All sweeteners, especially aspartame, are cancerous
Being obese is probably worse for you though so do your own risk management
I would advise that you ween yourself off of sodas by drinking flavored sparkling water l
sugar industry has a huge incentive to prove that aspartam is bad for you and they still couldn't do it. It's safe.
Both will keep you fat, because both spike your insulin and make you ravenous.
I had to quit sugar completely before
I was able to lose weight. I'm ashamed to admit I simply do not have the willpower to eat sugar, or sugar substitutes and overcome the resultant cravings.
When the recent "might be cancerous" news were released, I checked out the recommend maximum daily intake and then how much of that stuff is in coke zero. You have to drink massive amounts of coke zero to reach the maximum. IIrc it was over 10 liters. Nobody is able to drink that much coke zero in a day.
tl;dr nothing burger
All sweeteners, especially aspartame, are cancerous
Being obese is probably worse for you though so do your own risk management
I would advise that you ween yourself off of sodas by drinking flavored sparkling water l
This, sodas are poison.
Sparkling water with falvors kept me oput of the soda hell for years they are the best.
I talk about the one with just aroma in it not the ones with fuking sugar.
>All sweeteners, especially aspartame, are cancerous
We're all going to get ass cancer from all the meat we eat daily long before aspartame gets a chance to kill us.
sodas and all those high syrup products are just drugs. straight up. just like cigarettes, anyone who's not "in" on the addiction can't even ingest them without gagging. nasty shit. just find a way off the addiction and the rest comes naturally.
I went over 5 years without getting a single drop of soda and still thought it was great the first time I had it afterwards. People get addicted for a reason, it just tastes good.
this post reeks of fatness
just because you can’t control yourself doesn’t mean its a “drug” lol
what’s next are glazed donuts a drug too because you always have to eat the whole box fatty?
They have to have some sort of liner on the inside otherwise the aluminum would react with the acidity of the soda. Generally this will be a very thin plastic film. This is not just an American thing, as it's necessary to keep the can intact.
But that shouldn't be a problem with cold drinks?!
You're correct in case of soups or other shit that is heated for pasteurization after being filled in the can, though.
Heats only catalyzes those chemical reactions with the plastic, they don't trigger it. If something sits 8n the can for long enough the plastic will still dissolve, just less and less quickly.
>being in a house with paint >using deodorant >using laundry detergent >being near cars and their plastic tires >drinking water
I could go on
You already got plastic in you, you cant avoid it
I drink coke zero personally
don't listen to moronic anons thinking the aspartame in a can of wiener zero is going to give YOU cancer. the radiation from their phones is most probably more harmful than coke zero. they read 'cancer' and freak out but fail to realise that everything can give you cancer today. there's also no studies that shows that aspartame increase insulin spike, you all just been victim of propaganda and browse to much fit
reminder that aspartame is dangerous for human in very large quantity, which is not even close to being at least 4 cans of coke a day. the microplastic in your tap water is more harmful than a soda
aspartame is one of the most studied substance in the world. it's safe.
water is always the best ofc >inb4 dyel anon reply with nonsense thinking they are superior because they don't drink soda
coke zero on a cut is a god send, and if you don't think this is the case you are obese
Aspartame is poison. It breaks down into methanol and fromaldehyde in the body. It's also been shown in studies of rats to cause cancer and organ damage.
Yes. But its used in 1/150-200 quantities of sugar.
And it doesn't break down when passing trough the digestion system..
The bigger problem is that it still cause the craving and hunger that tablesugar do, meaning substituting isn't a worthwhile idea vs just drinking soda and keeping your CICO stable.
>The bigger problem is that it still cause the craving and hunger that tablesugar do
Doesnt happen to most people. Like ever. 99%. This is an overblown talking point to crap on artificial sweeteners.
If that where true, drinking Pepsi Max or just artificially sweetened tea would have the same effect as abstaining.
The only benefit you get is the CICO and the lack of a blood sugar spike.
>If that where true, drinking Pepsi Max or just artificially sweetened tea would have the same effect as abstaining.
Flawed logic, clearly. There is no non-effect cause. >The only benefit you get is the CICO and the lack of a blood sugar spike.
Thats the entire point.
They both use artificial sweeteners, just drink the one you like better. It’s essentially inert material that you’re consuming.
Don’t listen to people telling you that it causes cancer. It’s in the same carcinogen group as pickled vegetables. You know what’s considered worse? Drinking hot drinks and eat red meat.
I’m not saying that aspartame never causes cancer, but you would have to inject a metric shitton.
How fricking obese do you have to be to ask this question? All soda is horrible for you, asking which is better than the other is like asking which 9mm bullet hurts the most when fired at your skill moron. If you are serious about losing weight you will need to completely cut out soda or only have it once a month.
One is marketed toward men, one to women, literally the only difference. That said, both are bad for you and you should move on to at worst bubly or some other carbonated water instead.
Substitute soda with seltzer water. Avoid the artificially sweetened seltzers. Just stick to plain or naturally flavored. It's how I kicked soda and I haven't looked back. Polar seltzer is my preferred brand.
Both are fine replacements for now. The goal should be to change your habits without setting off fears you'll never have things you like again. All fatties are overly attached to foods so if you cut out everything before you can find a healthy option you love, you'll fail eventually.
Your goal will be to rely on water eventually. Not because sweeteners are evil, or cause insulin spikes, or cause inflammation, or any of those poorly supported half-truths. When you're truly ready to let go of food addiction, you will no longer need to taste sweet and over flavored things constantly. Getting there quickly will help you break foods power over you faster.
Cutting back to seltzer flavored with drink enhancers or flavor extracts is your next step. Very liberating to have control over your food. Check out oooflavors for an absurdly large range of sugar and sweetner free flavors. Get some citric acid and stevia as well. That covers just about every flavor you could think of.
From here, get used to non sweetened seltzer. Maybe a but of flavoring, some citric acid, maybe some apple cider vinegar, but just lightly flavored to not get bored. At any time now you can just pull back to plain water or carbonated. Enjoy your freedom from the old life and the junk food that dominated it.
they're both zero calories, it doesn't matter
stay away from the one with aspartame at all costs
sugar industry has a huge incentive to prove that aspartam is bad for you and they still couldn't do it. It's safe.
Both will keep you fat, because both spike your insulin and make you ravenous.
I had to quit sugar completely before
I was able to lose weight. I'm ashamed to admit I simply do not have the willpower to eat sugar, or sugar substitutes and overcome the resultant cravings.
Based moron.
>Based moron.
Nice argument moron, aspartam doesn't spike your insulin.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/003193849090126O
>multivariable study
Learn to read your own studies. Seriously. The study literally proves you wrong
When the recent "might be cancerous" news were released, I checked out the recommend maximum daily intake and then how much of that stuff is in coke zero. You have to drink massive amounts of coke zero to reach the maximum. IIrc it was over 10 liters. Nobody is able to drink that much coke zero in a day.
tl;dr nothing burger
They’re both poison, it doesn’t matter.
All sweeteners, especially aspartame, are cancerous
Being obese is probably worse for you though so do your own risk management
I would advise that you ween yourself off of sodas by drinking flavored sparkling water l
This, sodas are poison.
Sparkling water with falvors kept me oput of the soda hell for years they are the best.
I talk about the one with just aroma in it not the ones with fuking sugar.
>All sweeteners, especially aspartame, are cancerous
Only in extremely high daily doses
complete myth
>All sweeteners, especially aspartame, are cancerous
We're all going to get ass cancer from all the meat we eat daily long before aspartame gets a chance to kill us.
sodas and all those high syrup products are just drugs. straight up. just like cigarettes, anyone who's not "in" on the addiction can't even ingest them without gagging. nasty shit. just find a way off the addiction and the rest comes naturally.
I stop drinking soda like 2 years ago and still crave a cold soda especially in summer
real sugar sodas, like mexican coke are at least better for you than cornsyrup, if only marginally
I went over 5 years without getting a single drop of soda and still thought it was great the first time I had it afterwards. People get addicted for a reason, it just tastes good.
this post reeks of fatness
just because you can’t control yourself doesn’t mean its a “drug” lol
what’s next are glazed donuts a drug too because you always have to eat the whole box fatty?
It is embarrassing reading your posts.
You remind me of a child proud they know what DNA stands for.
This x1000. Kick your craving for sweet soda drinks and you’ll never go back to them
Try flavored sparkling like another anon suggested
>sodas and all those high syrup products-
Another post assuming everyone is American. The rest of the world uses real sugar.
Stop drinking soda, my man. The aspartame, sucralose, whatever else that'll be pushed as a sweetener will always cause an insulin spike.
diabetes vs cancer. Which one would you rather have?
Make switchel
apple cider vinegar, ginger, water, and a sweetener (part molasses and either maple, spruce syrup or honey,)
Neither are going to be good for you. If you really have to drink one, go for the Coke Zero. It tastes better, closer to actual Coke.
These diet sodas are sneed oil tier. Let it go man
Coke Zero tastes almost exactly like the real thing, while Diet Coke tastes like crap.
They're both shit. Drink water only and after a week it will start tasting good
>drinking from cans lined with plastic
enjoy your xenoestrogens
wtf are you on about? they're alu inside? is this an american thing?
They have to have some sort of liner on the inside otherwise the aluminum would react with the acidity of the soda. Generally this will be a very thin plastic film. This is not just an American thing, as it's necessary to keep the can intact.
But that shouldn't be a problem with cold drinks?!
You're correct in case of soups or other shit that is heated for pasteurization after being filled in the can, though.
Heats only catalyzes those chemical reactions with the plastic, they don't trigger it. If something sits 8n the can for long enough the plastic will still dissolve, just less and less quickly.
>being in a house with paint
>using deodorant
>using laundry detergent
>being near cars and their plastic tires
>drinking water
I could go on
You already got plastic in you, you cant avoid it
get addicted to the taste of preworkout instead
I drink coke zero personally
don't listen to moronic anons thinking the aspartame in a can of wiener zero is going to give YOU cancer. the radiation from their phones is most probably more harmful than coke zero. they read 'cancer' and freak out but fail to realise that everything can give you cancer today. there's also no studies that shows that aspartame increase insulin spike, you all just been victim of propaganda and browse to much fit
reminder that aspartame is dangerous for human in very large quantity, which is not even close to being at least 4 cans of coke a day. the microplastic in your tap water is more harmful than a soda
aspartame is one of the most studied substance in the world. it's safe.
water is always the best ofc
>inb4 dyel anon reply with nonsense thinking they are superior because they don't drink soda
coke zero on a cut is a god send, and if you don't think this is the case you are obese
this. even water is poisonous in too high a dose so megadose tests on rats aren't worth shit
cold water ftw
also I need pic related like you wouldn't believe , just saw the ad lmao
Aspartame is poison. It breaks down into methanol and fromaldehyde in the body. It's also been shown in studies of rats to cause cancer and organ damage.
Yes. But its used in 1/150-200 quantities of sugar.
And it doesn't break down when passing trough the digestion system..
The bigger problem is that it still cause the craving and hunger that tablesugar do, meaning substituting isn't a worthwhile idea vs just drinking soda and keeping your CICO stable.
>The bigger problem is that it still cause the craving and hunger that tablesugar do
Doesnt happen to most people. Like ever. 99%. This is an overblown talking point to crap on artificial sweeteners.
If that where true, drinking Pepsi Max or just artificially sweetened tea would have the same effect as abstaining.
The only benefit you get is the CICO and the lack of a blood sugar spike.
>If that where true, drinking Pepsi Max or just artificially sweetened tea would have the same effect as abstaining.
Flawed logic, clearly. There is no non-effect cause.
>The only benefit you get is the CICO and the lack of a blood sugar spike.
Thats the entire point.
AQUA! AQUA!
They both use artificial sweeteners, just drink the one you like better. It’s essentially inert material that you’re consuming.
Don’t listen to people telling you that it causes cancer. It’s in the same carcinogen group as pickled vegetables. You know what’s considered worse? Drinking hot drinks and eat red meat.
I’m not saying that aspartame never causes cancer, but you would have to inject a metric shitton.
Water
How about you start drinking water like a normal human being?
Fat people are so weak and lazy.
Agua.
Both are awful. Drink water.
I’m lean and put sweetener in a bunch of shit
Pepsi Maxx
don't drink either
ditch sugar
How fricking obese do you have to be to ask this question? All soda is horrible for you, asking which is better than the other is like asking which 9mm bullet hurts the most when fired at your skill moron. If you are serious about losing weight you will need to completely cut out soda or only have it once a month.
One is marketed toward men, one to women, literally the only difference. That said, both are bad for you and you should move on to at worst bubly or some other carbonated water instead.
Neither. Drink kefir like an actual human being
Don't be a pussy, just stop, deal with the mild discomfort of not drinking soda and move on knowing you accomplished something.
mini-Hispanic doesn’t even know what it says
>will not sell soda
>slaps canola oil, peanut oil, and any vegetable oil on the grill to fry his steak tacos
ok buddy
Anon, he's just trying to get some good boy points with the women that fall for that shit he'll make more money for his family. Cut him some slack.
Drink one regular before ur workout, the rest of the day hydrate with good old h2o and electrolytes
Substitute soda with seltzer water. Avoid the artificially sweetened seltzers. Just stick to plain or naturally flavored. It's how I kicked soda and I haven't looked back. Polar seltzer is my preferred brand.
I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke
Lose weight and then drink a diet coke while standing in front of a mirror.
Oh, you are missing out
https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/xl/det-norske-brusmysteriet-1.15977254
Both are fine replacements for now. The goal should be to change your habits without setting off fears you'll never have things you like again. All fatties are overly attached to foods so if you cut out everything before you can find a healthy option you love, you'll fail eventually.
Your goal will be to rely on water eventually. Not because sweeteners are evil, or cause insulin spikes, or cause inflammation, or any of those poorly supported half-truths. When you're truly ready to let go of food addiction, you will no longer need to taste sweet and over flavored things constantly. Getting there quickly will help you break foods power over you faster.
Cutting back to seltzer flavored with drink enhancers or flavor extracts is your next step. Very liberating to have control over your food. Check out oooflavors for an absurdly large range of sugar and sweetner free flavors. Get some citric acid and stevia as well. That covers just about every flavor you could think of.
From here, get used to non sweetened seltzer. Maybe a but of flavoring, some citric acid, maybe some apple cider vinegar, but just lightly flavored to not get bored. At any time now you can just pull back to plain water or carbonated. Enjoy your freedom from the old life and the junk food that dominated it.
Diet is worse despite havinh less sugar
Drink water like a normal human