>rentboy in london for a rich israelite homosexual that was friends with jimmy saville >moved to america >rentboy for homosexual israelite weider and does "private posings" for another gay photographer >5k per month "living expenses" from the weiders isn't eough to living comfortable in 1977 for arnold >fly to spain to do more "private posings" for another rich homosexual >quit bodybuilding to go to Hollywood where the richer israelite homos live >get in politics where the richest of a israeli homosexuals dwell >be a RINO and push every zog policy >bash nazi father >suck wieners and swallow the cum of the entire bilderberg group world economic forum >be fisted by klaus schwab himself while george soros films it >tell americans "frick your freedumz."
Don’t forget fricked that goblina maid enough to accidentally impregnate her, then abandoned his bastard son until it became convenient enough to gain social support because he had a natural body for bodybuilding
Have you lived under a rock?
wienery, pretentious idiot. I tried liking him I really did. Frick Arnold. I have some respect for him, but damn he's a twat...
Talking of twats, J Cutler is also kinda twat, but he's got a special flavour of autism I think.
RONNIE is king, period. Great body and great personality.
This is a 100% true story >Mike Mentzer is competing, sure to win Mr. O >Arnold is NOT competing in this one, has already won (a few times I think?) so he’s known and respected, is opinions are generally considered solid ones about the sport >Arnold meets with the judges just before it starts >YAAAAA I DONT THINK MENTZER SHUD WEEN HAHAHA I JUST DONT WANT HIM TO WIN HES NOT WINNING BECAUSE I SAID SO YA HAHAHA HE CANT WEEN HE SHOULDNT WEEN >had literally nothing to gain from doing this, did it anyways, there wasn’t even a personal beef between the two before this or anything. He just did it to do it.
The dudes a fricking psychopath. He robbed Mentzer of the win without even competing.
Sauce on this? I've never heard anyone say that Arnold personally had anything to do with how that Olympia went down. He was just given a special invited and the judges were biased in his favor. Not his fault personally.
When I look back at those pictures, I always come to the same conclusion:.
There were three guys who could have won the show: Arnold, Mike Mentzer, and Roy Callender
I personally think Roy Callender deserved the win more than Mike. Ultimately, you can make the case for any of those three winning. Arnold was noticeably bigger and more impressive than anyone else on stage, so that's why I guess he got the win if you assume it wasn't rigged. I don't look at the results and see robbery of any sort no matter how hard I look. Arnold wasn't undeserving of the win.
>always does that moronic lean and rotation to his right to hide his square waist >dogshit abs >dogshit legs >tiny delts >tiny traps
Glorified curlbro.
DORIAN for the new path he pened and for having his eyes opened to many thinks, from Bodybuilding to the israeli Question.
Secondly Frank Zane for the Aesthetics.
>inb4 they're israelites
I don't give a shit
All you Dorian enjoyers should be Cbum fans because he has the same britbong muscle insertions. 1:1 massive lats, shit biceps, width, long torso, lumpy quads. Chris is weight capped though, he would've been dangerous in the open during Dorian's time. Chris has that early 90s classic look.
The only thing that really seems off aesthetically about Zane there is the triceps bulge in the back. Following the line of the shoulders down makes thing the triceps should be smaller.
lol average varbie at a crossfit gym in anytown, usa is bigger than this little israelite. he actually had a real job and never prostituted himself like arnold though, so i'll give him that.
I gotta go with Lee Haney on this one. He dominated at a really competitive time in bodybuilding history but never blew up and turned into a mass monster. He brought the aesthetics every time and made bodybuilding look like a respectable sport. He isn't associated with any controversies and was never gifted any wins he didn't deserve. He's also a class act and represents bodybuilding exactly how it should be represented. He also retired at a young age and stayed healthy.
Ronnie was natural in 1992, which was the year of his first Mr Olympia in which he placed dead last. He gained more than 70lbs of lean hard muscle tissue over the following several years after starting steroids post 1992 in order to win the coveted Mr Olympia for the first time in 1998 and dominate like no other before him, winning 8 consecutive Mr Olympia titles from 1998 to 2005.
He states here in this interview in 1992 before the 1992 Mr Olympia that he was natural:
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In 1991 he had similar FFMI to the top pre-steroid era bodybuilders (see pic related). Except that Ronnie had better genetics, muscle shape, insertions, small joints, muscle separation, small waist etc. which made him look more impressive at similar sizes. And overall better genetics for gaining muscle naturally, probably one of the best ever known. His top 99.999% genetic ability to gain muscle naturally is what allowed him to be superior to every other pro bodybuilder once he started taking the same drugs they did after he competed natural at the 1992 Mr Olympia. He surpassed them all easily within the space of 5 years, and dominated the Mr Olympia for 8 years to become the best bodybuilder in the history of mankind.
This is freak outlier genetics. Once in a lifetime. Most other bodybuilders once they reach the Olympia stage are already maxed out and don't really change all that much from year to year. Whereas Ronnie piled on at least 70 more pounds of lean tissue AFTER his first Olympia in 1992 where he competed naturally. This is unheard of at the Olympia level, and indicated subsequent commencement of muscle building steroids and growth hormones after the 1992 Mr Olympia in which he was a natural athlete.
Just a reminder that Ronnie got to the Mr Olympia stage in 1992 naturally. Cope and seethe everybody.
He was popping dianabol and anavar and shit like every strength athlete on earth in the 1980's. Then he learned the secrets of what bodybuilders really take and that's when he became a monster. He was not natty for shit.
They weren't available to people and DHT doesn't build muscle.
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Yes they were and yes they do lol dht derived steroids are amazing and have higher binding affinity to the ar receptor than test. There was oral methyltest and other stuff around aswell. You are just some dumb homosexual who believes liar fraud bodybuilders lmao
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dht derived steroids didn't exist until the late 1950s and 60s
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They started being released 1930 so where around 1920s even earlier.
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No, testosterone was first synthesized in the mid 1930s, and all that existed from that point was testosterone base, propionate and methyltestosterone until the mid to late 1950s when dianabol and other synthetic testosterone modified compounds that are popular today were developed.
The first official documented testing of testosterone in US athletes was in the early to mid 1950, with further testing in the late 1950s when dianabol was invented. This is when the roided bodybuilder era started, from 1960 onwards.
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Yeah youre wrong lol. Actual drug testing wasnt even serious until the 90s you moron.
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I'm not talking about drug testing, I didn't mention that. I said that coaches were doing trial runs of testosterone on their olympic weightlifter athletes to see if it improves their strength. John Grimek was one of the first guys who tested testosterone and said it didn't work for him. They didn't know how to dose testosterone properly. This was in the early to mid 1950s.
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Proviron was released to public sale 1930 by schering lol. They had it atleast one to two decades before that.
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>Proviron was released to public sale 1930 by schering lol.
Where are you getting your incorrect information from?
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>Proviron represents one of the oldest anabolic androgenic steroids on the market. A product of the giant pharmaceutical company Schering, it would first appear in 1934. Officially known as Mesterolone, it has appeared under numerous brand names over the years, but the Proviron name has continually remained dominant. It has also remained one of the most misunderstood anabolic steroids among steroid users
If its released for public in 30s that means they had it 10 to 20 years prior and run clinical trials before releasing to market you fricking moron.
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represents one of the oldest anabolic androgenic steroids on the market. A product of the giant pharmaceutical company Schering, it would first appear in 1934. Officially known as Mesterolone, it has appeared under numerous brand names over the years, but the Proviron name has continually remained dominant. It has also remained one of the most misunderstood anabolic steroids among steroid users
This is rubbish. Incorrect information. It was first released to market in 1967 after being first developed in 1966.
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Im calling your source garbage over mine. Whats even funnier is you seem to think peds are only aas lmao when theres multiple groups of drug classes that are PEDs.
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>its released for public in 30s that means they had it 10 to 20 years prior and run clinical trials before releasing to market you fricking moron.
LMFAO
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They had all types of stuff early 1900, agmatine was invented 1910.
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Yeah because every trial done in the 30s is uploaded on the le net lmao.
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The trials on testosterone in the 1930s where documented and have been uploaded to the net. No anabolic steroids existed before the 1930s, that's why there is no data on them.
Anyway, you are either trolling, or are some dumb zoomer.
I'm not wasting any more of my time on midwits.
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Why are you just focusing on aas? Do you not understand what PEDs can also be? For example even a stimulant will jack up for hormone production vs natty, youd be enhanced. Same as taking chemical aminos, youd be enhanced vs natty. Thats not even getting into the other drug groups that PEDS fall into. People were 100% enhanced from 1930s.
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not DHT based, just DHT (stanolone), which is inactivated in the muscle tissue by an enzyme and converted to very weak hormones
DHT increases your ability to lift heavy and will give you separation like masteron by sucking out the subcutaneous water, but as a muscle builder it's worthless
all they had in those days was testosterone, which wasn't being used for athletes until the 50s, and then methyltestosterone which sucks ass, the start of the PED era was when Dbol was invented and they started giving test prop to athletes
No dude. He was natural when he first started competing in 1990. You can go look at pictures and video from that time. When it came time to compete in more serious shows like NPC qualifiers and Nationals, he started taking PED's to look better on stage. He didn't immediately blow up in size, but you can tell that his muscles had a fullness and dryness that wasn't there before. It's an obvious sign of PED usage.
1990 vs 1992 is not a huge difference when we talk about what he was doing like 30 years ago. He probably just forgot exactly at what point he started or he likes to fudge the numbers to make it sound more impressive, but it is pretty obvious that he started taking gear around 1990/1991.
Yes, he has really good genetics, but human beings don't produce Winstrol naturally.
You wrote all that shit for what reason? You Ronnie’s boyfriend or something? The frick is wrong with you you must look like absolute shit and have no idea where great natural genetics can actually take you to think he’s natural there. Fricking moron
Ronnie here, he’s my ex boyfriend and I pay him to keep my charade alive to disguise the fact I roided harder than anyone on stage heheh. The proof is in the pudding I roided myself into a wheelchair heh yeah buddy it sucks
this has gotta be the most perfectly sculpted physique i've ever seen, it looks too good for bodybuilding, he looks like a baki character, he looks like he could break every world record in every sport on the planet
The man weighted 90kg and was below 10% body fat.
He then started taking roids and went to 136kg. At below 5% body fat.
Can you even comprehend how insane that is?
This kind of specimen shows up once every 1 billion humans. Possibly even rarer, since the chances of another going the body-building route is negligible.
Undisputed #1 for me, followed by Cutler and Platz. Greene, Yates, BlackBlack person, Heath, Oliva and Priest are also great.
He was 90kg and taking shit like anavar/deca/Dianabol/primo that was typical of strength athletes in the 70's and 80's. He blew up to become a mass monster when he went on the Frankenstein regimen of megadoses of test, tren, Anadrol, insulin, etc.
The guy competed as a powerlifter in high school and work as a cop. He didn't not know what fricking steroids were. He just wasn't versed on the new protocols that became the norm in the 90's.
>He was 90kg and taking shit like anavar/deca/Dianabol/primo that was typical of strength athletes in the 70's and 80's. He blew up to become a mass monster when he went on the Frankenstein regimen of megadoses of test, tren, Anadrol, insulin, etc.
That's not how steroids work. You make most of your gains in your first few cycles, then it slows down. Just like with natty training.
Ronnie outlined his cycle in an anonymous video in the late 90s. He took about 2 grams plus small amounts of gh and insulin. No mention of tren or anadrol. Just test, deca, primo and dianabol for bulking.
Kevin Levrone took 1700 mg to get on the olympia stage with no insulin or gh at all. 600 test 400 deca and 700 anadrol. The the last 2 weeks drop everything and just run winstrol and halotestin for hardening.
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2 grams is the sweet spot for steroids, diminishing returns kick in hardcore above this level. The body just can't process that amount of ligand.
It's genetics. You can find people working manual labor jobs all over the world living off potatoes, rice, or bread just shredded. How? Genetics. Take one of those guys add 6 to 8 meals a day of chicken breasts. Add a vigorous 6 day split at Golds gym and a dash of cardio for a few YEARS. Picture what you think you'd get. Remember he was getting in last place up until Flex Wheeler taught him how to take gear then he kinda just "came out of nowhere" and began dominating. Look it up.
Derek. >aesthetic but freaky mass monster >round but peeled >incredible work ethic >humble but assertive >believes in Christ unironically >qt waifu >has hair >white
I fricking hate ramboner so much. Can none of the moronic bodybuilders figure out how to take drugs on their own? Even Bumstead pays this piece of shit.
You need an expert to guide you through the process of peaking for a show if you want to come at your best. Yeah, you can do it by yourself if you know everything about the process, but it will always be better to have another set of eyes looking at you objectively and telling you exactly what to do.
Idk about my fav but least favorite for sure is ronnie. >weird as frick looking abs >weird looking calves >nipples melted off chest and or weird looking >overall alien looking, completely unaesthetic >hideous face to top it all off >Dumbass voice
I legitimately find his physique respulsive, not even joking
Arnold destroyed it, he was actually one of the first mass monsters. Pre Arnold it was all aesthetic dudes with perfect physiques. Zane was the GOAT, pre Arnold was the golden era. Post Arnold was the mass monster juice box era.
Sergio had some amazing genetics for this sport.
On the type of gear that they were running back then, these kind of Baki proportions is silly gross; all of that without any destruction to his face and gut due to bloat.
Arnie when he wasnt in comp cut mode or frank zane. Mass monsters ruined the sport, moved it from being self-perfection through iron will to roidtroons with severe mental disabilities (yes I know arnie and the others roided too)
Ronnie came in really small and off in 2002. Then in 2003 he came in the freakiest a bodybuilder has ever been on stage. He wanted to prove a point. And he did it. Nobody has come close to this dense and detailed muscularity since.
Prime Phil Heath was the most complete bodybuilder from head to toe, muscle wise. All other Mr Olympias had glaring body part flaws by comparison.
If Phil had a wider shoulder bone structure it would be over for everyone beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Competed in powerlifting since he was in high school
Played other sports in high school
Played college football
Worked as a cop
Trained at a hardcore bodybuilding
To suggest that someone with this background wouldn't know what steroids are and dabble in them to get better results is absolutely preposterous. Ronnie Coleman wasn't some farm boy from bumfrick Egypt who was naturally big and strong from doing farm work. He was involved with the scene on some level since he was basically a kid.
Yes, he was incredibly gifted and talented, but get the frick outta here if you think he was natty until someone told him what steroids were.
Part of professional fitness is lying, and its so that everyone else never gets bigger or stronger than you. Arnold told everyone to drink beer instead of milk, for example.
>Yes, he was incredibly gifted and talented, but get the frick outta here if you think he was natty until someone told him what steroids were.
Ronnie was so elite genetically that he could build an amazing physique naturally and have no need to juice, just rely on his freak genetics. He only capitulated on his natty status when he realized that his natural genetics could only get him so far and he would have to actually roid to get anywhere and be competitive in the big leagues. Then he started roiding after his first couple of Mr Olympia dissapointments and exploded in size.
Ronnie only did powerlifting comps between 1991 and 1994
https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/ronniecoleman
Before 1989 Ronnie only trained causally and haphazardly. His first proper bodybuilding gym was metroflex gym which the owner gave him a free gym membership in exchange for making him train for and enter a bodybuilding competition, because the owner saw his potential. He had to be convinced, almost bribed to train as a bodybuilder.
It's pretty obvious to me that it was around this time that he either started taking gear or taking a serious amount of gear to compete in bodybuilding. The transformation is radical.
It also happens to be the same time he got serious about bodybuilding.
Here's an example of some who was small and unimpressive naturally and turned into a freakazoid when he went full enhanced. Somewhere along the way he was big and impressive and enhanced but not anywhere near his final form. That was Ronnie in 1992. He wasn't natty for shit, but he still had a lot of growing to do. It's not always an off and on thing.
Bad example, Nick Walker over-dieted for his first show because he didn't know what he was doing. He went from 220+ down to 160 or something like that crash dieting natty. Lost a lot of muscle. He was always naturally huge as a teenager. Pic of him at 17 before he did his first comp.
He looked great in 1993 and turned to shit after that. All of his subsequent wins were gifted to him.
In 1994 they fricked over Shawn Ray, who had probably the most perfect physique ever to grace a bodybuilding stage, and gave it to Dorian, who had a torn bicep and a bubble gut.
In 1997 they fricked over Nasser and gave it to Dorian, who had a bubble gut, a torn bicep, AND a torn tricep.
The guy looked like dogshit for almost the entirety of his rein as Mr. Olympia.
Shawn never won a single Olympia. He had the most proportioned physique there ever was in competitive bodybuilding. It was by conventional bodybuilding standards perfect.
It's a shame that the sport went in the direction it did. Dorian was the beginning of that.
Right. Your diet is shit. Your workout regimen is garbage. You lack discipline, patience, and knowledge. And now you've come on here and projected your own perceived limitations on another because you don't have what it takes to reach your own potential.
>If you want to talk about 2000 era best physique in human history, i give you... THE RUHLER (picrel)
Here are some still camera shots of the same competition, not as impressive as the distorted video. Everyone looked freaky in that video.
you realize normal people are who decide this stuff right? don't expect fame without judgement from normies, if you do mr olympia stuff don't pretend like you don't seek their validation too
probably ronnie coleman. but he isnt my favorite bodybuilder of all time, that probably has to go to john meadows or lee priest. if we are talking strictly physique i have other favorites, but those guys just have great personalities. RIP mountain dog.
obviously my favorite physique has to be paul dillett, the original >ULTRA >GIGA >homie >ONLY TRIPS CAN DAMAGE HIM >QUADS BANISH HIM FOREVER
paul dillett had a fricking insane physique and i have no idea how he never won the big O title
Gotta be Arnold for me. He's a shitty dude off the stage but on stage he was just about perfect
after you realize he tries to hide his waist in every pose you can't unsee it, he just looks goofy to me
His waist is right there
How is he a shitty dude off stage?
He supported the COVID hysteria.
Who didn't?
Me
>rentboy in london for a rich israelite homosexual that was friends with jimmy saville
>moved to america
>rentboy for homosexual israelite weider and does "private posings" for another gay photographer
>5k per month "living expenses" from the weiders isn't eough to living comfortable in 1977 for arnold
>fly to spain to do more "private posings" for another rich homosexual
>quit bodybuilding to go to Hollywood where the richer israelite homos live
>get in politics where the richest of a israeli homosexuals dwell
>be a RINO and push every zog policy
>bash nazi father
>suck wieners and swallow the cum of the entire bilderberg group world economic forum
>be fisted by klaus schwab himself while george soros films it
>tell americans "frick your freedumz."
That frick your freedoms comment is all i ever needed to hear to realize that arnold is and was a fake
Don’t forget fricked that goblina maid enough to accidentally impregnate her, then abandoned his bastard son until it became convenient enough to gain social support because he had a natural body for bodybuilding
Have you lived under a rock?
wienery, pretentious idiot. I tried liking him I really did. Frick Arnold. I have some respect for him, but damn he's a twat...
Talking of twats, J Cutler is also kinda twat, but he's got a special flavour of autism I think.
RONNIE is king, period. Great body and great personality.
For me it’s Mentzer.
This is a 100% true story
>Mike Mentzer is competing, sure to win Mr. O
>Arnold is NOT competing in this one, has already won (a few times I think?) so he’s known and respected, is opinions are generally considered solid ones about the sport
>Arnold meets with the judges just before it starts
>YAAAAA I DONT THINK MENTZER SHUD WEEN HAHAHA I JUST DONT WANT HIM TO WIN HES NOT WINNING BECAUSE I SAID SO YA HAHAHA HE CANT WEEN HE SHOULDNT WEEN
>had literally nothing to gain from doing this, did it anyways, there wasn’t even a personal beef between the two before this or anything. He just did it to do it.
The dudes a fricking psychopath. He robbed Mentzer of the win without even competing.
Sauce on this? I've never heard anyone say that Arnold personally had anything to do with how that Olympia went down. He was just given a special invited and the judges were biased in his favor. Not his fault personally.
Mentzer wouldn't be first anyway
When I look back at those pictures, I always come to the same conclusion:.
There were three guys who could have won the show: Arnold, Mike Mentzer, and Roy Callender
I personally think Roy Callender deserved the win more than Mike. Ultimately, you can make the case for any of those three winning. Arnold was noticeably bigger and more impressive than anyone else on stage, so that's why I guess he got the win if you assume it wasn't rigged. I don't look at the results and see robbery of any sort no matter how hard I look. Arnold wasn't undeserving of the win.
He was a shitty dude on the stage too. Arnold was a fat piece of shit.
>always does that moronic lean and rotation to his right to hide his square waist
>dogshit abs
>dogshit legs
>tiny delts
>tiny traps
Glorified curlbro.
you cant deny that arnold had the best chest ever.
post your legs bro
Mental illness
his face isn't destroyed like most of them
Of these three Arnold looks the best. Does anyone really want to look like a modern Olympia champ anyway? They're like deformed clumps of muscle.
those lats
Dorian chads rise up
All you Dorian enjoyers should be Cbum fans because he has the same britbong muscle insertions. 1:1 massive lats, shit biceps, width, long torso, lumpy quads. Chris is weight capped though, he would've been dangerous in the open during Dorian's time. Chris has that early 90s classic look.
Source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-S66AZwBI
>peak aesthetic
Mass monsters destroyed body building.
The only thing that really seems off aesthetically about Zane there is the triceps bulge in the back. Following the line of the shoulders down makes thing the triceps should be smaller.
They should really be in their own category.
lol average varbie at a crossfit gym in anytown, usa is bigger than this little israelite. he actually had a real job and never prostituted himself like arnold though, so i'll give him that.
Prove he's a israelite
>nooo they are roiding TOO MUCH
Yes
Sam sylek or whatever his name is
Philosophically, Dorian.
Watching train, Dorian or Ronnie.
Favorite physique, Phil Heath.
Philosophically, Dorian or tom platz
Watching train, platz or ronnie
Favorite physique, anyone from the silver era
I gotta go with Lee Haney on this one. He dominated at a really competitive time in bodybuilding history but never blew up and turned into a mass monster. He brought the aesthetics every time and made bodybuilding look like a respectable sport. He isn't associated with any controversies and was never gifted any wins he didn't deserve. He's also a class act and represents bodybuilding exactly how it should be represented. He also retired at a young age and stayed healthy.
Ronnie when he was still natty
he wasnt natty here u absolute moron
>he wasnt natty here u absolute moron
Ahem,
Ronnie was natural in 1992, which was the year of his first Mr Olympia in which he placed dead last. He gained more than 70lbs of lean hard muscle tissue over the following several years after starting steroids post 1992 in order to win the coveted Mr Olympia for the first time in 1998 and dominate like no other before him, winning 8 consecutive Mr Olympia titles from 1998 to 2005.
He states here in this interview in 1992 before the 1992 Mr Olympia that he was natural:
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In 1991 he had similar FFMI to the top pre-steroid era bodybuilders (see pic related). Except that Ronnie had better genetics, muscle shape, insertions, small joints, muscle separation, small waist etc. which made him look more impressive at similar sizes. And overall better genetics for gaining muscle naturally, probably one of the best ever known. His top 99.999% genetic ability to gain muscle naturally is what allowed him to be superior to every other pro bodybuilder once he started taking the same drugs they did after he competed natural at the 1992 Mr Olympia. He surpassed them all easily within the space of 5 years, and dominated the Mr Olympia for 8 years to become the best bodybuilder in the history of mankind.
This is freak outlier genetics. Once in a lifetime. Most other bodybuilders once they reach the Olympia stage are already maxed out and don't really change all that much from year to year. Whereas Ronnie piled on at least 70 more pounds of lean tissue AFTER his first Olympia in 1992 where he competed naturally. This is unheard of at the Olympia level, and indicated subsequent commencement of muscle building steroids and growth hormones after the 1992 Mr Olympia in which he was a natural athlete.
Just a reminder that Ronnie got to the Mr Olympia stage in 1992 naturally. Cope and seethe everybody.
>Ronnie was natural in 1992
This.
Here he is on steroids and gh several years later, big big difference.
He was popping dianabol and anavar and shit like every strength athlete on earth in the 1980's. Then he learned the secrets of what bodybuilders really take and that's when he became a monster. He was not natty for shit.
> Ronnie
> 5'11"
He's a hell of a lot shorter than that, prolly 5'5" - 5'6"
You also have to be pretty damn stupid to think any of these guys is natty
And hit the wall hard
Candle burning from both ends or a star twice as bright yada yada
Roids were available in the 30s lol you dumb homosexual.
Testosterone was invented in the mid 1930s but wasn't available to people.
Orals were out in early 30s
Oral Dhts and proviron etc were 1930.
They weren't available to people and DHT doesn't build muscle.
Yes they were and yes they do lol dht derived steroids are amazing and have higher binding affinity to the ar receptor than test. There was oral methyltest and other stuff around aswell. You are just some dumb homosexual who believes liar fraud bodybuilders lmao
dht derived steroids didn't exist until the late 1950s and 60s
They started being released 1930 so where around 1920s even earlier.
No, testosterone was first synthesized in the mid 1930s, and all that existed from that point was testosterone base, propionate and methyltestosterone until the mid to late 1950s when dianabol and other synthetic testosterone modified compounds that are popular today were developed.
The first official documented testing of testosterone in US athletes was in the early to mid 1950, with further testing in the late 1950s when dianabol was invented. This is when the roided bodybuilder era started, from 1960 onwards.
Yeah youre wrong lol. Actual drug testing wasnt even serious until the 90s you moron.
I'm not talking about drug testing, I didn't mention that. I said that coaches were doing trial runs of testosterone on their olympic weightlifter athletes to see if it improves their strength. John Grimek was one of the first guys who tested testosterone and said it didn't work for him. They didn't know how to dose testosterone properly. This was in the early to mid 1950s.
Proviron was released to public sale 1930 by schering lol. They had it atleast one to two decades before that.
>Proviron was released to public sale 1930 by schering lol.
Where are you getting your incorrect information from?
>Proviron represents one of the oldest anabolic androgenic steroids on the market. A product of the giant pharmaceutical company Schering, it would first appear in 1934. Officially known as Mesterolone, it has appeared under numerous brand names over the years, but the Proviron name has continually remained dominant. It has also remained one of the most misunderstood anabolic steroids among steroid users
If its released for public in 30s that means they had it 10 to 20 years prior and run clinical trials before releasing to market you fricking moron.
represents one of the oldest anabolic androgenic steroids on the market. A product of the giant pharmaceutical company Schering, it would first appear in 1934. Officially known as Mesterolone, it has appeared under numerous brand names over the years, but the Proviron name has continually remained dominant. It has also remained one of the most misunderstood anabolic steroids among steroid users
This is rubbish. Incorrect information. It was first released to market in 1967 after being first developed in 1966.
Im calling your source garbage over mine. Whats even funnier is you seem to think peds are only aas lmao when theres multiple groups of drug classes that are PEDs.
>its released for public in 30s that means they had it 10 to 20 years prior and run clinical trials before releasing to market you fricking moron.
LMFAO
They had all types of stuff early 1900, agmatine was invented 1910.
Yeah because every trial done in the 30s is uploaded on the le net lmao.
The trials on testosterone in the 1930s where documented and have been uploaded to the net. No anabolic steroids existed before the 1930s, that's why there is no data on them.
Anyway, you are either trolling, or are some dumb zoomer.
I'm not wasting any more of my time on midwits.
Why are you just focusing on aas? Do you not understand what PEDs can also be? For example even a stimulant will jack up for hormone production vs natty, youd be enhanced. Same as taking chemical aminos, youd be enhanced vs natty. Thats not even getting into the other drug groups that PEDS fall into. People were 100% enhanced from 1930s.
not DHT based, just DHT (stanolone), which is inactivated in the muscle tissue by an enzyme and converted to very weak hormones
DHT increases your ability to lift heavy and will give you separation like masteron by sucking out the subcutaneous water, but as a muscle builder it's worthless
all they had in those days was testosterone, which wasn't being used for athletes until the 50s, and then methyltestosterone which sucks ass, the start of the PED era was when Dbol was invented and they started giving test prop to athletes
Ahem, no.
No dude. He was natural when he first started competing in 1990. You can go look at pictures and video from that time. When it came time to compete in more serious shows like NPC qualifiers and Nationals, he started taking PED's to look better on stage. He didn't immediately blow up in size, but you can tell that his muscles had a fullness and dryness that wasn't there before. It's an obvious sign of PED usage.
1990 vs 1992 is not a huge difference when we talk about what he was doing like 30 years ago. He probably just forgot exactly at what point he started or he likes to fudge the numbers to make it sound more impressive, but it is pretty obvious that he started taking gear around 1990/1991.
Yes, he has really good genetics, but human beings don't produce Winstrol naturally.
You wrote all that shit for what reason? You Ronnie’s boyfriend or something? The frick is wrong with you you must look like absolute shit and have no idea where great natural genetics can actually take you to think he’s natural there. Fricking moron
Ronnie here, he’s my ex boyfriend and I pay him to keep my charade alive to disguise the fact I roided harder than anyone on stage heheh. The proof is in the pudding I roided myself into a wheelchair heh yeah buddy it sucks
>100% natty
>mogs the entirety of the Golden Era
Just built different
this has gotta be the most perfectly sculpted physique i've ever seen, it looks too good for bodybuilding, he looks like a baki character, he looks like he could break every world record in every sport on the planet
What the frick is going on with his feet
The man weighted 90kg and was below 10% body fat.
He then started taking roids and went to 136kg. At below 5% body fat.
Can you even comprehend how insane that is?
This kind of specimen shows up once every 1 billion humans. Possibly even rarer, since the chances of another going the body-building route is negligible.
Undisputed #1 for me, followed by Cutler and Platz. Greene, Yates, BlackBlack person, Heath, Oliva and Priest are also great.
He was 90kg and taking shit like anavar/deca/Dianabol/primo that was typical of strength athletes in the 70's and 80's. He blew up to become a mass monster when he went on the Frankenstein regimen of megadoses of test, tren, Anadrol, insulin, etc.
The guy competed as a powerlifter in high school and work as a cop. He didn't not know what fricking steroids were. He just wasn't versed on the new protocols that became the norm in the 90's.
>He was 90kg and taking shit like anavar/deca/Dianabol/primo that was typical of strength athletes in the 70's and 80's. He blew up to become a mass monster when he went on the Frankenstein regimen of megadoses of test, tren, Anadrol, insulin, etc.
That's not how steroids work. You make most of your gains in your first few cycles, then it slows down. Just like with natty training.
Ronnie outlined his cycle in an anonymous video in the late 90s. He took about 2 grams plus small amounts of gh and insulin. No mention of tren or anadrol. Just test, deca, primo and dianabol for bulking.
Kevin Levrone took 1700 mg to get on the olympia stage with no insulin or gh at all. 600 test 400 deca and 700 anadrol. The the last 2 weeks drop everything and just run winstrol and halotestin for hardening.
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2 grams is the sweet spot for steroids, diminishing returns kick in hardcore above this level. The body just can't process that amount of ligand.
The late 90's was after he blew up. He won the Olympia in 1998.
You don't blow up popping a few Anavar
And 2 grams of gear is a frick ton of gear. That's already enough to saturate every androgen receptor in the body.
LOL thousands of guys do that, its called taking steroids for years lol
Not trying to argue if he was natty or not but you cant deny that ronnie hit the genetic lottery with his giga homie genetic
>This kind of specimen shows up once every 1 billion humans.
The way Americans talk about blacks is weird as hell.
Not American. I am black.
We know
Ronnie was not natty at any point during his bodybuilding career. Pull your head out of your ass.
It's genetics. You can find people working manual labor jobs all over the world living off potatoes, rice, or bread just shredded. How? Genetics. Take one of those guys add 6 to 8 meals a day of chicken breasts. Add a vigorous 6 day split at Golds gym and a dash of cardio for a few YEARS. Picture what you think you'd get. Remember he was getting in last place up until Flex Wheeler taught him how to take gear then he kinda just "came out of nowhere" and began dominating. Look it up.
>You can find people working manual labor jobs all over the world living off potatoes, rice, or bread just shredded
no you can't, moron
Yeah he obviously has good genetics. That doesn't mean be was natty.
True, knew a 15 year old kid who had huge arms and was extremely lean only playing football, and ate mostly chocolate
Big Ron
Ronnie stayed natty his entire career.
Ronnie is one of the few people who unironically trained too hard.
it's because he was originally a powerlifter
How can anyone, without mental illness, look at this shit and think it looks good?
define looking good
>ackshually
You are a Black person
steroids and liars have absolutely mindraped people
It doesn't look "good" it looks "best in the planet"
on that shit that makes ur head grow
Has you seen samsons hgh noggin? His head is a balloon lol
Jay Cookie Cutter Cutler
Derek.
>aesthetic but freaky mass monster
>round but peeled
>incredible work ethic
>humble but assertive
>believes in Christ unironically
>qt waifu
>has hair
>white
cute waifu? where? that ugly freak on the left? please god this cant be u golems standards i mean come on shes a 2/10
I fricking hate ramboner so much. Can none of the moronic bodybuilders figure out how to take drugs on their own? Even Bumstead pays this piece of shit.
You need an expert to guide you through the process of peaking for a show if you want to come at your best. Yeah, you can do it by yourself if you know everything about the process, but it will always be better to have another set of eyes looking at you objectively and telling you exactly what to do.
Easy - 1980 Mr. Olympia Mike Mentzer
Idk about my fav but least favorite for sure is ronnie.
>weird as frick looking abs
>weird looking calves
>nipples melted off chest and or weird looking
>overall alien looking, completely unaesthetic
>hideous face to top it all off
>Dumbass voice
I legitimately find his physique respulsive, not even joking
So does Arnold, he's talked about it without naming names.
He thinks that Ronnie ruined the sport
How did Ronnie ruin it and not the judges/jury?
I think it's kinda human to blame the guy that was the poster child of getting insanely huge, but yea doesn't make that much sense.
Arnold destroyed it, he was actually one of the first mass monsters. Pre Arnold it was all aesthetic dudes with perfect physiques. Zane was the GOAT, pre Arnold was the golden era. Post Arnold was the mass monster juice box era.
Ronnie completed bodybuilding's transition into becoming about satisfying the fetish of creepy old gay men who lust after musclebound freaks
it pisses me off that I have these lat inserts.
Agreed. He was hideous. Jay was miles more pleasing to look at.
Also HUGE glutes and ventroglute and huge belly when relaxed. Ronnie looked like garbage.
Dorian was the one who started the mass monster era
Bodybuilding is a joke. I would have given Tom Platz the title every year of his career.
THIS is the perfect body
No he lacks width on the upper body, just longer clavicle and with that more shoulder width to balance his massive legs out.
do you realize how mindfricked you are to consider this a perfect body?
Looks like a wax figure
His legs are like those Metal Gear cyborgs
Sergio had some amazing genetics for this sport.
On the type of gear that they were running back then, these kind of Baki proportions is silly gross; all of that without any destruction to his face and gut due to bloat.
Sergio Oliva. Without a doubt.
Arnie when he wasnt in comp cut mode or frank zane. Mass monsters ruined the sport, moved it from being self-perfection through iron will to roidtroons with severe mental disabilities (yes I know arnie and the others roided too)
Dorian Yates because he's a chud
Has there ever or will there ever be a bodybuilder that could basically have the best everything? (biceps, chest, legs, etc)
>names the one good thing he did
>perfect
>metzner
pick one
>"frick your freedoms, don't go outside, listen to the government"
>good thing
Flex Wheeler came pretty close. Shawn Ray as well.
Uncrowned 2002 Mr. Olympia Gunter Schlierkamp of course.
They look like 2 skinny guys trying some muscle-suits on
Ronnie is getting hard mogged here. His frame looks tiny next to Gunter, even accounting for the height difference.
He was absolutely massive. Hard to fathom until you see him in his training videos.
Ronnie came in really small and off in 2002. Then in 2003 he came in the freakiest a bodybuilder has ever been on stage. He wanted to prove a point. And he did it. Nobody has come close to this dense and detailed muscularity since.
He didn't deserve it in 2002. Should've had to relinquish the crown. At least Gunter got his victory over Ronnie at the GNC Show of Strength.
Gotta be Franco for me, tends to get forgotten, I know he was short but he was one of the first that really shocked me with his physique
>Favorite roid troony
markus ruhl
if you're gonna do it, be a freak
Prime Phil Heath was the most complete bodybuilder from head to toe, muscle wise. All other Mr Olympias had glaring body part flaws by comparison.
If Phil had a wider shoulder bone structure it would be over for everyone beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Before Ronnie Coleman turned professional, he:
Competed in powerlifting since he was in high school
Played other sports in high school
Played college football
Worked as a cop
Trained at a hardcore bodybuilding
To suggest that someone with this background wouldn't know what steroids are and dabble in them to get better results is absolutely preposterous. Ronnie Coleman wasn't some farm boy from bumfrick Egypt who was naturally big and strong from doing farm work. He was involved with the scene on some level since he was basically a kid.
Yes, he was incredibly gifted and talented, but get the frick outta here if you think he was natty until someone told him what steroids were.
Part of professional fitness is lying, and its so that everyone else never gets bigger or stronger than you. Arnold told everyone to drink beer instead of milk, for example.
>Part of professional
>is lying
fixed that
>Yes, he was incredibly gifted and talented, but get the frick outta here if you think he was natty until someone told him what steroids were.
Ronnie was so elite genetically that he could build an amazing physique naturally and have no need to juice, just rely on his freak genetics. He only capitulated on his natty status when he realized that his natural genetics could only get him so far and he would have to actually roid to get anywhere and be competitive in the big leagues. Then he started roiding after his first couple of Mr Olympia dissapointments and exploded in size.
Ronnie only did powerlifting comps between 1991 and 1994
https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/ronniecoleman
Before 1989 Ronnie only trained causally and haphazardly. His first proper bodybuilding gym was metroflex gym which the owner gave him a free gym membership in exchange for making him train for and enter a bodybuilding competition, because the owner saw his potential. He had to be convinced, almost bribed to train as a bodybuilder.
>https://www.openpowerlifting.org/u/ronniecoleman
That weight jump from 93 to 94. 15kg gain. It is said that around 93 is when Ronnie started roiding.
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Look at 1990 vs 1991
It's pretty obvious to me that it was around this time that he either started taking gear or taking a serious amount of gear to compete in bodybuilding. The transformation is radical.
It also happens to be the same time he got serious about bodybuilding.
Yeah no shit man, the Ronnie Coleman was natty in '92 poster is a big moron, Nobody has 19 inch arms and reps 4 plate lean
I do.
>p-post body
no
Here's an example of some who was small and unimpressive naturally and turned into a freakazoid when he went full enhanced. Somewhere along the way he was big and impressive and enhanced but not anywhere near his final form. That was Ronnie in 1992. He wasn't natty for shit, but he still had a lot of growing to do. It's not always an off and on thing.
Bad example, Nick Walker over-dieted for his first show because he didn't know what he was doing. He went from 220+ down to 160 or something like that crash dieting natty. Lost a lot of muscle. He was always naturally huge as a teenager. Pic of him at 17 before he did his first comp.
>Didn't know what he was doing
>Somehow gets to 18 inch arms naturally
uh huh
For me it's Francis Benfatto. Insanely underrated imo, imagine the path bodybuilding would have taken had he won a Mr. Olympia.
Anyone who cares about mister olympia is a homosexual.
Gotta love the king but Im glad physiques have gotten less freaky recently guys like Dorian Ronnie and Jay were just too damn big
Frank zane,he is my gym role model
If you look at some of the photos of Ronnie's mom where she was a bit younger and healthy she had bigger arms than most of the posters here.
This is his mother, she probably 60 years old and doesn't work out.
Not Mr Olympia though he should have been, but imo the best physique in human history is Gunther Schlierkampf in 2002
%3D
Back sucks
DORIAN for the new path he pened and for having his eyes opened to many thinks, from Bodybuilding to the israeli Question.
Secondly Frank Zane for the Aesthetics.
>inb4 they're israelites
I don't give a shit
>from Bodybuilding to the israeli Question.
QRD on Yates and naming the israelite? Did he actually say something or is this some hot meme I missed
Holy shit, Dorian really is the GOAT. No wonder there's so many anti-HIT shills
hit guts never post body and when they do they are brown and dyel kek
He looked great in 1993 and turned to shit after that. All of his subsequent wins were gifted to him.
In 1994 they fricked over Shawn Ray, who had probably the most perfect physique ever to grace a bodybuilding stage, and gave it to Dorian, who had a torn bicep and a bubble gut.
In 1997 they fricked over Nasser and gave it to Dorian, who had a bubble gut, a torn bicep, AND a torn tricep.
The guy looked like dogshit for almost the entirety of his rein as Mr. Olympia.
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I didn't even notice the varicose veins
What a hideous looking human
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Shawn never won a single Olympia. He had the most proportioned physique there ever was in competitive bodybuilding. It was by conventional bodybuilding standards perfect.
It's a shame that the sport went in the direction it did. Dorian was the beginning of that.
Not sure why as bodybuilding was invented and marketed by israelites to sell to gay guys as gay porn was illegal.
tell me you're a redditor without tellimg me you are a redditor
Right. Your diet is shit. Your workout regimen is garbage. You lack discipline, patience, and knowledge. And now you've come on here and projected your own perceived limitations on another because you don't have what it takes to reach your own potential.
Pfffftt... Pathetic.
didn't read anything you wrote homosexual now frick off back to r/incels
Gay
what's wrong with liking xy anus?
Frank Zane, his physique would be perfect if he were 3" taller
Blond haired Dorian looked cool
Gary Strydom
Dude had Phil heath like arms without gh gut and bloated look
The 80’s bodybuilders looked better imo, as soon as they started doing gh, insulin it became over for the sport
Gary was never Mr. Olympia tho he did have an impressive front
Just my two cents, considering everyone is majority posting 90's-00's Mr. Olympias:
>Samir Bannout-'83
>Larry Scott-'65
>Sergio Olivia-'67
Uncrowned:
>Dennis Tinerino
>Lee Labrada
>Danny Padilla
>If you want to talk about 2000 era best physique in human history, i give you... THE RUHLER (picrel)
Here are some still camera shots of the same competition, not as impressive as the distorted video. Everyone looked freaky in that video.
>muh steroids
>muh golden era
Can't have a conversation about bodybuilding without DYEL normies sharing their stale moronic opinions.
you realize normal people are who decide this stuff right? don't expect fame without judgement from normies, if you do mr olympia stuff don't pretend like you don't seek their validation too
probably ronnie coleman. but he isnt my favorite bodybuilder of all time, that probably has to go to john meadows or lee priest. if we are talking strictly physique i have other favorites, but those guys just have great personalities. RIP mountain dog.
obviously my favorite physique has to be paul dillett, the original
>ULTRA
>GIGA
>homie
>ONLY TRIPS CAN DAMAGE HIM
>QUADS BANISH HIM FOREVER
paul dillett had a fricking insane physique and i have no idea how he never won the big O title