24yo here, want to give a small, “low risk” cycle a shot, just to test the waters and to lean out my frame a bit. Current stats 215 BW, looking to be maybe 195-200. Naturally lifted for 7 years, have good physical base. I will not be getting bloodwork, unless convinced it is an absolute necessity.
Protocol, 8 weeks:
Ostarine 10mg
Cardarine 10mg
PCT: I have an AI/liver support/test booster OTC called “PCT Assault”. I will take this regardless of how I feel end cycle. Also on hand I will have nolva. PCT in either fashion should be 4 weeks long.
Will ostarine at this level sufficiently keep the muscle on my body as I cut weight? Paired with cardarine, I’m excepting to have a boost in my cardio abilities and jot lose the muscle I currently have while cutting. Is 10mg of ostarine not enough? Any other advice on this, something I’m potentially missing? Thanks. Pic is the OTC PCT label.
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Current lifts
DL: 535
Squat: 455
Bench: 285
Would be nice to have a 315 bench at the end of this cycle, but I think that’s mostly wishful thinking. Cardarine is so my cardio goes easier, and perhaps help with fat metabolization.
> Squat: 455
> Bw 215
lol roiding for strength, when you’re well below your natty limit. Do you want to compete in powerlifting or something? Enjoy being a fraud who’s going to be beaten by nattys.
I’m roiding to keep my squat the way it is and lean down. I’m not a competitive lifter really, I mostly just do it for fun. I’m a bit of a chubster at the moment and want to lean out, but every cut I do I end up wasting away and just looking flat/stringy, thought this could mitigate that.
Lol idiot is doing research chemicals instead of pinning like real men
Don’t want to pin, already have the ostarine on hand. Considered Anavar because it’s an oral. Went into the supplement shop by me to get GW and he put the MK on the table and I bought both. Not entirely sold I’ll even take the ostarine yet— his recommendation was 20mg of each for 8 weeks, but I’m more cautious and will start at 10 each. Took first dose of the cardarine but haven’t dosed the ostarine yet
Shutting down his natural testosterone production for literally zero gains what a dumbfrick
4 different anons already told you not to do it but you double down
enjoy your cancer+ no gains at 24
Ngmi. Rip your liver
dont do sarms Black person just do 500 test for 12/16 weks
>cardarine
I hope you don’t get cancer
>ostarine+cardarine+vitamin pct
No gains. Scared of needles? You need to lurk more.
I expect nothing less from a 24yo zoomer
Cancer risk is overblown I think— the mice to human equivalent dose was 40-50mg, and they gave it to mice that are already predisposed to cancer for 2/3rds of their life
I read the study and it sounds extremely carcinogenic. It’s not worth the risk for endurance gains. If trying to lose weight, lower calories.
From what I’ve heard anything OTC is pretty much useless. I’d be careful, bro
Well this PCT has Arimistane, and I’m hoping I could get away with just that. I do have taximofen also (nolvadex) in case it’s not enough. 10mg is supposedly not very suppressive though, and ostarine is the weakest out of the sarms and 2nd most widely tested only behind LGD
Nolvadex is a proper pct
OP is a homosexual
>he actually believes the gas station pills will work
Lmao
So I’m here for this feedback and I’m getting just straight up test is better— but why? Could some1 explain why the ostarine at 10mgs is more dangerous than pinning test? Everything I’ve read (until coming here) says that ostarine is hardly suppressive at the dose I was planning on running. I don’t trust online SARM websites or YouTube gays because they all have affiliate links and are motivated to sell the shit. Test also seems harder to source, I just walked into a supplement shop by me and bought these. Brand is “revitasarm” on both the gw and mk
Literally kys
If you’re looking for a STEROID, you’ll have to find a SOURCE that will TALK about it.
Because test has about 70+ years of research on it, all effects positive and negative are known and well documented.
SARMs came out of nowhere, is typically developed in Chinese labs who do not give a frick about your health/ safety and there is zero long term studies on the potential side effects.
On top of all that bullshit you will be shutting down your natural test production for very very little gain, if your convinced on turning your natty card in might as well just pin test. Good results and somewhat safe if you do it right.
Goodluck you zoomer Black person.
But the guys who make steroids all love their customers and are not made in china right?
I won’t be “shutting down” my natural T just suppressing it also, the same thing would happen on a T cycle. So what’s the loss, that I might not get as big on sarms but am potentially running similar risks? I told the covid jab both times and the booster and that was experimental bullshit from china too. I agree SARMS have less data, but ostarine anecdotally has mild effects and risks, and out of the SARMs has been tested at several phases up to doses of 100mg. I’m not posting to cope here, I want someone to deboonk me; I was genuine saying I come here 4 feedback on thus
You moron most reputable UGL's you will be buying from are made in the US.
On top of that test is EXTREMELY easy and cheap to make and it is never faked for that reason you are almost always getting near pharma grade.
Frick it would be easy enough to home brew it so you know what you're getting. Plenty of people do that.
And thinking it will only "suppress" your natural T is the best case scenario, plenty of people get full endogenous shutdown from SARMs.
Just pin test at a reasonable dose.
Why would he want to take test just to lose fat while holding muscle.
Ostarine would be far better than test for this.
Test is full of side effects like balding and gyno and total hormonal shutdown. Not worth it just to lose some fat while while maintaining muscle.
Most bodybuilders in the 60s thru 80s didn't even use test, they considered it primitive and harsh. There were no finasteride or AI's back then so testosterone was seen as side effects in a bottle. Only bodybuilders who could tolerate testosterone would use it. Why do you think they didn't go bald like today?
Yeah but from more serious sarms like rad, LGD, s23 etc. ostarine is mild, supposedly from anecdotal accounts (I’ve watched every YouTube video and have seen every Reddit thread.) I said before, but I don’t trust any of those sources wholly, which is why I came here. They’re paid shills in many cases, especially all of the articles written i.e “outlook india” “sarmguide” etc. figured I’d get real responses here, even if just calling me a homosexual they’re real opinions.
625lbs wagon wheel behind the back
Just take test stay the frick away from SARMs you homosexual.
Cardarines pretty based tho.
anavar is the easiest
Yeah this was actually my first pick, but when I went to buy the card he had MK on hand— saved me the trouble of having to buy some shit with bitcoin and worry about it getting snagged in mail