>friend is almost obese.
>stays over at my house for 3 weeks to lose weight.
>despite eating under 2000 calories a day (1000 calory deficit), hasn't lost a single kilo.
Is this biologically possible or has he been sneaking meals?
>friend is almost obese. >stays over at my house for 3 weeks to lose weight.
What's he eating?
Canned coffee, 200 calories.
1 portion of whatever I eat at lunch, 800 calories or so (I count the calories from ingredients).
A protein bar, 200 calories.
Dinner with me, unlikely over 800 cal.
Roughly 2200 cals.
But he's at a weight where he should eat 3000 cals a day and still lose weight.
Hes sneaking meals
Cut even more to see if it has effect. Double count calories. In some rare cases peoples intestines are fricked and they require very little food to eat at maintenance.
>In some rare cases peoples intestines are fricked and they require very little food to eat at maintenance.
>fricked
This would be a good thing survival wise. They are more efficient. It's the other way around. Many modern bodies reject food because theres a surplus and are purposely inefficient
It is biologically possible that you two are moronic.
if your friend isn't really cheating and is actually moving his ass it can be a plateau that will woosh or just constipation+water retention.
CICO WORKS
>2000 is a 1000 calorie deficit
depends how sedentary he is
if he's under 5'10 and very sedentary than his base calorie rate could be 1800-2200 even while in the high 20s BMI (almost obese) and a long long way from 3000
i assume he doesn't even work and just sits around the house all day how else could staying at yours help
i rode 45km today at 5'9 145lbs and my watch is telling me (usually pretty accurate) that i am on track to have burned 3100 calories by days end assuming no more exercise
did he do anything like that?
He is very sedentary.
Either sleeps, watches anime, or plays WoW.
He does a daily 1km walk to get his protein bar and around 20 pushups.
Starving himself with no exercise worked for him once before, so he refuses to exercise in the present.
But he realises not being sedentary is gonna make him feel good and better his hecking raidlogs?
>He does a daily 1km walk to get his protein bar
He does this alone? If yes, you are a dumb homosexual.
I already suspect it's there when he sneaks junk food, he goes to buy that protein bar when I'm at work or at the gym.
>He goes to buy that protein bar when I'm at work
And you believe he's only buying just one protein bar why??
>He does a daily 1km walk
Lmao if he is borderline obese he probably can't walk more than 500m without resting. He's taking an uber.
I was borderline obese (27.5BMI) and perfectly fine to walk many kilometers. You'd be shocked how thin obesity actually starts at.
I did a 7mile lake trip with a friend and was okay, but thats what made me lose weight cause I was so exhausted compared to his spry attitude
he needs like 1500 a day max then to actually lose weight
Kek. You moronic if you think he only gets a protein bar from the store.
Fat frick is sneaking chocolate bars and mountain dew on his walk back home.
This, don't know how accurate it is but according to my smartwatch my BMR is 1650. Losing weight basically means eating about that if you're not moving. It sucks at first but after a few days you get used to it.
What's his age, height, weight?
26, 179cm, 115kg.
>almost obese
He's shorter than me at the same weight and I'm morbidly obese (with more muscle)
Dang...
it's worse than I thought
That's well beyond obese matey he'd need to lose 20kg to be less then obese
I asked his age, height and weight so that I could better understand his situation. Yeah, if he's totally sedentary, then it's very possible he could eat 2200-ish calories a day and stay the same weight over 3 weeks.
I'm getting tired and I don't feel like writing a whole nutrition and exercise plan for you, your friend, and everyone. I'm not even qualified to do this. Just read the sticky in this board, and perhaps read the Mayo Clinic Diet: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/mayo-clinic-diet/art-20045460
Find other reputable sources (not some bullshit magazine articles, real useful info and plans).
If your friend is really serious about gaining muscle and losing fat, then he would do it on his own. He can do both at the same time. 26 is a great age to start turning his health around. I would be scared if he starts later than about 35 or so. The permanent damage of being obese really starts hammering us in our 40s. Now is a great time for him to start figuring out how to handle his health. Good luck.
It’s biologically possible if he stays on his ass all day, and i’m pretty sure that’s what he does, just compare how many steps you and him take in a day, there lies your answer
Is he sitting all day? Unless he starts riding a bicycle and getting off his ass nothing is going to change.
I want him to exercise.
But he says that working out makes him hungry, and also that the muscle gain makes tracking weight more complicated.
So he prefers to not move at all and eat at a calory deficit.
If he's wrong, how do I prove it?
>gaining muscle will frick up the weight loss
What? Do you guys think muscle is birthed from thin air?
Jesus christ man, you two are actually moronic like that one anon said
Huh turns out i am obese.
I feel this doesn't scale super well when your tall.
Bro you're either jacked or fat. 185cm doesn't explain a weight of +100kg
Somewhere between, carrying a decent amount of muscle but still a bit of a gut.
Don't think i have been 70kg since i was 15 lmao.
200lbs sounds super light for 6'2
You're 9cm taller than me and 32kg heavier. You fat.
Im 6’2 200 and consider myself fat. My BMI is around 26. Youre fat bro
This. I'm 6'1" and 220lbs with roughly similar BMI and I'm absolutely fat. Lost about 15lbs just by doing a calorie deficit so your buddy is definitely sneaking meals. Make sure he isn't eating before bed as well.
>tfw almost morbidly obese
>can walk a mile or two with no issues
>lift weights regularly
I know I’m unhealthy but I don’t look nearly as fat as other people. Are other people just really worse off than me?
I’m 5’11 280 lbs 28 y.o.
You carry the fat better, that's all. Probably helps that you lift so you don't always look as soft and flabby.
Makes sense
If only I could outlift a bad diet ;_;
Is 2,390 enough of a deficit? I used MFP to calculate it
Yeah no issues FOR NOW, let’s see how you’re doing at 40+
Being fat is one of the vices you cannot hide from other people. He is lying about what he eats, guaranteed he is sneaking off for burgers.
If he just sits on his ass all day, then it's perfectly possible for his body to just slow down metabolically (to a point) in order for the energy outtake to approximate the energy intake. He needs an exercise routine that matches his current level of athleticism.
Bodyweight is very accessible but the problem with it is that in order to overload, you need a surprisingly high amount of coordination. Most people will frick up even regular pushups. Most gymgoers will, actually. I think he'd have a lot more fun just going to the gym with you moving some weight on the machines
>"friend" is obese
>stays at your house and eats your food for free
>spares all the money he would've spent on healthy stuff
>uses the money to buy even more junk food than before
He isn't moving enough and/or cheating on his diet.
Next question.
He's cheating on his diet. Ultimately there's nothing you can do with these people short of locking them in cages, if they want to be disgusting fat fricks let them be fat fricks.
ayo dis homie sneakin meals
My ex gf cheated with on her ex boyfriend who was 6’2 with me (5’9)
Explain this blackpillers
Fatties probably not in a deficit then is he
She's a prostitute a hole a dime a dozen jezebel
>1000 caloric deficit
how do you know he's burning 3k ?