>had to get put under to remove my wisdom teeth >the girl was having so much trouble getting the needle into my skin, only after teaming up with another girl did they manage to get it in after 5-10 minutes struggling >they said wow you have such thick skin >t-thanks you to
Would 300-500mg of test prevent muscle loss (80%+ fat loss) from a 1.5k calorie deficit per day?
What about 300-500 test plus anavar?
tfw mogged by thick skin
why do you guys think there's so much discrepancy between what pussies on online forums and youtube preach versus what pros actually take? ie the 250 test is a good starting point or if you need more than 500 you're doing something wrong, etc. it almost comes off to me as delusional as when people say obvious roid physiques are natty achievable.
i don't think you need rich piana death cycle dosages or anything but i bet you'd be hard pressed to find a pro doing less than 1.5g/w plus hgh
The schizo in me thinks they are trying to sabotage other people's gains.
yea
might add an oral too. thoughts?
anavar maybe?
dont do dbol imo, harder to manage estrogen and you will bloat a lot
It depends on your goals, if you’re huge then you will need to blast while cutting to maintain your size. If you go well beyond your natty limit, and then you lower your calories and gear usage, you will lose size for sure.
If you just want to look muscular and lean at the beach then sure you can cut on a cruise dose
I hate these youtube trt homosexuals like MPMD so much. I was having low libido and according to all of them that's a sign of low e2, so I dropped the AI for a little bit hoping it would get better. All that did was make my low libido even worse. As soon as I started taking AI again and increased the frequency I take it at my libido came back and my dick is rock hard again. These homosexuals love to make everyone scared of AI and say you should keep your e2 high.
There is old protocols floating around that tell you to use high dosages and combine nolva and clomid and it just hasn't been updated. You can get away with lower dosages of nolva for pct. For AI on cycle use aromasin.
Can low E2 cause a loss of dick sensitivity?
I added proviron to my cruise because I like how it feels but now a day or 2 later my dick is sort of "numb"
Is there any level in which a person should confide with a doctor about steroids for any reason, other than drastic medical emergencies? I just want to be safe if I’m going to delve deep
No real reason to tell a doctor. If you're in the US you can order lab tests through ultalabs to monitor your estrogen and those kinds of things. The standard 500mg beginner test cycle is not very dangerous, nothing to really worry about other than keeping e2 in check with aromatase inhibitors. Can also take finasteride if worried about hair loss.
you should get a physical done and monitor your health. if you have a good (white male, reasonably fit) doctor, you should be honest with him about everything you take. You don't want to end up like Zyzz bc you didn't realize you had a heart condition and decided to blast.
You should also be honest with your lawyer. They can't help you if they don't know the whole picture
Id like to try some trt before i cave in to the SSRI israelite. What should i be pinning? Would 100 twice a week be enough? My test is about 220 rn and I believe it to be a major factor in my anxiety depression and lethargy
Yeah 200 would be a great start, it's basically just a high trt does where you'll have higher than peak natty levels but won't have to worry much about sides
I guess I could ask. The doctors seemed annoyed that I asked for my T levels checked in the first place. Then when it came back they told me this on the normal range even tho from everything ive read this is the super low end and abnormal for a 24yo male especially considering i have symptoms of ED (although i think thats more anxiety induced). I felt they were really trying to push the prozac. I was on prozac when i was a kid and i feel like it just made my life worse so im trying to avoid it if at all possible
And i know that this isn’t my personal blog but you guys are the only ones I can really talk to. Im considering a therapist as well but money is a bit tight. Not saying im smarter than doctors but I really want SSRIs to be the last resort. Worse case scenario i run done test and im no worse off and out much less cash than a therapist would cost
And i know that this isn’t my personal blog but you guys are the only ones I can really talk to. Im considering a therapist as well but money is a bit tight. Not saying im smarter than doctors but I really want SSRIs to be the last resort. Worse case scenario i run done test and im no worse off and out much less cash than a therapist would cost
Why can't you do both? You could have 2000ngdl test and because of your depression you could get aggressive and irritable. Suicidal even. Test doesn't magically fix mental health, but it makes going to the gym or working out way easier and better. Even more of a plus if you have a phsycial job. If you are actually depressed though you're just going to end up hormonal and unmotivated. You're not really gaining anything if youre unable to put the effort in to make the test do it's magic. My first blast I was trying self medicate and I became a psychopath, now I take mood stabilizers and can do gear as well and I don't treat people like shit and a psycho. It's all a balancing act.
I guess im just hoping the depression is a symptom of low t. Not just a concurrent problem. I don’t think such a low dose of T will make me a psychopath or cause noticeable sides. Am I incorrect in this?
Usually you're low t because of depression and Google searches about low t that show the top posts on reddit about how "t cured muh depreshun" is a confirmation bias. Also why are you against the "pharma israelite" but you're ok with putting hormones in your body which are made by underground chinese labs and pharmaceutical companies? If you don't like ssris there's tons of other medications that work better. I love test, but I'm tired of the meme that it's an anti depressant and fixes mental health issues. I guarantee you that you won't feel anything on a pussy dose of test, self medicating. Try a proper treatment protocol on top of it at least please.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ive tried prozac before and it wasn’t a good experience. It turned me off SSRIs. Im not ruling them out completely but like i said id like them to be the last option and not the first. I will try them if j need to
9 months ago
Anonymous
Don't take anything that doesn't make you feel the most like yourself tell the doc its time for a different med. SSRI and NDRI make me psychotic I get by on a low dose of lithium. Everybody is different. Just remember treating the symptom of low t is only going to patch up part of the issue. Don't be a channer schizo and take care of your brain.
200 test is horribly low. Like teenage girl low
your doctors full of shit. start pinning.
Pin test, at least a trt dose. try that for a few months. Dont go to a clinic, just buy it from internet strangers. keep a journal of how you feel, your sleep length and quality, diet and exercise.
If symptoms persist, add on Modafanil 200mg a day (with food) Ive been taking it since 2016. Only side effect was slight headache if I didnt take with food and mild insomnia if you take it after Noon.
Ssri are trash, the safest is wellbutrin but dont take with Modaf, it raise blood pressure
>200mg modaf a day
NTA, but homie what? i was taking 100mg a day when working nights for a couple months and I feel like that fried my brain for a while after. not a good idea. modafinil is best used sparingly, once a week tops for a day of graft. 200mg modafinil daily is gonna turn this anon into a schizo insomniac. not hating on modafinil, shit saved my A-levels and basically completed my degree for me.
Cope. Ive been taking it for yeara, ranging from 200mg to 800mg ED. Youre a little baby. Keeps you upright and human, willing to interact with normies. It also lets you drink more than normal.
It is possible but by no means definitive. But judging by the posts I assume are yours, you seem to know that. Id ignore the guy saying you’ll become psychotic at 200, that is INCREDIBLY unlikely at that dose. Just be careful and monitor yourself well. And keep an open mind about further treatments such as an SSRI
His test is very low. I think the typical range used goes up to 900. Hes at 200/900. If any other lab came back that low, it would require immeditae intervention (typically via a supplement.)
Theres literally no downside to supplementing his current test levels to natty trt levela, while there is significant downside to taking ssris.
Ok. All im saying is that the low T may not be the cause of the depression. Taking a small amount of T might improve things, but he shouldn’t get frustrated if that doesn’t work and ramp up the T to high doses. Its very possible he needs an SSRI or other treatments. Lethargy, depression, and lowered test could also be caused from sleep apnea for instance. We literally don’t know and he needs to be careful with self medication.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Theres literally nothing wrong with self medicating if you take proper steps and moniter your health. Also this thread is literally for taking higher than trt doses of test and other AAS.
Sleep apnea? Bro come on. Ill bet you 8 vials of test its not sleep apnea. Depressed dudes on this forum probably all suffer from a combination of low self esteem, limited physical exercise, limited social interactions, excessive tv/movie/screen time, poor diet and sleep habits, perhaps too much drug/alcohol use.
Trt or cycling test fixes two or three issues immediately, subsequently he'll also be more likely to eat right and sleep right and he'll be spending at least 1 hour less staring at a screen. His imrpoved physique had the chance of improving his self esteem and making him more willing to interact socially. Have the threads on this board are about guys doing just that and then posting about how they made it
>inb4 projection, its literally the most common issue on this forum
9 months ago
Anonymous
> Ill bet you 8 vials of test its not sleep apnea
You’re intentionally being obtuse at this point. That was just an example. It could be any number of things. The point is we have no idea whats wrong with depressed anon. Even if we were all ivy league educated physicians were going off two paragraphs on a Hyrulean rock skipping forum. Thats not enough to diagnose shit. Theres very little risk involved in low test doses but he should still be in contact with a professional regardless, and keep in mind the fact that trt might not help at all
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but the diagnosis is for mental health is total bullshit. Have you never gone through it? Lmao. Hes better off staying away from those homosexuals and just roiding, getting big and learning how to control and live with his mind. Diagnosis makes no difference. Ive been told bipolar skitzotypol bpd autism adhd lmao from the questionaires and seeing a doc for a year. I dont take my meds frick that, I pin test tren mast then ill pin just test then something else, way better than the trash those homosexuals give me. I used to love writing on my body with razorblades, felt so good, I dont do it anymore because Im in control of my mind, yeah I want to, but why ruin the progress Ive made? Steroids are great for your mind in low to mid doses. No more than couple grams few compounds.
9 months ago
Anonymous
moron take. Getting on an SNRI was the best thing I’ve ever done and I was adamantly opposed to psychiatry and meds for a LONG time.. Most people can fix their mental state by fixing their behavior but I was obsessively suicidally depressed for a very long time and I feel alive for the first time in my entire life. Just running low dose test to counteract the loss libido and I’m off drugs/alcohol and making great gains.
Don’t ever listen to people on IST for advice aboht anything.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Youre an idiot and i can only hope depressedanon is smart enough to ignore your schizoid ramblings
Yet I feel amazing, Im in control of my own thoughts and im not a zombie slob like my ssri friends. I will admit its not the safest way to do it and ive been helped supported by my family but its worked really well for me. I also dont do any drugs no smoking no alcohol.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Did you attempt suicide? How many times? If you didnt, then youre a b***h and werent depressed. Lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you didtn attempt suicide youre an attention seeking poser, not mentally ill, you dont know real mental illness lmao Im way more mentally ill than yet youre a way more a homosexual than me. Youre a poser muh ssri fsggot
I had a loaded gun in my mouth twice. The first time I’m not sure how it didn’t go off because I accidentally put a round through my night table earlier in the night unloading it because I was feeling crazy (wrong medication). Had the rifle in my mouth later on outside with the safety off and my thumb resting on the trigger. No idea how I’m still alive.
Second time was a couple months build up so it was scarier because it was planned, gf wouldn’t let me leave house with gun and said I’d have to shoot her if I was gonna leave with the rifle. So I went to blow my head off in the kitchen but saw her face and I love her and couldn’t ruin her forever because I wanted to die
9 months ago
Anonymous
Thats gay as frick, did you suck it? Jesus your a fsggot lmao BOO HOO I SUCKED OFF A GUN TWICE it didnt cum though did it homosexual youre pathetic, I was right, a b***h.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>you’re not actually depressed unless you have a nice day
You should look into suicide, nobody would miss you. It would probably be a relief to anybody you know.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ive met death c**t been into the light via the dark surrounded by all moments in time and came back, what the frick do you know about killing yourself and suicide lmao death is my friend he likes me, you wont be let back in you dont have a hurricane of dead people around you couldnt cope with any of that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You sound like the legitimately crazy homosexuals in the psych ward kek. Godspeed bro
9 months ago
Anonymous
But with access to ALL THE STEROIDS I WANT MUHAHAHAHAHAHA YESSSSSSS THERES NO STOPPING ME NOW YOULL SEE AHAHAHAHAHA I WILL RIP THIS REALITY APART WHEN I FLEX AHAHAHAH IM KILLING EVERYONE AND DESTROYING THIS WORLD MUAHAHAHAHA normally I hide it well you couldnt even tell.
9 months ago
Anonymous
10:1 odds that you’re a complete DYEL
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ill take that. DYEL is a lock hammer it
9 months ago
Anonymous
You do realize your moronic ass is why gun control has become so arduous right?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Kek no? Suicides are over 70% of all gun deaths every year, nobody cares homosexual. There’s zero legislation that’s pushed to prevent suicide by guns.
ALSO, ND’s are just a part of gun ownership. In my defense I was fricking hammered as well.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You need a beating , you need to self harm, punch walls, push h3avy weight. Anything. You can become a machine easy if you really want to. The mind is easy to manipulate to your advantage, pain is great medicine. Its a shame im not nice or id help you but youre a massive weak b***h who sucks off guns lmao next pull the trigger b***h
9 months ago
Anonymous
I’m good now thanks to meds, sobriety, clean eating and lifting. I’m thankful to be alive.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh well thats good if thats what you want.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It’s pretty based so far, would recommend to anybody currently living sub-optimally
9 months ago
Anonymous
homosexual. Dx28g
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you didtn attempt suicide youre an attention seeking poser, not mentally ill, you dont know real mental illness lmao Im way more mentally ill than yet youre a way more a homosexual than me. Youre a poser muh ssri fsggot
9 months ago
Anonymous
Youre an idiot and i can only hope depressedanon is smart enough to ignore your schizoid ramblings
9 months ago
Anonymous
what's the point of larping like this? >I have multiple mental illnesses but dont take my meds because frick "pharma israelites" >tren made me sane again
get lost, homosexual
9 months ago
Anonymous
How is it a larp? Im in the system and let me tell you the mental health system sucks. I like pharma companies, i use pharma grade test and drugs whenever possible.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm in the "mental health system" too and I'm making great progress >be you >have mental illness >refuse to take his meds >complains about "the system" >be so delusional (or larping) that he thinks tren made him sane >rants like a lunatic on an anime pedo image board
9 months ago
Anonymous
Considering this website is a massive honeypot i feel better knowing he’s being flagged and monitored and wont be allowed to buy a weapon legally
9 months ago
Anonymous
Have you read the sides for your drugs, I did, first is diabetes lol sudden cause of death,parkinsons( because it does the opposite of parkingsons meds) i could go on and on.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>takes tren for mental health >gives dire warnings about the extremely rare side effects of legit meds
yeah you're completely sane man
I want to get all my mental health advice from you
9 months ago
Anonymous
I said TEST , yes im on tren right now but not for long only for 10 weeks then ill do another two 10 week cycles some time next year or one end of this year.
9 months ago
Anonymous
ok crazy man, anything you say
9 months ago
Anonymous
Also I did said im mentally ill didnt pretend to be normal but ive got it under control .
9 months ago
Anonymous
All to not feel my problems or to be too doped out to remember or notice them. Test on the other hand enbles me to train hard, get stronger, then stacked with other steroids its even better, the more you use the better it is to a point( before sides outweight pros ) most couldnt handle it and are not as mentally strong as me, but god damn I love steroids, they work and so long as I dont lose control like last time i used them I will be fine again im more in control of my mind now Ive put the bad personailty traits away
9 months ago
obtuse
I am obtuse but Im right. Doctors take your vitals, a basic blood panel and ask about two dozen questions in regard to depression. Then they prescribe SSRIs, rarely ever considering other causes/fixes.
The fact that his doctors didnt even treat his low test - which is a syptom of some kind of disorder, even w/o regard to his depression, highlights the common failings of the modern medical system. My suggestions mog yours and are much more likely to lead to a sustained improvement in his life at lower cost and risk.
Everyone I know on ssris are all zombies, all gained alot of fat and bloat. All cant be assed training. They mess with your blood sugar and insulin sensivity and can cause diabetes, random sudden death, all listed in the first few side effects lmao. Id take test and just learn how to control your pyschosis or depression with your own mind. Get big while doing it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>just learn how to control your pyschosis or depression with your own mind
Depressed anon please use this as a prime example of why you should take everything the schizo morons of IST say with a giant grain of salt. If you feel like your original doc was dismissive and just pushing SSRI without checking other options, please just find another doc who’s willing to work and communicate with you. Please don’t leave something so serious to self medicating under the advice of literal morons like this
9 months ago
Anonymous
I did say Im mentally ill, but steroids worked for me and ive been pretty stable for awhile, best ive ever been in ages thanks to getting back on steroids. You think so doc gives a shit about you lmao they dont give a shit. Self medicating with test tren mast and drol has been the best thing ive done in years, wish I hopped back on sooner.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Im certainly not under any illusion i can just jedi mind trick myself into better mental health lol. I am a bit hesitant to seek out another doctor so soon but it is reasonable advice. Ill ask around and perhaps set up a consultation
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Everyone I know on ssris are all zombies, all gained alot of fat and bloat.
You dont know anyone on ssris. People dont go around telling everyone they are on psych meds, but for some reason they all tell you and of course they are fat zombies. Every one.
And you of course you finish off with the "just stop being depressed, bro" schtick.
Im supposed to take anti psychotics etc but I got back on test tren mast anadrol anavar winny etc and never felt better its actually insane how much better you feel on test. Test is really good,I got my dad on it, hes 70 and hes loving it too, says he can feel a big difference etc
why do you guys think there's so much discrepancy between what pussies on online forums and youtube preach versus what pros actually take? ie the 250 test is a good starting point or if you need more than 500 you're doing something wrong, etc. it almost comes off to me as delusional as when people say obvious roid physiques are natty achievable.
i don't think you need rich piana death cycle dosages or anything but i bet you'd be hard pressed to find a pro doing less than 1.5g/w plus hgh
I felt and looked best when I ran either 750mg test or 500mg test+250mg tren.
500mg test is just nice, 600mg is minimum to feel actively good.
But then again, I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome so your results may vary.
>it almost comes off to me as delusional as when people say obvious roid physiques are natty achievable.
about this, you would be surprised by what normies (don't) know. The reality is that only people who are into the fitness industry scene learns that most gains are unnatty. Normies think it's actually normal gains and I'm not talking about fitness influencers bro. I was talking with some colleagues (office job) at the end of a work day. We started talking about The Rock and then one says that one day he's going to start going to the gym and one day look like him. I told him that not in a million years, probably not even with drugs. The guy, was MAD, he was INFURIATED, defending The Rock natty status, saying that he trained for 15 years and that he doesn't do drugs and you don't need drugs to look like that. Kek I shit you not, normies think that physiques like the Rock are natty.
Depends on your goals. With gh I guess you’re trying to get big so some tbol would be good. Personally on my first cycle I would keep it simple but tbol isn’t bad but you should get your liver values checked before you start
Zoomer anon, never buy from darknet. Clear web source boards are what you need.
Reddit steroids is good for info and experiences
Evolutionary forum Uk muscle T muscle are good boards for more in depth experiences, I would add Meso Rx to the list
Use Meso and the rest will fall into place.
Dont ban me for this homosexual jannies, Im only referring him to other forums that are dedicated to bodybuilding.
Any good bulking stacks WITHOUT insomnia for my next cycle? I've run a dbol/test and tren/test cycle before and sleeplessness has been fricking me over so hard at uni.
Everyone is different on what their tells of high e2 are, but bloat is a very common one. For me it's low libido and acne that let me know it's too high.
9 months ago
Anonymous
For me, it's bloat + greasy af skin + puffy nips + mood swings + high libido but can't cum/get a good erection
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh also the urge to get fricked by trannies gets exponentially worse the higher I let my e2 ride
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah 100% agree on the erection problems. I've had gyno surgery already so the nipples don't give me a good indication.
I get good appetite suppression on 1mg/wk. I dose it 2x/wk because I get side effects if I do the 1mg all at once. Basically you just feel full really quickly when you start eating. Hard to finish meals. Start at 0.25mg per week and work your way up to ensure you don't get nasty side effects. I get a 4mg vial for $70.
Not him but I have ordered 10x2mg semaglutide vials for 90 usd (total). Starting dose is 0,25mg but you can start even lower and see how your body reacts. Will try taking their CJC 1295 w DAC and staring with a low-ish dose mk677 to see if it works good at stopping muscle catabolism and improving sleep. It hasn't arrived yet though. Tirzepatide is way more expensive but has some unique benefits like improving insuline sensitivity more and studies showing it makes fatties lose even more weight than Semaglutide. Other things to look up is orlistat and modafinil.
I've been on my first cycle for 6 weeks now. Test cyp - 600mg once a week and dianabol 25mg pre-workout. After all the planning I did before hand I couldn't have imagined the emotional toll it'd have on me.
Last night me and my girlfriend went out for a couple of drinks in the city. I've been hiding my gear and as far as she knows I'm completely natural. Just bulking up for winter as I told her before the cycle. Anyway, we get into the first bar and she orders a drink. I've been dehydrated most of the day and decided to order a whiskey. This was a mistake.
Fast forward 3 hours and I'm 6 whiskeys in. One of her work colleagues sees us at the bar and comes over with her boyfriend. The boyfriend for some reason is acting like a bit of a c**t, I can tell he's jealous of my physique. We converse for a bit and in between conversation I tell my girlfriends colleague that she "could do better". Out of nowhere the boyfriend hooks me in the nose and splits my face instantly. I stumble and tackle him to the floor before elbowing him in the face multiple times. I smashed teeth and the dude was pretty messed up. We left the bar, girlfriend crying and she couldn't understand what was wrong with me. I hardly remember any of it.
Probably going to get taken to court or something bros. The guys not dead but it's the next day and I know I've done a number on him.
First of all imagine blaming your qxtions on lmao 600mg test
Second of all what exactly are you whining about. Oh boo hoo you beat the shit out of another guy in front of his and your gf and cemented your physical superiority in both their eyes.
Yeah that's rough bro.
bro you're just mentally ill, I'm on my first test e 600mg/week cycle and i don't feel any sides other than small acne outbreaks on my back and shoulders
hey thats not fair to blame your insecure behavior on the two mildest fricking oldest steroids in existence. or i guess you can, but blame it on basically being a PMSing woman since you didnt mention anything about AI and your E2/methylestradiol levels are probably higher than a transitioning MTF
You dont need to work on your body, but work on your mind and your insecurities.
Wtf is that behaviour, are you this much of a little school girl?
Start your mental health recovery now, before you are that old roided guy in the gym that still thinks this shit is cool and goes home to his dog to eat broccoli and rice.
>Wtf is that behaviour, are you this much of a little school girl?
Anon blasts dbol, downs 6x whiskeys and proceeds to elbow hammer some dudes face in the middle of a bar. Doesn't sound like "school girl behavior" to me.
Actually sounds kinda unhinged and dangerous. Should probably up the dbol to 50mg ED and throw and AI I'm there.
>Start your mental health recovery now, before you are that old roided guy in the gym that still thinks this shit is cool and goes home to his dog to eat broccoli and rice.
As opposed to what? You keeping your fricking 72 vials of test disguised as a box of your kids cinnamon toast crunch cereal box moron?
>I tell my girlfriends colleague that she "could do better"
embarrassing behavior, just bang her out of sight. why would you bring both your gf and her bf into it?
i guess you're black since you have such problems with impulse control
bro I can just say it's medical, besides, at least in poland, T is legal to have, you just can't sell/own large quantities with the intention to redistribute, and I only want to use T for the stay because I don't want to deal with PCT while also being hospitalized
Before all that id want to torture you maybe inject piss into each of your eyeballs, start at 3ml just keep injecting 3ml of piss untill your eyes pop dont mske me hunt you down I will throw it all away to inject piss into your eyes you
Unless you make money from frauding your gains it is really entirely pointless to bother with fricking up your hormones or destroying your body and physique. You won't get girls by just being ript. You might get opportunities to talk to them but as soon as they realize you are broke (subjective) or boring then it won't be any help at all. Roids aren't a cure to friendzone status.
i wonder sometimes if im the only person who does steroids because i literally just like doing steroids? like im not even really aiming to gain anything from them, i just enjoy the energy the libido, the recovery, the general uplifting feeling i get.
i didnt start out that way, i did my first cycle hoping to get as huge as possible as quickly as possible. but for some reason i just came to really enjoy the chemicals themselves, very similar to how working out has been just something i enjoy doing but not the reason i started years ago
one thing i like so far on my first cycle, more than anything, is that I "feel" the exact same everyday. There is no mopeiness and laziness if I stay up to late or anything, like sure I'm fatigued, but there is no mental battle when something happens.
Literally the only disadvantage is I am doing daily subq pins, thats it, I hate pinning daily. I am one lazy pos
i pinned ED with 23g harpoons and i agree its more of a hassle than anything kek. a lot of normies just think steroids make you massive instantly and turn you into a serial killer rapist, but i love that mental stability you mention. like nothing really bothers me i dont get beligerent, or i dont start thinking about depressing shit. im just pretty content with everything around me
im not broke. i was just black and ottermode and realized all my white and latina tinder dates expected a yoked thugmaxed homie not an ottermode urkel. i do what I must
how does one make money from frauding without first frauding for years to get to the point they can consider making money?
Or do you think NFL players first start doing steriods the first day they report for training camp?
fricking natty moron
i wonder sometimes if im the only person who does steroids because i literally just like doing steroids? like im not even really aiming to gain anything from them, i just enjoy the energy the libido, the recovery, the general uplifting feeling i get.
i didnt start out that way, i did my first cycle hoping to get as huge as possible as quickly as possible. but for some reason i just came to really enjoy the chemicals themselves, very similar to how working out has been just something i enjoy doing but not the reason i started years ago
These are the real mental effects people speak of. I feel so clear and pumped everyday lmao like an infomercial. On a test EQ cruise and it’s amazing. I’ve been pounding out my girl for an easy hour thanks to the EQ and some cialis
40yr. Got an appointment for trt in a few weeks. This place put “ED appointments for trt are covered” (Canada). So I know they’re cool with doling it out. How can I lower my t levels before a blood test? Was going to have a bad sleep and then jerk off a couple times. They’ll probably want to check bloods every three months. Would I be able to have a decent cycle in 10 weeks and have it back to normal trt levels by 12? Any advice to get hcg prescribed as well? Was thinking I’d mention I have a wife and we want kids or some shit
hcg post cycle should be enough as in a power pct.
I wouldn't cut if you have an injury though, instead workout what you can and do very light high rep sets for hte injured bodypart for bloodflow. Right now you want to be anabolic to ensure recovery from the injury. Water fast will be terrible for that.
anyone do a water fast while on cycle? what was your experience like?
I'm on 500mg test/week rn
injured myself so I think I'll just switch to an aggressive cut. If I water fast for a few days it'll quickly put me into ketosis
hcg post cycle should be enough as in a power pct.
I wouldn't cut if you have an injury though, instead workout what you can and do very light high rep sets for hte injured bodypart for bloodflow. Right now you want to be anabolic to ensure recovery from the injury. Water fast will be terrible for that.
why would it be different than any other oral?
why cant you homosexuals just take the shit the way its supposed to be taken. The way people have been doing it for decades.
But you stupid anime-posting loser incels always want to be told some secret "redpill" way to do it
I'm halfway through a cycle and noticing a little stomach fat. Been bulking pretty hard with good results so far. Should I cut or bulk all the way through and cut later?
how long do you guys typically run 677 and cardarine? im adding them to my 500 test cycle next time around but i dont know if i should run them at the same time or for how long to run each. and yes im a 500 test only gay, i dont take other actual gear only meme pills.
Did roids when i was younger and i get all the sides and then some. I just wanted to know if there is some alternative. Maybe to suppliment with peptites, idk. Will research.
this week i have done 437~ sust 200 tren ace and 30 mg winstrol ed
upping to 500 test 300 tren per next. keeping winstrol same for now (never done it before)
Taking ru58841 in hopes on not loosing hair from winstrol and tren
It might increase dosages depending on how I feel.
Also planing on adding halo when I get close to my competition
tren really takes a lot out of me. only 250mg of ace and I'm already an unstable wreck turning into a sexual predator. deca makes ma a little depressed, high test is nice, only tren fricks me up like this
>cruising on 150mg test >throw in 200mg of tren on top >noticeable increase in libido after 3 days >it's gone/back to normal within 2 days >2 weeks in >not getting morning wood or random erections >can't get a boner without touching your dick >can't maintain a boner >looking at things that make you aroused is doing nothing
I am not sure if this has something to do with test:tren ratio or it's caused by shitty mental state or combination of both.
Yall are dumb and don't know how to manage sides lol. I never have dick problems on tren and I have had one night sweat on tren in the two cycles I've run. I also just learned this to beat tensomnia too and I'm not telling you any of it because you're all worthless and I hate you.
Yall are dumb and don't know how to manage sides lol. I never have dick problems on tren and I have had one night sweat on tren in the two cycles I've run. I also just learned this to beat tensomnia too and I'm not telling you any of it because you're all worthless and I hate you.
All deca sides and tren sides can be managed with ample masteron.
first cycle just ordered
16week 500mg per week test c, kickstart with first pin double dose
2 weeks test prop to taper off finish
will see how it goes and throw in 40mg var daily week 10ish >500iu hcg e3.5d >asin on standby (12.5mg e3.5d as baseline, expecting 500mg + hcg to necessitate some) >ralox on standby >nolva for pct
restarting training, lost good 5kg mass past few months after detraining. going to straighten out diet and routine first then off we go.
Sounds good. The Test-P during the 2 week limbo between end of cycle and PCT is smart, I did 12mg of dbol last time and the massive fluctuations combined with low testosterone caused my shoulders to break out terribly
PS: if you take hCG and don’t take 19nors your PCT will be fine. I’m on week 5/8 right now and didn’t experience anything except some mild hair shedding weeks 1-2
>First cycle
That's a good start but you need something that is going to shock the body, jumpstart the anabolic process. Try 17 weeks tribulus terrestris with a creatine monohydrate kickstart. Don't be afraid to throw in some c4 to keep your energy levels up. Use some HCGenerate E10.5D to keep the family stones moving. Should put on some on serious poundage by the time you're done if you did everything right.
I've always been vehemently anti roids, but I'm starting to think I'm a moron for not cycling very low doses after 35 birthday. what even the point, to feel morally superior when posting my natty PRs on the internet?
do I need PCT after 2 months of 10mg ostarine daily? I want something really mild for my first cycle and I've been considering 10mg of ostarine for 2 months followed by 3 months of MK 677. I did some preliminary research on SARMs, but I don't really know what I'm doing
newbies make the mistake of trying to reach for something the deem safer because they're afraid of pinning and steroids have such a horrible reputation
the truth is that testosterone has been injected, tested and studied by men for decades. it's a bioidentical hormone, generally well-tolerated, and by far the safest option if you just want to dabble
I don't really care about gains that much to bother with pinning, when I can just easily order a cheap pill online to take with other supplements, as long as it allows me to break through the strength plateau. the only side that really bothers me is natural test supression and based on what I read so far, ostarine is least likely to cause it
Over hyped trash, same as ment. Theres a reason they were shelved and never released and have been sitting on paper for years. Nothing beats the classic staples of test deca eq tren dbol anadrol var winny mast etc those drugs have been around for awhile everyone uses them and they work very well with minimal sides.
probably a stupid questions but I cant find the answer so...
is the pct regimen dose dependent with respect to the amount of gear. would you need the same dose of tamoxifen, or pct duration, if you're coming off of 300 mg/week and 1000 mg/week?
ok, so the higher dose will take longer to clear, meaning you have to wait longer to start pct? i've seen various regimens, for example including hcg or clomid/tamoxifen combo etc for longer cycles, so i guess my question is how are there varying degrees of being shut down/suppressed? and more importantly, how do people determine pct dosage and duration?
It's not about the dose, it's about the ester. The ester of a compound affects how long it stays in your system. Read about this.
As for degrees of suppression, you won't find a clear answer. Generally, the longer you're on, the more suppressed you'll be. Some compounds are also more suppressive than others. The only way you'll know is if you measure your natty test before blasting, blast, come off cold turkey, then measure your test again to see where it's at.
>The ester of a compound affects how long it stays in your system
i know this, but i still think a higher dose will take longer to clear your system
>As for degrees of suppression, you won't find a clear answer. Generally, the longer you're on, the more suppressed you'll be. Some compounds are also more suppressive than others
this i dont understand. external testosterone will cause feedback which shuts down endogenous hormone production. my logic is if its shut down, its just shut down, regardless of how it was shut down. so it would make sense to have the same pct whether you did lots of gear or just enough to shut it down. it seems like that isnt the case though, so there must be some kind of mechanistic explanation. i get why you would use different pct drugs for different gear, like antiprolactins for 19nors, but not why you would use different pct for different dose/cycles length. >The only way you'll know is if you measure your natty test before blasting, blast, come off cold turkey, then measure your test again to see where it's at.
ok, makes sense conceptually. but how do you determine the pct from the difference in free/total test pre/post cycle?
If you are using a short ester, the difference in clear time between a high and low dose is negligible. I think this only matters in the case of a compound with like a very long ester like undecanoate. Say you took a gram of test U, it would take about 16 weeks for it to entirely clear from your system.
As for PCT protocols, I don't have much advice to give you, because I'm BnC and can't be bothered to look into it. I don't think it makes sense to design your PCT around how "suppressive" your blast is, because you can't really measure this easily. I think your PCT should consist of the most effective doses and use durations of things like enclomiphene or nolvadex. I would avoid outdated compounds like clomid. Someone else will have to tell you about specifically what doses to run and for how long, because once again, this is not something I've looked into.
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yeah, you're probably right, the rough guidelines, like 20-40 mg nolvo ED 2-4 weeks, are probably applicable in most cases. im thinking of trying a cycle again, but I want to get away with as little drugs as possible and also have an exit strategy. i did dbol and winny like 15 years ago, with no test or pct like a fricking idiot, so i'd like to know as much as possible if I actually decide to do it. thinking 12 weeks straight test e, maybe adding anavar towards the end making it 14 in total before starting pct
At a small TRT dose of 125mg per week, it would last you 4 weeks. You have to space out your injections though… you can't just blast all 500 then stop cold turkey. You should break it up over 8 injections and inject twice a week,
maybe I wasn't clear. I have to go off for 2 months cold turkey, and then I'll come back right on, I'm not doing a pct.
Im wondering if my last shot ''lasts'' longer if it's a bigger dose. I think the way half life works it should last a bit longer than a smaller dose?
I normally do 200mgs a week, I've gone 3-4 weeks without injecting a few times and thats when i start feeling the low test effect of the gear wearing off.
I'm wondering if I do a 600mg final dose, if I'll feel ''okay'' for maybe 5-6 weeks? Which will make the 2 month break more manageable, so i'll only feel shitty for 2-3 weeks
>I think the way half life works it should last a bit longer than a smaller dose?
>As long as the longest ester in that moronic ass mix
the longest ester is decanoatate which has a 2 week halflife iirc??
more gear should last longer since it takes longer to eliminate it
>But it doesn't even matter because 75% of testosterone esters from one injection will be out of your system in one week.
40% of Sust 250 is decanoate which lasts longer than the other derivatives.
>more gear should last longer since it takes longer to eliminate it
Holy frick, you are so fricking moronic i don't even know what yo say. How about you learn the basics before you start taking anything?
You sound like a 3rd worlder who simply jumped the gun and the fact that you are taking sustanon gives me 99.9% certainty that are actually form 3rd world. No one in the right mind will ever use this trash cancer mix. Only people who are clueless will get tricked into buying this shit.
All i can tell you is that you are literally brain dead fricking moronic. You know absolutely nothing about steroids and here you are, injecting yourself with them without any thought.
>How long will a 500mg dose of sustanon last me?
As long as the longest ester in that moronic ass mix. But it doesn't even matter because 75% of testosterone esters from one injection will be out of your system in one week.
>will a bigger dose last longer?
No.
>how can I make this shit last 2 months?
You can't.
>As long as the longest ester in that moronic ass mix
the longest ester is decanoatate which has a 2 week halflife iirc??
more gear should last longer since it takes longer to eliminate it
>But it doesn't even matter because 75% of testosterone esters from one injection will be out of your system in one week.
40% of Sust 250 is decanoate which lasts longer than the other derivatives.
Why the frick is testosterone £40 for 10ml now? I just want some fricking test c for a normal price. It's so fricking aids trying to find a fkn website
>be me >Working at nice place for a few weeks >Lot of chick coworkers 3-4 pretty cute >Am alpha male there because most jacked and high status >Taller dude starts, I'm only 5'9 >Immediately the chick who was acting super into me, is all over him >Dude is lanklet never lifted a day in his life
Frick this shit. Nothing I can do but get as wide as possible. Getting on tren brahs
>running 200 test and 200 tren >3 weeks in, everything fine >zero changes in diet since the beginning >all of a sudden gain 9 lbs of pure water within a week >look absolutely disgusting and get high bp
I guess it's time to drop tren.
The only thing that's huge is my ego.
For real though, undoubtedly the best gains I've made in a blast, but the fatigue is starting to hit me now. I'll just finish this last vial and be done. All in all, my experience with tren did not live up to what it's known for. Sides are completely overblown. Gains were great once again, but not the mutant gains people hype up tren for.
The only thing that's huge is my ego.
For real though, undoubtedly the best gains I've made in a blast, but the fatigue is starting to hit me now. I'll just finish this last vial and be done. All in all, my experience with tren did not live up to what it's known for. Sides are completely overblown. Gains were great once again, but not the mutant gains people hype up tren for.
lucky. i cant handle tren >150mg/wk without sides like b***hyness and hella jealousy. but i can run a gram of test side free so im grateful.
Anything against shin splits (after rooning)?
To my surprise, anabolics don't to shit for periosteum.
Corticosteroids are harmful for joints and are advised against.
300mg test prop
500mg primo
152mg parabolan
50mg anavar
Lmao he said he heard nasser was doing gorilla doses and tried going above 1000mg of test and didnt like it or notice any benefit lmao. His accent has changed and is weird as frick aswell, says he hates bodybuilding as modern guys suck but sells garbage supplements lol
Please respond to my thread
Ur funny and cute haha, can I suck your wiener?
I would like to emotionally support her and have an intellectual conversation with her if you catch my drift.
you sick frick
Reddit warned me about peeps like you.
MOOOOOOOOOOOODS
my order came with 2 50 packs of Winstrol randomly. I did not order this shit.
I'm on 400mg test-e per week and I have no real sides. should I take it and see what happens? I want to cut around 10lbs right now
I really liked winstrol as a preworkout. Take it like an hour before you lift, made me feel very strong.
my plug takes some pills out of the box for himself but you get 2 whole free boxes. you better be taking it brah
>had to get put under to remove my wisdom teeth
>the girl was having so much trouble getting the needle into my skin, only after teaming up with another girl did they manage to get it in after 5-10 minutes struggling
>they said wow you have such thick skin
>t-thanks you to
Is this because of the Test E?
o_o
Would 300-500mg of test prevent muscle loss (80%+ fat loss) from a 1.5k calorie deficit per day?
What about 300-500 test plus anavar?
tfw mogged by thick skin
The schizo in me thinks they are trying to sabotage other people's gains.
anavar maybe?
dont do dbol imo, harder to manage estrogen and you will bloat a lot
no i was going to do something like winny or anavar and leaning toward anavar
Blasting on a cut is straight moronic.
I'm running 750/600 test primo and 50mg var on a cut just to prove you Black folk that fricking whine about blasting on a cut
It depends on your goals, if you’re huge then you will need to blast while cutting to maintain your size. If you go well beyond your natty limit, and then you lower your calories and gear usage, you will lose size for sure.
If you just want to look muscular and lean at the beach then sure you can cut on a cruise dose
I hate these youtube trt homosexuals like MPMD so much. I was having low libido and according to all of them that's a sign of low e2, so I dropped the AI for a little bit hoping it would get better. All that did was make my low libido even worse. As soon as I started taking AI again and increased the frequency I take it at my libido came back and my dick is rock hard again. These homosexuals love to make everyone scared of AI and say you should keep your e2 high.
>Clomid
>If you get the visual sides they stay for life
What does this mean? Isn't there a safe dose, or is it a straight up gamble?
It's a gamble. Highly recommend using ralox instead for gyno. I've ran it for an extended period of time with zero sides.
Why would anyone in their right mind even put it as option then? wtf
There is old protocols floating around that tell you to use high dosages and combine nolva and clomid and it just hasn't been updated. You can get away with lower dosages of nolva for pct. For AI on cycle use aromasin.
Can low E2 cause a loss of dick sensitivity?
I added proviron to my cruise because I like how it feels but now a day or 2 later my dick is sort of "numb"
You probably brought your shbg down too low.
yeah ive noticed low E2 just makes me act like a c**t, high E2 makes my dick go limp. DHT is what gives me insane rock hard boners
lol u took that gif from my hgh question thread based.
Should I talk to a Physician about Steroids? I heard it has benefits and they can help figure out a cycle that’s effective
Are you talking about doing a real cycle or trt? A doctor isn't gonna help you cycle.
Cycling. I don’t know shit, I’m trying to learn. I just read somewhere they can help figure out a personalized cycle
Nah they can help with trt but that's about it. They're not gonna give you a script for 500mg/wk lol.
Is there any level in which a person should confide with a doctor about steroids for any reason, other than drastic medical emergencies? I just want to be safe if I’m going to delve deep
No real reason to tell a doctor. If you're in the US you can order lab tests through ultalabs to monitor your estrogen and those kinds of things. The standard 500mg beginner test cycle is not very dangerous, nothing to really worry about other than keeping e2 in check with aromatase inhibitors. Can also take finasteride if worried about hair loss.
you should get a physical done and monitor your health. if you have a good (white male, reasonably fit) doctor, you should be honest with him about everything you take. You don't want to end up like Zyzz bc you didn't realize you had a heart condition and decided to blast.
You should also be honest with your lawyer. They can't help you if they don't know the whole picture
At best they'll give you a gel/cream if they even agree to do it. Most don't know what they are doing.
Doctors are, in general, fricking moronic. All they know how to do is refer you to a specialist or write you a prescription for shit you don't need.
Do your own research and buy your own drugs. Going to a doctor is going to be a waste of time and money.
HMMMM OH YEAH BABY MAMMA LET ME MILK YOU OOOOOOHHH
Id like to try some trt before i cave in to the SSRI israelite. What should i be pinning? Would 100 twice a week be enough? My test is about 220 rn and I believe it to be a major factor in my anxiety depression and lethargy
Yeah 200 would be a great start, it's basically just a high trt does where you'll have higher than peak natty levels but won't have to worry much about sides
check your thyroid too bro
I guess I could ask. The doctors seemed annoyed that I asked for my T levels checked in the first place. Then when it came back they told me this on the normal range even tho from everything ive read this is the super low end and abnormal for a 24yo male especially considering i have symptoms of ED (although i think thats more anxiety induced). I felt they were really trying to push the prozac. I was on prozac when i was a kid and i feel like it just made my life worse so im trying to avoid it if at all possible
And i know that this isn’t my personal blog but you guys are the only ones I can really talk to. Im considering a therapist as well but money is a bit tight. Not saying im smarter than doctors but I really want SSRIs to be the last resort. Worse case scenario i run done test and im no worse off and out much less cash than a therapist would cost
Why can't you do both? You could have 2000ngdl test and because of your depression you could get aggressive and irritable. Suicidal even. Test doesn't magically fix mental health, but it makes going to the gym or working out way easier and better. Even more of a plus if you have a phsycial job. If you are actually depressed though you're just going to end up hormonal and unmotivated. You're not really gaining anything if youre unable to put the effort in to make the test do it's magic. My first blast I was trying self medicate and I became a psychopath, now I take mood stabilizers and can do gear as well and I don't treat people like shit and a psycho. It's all a balancing act.
I guess im just hoping the depression is a symptom of low t. Not just a concurrent problem. I don’t think such a low dose of T will make me a psychopath or cause noticeable sides. Am I incorrect in this?
Usually you're low t because of depression and Google searches about low t that show the top posts on reddit about how "t cured muh depreshun" is a confirmation bias. Also why are you against the "pharma israelite" but you're ok with putting hormones in your body which are made by underground chinese labs and pharmaceutical companies? If you don't like ssris there's tons of other medications that work better. I love test, but I'm tired of the meme that it's an anti depressant and fixes mental health issues. I guarantee you that you won't feel anything on a pussy dose of test, self medicating. Try a proper treatment protocol on top of it at least please.
Ive tried prozac before and it wasn’t a good experience. It turned me off SSRIs. Im not ruling them out completely but like i said id like them to be the last option and not the first. I will try them if j need to
Don't take anything that doesn't make you feel the most like yourself tell the doc its time for a different med. SSRI and NDRI make me psychotic I get by on a low dose of lithium. Everybody is different. Just remember treating the symptom of low t is only going to patch up part of the issue. Don't be a channer schizo and take care of your brain.
200 test is horribly low. Like teenage girl low
your doctors full of shit. start pinning.
Pin test, at least a trt dose. try that for a few months. Dont go to a clinic, just buy it from internet strangers. keep a journal of how you feel, your sleep length and quality, diet and exercise.
If symptoms persist, add on Modafanil 200mg a day (with food) Ive been taking it since 2016. Only side effect was slight headache if I didnt take with food and mild insomnia if you take it after Noon.
Ssri are trash, the safest is wellbutrin but dont take with Modaf, it raise blood pressure
>200mg modaf a day
NTA, but homie what? i was taking 100mg a day when working nights for a couple months and I feel like that fried my brain for a while after. not a good idea. modafinil is best used sparingly, once a week tops for a day of graft. 200mg modafinil daily is gonna turn this anon into a schizo insomniac. not hating on modafinil, shit saved my A-levels and basically completed my degree for me.
Cope. Ive been taking it for yeara, ranging from 200mg to 800mg ED. Youre a little baby. Keeps you upright and human, willing to interact with normies. It also lets you drink more than normal.
testosterone is not an anti-depressant or psych med.
I seem to be conflicting information. Ive seen several places say that low t can cause lethargy and depression
It is possible but by no means definitive. But judging by the posts I assume are yours, you seem to know that. Id ignore the guy saying you’ll become psychotic at 200, that is INCREDIBLY unlikely at that dose. Just be careful and monitor yourself well. And keep an open mind about further treatments such as an SSRI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9216439/
His test is very low. I think the typical range used goes up to 900. Hes at 200/900. If any other lab came back that low, it would require immeditae intervention (typically via a supplement.)
Theres literally no downside to supplementing his current test levels to natty trt levela, while there is significant downside to taking ssris.
Ok. All im saying is that the low T may not be the cause of the depression. Taking a small amount of T might improve things, but he shouldn’t get frustrated if that doesn’t work and ramp up the T to high doses. Its very possible he needs an SSRI or other treatments. Lethargy, depression, and lowered test could also be caused from sleep apnea for instance. We literally don’t know and he needs to be careful with self medication.
Theres literally nothing wrong with self medicating if you take proper steps and moniter your health. Also this thread is literally for taking higher than trt doses of test and other AAS.
Sleep apnea? Bro come on. Ill bet you 8 vials of test its not sleep apnea. Depressed dudes on this forum probably all suffer from a combination of low self esteem, limited physical exercise, limited social interactions, excessive tv/movie/screen time, poor diet and sleep habits, perhaps too much drug/alcohol use.
Trt or cycling test fixes two or three issues immediately, subsequently he'll also be more likely to eat right and sleep right and he'll be spending at least 1 hour less staring at a screen. His imrpoved physique had the chance of improving his self esteem and making him more willing to interact socially. Have the threads on this board are about guys doing just that and then posting about how they made it
>inb4 projection, its literally the most common issue on this forum
> Ill bet you 8 vials of test its not sleep apnea
You’re intentionally being obtuse at this point. That was just an example. It could be any number of things. The point is we have no idea whats wrong with depressed anon. Even if we were all ivy league educated physicians were going off two paragraphs on a Hyrulean rock skipping forum. Thats not enough to diagnose shit. Theres very little risk involved in low test doses but he should still be in contact with a professional regardless, and keep in mind the fact that trt might not help at all
Not him but the diagnosis is for mental health is total bullshit. Have you never gone through it? Lmao. Hes better off staying away from those homosexuals and just roiding, getting big and learning how to control and live with his mind. Diagnosis makes no difference. Ive been told bipolar skitzotypol bpd autism adhd lmao from the questionaires and seeing a doc for a year. I dont take my meds frick that, I pin test tren mast then ill pin just test then something else, way better than the trash those homosexuals give me. I used to love writing on my body with razorblades, felt so good, I dont do it anymore because Im in control of my mind, yeah I want to, but why ruin the progress Ive made? Steroids are great for your mind in low to mid doses. No more than couple grams few compounds.
moron take. Getting on an SNRI was the best thing I’ve ever done and I was adamantly opposed to psychiatry and meds for a LONG time.. Most people can fix their mental state by fixing their behavior but I was obsessively suicidally depressed for a very long time and I feel alive for the first time in my entire life. Just running low dose test to counteract the loss libido and I’m off drugs/alcohol and making great gains.
Don’t ever listen to people on IST for advice aboht anything.
Yet I feel amazing, Im in control of my own thoughts and im not a zombie slob like my ssri friends. I will admit its not the safest way to do it and ive been helped supported by my family but its worked really well for me. I also dont do any drugs no smoking no alcohol.
Did you attempt suicide? How many times? If you didnt, then youre a b***h and werent depressed. Lmao
I had a loaded gun in my mouth twice. The first time I’m not sure how it didn’t go off because I accidentally put a round through my night table earlier in the night unloading it because I was feeling crazy (wrong medication). Had the rifle in my mouth later on outside with the safety off and my thumb resting on the trigger. No idea how I’m still alive.
Second time was a couple months build up so it was scarier because it was planned, gf wouldn’t let me leave house with gun and said I’d have to shoot her if I was gonna leave with the rifle. So I went to blow my head off in the kitchen but saw her face and I love her and couldn’t ruin her forever because I wanted to die
Thats gay as frick, did you suck it? Jesus your a fsggot lmao BOO HOO I SUCKED OFF A GUN TWICE it didnt cum though did it homosexual youre pathetic, I was right, a b***h.
>you’re not actually depressed unless you have a nice day
You should look into suicide, nobody would miss you. It would probably be a relief to anybody you know.
Ive met death c**t been into the light via the dark surrounded by all moments in time and came back, what the frick do you know about killing yourself and suicide lmao death is my friend he likes me, you wont be let back in you dont have a hurricane of dead people around you couldnt cope with any of that.
You sound like the legitimately crazy homosexuals in the psych ward kek. Godspeed bro
But with access to ALL THE STEROIDS I WANT MUHAHAHAHAHAHA YESSSSSSS THERES NO STOPPING ME NOW YOULL SEE AHAHAHAHAHA I WILL RIP THIS REALITY APART WHEN I FLEX AHAHAHAH IM KILLING EVERYONE AND DESTROYING THIS WORLD MUAHAHAHAHA normally I hide it well you couldnt even tell.
10:1 odds that you’re a complete DYEL
Ill take that. DYEL is a lock hammer it
You do realize your moronic ass is why gun control has become so arduous right?
Kek no? Suicides are over 70% of all gun deaths every year, nobody cares homosexual. There’s zero legislation that’s pushed to prevent suicide by guns.
ALSO, ND’s are just a part of gun ownership. In my defense I was fricking hammered as well.
You need a beating , you need to self harm, punch walls, push h3avy weight. Anything. You can become a machine easy if you really want to. The mind is easy to manipulate to your advantage, pain is great medicine. Its a shame im not nice or id help you but youre a massive weak b***h who sucks off guns lmao next pull the trigger b***h
I’m good now thanks to meds, sobriety, clean eating and lifting. I’m thankful to be alive.
Oh well thats good if thats what you want.
It’s pretty based so far, would recommend to anybody currently living sub-optimally
homosexual. Dx28g
If you didtn attempt suicide youre an attention seeking poser, not mentally ill, you dont know real mental illness lmao Im way more mentally ill than yet youre a way more a homosexual than me. Youre a poser muh ssri fsggot
Youre an idiot and i can only hope depressedanon is smart enough to ignore your schizoid ramblings
what's the point of larping like this?
>I have multiple mental illnesses but dont take my meds because frick "pharma israelites"
>tren made me sane again
get lost, homosexual
How is it a larp? Im in the system and let me tell you the mental health system sucks. I like pharma companies, i use pharma grade test and drugs whenever possible.
I'm in the "mental health system" too and I'm making great progress
>be you
>have mental illness
>refuse to take his meds
>complains about "the system"
>be so delusional (or larping) that he thinks tren made him sane
>rants like a lunatic on an anime pedo image board
Considering this website is a massive honeypot i feel better knowing he’s being flagged and monitored and wont be allowed to buy a weapon legally
Have you read the sides for your drugs, I did, first is diabetes lol sudden cause of death,parkinsons( because it does the opposite of parkingsons meds) i could go on and on.
>takes tren for mental health
>gives dire warnings about the extremely rare side effects of legit meds
yeah you're completely sane man
I want to get all my mental health advice from you
I said TEST , yes im on tren right now but not for long only for 10 weeks then ill do another two 10 week cycles some time next year or one end of this year.
ok crazy man, anything you say
Also I did said im mentally ill didnt pretend to be normal but ive got it under control .
All to not feel my problems or to be too doped out to remember or notice them. Test on the other hand enbles me to train hard, get stronger, then stacked with other steroids its even better, the more you use the better it is to a point( before sides outweight pros ) most couldnt handle it and are not as mentally strong as me, but god damn I love steroids, they work and so long as I dont lose control like last time i used them I will be fine again im more in control of my mind now Ive put the bad personailty traits away
I am obtuse but Im right. Doctors take your vitals, a basic blood panel and ask about two dozen questions in regard to depression. Then they prescribe SSRIs, rarely ever considering other causes/fixes.
The fact that his doctors didnt even treat his low test - which is a syptom of some kind of disorder, even w/o regard to his depression, highlights the common failings of the modern medical system. My suggestions mog yours and are much more likely to lead to a sustained improvement in his life at lower cost and risk.
Everyone I know on ssris are all zombies, all gained alot of fat and bloat. All cant be assed training. They mess with your blood sugar and insulin sensivity and can cause diabetes, random sudden death, all listed in the first few side effects lmao. Id take test and just learn how to control your pyschosis or depression with your own mind. Get big while doing it.
>just learn how to control your pyschosis or depression with your own mind
Depressed anon please use this as a prime example of why you should take everything the schizo morons of IST say with a giant grain of salt. If you feel like your original doc was dismissive and just pushing SSRI without checking other options, please just find another doc who’s willing to work and communicate with you. Please don’t leave something so serious to self medicating under the advice of literal morons like this
I did say Im mentally ill, but steroids worked for me and ive been pretty stable for awhile, best ive ever been in ages thanks to getting back on steroids. You think so doc gives a shit about you lmao they dont give a shit. Self medicating with test tren mast and drol has been the best thing ive done in years, wish I hopped back on sooner.
Im certainly not under any illusion i can just jedi mind trick myself into better mental health lol. I am a bit hesitant to seek out another doctor so soon but it is reasonable advice. Ill ask around and perhaps set up a consultation
>Everyone I know on ssris are all zombies, all gained alot of fat and bloat.
You dont know anyone on ssris. People dont go around telling everyone they are on psych meds, but for some reason they all tell you and of course they are fat zombies. Every one.
And you of course you finish off with the "just stop being depressed, bro" schtick.
Im supposed to take anti psychotics etc but I got back on test tren mast anadrol anavar winny etc and never felt better its actually insane how much better you feel on test. Test is really good,I got my dad on it, hes 70 and hes loving it too, says he can feel a big difference etc
why do you guys think there's so much discrepancy between what pussies on online forums and youtube preach versus what pros actually take? ie the 250 test is a good starting point or if you need more than 500 you're doing something wrong, etc. it almost comes off to me as delusional as when people say obvious roid physiques are natty achievable.
i don't think you need rich piana death cycle dosages or anything but i bet you'd be hard pressed to find a pro doing less than 1.5g/w plus hgh
I felt and looked best when I ran either 750mg test or 500mg test+250mg tren.
500mg test is just nice, 600mg is minimum to feel actively good.
But then again, I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome so your results may vary.
>it almost comes off to me as delusional as when people say obvious roid physiques are natty achievable.
about this, you would be surprised by what normies (don't) know. The reality is that only people who are into the fitness industry scene learns that most gains are unnatty. Normies think it's actually normal gains and I'm not talking about fitness influencers bro. I was talking with some colleagues (office job) at the end of a work day. We started talking about The Rock and then one says that one day he's going to start going to the gym and one day look like him. I told him that not in a million years, probably not even with drugs. The guy, was MAD, he was INFURIATED, defending The Rock natty status, saying that he trained for 15 years and that he doesn't do drugs and you don't need drugs to look like that. Kek I shit you not, normies think that physiques like the Rock are natty.
Thats more sad than funny
Why have the previous OPs been so lazy and moronic. It’s why the threads just die because nobody knows what this is lmao
Anyone who cant crtl f or use the search button is too stupid to do steroid
talk me out of it
Seems like a solid enough cycle. Nothing risky. Is this your first time?
yea
might add an oral too. thoughts?
Depends on your goals. With gh I guess you’re trying to get big so some tbol would be good. Personally on my first cycle I would keep it simple but tbol isn’t bad but you should get your liver values checked before you start
tbol is the perfect first cycle oral imo. So mild and feels great.
Wew those prices. Can anybody hook a brother up with the source I’ll even make a burner email to get it
its just darknet markets brother
You don’t got to troll me brother I’m just a skinny zoomer trying to make it
it's literally my screen shot of my cart on a darknet market. go do sarms if you can't figure it out young zoomer
Which darknet market?
like I said figure it out
Zoomer anon, never buy from darknet. Clear web source boards are what you need.
Reddit steroids is good for info and experiences
Evolutionary forum Uk muscle T muscle are good boards for more in depth experiences, I would add Meso Rx to the list
Use Meso and the rest will fall into place.
Dont ban me for this homosexual jannies, Im only referring him to other forums that are dedicated to bodybuilding.
Go through these zoomzoom
Damn, young Jennifer Connelly, was a mischling warlock.
Any good bulking stacks WITHOUT insomnia for my next cycle? I've run a dbol/test and tren/test cycle before and sleeplessness has been fricking me over so hard at uni.
Fix your e2 Black person, if it's too high you'll get insomnia
appreciated, I'll get on it
Could facial bloating also be a symptom of fricked e2?
definitely yes
thanks for the reply, I'm more educated now
Everyone is different on what their tells of high e2 are, but bloat is a very common one. For me it's low libido and acne that let me know it's too high.
For me, it's bloat + greasy af skin + puffy nips + mood swings + high libido but can't cum/get a good erection
Oh also the urge to get fricked by trannies gets exponentially worse the higher I let my e2 ride
Yeah 100% agree on the erection problems. I've had gyno surgery already so the nipples don't give me a good indication.
I found some rad 140 in a junk box while i was cleaning my room, how much of this shit do i take, currently on 750 test
Post test with time stamp or youre a lying sarms zoomer
Thoughts on wegovy/semaglutide? Is there a market for it?
sounds like a relatively safe aid for a cut, no?
Using it rn and loving it
can you elaborate pls?
cost, dosage, effects
I get good appetite suppression on 1mg/wk. I dose it 2x/wk because I get side effects if I do the 1mg all at once. Basically you just feel full really quickly when you start eating. Hard to finish meals. Start at 0.25mg per week and work your way up to ensure you don't get nasty side effects. I get a 4mg vial for $70.
did you get it from the pharmacy or from /fraud sources?
because that sounds like an affordable short-term solution
From a ugl. Mine is opti brand
Not him but I have ordered 10x2mg semaglutide vials for 90 usd (total). Starting dose is 0,25mg but you can start even lower and see how your body reacts. Will try taking their CJC 1295 w DAC and staring with a low-ish dose mk677 to see if it works good at stopping muscle catabolism and improving sleep. It hasn't arrived yet though. Tirzepatide is way more expensive but has some unique benefits like improving insuline sensitivity more and studies showing it makes fatties lose even more weight than Semaglutide. Other things to look up is orlistat and modafinil.
I pinned 125mg of both test and tren 2 days ago and I feel like I'm being observed. Is it normal or maybe a placebo thing?
tren did make me paranoid as frick and I was moronic and didn't do any research so it wasn't a placebo in my case
I've been on my first cycle for 6 weeks now. Test cyp - 600mg once a week and dianabol 25mg pre-workout. After all the planning I did before hand I couldn't have imagined the emotional toll it'd have on me.
Last night me and my girlfriend went out for a couple of drinks in the city. I've been hiding my gear and as far as she knows I'm completely natural. Just bulking up for winter as I told her before the cycle. Anyway, we get into the first bar and she orders a drink. I've been dehydrated most of the day and decided to order a whiskey. This was a mistake.
Fast forward 3 hours and I'm 6 whiskeys in. One of her work colleagues sees us at the bar and comes over with her boyfriend. The boyfriend for some reason is acting like a bit of a c**t, I can tell he's jealous of my physique. We converse for a bit and in between conversation I tell my girlfriends colleague that she "could do better". Out of nowhere the boyfriend hooks me in the nose and splits my face instantly. I stumble and tackle him to the floor before elbowing him in the face multiple times. I smashed teeth and the dude was pretty messed up. We left the bar, girlfriend crying and she couldn't understand what was wrong with me. I hardly remember any of it.
Probably going to get taken to court or something bros. The guys not dead but it's the next day and I know I've done a number on him.
First of all imagine blaming your qxtions on lmao 600mg test
Second of all what exactly are you whining about. Oh boo hoo you beat the shit out of another guy in front of his and your gf and cemented your physical superiority in both their eyes.
Yeah that's rough bro.
bro you're just mentally ill, I'm on my first test e 600mg/week cycle and i don't feel any sides other than small acne outbreaks on my back and shoulders
you deserved it
lol what kind of homosexual beta behavior is this to say that about another man, I hope you go to prison for assault
hey thats not fair to blame your insecure behavior on the two mildest fricking oldest steroids in existence. or i guess you can, but blame it on basically being a PMSing woman since you didnt mention anything about AI and your E2/methylestradiol levels are probably higher than a transitioning MTF
You dont need to work on your body, but work on your mind and your insecurities.
Wtf is that behaviour, are you this much of a little school girl?
Start your mental health recovery now, before you are that old roided guy in the gym that still thinks this shit is cool and goes home to his dog to eat broccoli and rice.
>Wtf is that behaviour, are you this much of a little school girl?
Anon blasts dbol, downs 6x whiskeys and proceeds to elbow hammer some dudes face in the middle of a bar. Doesn't sound like "school girl behavior" to me.
Actually sounds kinda unhinged and dangerous. Should probably up the dbol to 50mg ED and throw and AI I'm there.
>talking smack behind some guys back
>get into catfight
This is fricking schoolgirl bullshit.
>Start your mental health recovery now, before you are that old roided guy in the gym that still thinks this shit is cool and goes home to his dog to eat broccoli and rice.
As opposed to what? You keeping your fricking 72 vials of test disguised as a box of your kids cinnamon toast crunch cereal box moron?
>I tell my girlfriends colleague that she "could do better"
embarrassing behavior, just bang her out of sight. why would you bring both your gf and her bf into it?
i guess you're black since you have such problems with impulse control
>3 hours
>6 whiskeys
What, like 6 shots? Haha, what do you weigh like 130 pounds?
can you take gear with you to the hospital
can I ask the nurses to pin my butt with gear when I'm unable to do it myself
>Autistic gets thrown in jail for a few days and loses the vials he brought with him to the hospital
Much more realistic scenario
bro I can just say it's medical, besides, at least in poland, T is legal to have, you just can't sell/own large quantities with the intention to redistribute, and I only want to use T for the stay because I don't want to deal with PCT while also being hospitalized
Sit down and Pin quad or even calfs lol easy as piss vs glutes having to twist etc frick
Does increasing GH and IGF1 actually increase metabolism and fat burn?
Chubby guy with big traps and small everything else kept on getting beet red between his sets of 195 lb bench
Which one of you losers was it
71914648
wow you really btfo'd all us "roidtroonys" with your le epic troll post.
get a life, loser
oh so it was you.
Should I take ecdysterone on top of 240mg test/week? Got it for free
Before all that id want to torture you maybe inject piss into each of your eyeballs, start at 3ml just keep injecting 3ml of piss untill your eyes pop dont mske me hunt you down I will throw it all away to inject piss into your eyes you
The point is steroids are great meds when used correctly, brilliant even.
I'm a natty limited gymcel failson. Should I do my first cycle at 35?
Not at that bf%. Lose some weight then you can consider some var
Best online source for AIs in the UK? The guy I normally get my stacks from is being an awkward frick.
Steroid source tak.
Steroidify
Delet the thread pls
wat
first cycle ever, my orgasms and stretches have been so intense that my eyes roll back and I get light headed, why?
I also have been really intro aggressive sex and bigger women, but that's probably a higher test thing.
Unless you make money from frauding your gains it is really entirely pointless to bother with fricking up your hormones or destroying your body and physique. You won't get girls by just being ript. You might get opportunities to talk to them but as soon as they realize you are broke (subjective) or boring then it won't be any help at all. Roids aren't a cure to friendzone status.
i wonder sometimes if im the only person who does steroids because i literally just like doing steroids? like im not even really aiming to gain anything from them, i just enjoy the energy the libido, the recovery, the general uplifting feeling i get.
i didnt start out that way, i did my first cycle hoping to get as huge as possible as quickly as possible. but for some reason i just came to really enjoy the chemicals themselves, very similar to how working out has been just something i enjoy doing but not the reason i started years ago
one thing i like so far on my first cycle, more than anything, is that I "feel" the exact same everyday. There is no mopeiness and laziness if I stay up to late or anything, like sure I'm fatigued, but there is no mental battle when something happens.
Literally the only disadvantage is I am doing daily subq pins, thats it, I hate pinning daily. I am one lazy pos
i pinned ED with 23g harpoons and i agree its more of a hassle than anything kek. a lot of normies just think steroids make you massive instantly and turn you into a serial killer rapist, but i love that mental stability you mention. like nothing really bothers me i dont get beligerent, or i dont start thinking about depressing shit. im just pretty content with everything around me
im not broke. i was just black and ottermode and realized all my white and latina tinder dates expected a yoked thugmaxed homie not an ottermode urkel. i do what I must
how does one make money from frauding without first frauding for years to get to the point they can consider making money?
Or do you think NFL players first start doing steriods the first day they report for training camp?
fricking natty moron
Incel cope
These are the real mental effects people speak of. I feel so clear and pumped everyday lmao like an infomercial. On a test EQ cruise and it’s amazing. I’ve been pounding out my girl for an easy hour thanks to the EQ and some cialis
have drawn a cartoon for morons
Is brawn nutrition bunk?
40yr. Got an appointment for trt in a few weeks. This place put “ED appointments for trt are covered” (Canada). So I know they’re cool with doling it out. How can I lower my t levels before a blood test? Was going to have a bad sleep and then jerk off a couple times. They’ll probably want to check bloods every three months. Would I be able to have a decent cycle in 10 weeks and have it back to normal trt levels by 12? Any advice to get hcg prescribed as well? Was thinking I’d mention I have a wife and we want kids or some shit
test test
hcg post cycle should be enough as in a power pct.
I wouldn't cut if you have an injury though, instead workout what you can and do very light high rep sets for hte injured bodypart for bloodflow. Right now you want to be anabolic to ensure recovery from the injury. Water fast will be terrible for that.
my TRT clinic gives you the option to get HCG for 50 dollars extra, ask about it
anyone do a water fast while on cycle? what was your experience like?
I'm on 500mg test/week rn
injured myself so I think I'll just switch to an aggressive cut. If I water fast for a few days it'll quickly put me into ketosis
Meant for
>fast while blasting
solid plan there.
how many hours a day of anime to do you watch?
just asking
how did you know I watch anime?
Whats the best way to run anadrol? i.e cycle on and off or stay on, 4 weeks vs longer
why would it be different than any other oral?
why cant you homosexuals just take the shit the way its supposed to be taken. The way people have been doing it for decades.
But you stupid anime-posting loser incels always want to be told some secret "redpill" way to do it
moron cant even answer the question too busy seething kek
I answered the question you stupid dyel.
Take it the way everyone has been taking it for decades.
I'm halfway through a cycle and noticing a little stomach fat. Been bulking pretty hard with good results so far. Should I cut or bulk all the way through and cut later?
how long do you guys typically run 677 and cardarine? im adding them to my 500 test cycle next time around but i dont know if i should run them at the same time or for how long to run each. and yes im a 500 test only gay, i dont take other actual gear only meme pills.
what's a good compound for cutting?
currently only on 500mg/test
semaglutide
diet. thats it. test is more than enough for preserving mass unless you are doing an insane cut or fast.
is extended fasting while on cycle okay?
I've done it before and it went well. No muscle loss.
Throw var into cycle
Why would it not be?
Can you boost natural test by taking pct as a natty?
Enclomiphene is sometimes used as a substitute for trt. But just doing test is a lot safer.
Thanks, i will look into that.
Did roids when i was younger and i get all the sides and then some. I just wanted to know if there is some alternative. Maybe to suppliment with peptites, idk. Will research.
You probably were not managing e2 very well.
Probably not, there wasnt really that good information or sources back then.
What's a good test/primo ratio? At 650 test and 525 primo
r8 cycle:
comming off cruise of 150~test
this week i have done 437~ sust 200 tren ace and 30 mg winstrol ed
upping to 500 test 300 tren per next. keeping winstrol same for now (never done it before)
Taking ru58841 in hopes on not loosing hair from winstrol and tren
It might increase dosages depending on how I feel.
Also planing on adding halo when I get close to my competition
Second time doing tren
moronic or good to go?
tren really takes a lot out of me. only 250mg of ace and I'm already an unstable wreck turning into a sexual predator. deca makes ma a little depressed, high test is nice, only tren fricks me up like this
Yeah im on 2md week of 300mg and im having to sleep on a towel. Ive got 8 more weeks but its worth it.
>cruising on 150mg test
>throw in 200mg of tren on top
>noticeable increase in libido after 3 days
>it's gone/back to normal within 2 days
>2 weeks in
>not getting morning wood or random erections
>can't get a boner without touching your dick
>can't maintain a boner
>looking at things that make you aroused is doing nothing
I am not sure if this has something to do with test:tren ratio or it's caused by shitty mental state or combination of both.
dont think test tren ratio is fricked.
My friend did 175 test 300 tren I think, insane libido, no problems.
Agreed, up the tren
So you knew that your friends dick got harder than usual? Tren really breaks down the walls of friendship and fwb
You're cruising on tren?
learn how to read
Its just tren in general, fricks up your dick worse than deca.
Yeah my wood is worse on tren, and libido seems sporadic. My libido is usually best on cruise however that works.
Yall are dumb and don't know how to manage sides lol. I never have dick problems on tren and I have had one night sweat on tren in the two cycles I've run. I also just learned this to beat tensomnia too and I'm not telling you any of it because you're all worthless and I hate you.
All deca sides and tren sides can be managed with ample masteron.
Also some t3 as a last resort on tren.
first cycle just ordered
16week 500mg per week test c, kickstart with first pin double dose
2 weeks test prop to taper off finish
will see how it goes and throw in 40mg var daily week 10ish
>500iu hcg e3.5d
>asin on standby (12.5mg e3.5d as baseline, expecting 500mg + hcg to necessitate some)
>ralox on standby
>nolva for pct
restarting training, lost good 5kg mass past few months after detraining. going to straighten out diet and routine first then off we go.
thanks for reading my blog
any comments
Sounds good. The Test-P during the 2 week limbo between end of cycle and PCT is smart, I did 12mg of dbol last time and the massive fluctuations combined with low testosterone caused my shoulders to break out terribly
PS: if you take hCG and don’t take 19nors your PCT will be fine. I’m on week 5/8 right now and didn’t experience anything except some mild hair shedding weeks 1-2
>if you take hCG and don’t take 19nors your PCT will be fine.
i'm a bit of a b***h about this as this knobhead pointed out
not recovering sounds like a nightmare so looking to play it safe
cheers
Yawn worthy boring cycle yawn test half a gram of test lmao woah
>any comments
don't even bother starting if you want to come off
>First cycle
That's a good start but you need something that is going to shock the body, jumpstart the anabolic process. Try 17 weeks tribulus terrestris with a creatine monohydrate kickstart. Don't be afraid to throw in some c4 to keep your energy levels up. Use some HCGenerate E10.5D to keep the family stones moving. Should put on some on serious poundage by the time you're done if you did everything right.
based
why
I've always been vehemently anti roids, but I'm starting to think I'm a moron for not cycling very low doses after 35 birthday. what even the point, to feel morally superior when posting my natty PRs on the internet?
do I need PCT after 2 months of 10mg ostarine daily? I want something really mild for my first cycle and I've been considering 10mg of ostarine for 2 months followed by 3 months of MK 677. I did some preliminary research on SARMs, but I don't really know what I'm doing
Any cliffs near by? Jump off it .
newbies make the mistake of trying to reach for something the deem safer because they're afraid of pinning and steroids have such a horrible reputation
the truth is that testosterone has been injected, tested and studied by men for decades. it's a bioidentical hormone, generally well-tolerated, and by far the safest option if you just want to dabble
I don't really care about gains that much to bother with pinning, when I can just easily order a cheap pill online to take with other supplements, as long as it allows me to break through the strength plateau. the only side that really bothers me is natural test supression and based on what I read so far, ostarine is least likely to cause it
Roid anons can I get your opinion on this
?
40mg test e aweek or fortnight and she will be good2go
Poll here for fraud:
How often do you go to the gym on cycle? And when not on cycle?
How often do you do cardio?
How long do you lift for? How long is your cardio?
I ran a cycle 2 months ago and have a half bottle left, I kept it in the fridge.
Will it be safe to use it for another cycle in 2 months time?
>I kept it in the fridge.
what a fricking moron
thank you, now can you answer my question?
why did you put the vial in the fridge?
because it was 40c where i live and the vial said to store it under 30c.
nd I read if it crystalizes I can just heat it for a bit in warm water.
It didn't crystalize.
Now back to my question, can I use a vial that has been open for ~4 months?
Tren shouldn't affect testosterone levels on bloodwork, right?
It does frick up estrogen test results, right?
Viruzz?
Can sharpen dull needles with a whet stone?
FOR ASUKA
Anyone ever try DHB?
Over hyped trash, same as ment. Theres a reason they were shelved and never released and have been sitting on paper for years. Nothing beats the classic staples of test deca eq tren dbol anadrol var winny mast etc those drugs have been around for awhile everyone uses them and they work very well with minimal sides.
How much more often can I work out if I have a gram of steroids inside me
Not, you train harder each session which eats up your increased recovery ability.
how much can steroids cause LVH and heart problems if your blood pressure and hematocrit are under control?
probably a stupid questions but I cant find the answer so...
is the pct regimen dose dependent with respect to the amount of gear. would you need the same dose of tamoxifen, or pct duration, if you're coming off of 300 mg/week and 1000 mg/week?
you start pct when the steroids are out of your system regardless of what dose you took.
Think about that for a bit.
ok, so the higher dose will take longer to clear, meaning you have to wait longer to start pct? i've seen various regimens, for example including hcg or clomid/tamoxifen combo etc for longer cycles, so i guess my question is how are there varying degrees of being shut down/suppressed? and more importantly, how do people determine pct dosage and duration?
It's not about the dose, it's about the ester. The ester of a compound affects how long it stays in your system. Read about this.
As for degrees of suppression, you won't find a clear answer. Generally, the longer you're on, the more suppressed you'll be. Some compounds are also more suppressive than others. The only way you'll know is if you measure your natty test before blasting, blast, come off cold turkey, then measure your test again to see where it's at.
>The ester of a compound affects how long it stays in your system
i know this, but i still think a higher dose will take longer to clear your system
>As for degrees of suppression, you won't find a clear answer. Generally, the longer you're on, the more suppressed you'll be. Some compounds are also more suppressive than others
this i dont understand. external testosterone will cause feedback which shuts down endogenous hormone production. my logic is if its shut down, its just shut down, regardless of how it was shut down. so it would make sense to have the same pct whether you did lots of gear or just enough to shut it down. it seems like that isnt the case though, so there must be some kind of mechanistic explanation. i get why you would use different pct drugs for different gear, like antiprolactins for 19nors, but not why you would use different pct for different dose/cycles length.
>The only way you'll know is if you measure your natty test before blasting, blast, come off cold turkey, then measure your test again to see where it's at.
ok, makes sense conceptually. but how do you determine the pct from the difference in free/total test pre/post cycle?
If you are using a short ester, the difference in clear time between a high and low dose is negligible. I think this only matters in the case of a compound with like a very long ester like undecanoate. Say you took a gram of test U, it would take about 16 weeks for it to entirely clear from your system.
As for PCT protocols, I don't have much advice to give you, because I'm BnC and can't be bothered to look into it. I don't think it makes sense to design your PCT around how "suppressive" your blast is, because you can't really measure this easily. I think your PCT should consist of the most effective doses and use durations of things like enclomiphene or nolvadex. I would avoid outdated compounds like clomid. Someone else will have to tell you about specifically what doses to run and for how long, because once again, this is not something I've looked into.
yeah, you're probably right, the rough guidelines, like 20-40 mg nolvo ED 2-4 weeks, are probably applicable in most cases. im thinking of trying a cycle again, but I want to get away with as little drugs as possible and also have an exit strategy. i did dbol and winny like 15 years ago, with no test or pct like a fricking idiot, so i'd like to know as much as possible if I actually decide to do it. thinking 12 weeks straight test e, maybe adding anavar towards the end making it 14 in total before starting pct
Is there any reason to take igf/mgf if you aren’t blasting?
Not really no.
I pin for gobu
How long will a 500mg dose of sustanon last me? I know a 250 dose lasts about 2-3 weeks....will a bigger dose last longer?
I'm gonna go 2 months without gear due to family emergency & travel....how can I make this shit last 2 months? Take 750mgs for my last shot lol?
Bump
Do 8ml so 2grams, 2ml in each delt 2ml in each glute or quad etc.
At a small TRT dose of 125mg per week, it would last you 4 weeks. You have to space out your injections though… you can't just blast all 500 then stop cold turkey. You should break it up over 8 injections and inject twice a week,
maybe I wasn't clear. I have to go off for 2 months cold turkey, and then I'll come back right on, I'm not doing a pct.
Im wondering if my last shot ''lasts'' longer if it's a bigger dose. I think the way half life works it should last a bit longer than a smaller dose?
I normally do 200mgs a week, I've gone 3-4 weeks without injecting a few times and thats when i start feeling the low test effect of the gear wearing off.
I'm wondering if I do a 600mg final dose, if I'll feel ''okay'' for maybe 5-6 weeks? Which will make the 2 month break more manageable, so i'll only feel shitty for 2-3 weeks
>I think the way half life works it should last a bit longer than a smaller dose?
>more gear should last longer since it takes longer to eliminate it
Holy frick, you are so fricking moronic i don't even know what yo say. How about you learn the basics before you start taking anything?
You sound like a 3rd worlder who simply jumped the gun and the fact that you are taking sustanon gives me 99.9% certainty that are actually form 3rd world. No one in the right mind will ever use this trash cancer mix. Only people who are clueless will get tricked into buying this shit.
>Seething pointlessly
Lol you ok bud?
>Sustanon is cancer
It's fine, prescribed and used all over the world
Anyway
Half life is a % elimination over time, so mathematically a higher dose lasts longer in terms of elimination.
Testosterone Decanoate (100mg) – Half-life = ~15 days.
So around day 40~ you'll still have 12% in your system.
>prescribed and used all over the world
literally no one is prescribing sustanon because it's simply a stupid mix of esters
Aspen make sus, pharma lol what are you talking about moron?
All i can tell you is that you are literally brain dead fricking moronic. You know absolutely nothing about steroids and here you are, injecting yourself with them without any thought.
>How long will a 500mg dose of sustanon last me?
As long as the longest ester in that moronic ass mix. But it doesn't even matter because 75% of testosterone esters from one injection will be out of your system in one week.
>will a bigger dose last longer?
No.
>how can I make this shit last 2 months?
You can't.
>As long as the longest ester in that moronic ass mix
the longest ester is decanoatate which has a 2 week halflife iirc??
more gear should last longer since it takes longer to eliminate it
>But it doesn't even matter because 75% of testosterone esters from one injection will be out of your system in one week.
40% of Sust 250 is decanoate which lasts longer than the other derivatives.
Went to the gym from 4-8. Couldn’t stop looking at my left bicep because I felt like it needed extra attention. Should I go to therapy?
Is it true that you need to double your protein intake if you get on AAS ? I saw somewhere it needs to be 1.5g/lb of protein minimum.
Why the frick is testosterone £40 for 10ml now? I just want some fricking test c for a normal price. It's so fricking aids trying to find a fkn website
stop being poor?
T. Pays 90$ for 3g of test.
I could pay double for everything for no reason, why the frick would anyone do that you moron?
then find a better plug or up ur ai u cry baby lol
Southern Ghost still £26 for 300mg/ml in MCT oil. So thin I stick half a ml through a 31g slin pin
I can't even find any site on eroids with SG
£15 for 10ml of test c
go on the forum called uk muscle
top thread on steroid and test sub forum with 600+ replies
>be me
>Working at nice place for a few weeks
>Lot of chick coworkers 3-4 pretty cute
>Am alpha male there because most jacked and high status
>Taller dude starts, I'm only 5'9
>Immediately the chick who was acting super into me, is all over him
>Dude is lanklet never lifted a day in his life
Frick this shit. Nothing I can do but get as wide as possible. Getting on tren brahs
>call himself alpha
>gets insecrue about a laklet
fricking kys roid troony
Alpha contextually as in high status male there because respected by everyone and high position
Not saying my personality is necessarily alpha, alpha is contextual
>5’9”
You need estrogen
>running 200 test and 200 tren
>3 weeks in, everything fine
>zero changes in diet since the beginning
>all of a sudden gain 9 lbs of pure water within a week
>look absolutely disgusting and get high bp
I guess it's time to drop tren.
Oh my god she is so attractive
I've been on tren ace for 16 weeks @ 525mg/week. Bow mortals.
Wow that’s great you must be huge.
Hahaha
The only thing that's huge is my ego.
For real though, undoubtedly the best gains I've made in a blast, but the fatigue is starting to hit me now. I'll just finish this last vial and be done. All in all, my experience with tren did not live up to what it's known for. Sides are completely overblown. Gains were great once again, but not the mutant gains people hype up tren for.
lucky. i cant handle tren >150mg/wk without sides like b***hyness and hella jealousy. but i can run a gram of test side free so im grateful.
200mg is my limit, then its anxiety central.
Anything against shin splits (after rooning)?
To my surprise, anabolics don't to shit for periosteum.
Corticosteroids are harmful for joints and are advised against.
Try different shoes. Shin splints should go away eventually.
I got Asics.
Just surpsired there is nothing interesting for shin splits specially.
does the shoe have a rocker bottom and rigid shank?
compression socks when you're done running
elevate legs when you're done running
I just wanted to train more often because I got acces to chemistry and the readiness to use it right now.
Ostarine
Also thought about that but Google did not find anything with "periosteum ostarine".
Ostarine is good for joint and tendon health so it's worth a shot
Hm
At least Ostarine did relief the pain, in the periosteum.
How does it compare to Deca? Deca I do not have, it works too slow.
Ate one. Hm.
Maybe it is really better then Anavar/Deca?
Dorians olympia cycle according to him
300mg test prop
500mg primo
152mg parabolan
50mg anavar
Lmao he said he heard nasser was doing gorilla doses and tried going above 1000mg of test and didnt like it or notice any benefit lmao. His accent has changed and is weird as frick aswell, says he hates bodybuilding as modern guys suck but sells garbage supplements lol
REEEE NONONONONONONONO HE IS LYING HE CAN'T BE TAKING LESS THAN ME AND BE BIGGER THAN ME