Fixing powerlifting

Replace squat and bench with a push press. Remove sumo. The total is now deadlift + push press.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get rid of it. Put it in the trash.
    Weightlifting already is powerlifting but good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      weightlifting is a lower body only sport. you don't need any upper body strength to do a jerk

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Conventional deadlift + push press + strict curl
    Boom, powerlifters are now aesthetic and functional

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      strict curl is interesting but i would rather do some row variation like a max pullup. i don't like isolatinos as a test of strength

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Problem is weighted pullups include bodyweight, but I agree they would be a good movement to test overall pulling strength. From competition point of view (and that powerlifting is still about moving pieces of metal), a deadlift + push press + strict curl would be easiest to judge:
        >conventional: regular ruleset
        >push press: no double dipping / jerks allowed, anything else is fine. Or we scratch that and just consider weight moved, so jerks are also allowed
        >strict curl: ass and back against the wall, both need to touch it during the whole movement

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          problem with jerks is it turns it into a lower body lift predominantly. it's supposed to be an upper body event and the point of the push is to overload the triceps at the top because strict ohp is not very taxing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then I think the double dip ruleset is nice enough. I'm aware jerks can pretty much be all lower body if technique is good enough

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              is it possible to jerk without double dipping?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, what I meant with that is "no double dipping, i.e. no jerks allowed"
                Basically judge it like the viking press at WSM 2017

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          With that said, I think weighted pullup would also be a great placeholder for a biceps movement, if we design it such that
          >absolute weight pulled matters. I.e. 100kg man + 60 kg added = 160kg competition lift

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes weighted pullup would also impose a limit on bloat maxxers, if you can't do a single pullup you're disqualified but i also like to keep it minimal similar to oly lifting with a deadlift and a press

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure, but deadlift and press leaves out biceps. The soijack in the OP looks like that because he not only neglects his triceps (prolly shit bench) but also completely skips biceps training

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you will always have some muscles neglected with a limited selection of events, for that strongman is superior. at least if you're unbalanced you will still look good because over head and deadlift will build up your silhuette regardless creating that big yoke look around your neck

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                biceps can indirectly help your overhead press so it's not really left out. if you train to maximise the overhead you will find that big lats and biceps improve the rack position a ton

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post push press + deadlift total.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      380kg currently

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        actually that is my strict press 100kg i haven't trained a push press

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Crossfit > Powerlifting > Gymbro > Strongman > Olympic Weightlifting

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've already fixed powerlifting in /plg/, and they all hate it while having no rebut.

    1. ALL supporting equipment is banned. Every lift must be raw. That means no elevated heels, no belt, no wraps, no straps, no sleeves, no suits, etc.
    2. Use whatever variant or extended arch you want. Literally lift the weight however the frick you want. You can literally fricking lowest of low bar shart if you want, you can sumo it. I don't fricking care. This obviously means squat compared to squat, and not a deadlift vs a clean and jerk, aspie.

    Determining winners:
    1. There are two winners for each sex, who share the gold. No weight classes, full stop.
    2. Whoever lifted the most total weight across three lifts for one rep wins absolute strength.
    3. Whoever lifted the most allometrically scaled weight for the three lifts wins relative strength

    Determining weight lifted:
    1. The weight lifted is the average work done along the straight line path of movement from lowest point to highest point
    2. These are found with sensitive video recordings that are analyzed either during meets or post meets, I don't fricking care

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was first disagreeing with you but then realized the last point makes the whole thing based. Yes, if you include the average work done then this will btfo sumogays, so I agree with you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's also btfos archgays and lowbargays

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, i didn't make the screen cap.

      Also post a total in excess of 1000 lbs with your rules.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you need a belt for safety reasons

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which universally applies to everyone. Unacceptable excuse—lower the weight or get injured winning. I don't care.

        strength genetics include leverages, you shouldn't punish someone for their genetics, as long as they're not some scoliosis midget doing sumo.

        Genetics influence all sports. You won't find 4'8" football players or basketball players. Michael Phelps has unique genetics that lets him win gold medals. Anyone who b***hes about genetics only does so because they lost before they could try.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          then make up your mind dyel homosexual, your ideas are moronic regardless if you do.
          also lmao
          >I don't care.
          as if you have any authority

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      strength genetics include leverages, you shouldn't punish someone for their genetics, as long as they're not some scoliosis midget doing sumo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't fricking care
      I'm imagining you spitting at your screen while you type.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the push presses would slow turn into pressed out powerjerks over time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      no double dip rule precludes it

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i want to go gundam mode too

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    post a webm of your lifts for verification. otherwise your rules mean nothing

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    troony

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP, change push press into the press anyhow. Oldschool. Barbell starts on the ground, and in whichever way you prefer you have to bring it overhead and keep it there for a sec or two. This way we might see people go overhead with massive weights. Fricking awesome. (Injuries are your own problem).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we already have that it's called olympic lifting

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, Olympic lifting is too restrictive. I mean, 0 rules as long as it goes overhead.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's not too restrictive everyone will naturally gravitate to the clean and jerk because it's the most efficient way to do it. strongmen can powerclean logs but a 30mm barbell with +200kg digging into your stomache will gut you it doesn't work like an axel bar or a log

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Push press it is then. I'm all for it. Like, I genuinely would care about powerlifting if your rules were implemented. Do consider the "press anyhow" though. Standing incline pressess are freaky.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              i assume the press anyhow means just means allow jerks. the event is supposed to be upper body, a jerk would turn it into a lower body movement, both powerlifters and weightlifters are pear shaped because their movements are lower body dominant this is what i want to fix

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    somehow leanbeefpatty's gotten even uglier

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