it's insanity.
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Anonymous
Strawman moron the point is you do not need to poison yourself with pharmaisraelite in order to lose weight. We want people to lose fat and be happy theres no need to ruin their bodies with drugs
Euthanasia is still a better option
I hate the antichrist.
Schizophrenic moron
>unironically defending big pharma
What is wrong with you
>immediately gas lights in an attempt at sounding less moronic
NTA
>doesn't understand implication of what he said
>attacks it with meme words he doesn't understand
boost yourself
Hypocrite
Bases
They all belong to us.
This.
Genuinely pathetic reaction and communication. Seek professional help, you are not well.
I can't wait until they realise it dissolves the connective tissue in your brain and all the disgusting fatties die drooling.
>Connective tissue in your brain
Haha, what?
Where did you hear this? I'm sure it's justifiable, but as someone who knows quite a bit about biopsychology I'm here like 'lolwut?'
Connective tissue in the brain is pretty sparse, and unlikely to be dissolved by some injection, if ethyl alcohol, a solvent, doesn't dissolve it, not much will.
Are you talking about demyelination? Cause demyelination, except with certain conditions, is easily reversed. It's just fatty acids, if you eat enough diverse fats your brain will remyelinate itself as a matter of metabolic routine.
Schizos bring up any kind of nonsense in order to villify drugs that actually help.
NTA, but how does treating a symptom of a much bigger problem with an easy, band-aid solution help? People are just afraid, or too lazy, to actually work and put up with discomfort for results, and a weight-loss shot is only going to make things worse.
>Hmm, I think I'll hack my endocrine system so I don't have to do the thing naturally... what could go wrong?
Thalidomide was used for off-label purposes for years before they realized the horrific consequences of that quick and easy "solution."
this video really makes you think all that training has done that when it only accounted for what?... 20% of the weight loss? While the rest 80 is just changing your diet.
Depends what she was doing. Since she wasn't morbidly obese to start with if she only added some cardio and burned 300-400 kcal a day doing that it's entirely possible that she didn't change her diet at all. Not that I would recommend it, just saying.
It can also be bloat, the ammount of people that eat and drink processed crap and are permantly bloated ONTOP of being fatties is legit nuts.
my abs never feel tighter than when I've fasted for at least 24 hours
Feels good to give your gut a break for a little bit
Working out is a positive feedback loop. After working out you are also more inclined to improve your diet to improve your gains and performance
Working out is so much more than just physical results, though. I mean, the positive mental benefits can't even be put into words. But anyone that's gone from fat & lazy to fit & active knows exactly what I'm talking about. I remember when I went from 430 pounds to around 300, and I felt like a million dollars. I was so much more positive and happy. I couldn't wait to put on nice clothes and get out of the house. I'd make up excuses to do it. If I didn't exercise in the morning, I felt like shit all day. Just cranky and irritable.
And that was when I was still grossly obese. But that mindset stuck with me all the way down to 180. I'm still in the same place mentally. It had nothing to do with the physical condition of my body. It started long before I was fit. All from working out.
This except when I went from 465 to now I just hate how shit I look but can't bare to go back, it's not a "scared to be fat" it's just to ingrained into my head being in shape and eating right to eat shit.
my reasonings have always been vanity driven, and I hated how I smelled, I liked weights way before I quit being obeast, I just thought I HAD to do cardio of some sort. Woulda been a nuts powerlifter on the dreamer bulk
I don't usually find Asians attractive, but that tummy at the beginning might be enough to make me nut
What the frick is wrong with you that a slobby gut turns you on
Fat Asian women are disgusting, those gals are all tiny and don’t carry fat well, they are born to be petite.
My wife worked with a Japanese lady from Hawaii, she got fat as she got old and died a horrible death from type 2 diabetes.
Tummy without hips is an abomination, anon
i have severe yellow fever and i would never touch a girl with that big of a tummy
pure sexo
thats kinda gross
thats like 5 lbs anon. this drug is for megafats who can't even walk without destroying their knees
>thats like 5 lbs anon
No, it's not.
it kinda is. looks like 5lbs water weight and 5lbs fat concentrated in her belly, on a 120lb frame. probably took her a month at most
wow she managed to pull her leggings up over her gut. great job
this is a tiktok commercial for the pants shes wearing at the end
>skechers AND new balance apparel
the autistic duo
kek I went to the gym the other night and there's this zoomer there with the broccoli haircut that my brother and I refer to as "PCP Man" because he always acts like he's on PCP with his grunts and shrieks and muttering to himself.
He's unironically in great shape so good for him, but it's hilarious to watch him spaz his way around the gym. He shows up on Tuesday wearing New Balance sneakers and not just any ones, the stark white ones that my 70 year old father wears with his socks pulled up all the way.
Fricking hilarious. New Balance is like the official shoe of fricking weirdos, which is why I exclusively wear them, but even I have the sense to not buy the boomer shoes and get a pair of black or gray ones.
>let's her gut hang out
>suddenly pulls the leggings up over her gut
>profit?
For what it's worth though it does look like her arms get significantly less flabby so good for her
NOOOOOOOOOOOO, I WANT THE TUMMY!!!!!
ruined
try a cycle of test that will cure your fetish
looks like she just pulled her waistband higher
NOOOO HER TUMMY WAS SO KISSABLE AND GRABBABLE
Bros why do fat people at the gym lift weights instead of simply doing cardio at least to begin with
Tbf if you're over 30% bf you CAN build muscle while losing fat, and more muscle increases your bmr.
However. Because they dumb and cardio is hard when you're out of shape is the true answer.
Yes, thank you
>chung li learns to pull her pants up to cover her gut
lol these were all filmed on the same day
Look at her arms and waist idiot
>Look at her arms and waist idiot
fat asians would NEVER filters on social media
lol
Who doesn't love a potbelly.
woman
Shapewear was a mistake, but at least the message is "put in the work" instead of bullshit like "NORMALIZE FATNESS"
wow
I'm not going to google shit, spoon feed me Black person homosexual.
just a med that fixes hunger/satiety hormones in obeasts so that they do not have the urge to shovel 10k kcal daily. gets all the schizos out of wood works for whatever reason tho.
oh cmon bro don't sit there and pretend that it's not sad that people would rather take on a lifestyle of a diabetic then eat tasty varied food and spend time doing fun activities
Most people dread "being on a diet" even though for 99% of them it means eating tastier and more varied food. Only elite level athletes need to go into insane cuts.
Most people dread "excercise" even though for 99% of them it means doing fun stuff like going for walks, playing sports and games, and spending time with their friends. Only elite level athletes need aggressive programming with two or three workouts per day
I can't believe how a handful of grifters selling drugs managed to convince people that not being fat is somehow difficult or boring. Literal children will do "fitness" for fun if you let them be.
why are you straw manning me like that? if there really are people who struggle at as simple thing as not putting treats into their mouths then why couldn't they get some help in it. I see this medicine as no different than medication used to treat alcoholism.
I agree that it is sad that things have gone to this and so wrong. but honestly if some whale loses weight more easily with meds and thus becomes less of a burden for healthcare. I have to pay for with my taxes. then it's all better IMO.
Frick off with that cope. I'm fine with you dying decades before your time and costing me less.
And I'm fine with you dying decades before your time with a bullet to the head.
Difference is I won't have killed myself, fatty.
The idea is to get people to be better. Some think encouragement. You seem to think shame is the way to go. The world needs both really.
Shame never worked with obesity as that made fat people withdraw even more..
Maybe in your country. It works in places where shaming is a social deterrent.
the problem is that their own studies state a huge rebound in weight the moment they come off of it.
Imagine an alcoholism medicine that immediately makes you drink the moment you don't take it.
The studies also were conducted with diet and exercise, plus the drug. You think Reddit fatties are actually changing anything about their goyslophog lifestyle? Kek. They’ll probably bounce back fatter with a vengeance after not being able to handle some mild nausea
Thanks.
I guess if they absolutely cannot get over the first one or two weeks before the huge cravings go away this is helpful.
It's pretty sad that they'd rather get another drug instead of spending an hour on the internet researching and checking other peoples' experiences though.
This won't fix shit, because terminal fatties don't have just hunger issues. They eat to feel better mentally. The act of actually stuffing their face gives them satisfaction or at least suppresses their massive amounts of insecurity, self-hate, etc. temporarily. They eat to cope.
>hunger
They're eating out of boredom and addiction, not hunger.
Schizos hate all good medicine, be it finasteride, the vaccine or ozempics.
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Ozempic!
All I can think of is O-O-O-O'REILLEY
Man I’ve been yo-yoing from fit to fat all my life.
I really want to hop on dat dere ozempic, I have loads of money so that’s not a problem, but this shit is nowhere to be found. There’s a country wide shortage. Even diabetic people can’t get their fat hands on it.
Wat do?
>Wat do?
Carnivore diet.
>>Wat do?
>Carnivore diet.
Based and correct
Exactly. You could literally eat nothing but ribeye steaks and be at a perfectly healthy weight, while feeling great at the same time. If I had loads of money, that's nearly all I'd eat.
There's your miracle drug, it's called eating a proper human diet.
It basically does the same thing as intermittent fasting as far as grelin/insulin response is concerned.
When I was reading the biological aspects of it a few months ago, it sounded like it forced ketosis. The whole list was literally the biological effects of an extreme low-carb diet.
Fasting induces ghrelin resistance thus resistance to cravings, keep coping
>ages you 20 years
>fat >people surprised when they’re massive, bloated, stretched-out moon face sags after losing all the lard
>instead of blaming themselves for decades of stuffing their faces with garbage and stretching out their skin with lard, they blame the very drug that helped them lose the very same lard
If you know anything about fat >people this shouldn’t surprise you. Classic perma-victim mentality and never taking responsibility.
t. former fat >person
So would a gastric bypass or catching some kind of illness that causes rapid weight loss. It’s gaunt looking cause the fat is gone kek, isn’t special to this drug.
more fat = more estrogen = youthful appearance, in addition to what the other anons said
>more fate = youthful appearance
Jesus christ what are you smoking most fatties look 5-10 years older than they actually are at minimum let alone on average
see
it's almost as if you didn't read any of the reasons why the average fat person looks older after they lose weight. if losing weight made you look younger then "ozempic face"
wouldn't be a thing. try to keep up
They already look older when they're fat dumbass
and they'll look even older after they lose weight dumbass. lower E / higher T + sagging skin = older appearance. and it's known that roiders who blast androgenic drugs age like shit. you'll certainly live longer and be happier if you lose weight but you'll look older than you did when you were fat, it's just facts.
losing 100 pounds will always look better than whatever the frick you morons are arguing about
>signed t.ozempic user
this gaggle of morons would legitimately prefer you to stay a lardass than to lose the weight because you used a drug. nevermind that they also support gear which is kinda the same thing but hey. I think part of it is that if the fatties stop being fat, who are they going to vent their pent up manchild rage at?
>31
>pass as early to mid 20's
>still make good gains, strong facial hair growth, solid cheek lines etc
does this mean I am medium-high T, but also high E?
>can also think like and understand women relatively well
good for you
I have pronounced cheekbones so i thought I would look good when I'm older but when I turned 33 I started looking like a starving slavic jukie
possibly, naturally high T levels in men results in higher E2 due to conversion by aromatase
>34
>pass for early/mid 20's
>genetic female with high T
still seeing signs of aging. would getting on birth control or whatever to level out my hormones help me look younger?
you want more? if you pass as early/mid 20s you're already at the peak of female attractiveness. just eat healthy and stay active. maybe hop on a low dose of tretinoin (it's a topical retinoid you apply to your face)
Rapamycin, acarbose, adapalene, collagen peptides, hmw hyaluric acid, vitamin c, astaxanthin, sunscreen, face cleanser
Probably just high T, I'm 38 and people assume I'm in my 20s all the time (not baby face I have a beard).
take care your skin and wear sunblock. Being white helps too.
This happens regardless of the drug, if you had a rounder face due to higher body fat when you lose it will look gaunt
>t. lost 10 lb and I’d get comments my face looked completely different and aged, however I enjoy it, baby face is not worth a mush fat body just don’t be an anorexic
If you’re going to buy Chinese “research peptide” versions of it, might as well step up to Tirzepatide (brand name mounjaro). All trials and studies show it significantly having better results than semaglutide(ozempic/wegovy)
Eat less and exercise more. It’s really that simple. I went from a 190lbs obeast to 120lbs 12% body fat in a year (I am a turbo manlet, yes). Make sure you get more protein than fats and carbs for muscle repair, and DO NOT skimp on your exercise. Eating at a caloric deficit doesn’t just burn fat, your body burns some muscle too. This is why exercise is vital in weight loss even though diet is like 90% of it. If you don’t work out and take proper care of your muscle when cutting, you will become skinnyfat (which is both unhealthy and gross looking). I only did like 5 hours of exercise per week over that year, and half of it was cardio done via powerwalking, so it’s not a significant time or energy investment in the grand scheme of things. You have to really want it though, I’d tried half heartedly for years with no results and it was only when I hit a really bad depressive episode that I had the clarity to admit to myself just how miserable I was being fat and that I needed to change to make life worth living. So I did. Now life is a bit less shit, and it was far easier than I expected it to be. Still hard work, but not the gruelling process that it’s made out to be by media and bitter fatties.
I’m also borderline moronic, so if I can manage it then anyone can.
like most (ex-)fats his issue isn't losing weight it's keeping it off. basically it boils down to having to maintain an exercise habit and dietary intervention that doesn't come naturally to them or that they don't enjoy, so when they can't put so much attention to managing their weight for whatever reason they rebound
but like, literally why can naturally skinny people just "be" without ever giving it second thought, and i can't even after months if not years of training and telling myself to. it's bullshit, and not fair.
There's lots of different possible reasons, various genes and hormones influence BMR, body composition, activity levels, digestive efficiency, mood/personality, etc., all of which in turn influence your TDEE. And even with everything else being the same, something as small as a 50 kcal/day difference can turn into a 52lb difference over a decade (10 years * 365 days/year * 50 kcal/day / 3500 kcal/lb).
It's just wild to me that we can differ so much being the same species. like, one of my bros is just naturaly twiggy. doesn't exercise, doesn't eat particularly healthy, drinks on weekends, etc, doesn't seem to really even think or care about that sort of stuff. thin as a rail. even with the way food and everything is these days, these people somehow still can just be that way and i can't help but be a tiny bit resentful in some misguided homosexual way.
Life isn't fair and there is nothing you can do about it, welcome to adulthood. Also the skinny guy envies guys with more mass because they're stronger and he feels emasculated by them.
It's like hair: People with curls want straight hair, people with straight hair want curls.
>Life isn't fair and there is nothing you can do about it, welcome to adulthood.
i know, i know, hence why i said it was a misguided homosexual feeling, but it just bubbles up every now and then, you know? I don't personally hold it against him or anything. it's like how it was in school, i didn't have to do homework and got by while other classmates did extra assignments and still struggled. i get it. i just wish science could find a way to extract whatever makes them tick and make it transplantable lol. but hey, down 3kg this week, so that's something right?
agree
t. 6'5 150lb 22 year old malding that it'll take me like 7 fricking years to look normal.
I still feel that way even after getting fit. I think it’s just a fatbrain trait that we may never grow out of. I’ve always been a resentful and bitter person even though I try my hardest not to let it influence my actions, and I know those feelings are misguided and don’t help matters at all, but they’ve been a constant all my life that I can’t break. The best thing I could do was try and reduce their severity by fixing the root cause of each insecurity, but there are still scars left behind and a grief over the time I’ve wasted. But the time will pass anyway, so we can only keep trying. My point is that those feelings suck but I think they’re normal for a lot of people and the only option we have is to use them as motivation, even if that won’t actually make them go away.
Gut biome. Eat skinny peoples' shit, basically and you will become thin. Stool transplant or whatever it's called, look it up.
>I’ve been yo-yoing from fit to fat all my life.
Then you've never, EVER been "fit".
Society is doomed
>a pointy rock to take down tree ? tribe is lost
Yes an Axe cutting down a tree is the same as an eating disorder plus drugs
one hand and 3 fingers of tribesmen must die
Honestly, as distasteful as the fact that most people would rather inject god knows what concoction rather than eat less, this is still the better alternative than society collapsing because most people are too fat to function.
They still have fatbrain though
Maybe not, since they'll eat less and get used to it.
Bullshit, blunted cravings held off by extrogenous chemicals will return the split second they stop taking the drugs. Frick them and frick the pharma parasites that enable them.
not to mention most people eat out of habit or boredom, not hunger.
no change in habit -> no weight loss
>not to mention most people eat out of habit or boredom, not hunger.
This.
I have a feeling this shit is being pushed by ((them)) so they can continue to pretend ((they)) aren't the problem
I have invented a shot of lead that cures obesity instantly and permanently.
>apply directly to the forehead
weight loss pill? noo tv said is dangerous. injectable weight loss pill? woow everyone is buzzing about this new invention
(even if they work roughly the same way and have the same side effects)
Doubt they have same side effects, on our boomer parents time the sketchy weight loss pills were actually parasite eggs that did cause weight loss.
we're just further creating a society with absolutely no willpower
I'm pretty sure that's the plan.
What your statement implies is that it's ok for companies to sell people hyper-palatable heavily processed carcinogenic goyslop that makes people obese and kills them slowly. As if allowing this to happen is supposed to teach a person willpower, when in reality they'll never learn that lesson because of the massive delay in life ruining consequences and the prevalence and convenience of this kind of food. The fact that rates of obesity and overweight are continually increasing implies that few people are immune to this situation. But luckily for us, big pharma vultures are here to profit off the symptoms of the disease known as industrial agriculture
If you don't like capitalism, you can always frick off to Cuba, commie
No. A society without discipline.
Which is worse.
moron
>what is a thesaurus
>thinks willpower and discipline are the same
These are both true. Companies are at fault for creating bad food and "discipline" has been used to excuse this. But you and I are aware of this and have done something about it so we don't end up fat. These people will be robbed of that personal development via this drug.
>These people will be robbed of that personal development via this drug.
Read: how dare people take the easy way this is so unfair!
Fact is, people all around the world are only getting fatter and appeals to just diet and exercise bro are clearly not working. Being fat is extremely detrimental to your health so anything that helps you lose bodyfat with minimal risk is worth it.
It's not the easy way out it is taking on a huge amount of risk (what are the long term side effects?) while paying out the ass for it
I don't currently take any semaglutide, however, I am losing plenty of weight from my diet and will attribute all of the success I've been having to semaglutide so that others will inject themselves with it. With no long-term data, it'll be hilarious to see what will become of the guinea pigs. Worse case scenario? A bunch of people lose weight. I can't possibly lose.
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>They will give you the disease, so they can sell you the cure.
>$1200 a month
>additional $100 a month (doesn’t include medication)
>lifelong drug
I take drugs for my eczema that are 37,000 per year
I get it for free on their patient assistance program and I'm not even black
Pharma prices are completely fake and just based on scamming insurance companies
i wonder what kind of horrible side affects people would prefer to endure rather than diet and exercise
Being fat brings its own share of side effects and the super duper majority of users don’t even get any sides to begin with.
Go to /fph/ and the catalog and you'll figure out real fast. It's genuinely fricking amazing that anyone would rather be 500 pounds and suffer all the drawbacks of that than to eat broccoli.
>Tfw new covid shots every weak
If it means people start caring about their body and stop self destructing binges, I'm all for it.
The drug's existence affects me same as test injections (zero).
Maybe the ex-hambeasts will gain some self esteem and stop being passive aggressive hyperleftist feminists as a result.
>people will take some injection that does god knows what to your body instead of doing fork put downs.
It sad because they only have to do one fork down a day and they can’t even do that.
If they replaced soda with water they'd fight a good 30% of the fight with that alone.
That's the joke. It's a fricking placebo. You get injected with NOTHING, and you get COACHING, CARE AND HEALTHY LIFESTYLE CHANGES
It's like those bullshit As Seen On TV exercise machines. "I lost 70lbs with this machine!"***
***regularly exercising, use of the machine, ~~*monitoring caloric intake*~~ over 6 month period
Being fat will literally kill you. Nature is not good or healthy.
Hope it's just as safe and effective as the COVID vax.
I think it’s expensive and most extreme fats are also very poor.
>the board that shilled DNP for years now claims less fat people is a bad thing
lol
sad shit. even sadder when you realize half of these crabs will end up fat themselves within a decade
I'll be in my 60s in a decade. I'm 11-12% bf now. People have been telling me ((this)) is the decade my metabolism will tank every decade since I was 30. Maybe they'll be right over day.
I think the issue is that >people seem to believe that the metabolic slowdown that occurs in your late 20s/early 30s isn’t a sudden crash but a gradual decline, and it’s not a particularly steep one either. As long as you make mild adjustments over the years to keep up you can stay fit and healthy for the rest of your life (bar any chronic age related health issues rendering you immobile). You won’t be as strong as you were in your early to mid 20s, but still far better off than most people are at that age.
First of all
>IST is one person
Any given dnp thread will have a few people pushing it and the vast majority calling anyone who uses it a suicidal moron that will go blind and cook alive.
Secondly, there's a huge difference between taking a shot that regulates your appetite because you're too weak willed to just eat less taken by normalgays who want to see their dick for the first time in years vs a tool for leaning out used in conjunction with a calorie deficit and exercise in order to preserve muscle mass compared to a normal cut.
The former can already be accomplished by eating less, the latter cannot because a long, drawn out cut just rapes your strength and mass gains.
you must be new here
People who take DNP deserve what they get too.
Nobody sane has ever advocated the use of DNP.
I tried looking up the shot to see what was in it, but it seems more like it is a placebo. It looks like what they're really trying to get you to do is sign up for a $135 monthly subscription where they pair you up with coaches and doctors to help you on a weight loss plan along with taking the shot. Pretty sneaky. Or I am completely misunderstanding their website, and it is a weight loss shot, in which case the user will still be unhealthy with all of same aches and pains because they may be losing weight, but they are not doing any exercises to help strengthen their body and attack the root causes of their health issues. That is not even considering any side effects this thing could have.
powerful image
>Ads for drugs
What the frick.
It's considered a medical drug, so that's normal.
welcome to america.
You underestimate the sheer gluttony of fatties.
>eat slop that kills you
>inject drugs to cope with the slop killing you
America should be thrown into lava
don't act like yuropoors are any better. The whole world minus Japan is gone
This. Even le based and tradpilled Muslims are disgustingly fat, proving that they'll never convert the west but rather get corrupted by it.
>captcha SH4RT
How fitting
Ramadan is just a whole month of binge eating, of course they gonna become fat as frick once they have easy access to food.
>binging
Isn’t Ramadan intermittent fasting? Binging or not your body doesn’t absorb every calorie during the eating window if most of your time your body is busy with other functions and not always digesting the whole fricking day except sleep time
>Isn’t Ramadan intermittent fasting?
Barely. They gorge themselves in the morning before sun-up and then gorge themselves in the evening after sun-down. It's an early breakfast and late dinner, all they skip is lunch.
They this, they that. You really have no idea what Ramadan is about. Do you, kafir? But I don't blame you so let me answer. For one it's certainly not about eating.
As for you, not all hope is lost. You still have time, kafir. Redeem yourself through the righteous path but don't falter any longer than you have.
No one gives a frick. Keep your desert superstitions to your own enclaves.
>Keep your desert superstitions to your own enclaves.
I'm saddened to see you being so hostile towards a brother, but that is to be expected from a kafir. Still, I appreciate the (You). And as a token of my appreciation, I will pray everything will makes sense at some point in your life.
Hopefully that's before the day of judgment beckons - when it's far too late to reconsider this golden opportunity. See you in the afterlife.
I live around and work with muslims. I know what I know from talking to these muslims about what they do.
>The whole world minus Japan is gone
Lets see how my country does..
US obesity rate: 40% - #11 in the world
Netherlands obesity rate: 20% - #99 in the world
>no better
Ok.
USA! USA! USA!
Now do diabetes rate.
How about you visit Europe one of these days, instead of holding wrong beliefs.
t. 18% obesity rate
0.1<% morbid obesity rate (not tracked)
What's the morbid obesity rate in the US?
I'd guess 20+% off the top of my head
40% obese, 10% severely obese
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/106273
Ive seen a similar injection that makes you shit out everything you eat. Your body only absorves the essential b4 expelling everything else. Fat frick friend of mine lost 30kg in 2 months with this and a diet + training.
Nah. morons will just use it as an excuse to eat more.
Every night a cry because of how impotent I am towards ~~*their*~~ shenanigans. We should have stayed as monkeys in the caverns, but no, they wanted more. Im tired of this, we NEED to go back.
good
>Medication for weight loss in not cheating.
Yes it is.
>It's not a shortcut
Yes it is.
>It's nothing to feel guilty about
Yes it is.
>It's a medication for a condition.
No, it is the final sign that gluttony has bested civilization.
>muh cheating
Absolute fricking state of you
Look, if it helps people lose weight, more power to 'em. But it is fricking sad as hell that it's gotten to this point. People are so desperate to keep inhaling constant goyslop that they need a fricking drug to make them stop.
You call it cheating, I call it winning.
You underestimate the ability of fatties to stuff their maw
>proven results
That pic is what will happen if they DON'T take the medication, anon
weird alligator, what's his name?
Frick me, you can still see the sock mushed in with whats left of the bones and slop.
Grimmmm
Fuuuuuuck yoooooooou (but really, frick fatties)
how the frick
chronic constipation be like
is that a boiled hand?
imagine the smell
What is it
Fatties will still find a way to gain weight even though they’re on meds kek
Checked but it doesn't cause you to lose weight just reduce hunger. People who eat and are massive aren't eating because they're hungry.
The women who will line up to get these shots will also judge you if you admit to roiding.
Can't wait to see the side effects they bribed the government to ignore popping up in ~5-10 years.
noone here actually knows how a semiglutide works but it sure brings out all the schizos.
quick make thread 142354332 of finesteride/fph/keto/fast/ for the homosexuals to jerk eachother off in
I'm losing weight and people are just going to assume I took this concoction instead of doing it myself
I can guarantee in 5 years everyone who took this is going to have some major issue with some hormone production or something
once bad eating habits are ingrained in the head of a fat moron no drugs will change them
Fit will push shots that help gain muscle, but won't entertain shots that help lose fat
>I shiggy diggy do
Because those morons only listen to youtube influencers and hate anything that’s conventional.
God I fricking hope so. The worst thing to happen to American aesthetics in the last century was the crackdown on ephedrine diet pills. If we've just discovered a new way for lazy loose women to stop getting fat that's a new American Golden Age. Everyone's gonna be getting that sub-150 trim every time they go out to the dance clubs.
It's lack of respectable pussy that drives men to do evil things to other men. If there's enough willing spinners for everyone there's no reason to ever fight each other.
>hey fattie put down the fork haha
>fattie uses medicine to do just that
>NOOOO NOT LIKE THIS ITS UNNATURAL IT COULD HAVE SIDE EFFECTS HOW DARE YOU THIS IS A BIG PHARMA israelite CONSPIRACY FRICK
they don't eat because of hunger,they do it out of habit
thats how they stretch out their stomachs dumbass
Hunger, appetite it’s all the same
>churn out shit food with absurd calories
>put it everywhere, shove it in everyones face wherever they go
>people get fat
>make a weight loss drug
>advertise it everywhere
>by using it they never change their food mindset meaning they will have to use it forever
>it probably also fricks up your metabolism so they will need to use it forever anyway
ok, but what if you take the drug, and diet and exercise and then count calories until the end of time?
will schizo's ever get tired of making up situations (and facts) and then getting upset about them?
go to /r/ozempic if you wanna see nonstop posts about people crying about not losing weight cause they wont change their diets.
The cochler family did the same thing with opioids for pain relief and opioid addiction.
Everything medical kinda feels like a scam. Makes me wonder why so many of them are getting paid so much money when all sorts of medicine has terrible side effects that exist to make you even more sick.
post body, and financial situation
you will never win against the schizos
>you will never win against the schizos
they're basically the same as wokists, impossible to reason with because everything is circular logic and positions don't need to be defensible, because they'll just throw another one at you if you shoot one down ad-infinitum. spend a minute on pol and you'll be educated for life about these people lol. two sides of the same coin.
>Everything medical kinda feels like a scam.
Maybe to you because you never needed them. For anyone who actually has a condition they want to improve, medication is king. Big pharma doesn’t make money sellings sugar pills, that only largely happens in the supplement industry.
>fricks your metabolism
You are absolutely fricking moronic and repeating the same kind of worthless broscience as pro fat supporters.
You can’t tank your metabolism unless you‘re literally starving.
yea im sure the magic medicine that makes you lose weight is perfectly safe
The side effect profile seems pretty safe. There’s plenty of drugs with only benefits.
>diabetic retinopathy (damaged blood vessels in the eye)
>gallbladder disease, including gallstones or cholecystitis (gallbladder pain and swelling)
>kidney problems
>pancreatitis* (swelling of the pancreas)
>increased risk of thyroid cancer*†
>hypoglycemia* (low blood sugar)
Literally all of those conditions can happen with obesity and they are incredibly rare to begin with. It’s called risk-reward and the risk is very low. You don’t live underground in case a meteroid hits your position either, do you? Or explain to me how the obesity epidemic is somehow not a health hazard.
Yes obesity is bad, and instead of swapping poisons they should just fix the issue in the first place, you would not legally be able to sell american bread in most countries because of the garbage they put in there. Anyone with eyes can see all the garbage fast food and junk food and the effect it causes and yet nobody is doing anything about it except profiting off it.
1. Ozempic is not poison and has a great safety profile.
2. Being obese is overall VERY bad for your health.
3. Banning food is not politically viable.
>long term side effects
How long term are we talking about? 500 years? With morbid obesity many people won‘t even make it to 40. GLP1 agonists have also been on the market for quite some time for other conditions so their long term side effect profile is known and does not differ from the short term side effect profile.
>"there are absolutely no unknown side effects"
Hey I remember you. Are you getting the same rate you got for covid vaccine shilling?
schizos think there are actually companies that pay people to shill products on IST
Imagine denying a website with millions of daily visits isn't a great target for advertising campaign
still a scam pushed out at "speed of science"
Speed of science > worthless schizo ramblings on 4chin
The vax doesn't work, it's becoming more and more obvious. It was supposed to be 100% effective, remember?
It was effective in bringing down hospitalizations and excess mortality. Sadly delta and omicron mutated to fast to completely stop all infections but now the virus is at least harmless thanks to the vaccine.
No, natural immunity was, don't being a fricking moron your whole life
So explain why Republican states fared much worse during the omicron wave. Protip: you can’t.
>It was effective in bringing down hospitalizations and excess mortality.
In my area I only heard of maybe few old people dying of it.
The elderly couple living next to us got through the illness quite fine.
my entire village back home in an eastern european country pretty much died cause noone would take the vaccine for religious purposes.
It would make huge news
A random Eastern European village losing its population happens even without covid.
due to migration, most likely, not because people literally died
I have very religious relatives in Bosnia who are very religious and dont believe in modern medicine at all. There were about 10 dead in their village of 200 and all of them were well past 60 years old and fat.
5% is alot, just cause they were 60 and fat doesn't mean there death was just. It could have been avoided, but instead they got rekt by russian trolls spouting religion
Bosnians were crazy long before covid. Even the non-muslim ones would kick your ass if you dared insult Jesus even though their causal swears often mention Jesus and God. My aunt doesnt even believe in antibiotics.
greeks aren't any better
Covid had an ifr of 1% and hospitalization rate of 2-5%. Obviously most people would end up fine.
>only the things i dont like is shilling.
Stop putting words in my mouth, homosexual.
nendoroid shilling is a thing
nendoroids look like shit and the only reason you should buy one is if they dont make other figures for that character (wish there was an akira ono figure
They're kind of cute.
But still shilling because the company literally owns IST(or it was Disney?)
Still waiting for Bill Gates to activate the microchips.
i'm curious about the combination drugs building up on GLP-1 agnoists that they're working on. Mounjaro is already out and the clinical studies i've seen for it have clinically significantly greater loss and glcuose control than just semaglutides. I read an article about it with interviews with some Lily top dogs, and they mentioned they're looking even further at studying a tirzepatide + Glucagon combo and other such things, their thinking that it would be even more effective somehow. it's wild, this is still "early days" for this kind of stuff. The same profile about mounjaro mentioned that Lily is now fully going to pursue obesity drugs, and the potential for profits from them is insane. supposedly they never really truly studied them deeply before because they were happy to coast on their cancer drugs and such, and they were always killed by committee because the ~~*members*~~ were afraid of wasting money on failed trials kek.
Future is going to be wild
honestly if it was like, some kind of sci-fi star trek perfect solution where everyone could be "innoculated" against obesity and just eat whatever whenever, IST would still find a way to have a problem with it kek
reality is fph types don't actually want you to stop being fat, otherwise they no longer have someone to insecurely rage at.
i'm like 14% bodyfat at most and i just bought some semaglutide online. why fight this shit? if fatties are gonna use it to become normal, i'm gonna use it to get extra frickin shredded
I have been stealth banned for having opinoins which are too based, ama (protip you won't).
Fat is beautiful was just a crummy pharmaceutical advert? Can we look at current trends today which are being artificially pushed to see the next product they're making a market for? It would be crazy if it was the transitioning medical industry ahaha
every clinical study and trial for ozempic/wegovy also has included this, but plebbit fatoids ignore that bit, start pinning it while still trying to eat like a feral hog, and then are shocked when it stops working after a few months lel
nice
I'm on Wegovy for weight loss because I aggravated my hallux rigidus down to the bone and over-exercised while weighing 250+ pounds to the point both of my Achilles tendons are dissolving (tendinosis). This is my last resort along with diet due to my reduced ability to exercise.
what kind of exercise caused this? walking?
Fast walking for two hours three days a week, rain or shine, no excuses. I wish I'd varied my exercise but that's hindsight.
Yeah it's called Test E, started pinning 250mg/wk at 330 pounds and 40+% bf, down to 285@ 24%bf. It costs me a whopping $40 a month.
Why would you get injected with this crap when modafinil wastes your appetite for good?
where do you get it
this
Haters mad that I bought 40mg total of Semaglutide and am now making ez gains with fat loss
Enjoy trying hard to make little progress
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11912843/New-weight-loss-shot-melts-fat-WITHOUT-nasty-effects-Ozempic-Wegovy-study-suggests.html
JUST STOP EATING YOU FRICKING FATTIES
Chinks so lazy they need ozempic and shill. Kay chinese pharmaculture burn out soon
Just don’t eat
100% effective
I'm too scared to inject anything, what if it's a lethal injection?
There's pills.
bmp
Nah, the wife is on Ozempic and while it works, it's not magic because all it does is mimic the effects of having gastric bypass by making your appetite disappear, but if you drink your calories, you're still gonna be fricked.
The wife likes alcohol too much, and gets pissed that she's only lost 33 lbs. in 4 months on it while barely eating, and I keep telling her that if she cut out the 500-600 cal./day of alcohol she consumes she'd make more progress. And yet, like women do, she won't listen and continues to complain about slower progress than she'd like.
If you just eat too fricking much, this shit will work, however, get used to the fact you're gonna puke every time you eat a few bites more than your body wants, because I've had to hear her barf at least 20 times now, and even when she might just eat 500 cal. in one sitting. Shit's weird.
you have a fat alcoholic no work ethic wife?
why would you admit this
I've been married for 21 years. If you get there yourself, you'll find that women become a mess at middle age. They like a bottle of wine every night and they ALWAYS put on weight as time goes on.
This is reality, kids, better buckle up because it'll be yours in due time.
I remember fasting when I was HUGE and I could barely eat after, I think my stomach shrank, fast foward to finishing the final cut and I had to eat like 6 pounds of food just to feel bloated and satisfied, and I can eat a fair fricking bit now.
Can I take this, use "liquid only" for the majority of my cutting cals > I.E blended Oats and Protein, and then overtime shrink my stomach again WHILE I don't have to worry about being hungry? Isn't that the final play for Obeasts?
I'm sure you could, but even drinking heavy shakes (such as, protein blended with some fruit) can frick my wife's stomach up and have her puking if she drinks it in less than an hour.
Literally, she says it's like she rarely wants to eat. Most days she's putting down 400-600 cal. at most from solid food. I've seen her hit 800-1000 cal. maybe 3 times in the past 4 months. Shit really does kill appetite by at least 50-70% for most people.
Tempted to try it.... I've lost 150+ legit, I'd rather do something to just perma regulate myself > I.E shrink stomach AGAIN, so it's hard as frick to eat more.
I remember having to forcefeed to eat enough again, that was at like 300 pounds. At 225 I ate 15 plates at the buffet after finishing my cut and almost passing out from hunger/hypoglycemia (undernourished, idc what people think UR STILL FAT, lolmao)
It should be made illegal purely to seperate those with shitty genetics, shitty willpower and mental illenss from those who have good genetics, good willpower and a healthy mind with a healthy relationship to food. How are we supposed to tell who is who now?
Then we need to ban everyone who has shitty genetics including you.
So fit thinks an addicted alcoholic should "just stop drinking lol". You don't know what being obese is like. You feel absolutely miserable all the time because you can't breathe well and you keep choking during sleep. You are not in control over your body. No fat person truly chooses to eat the food they eat.
stop opening your mouth and fricking eating
camp prisoner, start opening your mouth and fricking eating
I mean there's definitely changes you can make to help you manage your dietary habits and improve your physical health even with poor self control, but you need to be motivated in the first place. If you have some kind of psychological issue like depression or trauma then yea it'll be hard and you should seek professional help first
Most people who go on a glp1 are already committed to changing their lives and have come to accept their life is out of control.
why do we tell alcoholics to get better and stop drinking instead of giving them an uber pill to make the bad effects and stuff go away? riddle me this/
i mean, naltrexone and disulfiram exist but you're right, they're generally not first-line treatment options. but when it gets to the point that the addiction is so bad that someone is likely to die from lack of self control, they become an option. a shitty one, but all the same. why are we opposed to the same thing for weight? if someone is so fat that they're killing themselves (bear with me), giving them an option to relieve some of that body burden isn't so bad, no? mind you, this is different from people just wanting to hop on a pill and change nothing and lose weight, but honestly, if that was possible i wouldn't see a problem with it either. why does a fat person "cheating" to lose weight affect you (as in everyone here, not you personally) at all? it literally has no bearing on you any more than guys using gear or other things like that.
they're going to rebound to eating slop after the pill does the job and the wellbeing of others actually does affect everyone else
>and the wellbeing of others actually does affect everyone else
so using this argument, you'd be for getting the fatties on the drug, then. because the alternative you're proposing is more or less them staying fat. you and i both know that they lack the will power and drive to stop being fat, regardless of how much people say fork putdowns and just stop eating. yeah, it's creating some kind of cattle class (though i'd argue we're already there) to have them permanently medicated to not be obese, but if them being thin is better for everyone, how can you argue against it?
I lost 17 kilo on my own and rebound 14 kilo back in half a year when I had a bad time at work and started binging like a possessed beast. I need glp1 to stop the binge. Taking meds to stop hunger is still a decision that takes willpower and takes away pleasure. My mother in law is morbidly obese. She discontinued taking metformin because it lowered her appetite. She literally chooses to desire the slop and kill herself by overeating.
nta but it's just sad that society has gotten to this point. big ag and big pharma work hand in hand to make people chronically sick and dependent. 42% obesity rates in the US, and obesity rates are rising worldwide. yea for some people maybe this drug is their only option, because even if they're forced to fast to a healthy weight in a controlled environment they'll still be released into the same society that made them obese in the first place
Why is big pharmacy the only bad guy to anons but never 90 percent of the other things that make America shit?
BTW you know who really makes these discoveries right and drug research. Hint it's university students in a lab.
uni students need to be sent to prison
pinning chemicals to help with your goal is fine if you want muscles, but somehow intolerable, unacceptable, and contemptible if you want less fat. figure that one out.
i mentioned the agriculture industry no? humans are obviously not adapted to living with unlimited access to addictive foods and sedentary living. big pharma isn't creating the problem but they sure aren't helping
also the US isn't the only country with rising obesity rates
as for uni students i would suggest they redirect their efforts toward something that actually helps humanity instead of lining the pockets of pharmaceutical investors by making shit we don't need
that includes roids too strawmaning moron
>poison the population with seed oils
>charge them out the ass for medical treatment as they get morbidly obese
>launder trillions through medical insurance
>close the loop on social security scam
>Sell a magic shot to fix the problems they cause
Can't wait to see what the fallout from this next round of problem causing treatment will be
>Side effects may include... being gay, depression, stroke, death, increased obesity
>happy people dancing
You do realize this is being promoted not to improve people's mood but to reduce the cost of having a fat frickin population? You know that, right?
It's a lack of mercury. This is on purpose, follow their advice, you get sick, then they sell you a cure. Result: you will get scammed and yiu will be happy.
>don't be fat
>fat people call you a fake natty
>mfw fatties would do literally anything to lose weight except eat right
The new drugs cause fat people to eat right since it lowers their appetite. Tell me how that is supposed to be wrong again?
>inb4 appeal to nature fallacy
You know damn well fatties aren't eating right after taking these shots.
The studies prove that they are losing fat mass after taking those pills so either they are reducing their fat intake or increasing their energy expediture.
*reducing their food intake
it's pointless to argue with the schizos here, ever since this thing has come out, they've decided that it's cheating and unacceptable and despite how much they hate fat people, they'd rather you stay fat and keep failing at "the right way" vs actually losing weight. it's insanity.
Strawman moron the point is you do not need to poison yourself with pharmaisraelite in order to lose weight. We want people to lose fat and be happy theres no need to ruin their bodies with drugs
give me the yellow dye shit and ill be happy