First pic is one year into lifting and second pic is two (almost).

First pic is one year into lifting and second pic is two (almost). I feel like I've barely made progress in 10 months.
Is this really how natty lifting is? When will I be a 200 lb jacked dude?
Steroids are out of the question.

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    10 months later

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      shoulder and chest look better but yeah for 10 months seems a bit weak.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Literally just eat more. Only reason you're mad at the way you look now is because you probably weigh no more than 180lbs of lean muscle at best.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      These are literally just before and after the haircut. Also long hair was better

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      you fell for the powerlifting/strength meme, didn't you?

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Read the thread im weak af

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    we have a progress thread already up

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    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah and I already posted my back there.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Sonuva bitch I just want some advice

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Alright man, chill.
      >are you training with enough volume and intensity?
      >what are your strenght numbers?
      >is your routine strength or hypetrophy focused?
      >is your diet and rest optimised?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        My diet is 90% organic with a focus on meat and dairy with fresh fruits and veggies. Not eating as much as I want because I'm a wagie. My routine (

        lol please dont feed into OP's delusions. the progress is disappointing and barely noticeable. Post routine OP. You training close to failure every day?

        ) is doing one set of each everyday unless I'm too beaten up: hack squats x8 @ 225 lb (my quads are already huge from cycling), then pullovers ×12 @ 80lbs (will increase weight after i get a tricep bar) then t rows to failure at 180 lbs (15-18 reps currently; once i get to 20 i increase by 10 lbs) then French press to failure (9-12 reps) @80 lbs, then calf raises to failure (15-20) @ 250 lbs, then reverse grip floor press @ 170 lbs to failure (5-8) then reverse curls ×20 @120 lbs and then I finish with a standing press to failure (5-8) @ 110 lbs.

        OP's "delusion" is that he has barely made any progress. You're a moron.

        Thank you for encouragement

        You are being too self critical. Your shoulders, biceps, forearms, triceps are all noticeably different and you look leaner. Your "problem" isn't really a problem but you could eat a little bit more and see more muscle gain but then you will have to cut some fat after.
        You want to look bigger faster? You need to focus traps and side delts. That will give you that bigger topside making your v taper more pronounced.

        Keep it up brah, we're all gonna make it.

        And thank you too. My shoulders are fucked from slap tears and such, can't do lat raises or normal bench, what's your recommendation for lateral delts in that case?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          > is doing one set of each everyday
          >going to failure
          >EVERY DAY
          There's your problem dude. Your muscle has surpassed your ability to recover in such a short time period. Simply take every exercise you do to failure and stop exercising every fucking day. You need to recover. I know you said you were on roids at one point. If you are on them right now, just exercise every other day or every 2 days. If you aren't, then add even more time between sessions. If you're bot getting bigger or stronger then just keep adding more rest days until you do get bigger and stronger. All of that lifting is completely useless if you don't allow your muscles to recover and then supercompensate

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao no roids ever. I do cycling as in bicycling. I bike to work a lot as it saves on gas.
            But yeah I'll try to put more recovery days in. Doing one set of each exercise keeps me consistent though.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Doing one set of each exercise keeps me consistent though.
              Doing one set gives you literally the exact same gains as doing multiple sets, so long as you take those sets to failure. You'll save a shitload of time by just doing one set. You're effectively doing High Intensity training right now except for the resting part. You're going to blow up when you start including rest days

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'll try that out. I'm glad I can keep doing one set of each exercise because I hate getting doms in just one area as i with manual labor. Thanks for the advice! I hope you're right about me blowing up lol

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This is false. He's already doing only one set which is likely one of the reasons why he is making zero progress. You need to do multiple sets

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          this is stupidly low weight/high rep. Just do 5 with weight so heavy that you almost fail on number 5. Also,
          >everyday unless I'm too beaten up
          get on an actual schedule. i bet you are "feeling too beaten up" more often than you think.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Dang I like doing high rep because i have a lot of injuries like herniated discs, a torn meniscus and an aforementioned slap tear. I usually workout 5-7 days straight with one recovery day but I'll add more recovery days between training days as per the advice in the thread.

            This is false. He's already doing only one set which is likely one of the reasons why he is making zero progress. You need to do multiple sets

            Why is doing one set less good if I'm doing one set of every exercise in my repertoire as opposed to three sets of specific exercises spaced out between 3 or 4 days?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You're not doing nearly enough volume. Academic studies show 15-30 weekly sets per muscle group is optimal. You're doing half that.

              Follow an actual program written by someone with more than 1/2 a brain.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Studies are easy to cook, I prefer experiments. They're easier to read, as well. According to my math I'm currently doing 20 sets for back, 15 sets for chest, and idk how I'd calculate the number of sets for arms (don't care about legs that much because biking).
                Yeah I guess I'll have to swallow my pride or whatever and follow a routine not written by a dumbass at some point. This routine is just so fun.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This post makes me lose hope for you.

                Keep doing dumb shit and deluding yourself. I'll listen to the multiple PHDs and professional coaches with the massive supporting evidence of athletes they train.

                Stay small brainlet.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but post body, soiboi

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              you won't tire out your muscles with just one set.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Your routine is dogshit. Consider something less retarded. Also eat more gay.

          It took you an entire year of mediocre gains to consider you might be doing something wrong. You're either stupid or don't care enough

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I am pretty stupid, to be honest. What's retarded about it? The reps and sets or the exercises or both?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Reps, sets, exercises. Look up a real routine it's not fucking hard. Go follow a real PPL

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Where the fuck did you come up with this routine? Just find a proper PPL.
          You're also not eating enough, given that you didn't get fatter nor gained any muscle.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I made it up based on what felt good.

            Literally just eat more. Only reason you're mad at the way you look now is because you probably weigh no more than 180lbs of lean muscle at best.

            Food costs money though. What's a cheap way to bulk up? I hear a lot about oats.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Eggs, egg whites, ground beef, rice, dried beans, potatoes. Easy.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >What's a cheap way to bulk up?
              Gorilla chow.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Food costs money though. What's a cheap way to bulk up? I hear a lot about oats.
              I am doing buttermilk powder and oatmeal. It costs me $3.8 per day over my normal maintenance food costs

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >oatmeal
                *olive oil
                oatmeal is too filling

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >My diet is 90% organic
          Mostly bullshit to make you spend more. If you really care about muh pesticooods, just buy regular food and avoid the "dirty dozen". Eat more milk and eggs for proteins, if you want to spend more on food, fish is a better money sink than "organic food"

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >I go to failure every day
          No, you dont

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            I do reps until I can't move the weight anymore, gay.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You are being too self critical. Your shoulders, biceps, forearms, triceps are all noticeably different and you look leaner. Your "problem" isn't really a problem but you could eat a little bit more and see more muscle gain but then you will have to cut some fat after.
    You want to look bigger faster? You need to focus traps and side delts. That will give you that bigger topside making your v taper more pronounced.

    Keep it up brah, we're all gonna make it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      lol please dont feed into OP's delusions. the progress is disappointing and barely noticeable. Post routine OP. You training close to failure every day?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        OP's "delusion" is that he has barely made any progress. You're a moron.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Post legs and height.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >natties following a roidchud brosplit
    >ending up with shit progress

    Many such cases.

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